• Windows Telnet...

    From Bill McGarrity@VERT to All on Wed Oct 29 10:49:00 2014
    Good day all...

    Quick question. Can I use Window's telent.exe as a command in a door to connect to an outside IP and have the I/O appear in the callers client? Reason behind this, the IP i am trying to access requires a newer version of telnet than what is supplied with Synchronet's telgate. At a command prompt using Windows telnet I can access the site with no problems. Connecting to the system with a client the system opens a DOS window, the information is displayed within that window yet nothing to the incoming client. Do I need to configure the Intercept I/O? Right now all I have toggled is Native to Yes and Shell to yes.

    Thanks


    Bill

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Bill McGarrity on Wed Oct 29 16:49:00 2014
    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Bill McGarrity to All on Wed Oct 29 2014 11:04 am

    Good day all...

    Quick question. Can I use Window's telent.exe as a command in a door to connect to an outside IP and have the I/O appear in the callers client?

    Possibly. I'm not sure I would trust users with access to Microsoft's telnet.exe. For one thing, it would allow them to 'close' the
    connection you're bridging them with and open another connection, anywhere, potentially using your system as an unsuspecting attack
    source.

    Reason behind this, the IP i am trying to access requires a newer version oftelnet than what is supplied with Synchronet's telgate.

    What led you to that conclusion? I'm not aware of any "newer version of telnet"






















































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































  • From IB JOE@VERT to Bill McGarrity on Wed Oct 29 18:49:00 2014
    Quick question. Can I use Window's telent.exe as a command in a door to connect to an outside IP and have the I/O appear in the callers client? Reason behind this, the IP i am trying to access requires a newer
    version of telnet than what is supplied with Synchronet's telgate. At a command prompt using Windows telnet I can access the site with no problems. Connecting to the system with a client the system opens a DOS window, the information is displayed within that window yet nothing to
    the incoming client. Do I need to configure the Intercept I/O? Right now all I have toggled is Native to Yes and Shell to yes.



    I don't know if this will work for you... TelnetDoor is out there... google it... if you cannot find it IO'll send it over to you if you cannot find it.

    Works like a door...

    TTYL

    IB Joe
    AKA Joe Schweier
    Joe's Computer & BBS
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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT to Digital Man on Thu Oct 30 17:50:00 2014
    On 10-29-1414:13, Digital Man wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Hiya DM....

    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Bill McGarrity to All on Wed Oct 29 2014 11:04 am

    Good day all...

    Quick question. Can I use Window's telent.exe as a command in a door to connect to an outside IP and have the I/O appear in the callers client?

    Possibly. I'm not sure I would trust users with access to Microsoft's telnet.exe. For one thing, it would allow them to 'close' the
    connection you're bridging them with and open another connection, anywhere, potentially using your system as an unsuspecting attack
    source.

    Understood... but if I use the Clean-up command to "exit" the window?


    Reason behind this, the IP i am trying to access requires a newer version
    of telnet than what is supplied with Synchronet's telgate.

    What led you to that conclusion? I'm not aware of any "newer version of telnet" since RFC854, from 1983. There are additional
    options, suboptions, etc. introduced in subsequent RFCs, but these
    aren't "newer versions of telnet"

    This is the message I get when logging in with telgate

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ * Welcome to THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND telnet service! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ * *
    * National Weather Service information provided by Alden Electronics, Inc. * * and updated each minute as reports come in over our data feed. * * *
    * **Note: If you cannot get past this opening screen, you must use a * * different version of the "telnet" program--some of the ones for IBM * * compatible PC's have a bug that prevents proper connection. * * *
    * comments: jmasters@wunderground.com * ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    This screen is as far as I can get. I have to CTRL-] to disconnect. The url
    s:

    rainmaker.wunderground.com

    Maybe you can try it on your end.


    At a command
    prompt using Windows telnet I can access the site with no problems.

    That's one data point. If you want toroot-cause and resolve the issue
    with telgate, I could help with that.

    That would be great!! I'd much rather use telgate.


    Connecting to the system with a client the system opens a DOS window, the information is displayed within that window yet nothing to the incoming client. Do I need to configure the Intercept I/O?

    You would need enable I/O interception, yes. But like I said, I think that's a bad idea (for security reasons).


    Understood.

    Thank you sir!!


    Bill

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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT to IB JOE on Thu Oct 30 17:50:00 2014
    On 10-29-14 17:08, IB JOE wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Quick question. Can I use Window's telent.exe as a command in a door to connect to an outside IP and have the I/O appear in the callers client? Reason behind this, the IP i am trying to access requires a newer
    version of telnet than what is supplied with Synchronet's telgate. At a command prompt using Windows telnet I can access the site with no problems. Connecting to the system with a client the system opens a DOS window, the information is displayed within that window yet nothing to
    the incoming client. Do I need to configure the Intercept I/O? Right now all I have toggled is Native to Yes and Shell to yes.



    I don't know if this will work for you... TelnetDoor is out there... google it... if you cannot find it IO'll send it over to you if you
    cannot find it.

    Works like a door...

    I picked that up yesterday but stillhaving the issue of getting stuck at the main screen.


    Bill

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  • From Joe Schweier@VERT to Bill McGarrity on Thu Oct 30 18:03:00 2014
    I picked that up yesterday but still having the issue of getting stuck
    at the main screen.


    Good luck with it though

    TTYL

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Bill McGarrity on Fri Oct 31 01:03:00 2014
    Re: Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Bill McGarrity to Digital Man on Thu Oct 30 2014 04:50
    pm

    On 10-29-1414:13, Digital Man wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Hiya DM....

    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Bill McGarrity to All on Wed Oct 29 2014 11:04 am

    Good day all...

    Quick question. Can I use Window's telent.exe as a command in a door to connect to an outside IP and have the I/O appear in the callers client?

    Possibly. I'm not sure I would trust users with access to Microsoft's telnet.exe. For one thing, it would allow them to 'close' the connection you're bridging them with and open another connection, anywhere, potentially using your system as an unsuspecting attack source.

    Understood... but if I use the Clean-up command to "exit" the window?

    That wouldn't help. :-)

    Reason behind this, the IP i am trying to access requires a newer
    version of telnet than what is supplied with Synchronet's telgate.

    What led you to that conclusion? I'm not aware of any "newer version
    of telnet" since RFC854, from 1983. There are additional
    options, suboptions, etc. introduced in subsequent RFCs, but these aren't "newer versions of telnet"

    This is the message I get when logging in with telgate
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --- * Welcome to THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND telnet service! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    -- *
    * * National Weather Service information providedby Alden Electronics, Inc. * * and updated each minute as reports come in over our data feed.
    * *
    * * **Note: If you cannot get past this opening screen, you must use a
    * * different version of the "telnet" program--some of the ones forIBM
    * * compatible PC's have a bug that prevents proper connection.
    * *
    * * comments: jmasters@wunderground.com
    * ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --

    This screen is as far asI can get. I have to CTRL-] to disconnect. The
    url s:

    rainmaker.wunderground.com

    Maybe you can try it on your end.

    Yeah, I'll give it a look-see and let you know.

    digital man

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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT to Digital Man on Fri Oct 31 10:50:00 2014
    On 10-29-14 14:13, Digital Man wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Hiya DM....

    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Bill McGarrity to All on Wed Oct 29 2014 11:04 am

    Good day all...

    Quick question. Can I use Window's telent.exe as a command in a door to connect to an outside IP and have the I/O appear in the callers client?

    Possibly. I'm not sure I would trust users with access to Microsoft's
    telnet.exe. For one thing, it would allow them to 'close' the connection you're bridging them with and open another connection, anywhere, potentially using your system as an unsuspecting attack source.

    Understood... but if I use the Clean-up command to "exit" the window?

    That wouldn't help. :-)

    OK.. so that's moot on using Win's telnet... it's history.. :)

    Reason behind this, the IP i am trying to access requires a newer
    version of telnet than what is supplied with Synchronet's telgate.

    What led you to that conclusion? I'm not aware of any "newer version
    of telnet" since RFC854, from 1983. There are additional
    options, suboptions, etc. introduced in subsequent RFCs, but these aren't "newer versions of telnet"

    This is the message I get when logging in with telgate
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --- * Welcome to THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND telnet service! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    -- *
    * * National Weather Service information provided by Alden Electronics, Inc. * * and updated each minute as reports come in over our data feed.
    * *
    * * **Note: If you cannot get past this opening screen, you must use a
    * * different version of the "telnet" program--some of the ones for IBM
    * * compatible PC's have a bug that prevents proper connection.
    * *
    * * comments: jmasters@wunderground.com
    * ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --

    This screen is as far as I can get. I have to CTRL-] to disconnect. The
    url s:

    rainmaker.wunderground.com

    Maybe you can try it on your end.

    Yeah, I'll give it a look-see and let you know.

    Thank you sir!!


    Bill

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Bill McGarrity on Sat Nov 1 20:37:00 2014
    Re: Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Bill McGarrity to Digital Man on Fri Oct 31 2014 11:11
    am

    Maybe you can try it on your end.

    Yeah, I'll give it a look-see and let you know.

    Thank you sir!!

    I tried it myself by using the sysop command ";EXEC ?telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com" and it worked fine. You have to hit enter/return when it prompt you to and then you can enter a city code and use the menu. Perhaps you're running an older version of Synchronet?

    digital man

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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT to Digital Man on Sun Nov 2 00:37:00 2014
    On 11-01-14 18:23, Digital Man wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-


    Maybe you can try it on your end.

    Yeah, I'll give it a look-see and let you know.

    Thank you sir!!

    I tried it myself by using the sysop command ";EXEC ?telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com" and it worked fine. You have to hit enter/return when it prompt you to and then you can enter a city code
    and use the menu. Perhaps you're running an older version of
    Synchronet?

    Strange, if I login via the control panel it works but if I log in remotely, still gets hung up where I said it did. I just want to make sure my callers have access to it and it works as designed.

    If someone wants to telnet in and see if works for them and let me know I would appreciate it. Go to External programs, choose 10 then 1.

    Thanks DM... appreciate you looking into it.


    Bill

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  • From Access Denied@VERT to Digital Man & Bill McGarr on Sun Nov 2 02:37:00 2014
    Hello Digital,

    On 01 Nov 14 18:23, Digital Man wrote to Bill McGarrity:

    I tried it myself by using the sysop command ";EXEC ?telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com" and it worked fine. You have to hit enter/return when it prompt you to and then you can enter a city code
    and use the menu. Perhaps you're running an older version of
    Synchronet?

    I can also confirm it works here. I got my forecast for the next week anyways, if that's what you're looking for.

    Just an FYI, there's no "hit a letter and it happens" kinda thing. You have to hit enter for every prompt. Like when you type in your 3 letter city code, you have to hit enter. When you hit X to exit, you have to hit enter also. I don't even think my 3 letters I typed in displayed on my end, but when I typed them and hit enter it showed my forecast.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT to Access Denied on Sun Nov 2 08:37:00 2014
    On 11-01-14 21:41, Access Denied wrote to Digital Man & Bill McGarrity <=-

    Hiya Nick...

    Hello Digital,

    On 01 Nov 14 18:23, Digital Man wrote to Bill McGarrity:

    I tried it myself by using the sysop command ";EXEC ?telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com" and it worked fine. You have to hit enter/return when it prompt you to and then you can enter acity code
    and use the menu. Perhaps you're running an older version of
    Synchronet?

    I can also confirm it works here. I got my forecast for the next week anyways, if that's what you're looking for.

    Question is, were you successful by using the Control Panel's login or did you use a remote program? It works for me also when I login locally.

    Just an FYI, there's no "hit a letter and it happens" kinda thing. You have to hit enter for every prompt. Like when you type in your 3 letter city code, you have to hit enter. When you hit X to exit, you have to
    hit enter also. I don't even think my 3 letters I typed in displayed on
    my end, but when I typed them and hit enter it showed my forecast.

    Once you do get passed the opening screen, most is self explainatory... :)


    Thanks!!


    Bill

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  • From Dennis Ayala@VERT to Bill McGarrity on Sun Nov 2 10:37:00 2014
    Re: Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Bill McGarrity to Digital Man on Sun Nov 02 2014 01:09
    am

    If someone wants to telnet in and see if works for them and let me know I would appreciate it. Go to External programs, choose 10 then 1.


    I tried to connect to your BBS but the connection was refused.

    Dennis
    ---
    Synchronet The Wall BBS - telnet://thewallbbs.com
  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT to Dennis Ayala on Sun Nov 2 14:37:00 2014
    On 11-02-14 12:00, Dennis Ayala wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-


    If someone wants to telnet in and see if works for them and let me know I would appreciate it. Go to External programs, choose 10 then 1.


    I tried to connect to your BBS but the connection was refused.

    I did a dns on your bbs to see if I had your IP blocked and I don't... if you were using thatIP to try and connect. I have no record of it here. Were you using a different address?

    Thanks




    Bill

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Digital Man on Mon Nov 3 10:37:00 2014
    On Sat, 01 Nov 2014, Digital Man wrote to Bill McGarrity:

    Maybe you can try it on your end.

    Yeah, I'll give it a look-see and let youknow.

    Thank you sir!!

    I tried it myself by using the sysop command ";EXEC ?telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com" and it worked fine. You have to hit enter/return when it prompt you to and then you can enter a city
    code and use the menu.

    i just tried it on max's system exactly like you show above... no amount of mashing on any of the enter keys worked to get past that "press enter to continue" prompt...

    Perhaps you're running an older version of Synchronet?

    possibly... max hasn't updated that synchronet install in several months... we're not even sure if the past updates from CVS have gone properly because of some sort of framebuffer error when running the jsexec tool to update the javascript files :/ there is no framebuffer on the nix system that max is using






















































































































































































































  • From KenDB3@VERT to Bill McGarrity on Mon Nov 3 11:37:00 2014
    Bill, I had the same problem you were seeing, but then it went away. The day you posted about it, I set up a Telgate and everytime I got the first screen that asked you to hit enter to continue, it would fall apart right there. Nothing would happen at all.

    Now, since then I have tried it on your BBS and it works (except I can't see what I have typed into the prompt, but the text is certainly there because it works when I hit enter). Also, my own Telgate on my BBS is working just the same as it is on yours. So, whatever was going on stopped, and it was probably on Weather Underground's end.

    For what its worth, if I telnet directly through Windows Telnet, I can see whatever I type for responses, but if I Telnet through SyncTerm directly, I cannot see myresponses that I type. Not a big deal to me, but it was a
    curious behavior.

    ~KenDB3
    ---
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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT to mark lewis on Mon Nov 3 14:37:00 2014
    On 11-03-1409:58, mark lewis wrote to Digital Man <=-


    On Sat, 01 Nov 2014, Digital Man wrote to Bill McGarrity:

    Maybe you can try it on your end.

    Yeah, I'll give it a look-see and let you know.

    Thank you sir!!

    I tried it myself by using the sysop command ";EXEC ?telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com" and it worked fine. You have to hit enter/return when it prompt you to and then you can enter a city
    code and use the menu.

    i just tried it on max's system exactlylike you show above... no
    amount of mashing on any of the enter keys worked to get past that
    "press enter to continue" prompt...

    Perhaps you're running an older version of Synchronet?

    possibly... max hasn't updated that synchronet install in several months... we're not even sure if the past updates from CVS have gone properly because of some sort offramebuffer error when running the
    jsexec tool to update the javascript files :/ there is no framebuffer
    on the nix system that max is using and there's no GUI either...

    Mark... try logging on over here... Ken said it worked, just wasn't getting input echo back. I just updated all my exec files to yesterday's release.


    Bill

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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT to KenDB3 on Mon Nov 3 14:37:00 2014
    On 11-03-14 09:37, KenDB3 wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Bill, I had the same problem you were seeing, but then it went away.
    The day you posted about it, I set up a Telgate and every time I got
    the first screen that asked you to hit enter to continue, it would fall apart right there. Nothing would happen at all.


    Glad I wasn't going nuts then... lol!!

    Now, since then I have tried it on your BBS and it works (except I
    can't see what I have typed into the prompt, but thetext is certainly there because it works when I hit enter). Also, my own Telgate on my
    BBS is working just the same as it is on yours. So, whatever was going
    on stopped, and it was probably on Weather Underground's end.

    My remote client isstill giving me issues but that's ok... I just wanted to make sure it worked for the callers.


    For what its worth, if I telnet directly through Windows Telnet, I can
    see whatever I type for responses, but if I Telnet through SyncTerm directly, I cannot see my responses that I type. Not a big deal to me,
    but it was a curious behavior.

    Same here. Being it's js and native to Synch, I'm not too sure it needs to have capture I/O enabled. I guess I could play with it... but I need to get work done that pays the bills... :)

    Thanks


    Bill

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  • From Dennis Ayala@VERT to Bill McGarrity on Mon Nov 3 21:37:00 2014
    Re: Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Bill McGarrity to Dennis Ayala on Sun Nov 02 2014 03:02











































































































































































































































































































































































































  • From mark lewis@VERT to Bill McGarrity on Mon Nov 3 22:37:00 2014
    On Mon, 03 Nov 2014, Bill McGarrity wrote to mark lewis:

    Perhaps you're running an older version of Synchronet?

    possibly... max hasn't updated that synchronet install in several months... we're not even sure if the past updates from CVS have
    gone properlybecause of some sort of framebuffer error when
    running the jsexec tool to update the javascript files :/ there is
    no framebuffer on the nix system that max is using and there's no
    GUI either...

    Mark... try logging on over here... Ken said it worked, just
    wasn't getting input echo back. I just updated all my exec files
    to yesterday's release.

    i'll try to remember that tomorrow... i'm about wiped out right now...

    do you have any ideas on the framebuffer thing i mention above and whether or not it might have prevented the jsexec process from updating the javascript files properly??

    )\/(ark


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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT to mark lewis on Mon Nov 3 23:49:00 2014
    On 11-03-14 22:02, mark lewis wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    On Mon, 03 Nov 2014, Bill McGarrity wrote to mark lewis:
    Perhaps you're running an older version of Synchronet?

    possibly... max hasn't updated that synchronet install in several months... we're not even sure if the past updates from CVS have
    gone properly because of some sort of framebuffer error when
    running the jsexec tool to update the javascript files :/ there is
    no framebuffer on the nix system that max is using and there's no
    GUI either...

    Mark... try logging on over here... Ken said it worked, just
    wasn't getting input echo back. I just updated all my exec files
    to yesterday's release.

    i'll try to remember that tomorrow... i'm about wiped out right now...

    do you have any ideas on the framebuffer thing i mention above and
    whether or not it might have prevented the jsexec process from updating the javascript files properly??

    Not being familiar with linux I wouldn't have a clue. Last I heard with the newer versions of Synch, 3.15 and above you no longer need to do the jsexec update. I haven't done it on my winbox...


    Bill

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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT to Dennis Ayala on Tue Nov 4 00:38:00 2014
    On 11-03-14 23:11, Dennis Ayala wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Re: Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Bill McGarrity to Dennis Ayala on Sun Nov 02 2014 03:02 pm

    I did a dns on your bbs to see if I had your IP blocked and I don't... if you were using that IP to try and connect. I have no record of it here.
    Were you using a different address?

    Nope. Trying to connect from home. My BBS is hosted somewhere else.

    Send me netmail with your IP address so I can see if it's in the junk pile...
    )


    Bill

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to mark lewis on Tue Nov 4 18:49:00 2014
    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Mon Nov 03 2014 09:58 am


    On Sat, 01 Nov 2014, Digital Man wrote to Bill McGarrity:

    Maybe you can try it on your end.

    Yeah, I'll give it a look-see and let you know.

    Thank you sir!!

    I tried it myself by using the sysop command ";EXEC ?telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com" and it worked fine. You have to hit enter/return when it prompt you to and then you can enter a city
    code and use the menu.

    i just tried it on max's system exactly like you show above... no amount of mashing on any of the enter keys worked to get past that "press enter to continue" prompt...

    Perhaps you're running an older version of Synchronet?

    possibly... max hasn't updated that synchronet install in several months...

    What version are you/he running then?

    we're not even sure if the past updates from CVS have gone properly because of some sort of framebuffer error when running the jsexec tool to update
    the javascript files :/ there is no framebuffer on the nix system thatmax
    is using and there's no GUI either...

    If you're referring to update.js, that is only necessary when upgrading from an


































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































  • From Digital Man@VERT to KenDB3 on Tue Nov 4 18:49:00 2014
    Re: Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: KenDB3 to Bill McGarrity on Mon Nov 03 2014 09:37 am

    Bill, I had the same problem you were seeing, but then it went away. The
    day you posted about it, I set up a Telgate and every time I got the first screen that asked you to hit enter to continue, it would fall apart right there. Nothing would happen at all.

    Now, sincethen I have tried it on your BBS and it works (except I can't
    see what I have typed into the prompt, but the text is certainly there because it works when I hit enter). Also, my own Telgate on my BBS is working just the same as it is on yours. So, whatever was going on stopped, and it was probably on Weather Underground's end.

    For what its worth, if I telnet directly through Windows Telnet, I can see whatever I type for responses, but if I Telnet through SyncTerm directly, I cannot see my responses that I type. Not a big deal to me, but it was a curious behavior.

    You can enable local echo with the telgate TG_ECHO option.

    digital man

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Digital Man on Tue Nov 4 23:37:00 2014
    On Tue, 04 Nov 2014, Digital Man wrote to mark lewis:

    i just tried it on max's system exactly like you show above... no
    amount of mashing on any of the enter keys worked to get past that
    "press enter to continue" prompt...

    Perhaps you're running an older version of Synchronet?

    possibly... max hasn't updated that synchronet install in several
    months...

    What version are you/he running then?

    3.16 i think... whatever it is that's in CVS since 2012 Dec 08... i think max has done 4 or 5 CVS updatessince then... i know that at least one update was done incorrectly and it took a day to recover from but since then max wrote a script to do it properly... they just don't update the system but once every few months or so... the last update was severalmonths ago so it is probably about time for them to update again ;)

    we're not even sure if the past updates from CVS have gone properly
    because of some sort of framebuffer error when running the jsexec
    tool to update the javascript files :/ there is no framebuffer on
    the nix system that max is using and there's no GUI either...

    If you're referring to update.js, that is only necessary when
    upgrading from an older (pre v3.15) release to v3.15 with the introduction of the exec/load directory. Once run, it never needs
    to be run again (currently).

    OH! yes, that's what it is, i think... i'll pass that info along... max'll probably read this before i get a chance to tell her, though... we've understood that it should be runafter each CVS update... i guess we can change the update script to not call it now that we know it isn't needed ;)

    The update.js script does not "update from CVS" or actually perform
    any kind of update, it's more like a post-update script to be
    run when upgrading from v3.14 or earlier to v3.15 and later.

    nonono.... yeah yeah... we thought it had to be run after updating from CVS and











































































































































































































































































































































































  • From KenDB3@VERT to Digital Man on Wed Nov 5 05:37:00 2014
    Now, since then I have tried it on your BBS and it works (except I can't see what I have typed into the prompt, but the text is certainly there because it works when I hit enter). Also, my own Telgate on my BBS is working just the same as itis on yours. So, whatever was going on stopped, and it was probably on Weather Underground's end.


    You can enable local echo with the telgate TG_ECHO option.

    digital man


    Thanks digital man! Is that done right on the command line that calls the telgate, or is that in a config file somewhere?

    ~KenDB3
    ---
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  • From KenDB3@VERT to Digital Man on Wed Nov 5 10:37:00 2014

    Youcan enable local echo with the telgate TG_ECHO option.

    digital man


    Thanks digital man! Is that done right on the command line that calls the telgate, or is that in a config file somewhere?

    ~KenDB3

    I Found what I was looking for, but am still a bit confused. http://www.synchro.net/docs/external_programs.html#InternalGateways
    So, from what the docs are telling me, it should be passed on the command
    line, but I'm unsure of formatting. Would it look like this?

    *telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com TG_ECHO

    Which I actually gave this formatting a go, and sofar I haven't had luck. I even tried it with the brackets (which I was pretty sure wasn't the answer). I know echo works because I can use Ctrl-] to turn on Echo once I am already connected.

    Thanks for any help, dm! Its not a big priority for me, I justlike learning
    how these things work. It is honestly just fun playing around with the system.

    ~KenDB3
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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT to Digital Man on Wed Nov 5 12:37:00 2014
    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Digital Man to mark lewis on Tue Nov 04 2014 04:44 pm

    The update.js script does not "update from CVS" or actually perform any kind of update, it's more like a post-update scriptto be run when upgrading from v3.14 or earlier to v3.15 and later.

    ...although that would be cool.

    apt-get update synchronet :)
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  • From mark lewis@VERT to KenDB3 on Wed Nov 5 14:38:00 2014
    On Wed, 05 Nov 2014, KenDB3 wrote to Digital Man:

    Now, since then Ihave tried it on your BBS and it works (except
    I can't see what I have typed into the prompt, but the text is
    certainly there because it works when I hit enter). Also, my own
    Telgate on my BBS is working just the same as it is on yours. So, whatever was going on stopped, and it was probably on Weather Underground's end.

    You can enable local echo with the telgate TG_ECHO option.

    Thanks digital man! Is that done right on the command line that
    calls the telgate, or is that in a config file somewhere?

    max and i were playing with this earlier today after she ran her CVS update scriptand loaded the latest synchronet code... we ended up copying the telgate.js script to weathergate.js and editing it to includeTG_LINEMODE, TG_ECHO, and TG_CRLF on the options like after the TG_PASSTHRU option... the pause line was commented out so that the script just displayed the telgate CTRL-] note and then displayed that it was connecting to that wunderground host...

    itseems that the key factors were the TG_LINEMODE and TG_CRLF options... those were discovered as being needed when we tried a straight telnet directly to that host from linux... nothing worked until we toggled "mode line" and then we
















































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































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  • From mark lewis@VERT to KenDB3 on Wed Nov 5 14:38:00 2014
    On Wed, 05 Nov 2014, KenDB3 wrote to Digital Man:

    I Found what I was looking for, but am still a bit confused. http://www.synchro.net/docs/external_programs.html#InternalGateways
    So, fromwhat the docs are telling me, it should be passed on the
    command line, but I'm unsure of formatting. Would it look like this?

    *telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com TG_ECHO

    that's what we tried, too... but the telgate.js script ignores everything after



























































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT to mark lewis on Wed Nov 5 16:38:00 2014
    On 11-05-1414:47, mark lewis wrote to KenDB3 <=-

    Hiya mark...

    On Wed, 05 Nov 2014, KenDB3 wrote to Digital Man:

    I Found what I was looking for, but am still a bit confused. http://www.synchro.net/docs/external_programs.html#InternalGateways
    So, from what the docs are telling me, it should be passed on the
    command line, but I'm unsure of formatting. Would it look likethis?

    *telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com TG_ECHO

    that's what we tried, too... but the telgate.js script ignores
    everything after the remote host... that's why we copied the telgate.js file and edited the new one to manually add thoseoptions...

    bbs.telnet_gate(argv[0],TG_PASSTHRU|TG_LINEMODE|TG_ECHO|TG_CRLF);

    that is the only real set of changeswe made other than commenting out
    the pause line as noted in my previous post...

    That worked perfectly.... kudos.

    Thanks


    Bill

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to mark lewis on Wed Nov 5 16:38:00 2014
    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Tue Nov 04 2014 09:32 pm


    On Tue, 04 Nov 2014,Digital Man wrote to mark lewis:

    i just tried it on max's system exactly like you show above... no
    amount of mashing on any of the enter keys worked to get past that
    "press enter to continue" prompt...

    Perhaps you're running an older version of Synchronet?

    possibly... max hasn't updated that synchronet install in several months...

    What version are you/he running then?

    3.16 i think...

    There are many ways to check the exact version, even using finger.

    whatever it is that's in CVS since 2012 Dec 08... i think
    max has done 4 or 5 CVS updates since then... i know that at least one update was done incorrectly and it took a day to recover from but since
    then max wrote a script to do it properly... they just don't update the system but once every few months or so... the last update was several
    months ago so it is probably about time for them to update again ;)

    Several months ago and Dec 2012 and quite far apart. It's quite possible there was a telgate related fix since Dec 2012.

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to KenDB3 on Wed Nov 5 16:50:00 2014
    Re: Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: KenDB3 to Digital Man on Wed Nov 05 2014 12:13 am

    Now, since then I have tried it on your BBS and it works (except I can't see what I have typed into the prompt, but the text is
    certainly there because it works when I hit enter). Also, my own Telgate on my BBS is working just the same as it is on yours. So, whatever was going on stopped, and it was probably on Weather Underground's end.


    You can enable local echo with the telgate TG_ECHO option.

    digital man


    Thanks digital man! Is that done right on the command line that calls the telgate, or is that in a config file somewhere?

    I just committed an update to telgate.js which will allow you to pass it on the











































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































  • From Digital Man@VERT to KenDB3 on Wed Nov 5 16:50:00 2014
    Re: Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: KenDB3 to Digital Man on Wed Nov 05 2014 10:56 am


    You can enable local echo with the telgate TG_ECHO option.

    digital man


    Thanks digital man! Is that done right on the command line that calls
    the telgate, or is that in a config file somewhere?

    ~KenDB3

    I Found what I was looking for, but am still a bit confused. http://www.synchro.net/docs/external_programs.html#InternalGateways
    So, from what the docs are telling me, it should be passed on the command line, but I'm unsure of formatting. Would it look like this?

    *telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com TG_ECHO

    Which I actually gave this formatting a go, and so far I haven't had luck.
    I even tried it with the brackets (which I was pretty sure wasn't the answer). I know echo works because I can use Ctrl-] to turn on Echo once I am already connected.

    Thanks for any help, dm! Its not a big priority for me, I just like
    learning how these things work. It is honestly just fun playing around with the system.

    Until now, we've had diferent *versions* of telgate.js for different types of hosts which required different combinations of TG_*
    flags (e.g. mudgate.js, unixgate.js). However, with the flexibility of command-line arguments, we don't really need those. If you
    want to pass multiple flags to telgate.js (the latest version in CVS), you specify them separate with a pipe-symbol, but no spaces:
    "?telgate[.js] host[:port] [flag][|flag][|flag]..."

    example:

    "?telgate.js rainmaker.wunderground.com TG_PASSTHRU|TG_ECHO"

    digital man

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  • From Knight@VERT to Poindexter Fortran on Wed Nov 5 17:37:00 2014
    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Digital Man on Wed Nov 05 2014
    10:25 am

    apt-get update synchronet :)

    I have been tempted to submit and maintain a package for Ubuntu. Maybe we can team up and share the responsibility. A team of 3 or 4 of us could tackle it so






























































































































































































































































































































  • From mark lewis@VERT to Digital Man on Wed Nov 5 21:37:00 2014
    On Wed, 05 Nov 2014, Digital Man wrote to mark lewis:

    What version are you/he running then?

    3.16 i think...

    There are many ways to check the exact version, even using finger.

    yes, we've found a lot of fun stuff like that hidden away ;)

    whatever it is that's in CVS since 2012 Dec 08... i think max has
    done 4 or 5 CVS updates since then... i know that at least one
    update was done incorrectly and it took a day to recover from but
    since then max wrote a script to do it properly... they just don't
    update the system but once every few months or so... the last update
    was several months ago so it is probably about time for them to
    update again ;)

    Several months ago and Dec 2012 and quite far apart. It's quite
    possible there was a telgate related fix since Dec 2012.

    what i was trying to say was that the initial install was Dec 2012... since then there have been several (6, 8, 15, i dunno) CVS updates done... IIRC, the last one was June or July of 2014... then the one done todayto test further which ended up with a copy of the telgate.js and the needed options added ;)

    )\/(ark

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to mark lewis on Thu Nov 6 22:37:00 2014
    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Wed Nov 05 2014 07:49 pm

    what i was trying to say was that the initial install was Dec 2012... since then there have been several (6, 8, 15, i dunno) CVS updates done... IIRC, the last one was June or July of 2014... then the one done today to test further which ended up with a copy of the telgate.js and the needed options added ;)

    Okay, cool. For what it's worth, the only option I needed to use with the TG_ECHO (for the keyboard echo), but otherwise, it worked perfectly with the default options (TG_PASSTHRU) or no options at all.

    digital man

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  • From KenDB3@VERT to Digital Man on Thu Nov 6 22:37:00 2014
    Re: Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: KenDB3 to Digital Man on Wed Nov 05 2014 10:56 am


    You can enable local echo with the telgate TG_ECHO option.

    digital man


    Thanks digital man! Is that done right on the command line that calls the telgate, or is that in a config file somewhere?

    ~KenDB3

    I Found what I was looking for, but am still a bit confused. http://www.synchro.net/docs/external_programs.html#InternalGateways
    So, from what the docs are telling me, it should be passed on the
    command line, but I'm unsure of formatting. Would it look like this?

    *telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com TG_ECHO

    Which I actually gave this formatting a go, and so far I haven't had luck. I even tried it with the brackets (which I was pretty sure wasn't the answer). I know echo works because I can use Ctrl-] to turn on Echo
    once I am already connected.

    Thanks for any help, dm! Its not a big priority for me, I just like learning how these things work. It is honestly just fun playing around with the system.

    Until now, we've had diferent *versions* of telgate.js for different types of hosts which required different combinations of TG_* flags (e.g. mudgate.js, unixgate.js). However, with the flexibility of command-line arguments, we don't really need those. If you want to pass multiple flags
    to telgate.js (the latest version in CVS), you specify them separate with a pipe-symbol, but no spaces: "?telgate[.js] host[:port] [flag][|flag][|flag]..."

    example:

    "?telgate.js rainmaker.wunderground.com TG_PASSTHRU|TG_ECHO"

    digital man


    Awesome, I will definitely grab the update and give it a go! Thank you!

    ~KenDB3
    ---
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  • From KenDB3@VERT to mark lewis on Thu Nov 6 22:37:00 2014
    On Wed, 05 Nov 2014, KenDB3 wrote to Digital Man:

    I Found what I was looking for, but am still a bit confused. http://www.synchro.net/docs/external_programs.html#InternalGateways So, from what the docs are telling me, it should be passed on the command line, but I'm unsure of formatting. Would it look like this?

    *telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com TG_ECHO

    that's what we tried, too... but the telgate.js script ignores everything after the remote host... that's why we copied the telgate.js file and
    edited the new one to manually add those options...

    bbs.telnet_gate(argv[0],TG_PASSTHRU|TG_LINEMODE|TG_ECHO|TG_CRLF);

    that is the only real set of changes we made other than commenting out the pause line as noted in my previous post...

    HTH

    )\/(ark

    Mark, thanks for all the work and info on this as well. Lookslike the update digital man did might solve some of those problems. Good work figuring out the best combo of options as well.

    ~KenDB3


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  • From KenDB3@VERT to KenDB3 on Thu Nov 6 22:37:00 2014
    On Wed, 05 Nov 2014, KenDB3 wrote to Digital Man:

    I Found what I was looking for, but am still a bit confused.
    http://www.synchro.net/docs/external_programs.html#InternalGateways
    So, from what the docs are telling me, it should be passed on the command line, but I'm unsure of formatting. Would it look like this?

    *telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com TG_ECHO

    that's what we tried, too... but the telgate.js script ignores
    everything after the remote host... that's why we copied the telgate.js file and edited the new one to manually add those options...

    bbs.telnet_gate(argv[0],TG_PASSTHRU|TG_LINEMODE|TG_ECHO|TG_CRLF);

    that is the only real set of changes we made other than commenting out the pause line as noted in my previous post...

    HTH

    )\/(ark

    Mark, thanks for all the work and info on this as well. Looks like the
    update digital man did might solve some of those problems. Good work figuring out the best combo of options as well.

    ~KenDB3

    With the new update to telgate.js I was able to write this new command line: ?telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com TG_LINEMODE|TG_ECHO|TG_CRLF

    Which tops out what looks like 1 character shy of the max characters allowed
    in the command line. Works great! Since TG_PASSTHRU is still baked into the telgate.js script itself, I didn't need to fit that.

    Very cool stuff!

    ~KenDB3
    ---
    Synchronet KD3net-Rhode Island's only BBS
  • From Xir@VERT to Knight on Thu Nov 6 22:37:00 2014
    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Knight to Poindexter Fortran on Wed Nov 05 2014 03:25
    pm

    I have been tempted to submit and maintain a package for Ubuntu. Maybe we can team up and share the responsibility. A team of 3 or 4 of us could tackle it so that it's consistent and any one of us could keep it up to date when new releases come out (that way there's always coverage).

    That would be an exceedingly good way to get other Ubuntu users to at least install Synchronet. I'm running mine on a Ubuntu box, and it was a change of pace to have to go back to compiling a piece of software. I haven'thad to
    do that regularly in more than a decade.

    Xir
    Sysop, Bayou Connection
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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Digital Man on Thu Nov 6 22:37:00 2014
    On Wed, 05 Nov 2014, Digital Man wrote to mark lewis:

    updates done... IIRC, the last one was June or July of 2014... then
    the one done today totest further which ended up with a copy of the telgate.js and the needed options
    added ;)

    Okay, cool. For what it's worth, the only option I needed to use
    with the TG_ECHO (for the keyboard echo), but otherwise, it
    worked perfectly with the default options (TG_PASSTHRU) or no
    options at all.

    that's very interesting... i wonder if it has something to do with the terminal









































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































  • From mark lewis@VERT to KenDB3 on Thu Nov 6 22:37:00 2014
    On Wed, 05 Nov 2014, KenDB3 wrote to mark lewis:

    *telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com TG_ECHO

    that's what we tried, too... but the telgate.js script ignores
    everything after the remotehost... that's why we copied the
    telgate.js file and edited the new one to manually add those
    options...

    bbs.telnet_gate(argv[0],TG_PASSTHRU|TG_LINEMODE|TG_ECHO|TG_CRLF);

    that is the only real set of changes we made other than commenting
    out the pause line as noted in my previous post...

    Mark, thanks for all the work and info on this as well. Lookslike
    the update digital man did might solve some of those problems. Good
    work figuring out the best combo of options aswell.

    not a problem, ken... i'm glad that we figured it out... i'm curious to see the











































































































































































































































































































  • From Digital Man@VERT to KenDB3 on Thu Nov 6 23:37:00 2014
    Re: Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: KenDB3 to KenDB3 on Wed Nov 05 2014 11:13 pm

    On Wed, 05 Nov 2014, KenDB3 wrote to Digital Man:

    I Found what I was looking for, but am still a bit confused.




    http://www.synchro.net/docs/external_programs.html#InternalGateway So, from what the docs are telling me, it should be passed on the command line, but I'm unsure of formatting. Would it look like this?

    *telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com TG_ECHO

    that's what we tried, too... but the telgate.js script ignores everything after the remote host... that's why we copied the telgate.js file and edited the new one to manually add those options...

    bbs.telnet_gate(argv[0],TG_PASSTHRU|TG_LINEMODE|TG_ECHO|TG_CRLF);

    that is the only real set of changes we made other than commenting
    out the pause line as noted in my previous post...

    HTH

    )\/(ark

    Mark, thanks for all the work and info on this as well. Looks like the update digital man did might solve some of those problems. Good work figuring out the best combo of options as well.

    ~KenDB3

    With the new update to telgate.js I was able to write this new command
    line: ?telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com TG_LINEMODE|TG_ECHO|TG_CRLF

    Which tops out what looks like 1 character shy of the max characters
    allowed in the command line. Works great! Since TG_PASSTHRU is still baked into the telgate.js script itself, I didn't need to fit that.

    Well the TG_PASSTHRU flag won't be set if you pass any flags on the command-line. It's okay though, sounds like you don't need it.

    digital man

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  • From KenDB3@VERT to Digital Man on Fri Nov 7 06:37:00 2014
    With the new update to telgate.js I was able to write this new command line: ?telgate rainmaker.wunderground.com TG_LINEMODE|TG_ECHO|TG_CRLF

    Which tops out what looks like 1 character shy of the max characters allowed in the command line. Works great! Since TG_PASSTHRU is still baked into the telgate.js script itself, I didn't need to fit that.

    Well the TG_PASSTHRU flag won't be set if you pass any flags on the command-line. It's okay though, sounds like you don't need it.

    digital man

    Gotcha! lol. Thanks again :-)

    ~KenDB3
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Bill McGarrity on Thu Nov 27 09:59:00 2014
    Re: Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Bill McGarrity to Digital Man on Thu Oct 30 2014 04:50
    pm

    On 10-29-1414:13, Digital Man wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Hiya DM....

    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Bill McGarrity to All on Wed Oct 29 2014 11:04 am

    Good day all...

    Quick question. Can I use Window's telent.exe as a command in a door to connect to an outside IP and have the I/O appear in the callers client?

    Possibly. I'm not sure I would trustusers with access to Microsoft's telnet.exe. For one thing, it would allow them to 'close' the connection you're bridging them with and open another connection, anywhere, potentially using your system as an unsuspecting attack source.

    Understood... but if I use the Clean-up command to "exit" the window?

    That wouldn't help. :-)

    Reason behind this, the IP i am trying to access requires a newer
    version of telnet than what is supplied with Synchronet's telgate.

    What led you to that conclusion? I'm not aware of any "newer version
    of telnet" since RFC854, from 1983. There are additional
    options, suboptions, etc. introduced in subsequent RFCs, but these aren't "newer versions oftelnet"

    This is the message I get when logging in with telgate
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --- * Welcome to THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND telnet service! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    -- *
    * * National Weather Service information providedby Alden Electronics, Inc. * * and updated each minute as reports come in over our data feed.
    * *
    * * **Note: If you cannot get past this opening screen, you must use a
    * * different version of the "telnet" program--some of the ones forIBM
    * * compatible PC's have a bug that prevents proper connection.
    * *
    * * comments: jmasters@wunderground.com
    * ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --

    This screen is as far asI can get. I haveto CTRL-] to disconnect. The
    url s:

    rainmaker.wunderground.com

    Maybe you can try it on your end.

    Yeah, I'll give it a look-see and let you know.

    digital man

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to KenDB3 on Thu Nov 27 09:59:00 2014
    On Wed, 05 Nov 2014, KenDB3 wrote to Digital Man:

    Now, since then Ihave tried it on your BBS and it works (except
    I can't see what I have typed into the prompt, but the text is
    certainly there because it works when I hit enter). Also, my own
    Telgate on my BBS is working just the same as it is on yours. So, whatever was going on stopped, and it was probably on Weather Underground's end.

    You can enable local echo with the telgate TG_ECHO option.

    Thanks digital man! Is that done right on the command line that
    calls the telgate, or is that in a config file somewhere?

    max and i were playing with this earlier today after she ran her CVS update scriptand loaded the latest synchronet code... we ended up copying the telgate.js script to weathergate.js and editing it to includeTG_LINEMODE, TG_ECHO, and TG_CRLF on the options likeafter the TG_PASSTHRU option... the pause line was commented out so that the script just displayed the telgate CTRL-] note and then displayed that it was connecting to that wunderground host...

    itseems that the key factors were the TG_LINEMODE and TG_CRLF options... those were discovered as being needed when we tried a straight telnet directly to that host from linux... nothing worked until we toggled "mode line" and then we













































































  • From Zazz@VERT to Bill McGarrity on Sat Jul 11 13:24:32 2015
    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Bill McGarrity to All on Wed Oct 29 2014 10:49 am

    Quick question. Can I use Window's telent.exe as a command in a door to connect to an outside IP and have the I/O appear in the callers client? Reason behind this, the IP i am trying to access requires a newer version of telnet than what is supplied with Synchronet's telgate. At a command prompt using Windows telnet I can access the site with no problems. Connecting to the system with a client the system opens a DOS window, the information is displayed within that window yet nothing to the incoming client. Do I need to configure the Intercept I/O? Right now all I have toggled is Native to Yes and Shell to yes.

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  • From Zazz@VERT to Bill McGarrity on Sat Jul 11 13:25:59 2015
    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Bill McGarrity to All on Wed Oct 29 2014 10:49 am

    Quick question. Can I use Window's telent.exe as a command in a door to connect to an outside IP and have the I/O appear in the callers client? Reason behind this, the IP i am trying to access requires a newer version of telnet than what is supplied with Synchronet's telgate. At a command prompt using Windows telnet I can access the site with no problems. Connecting to the system with a client the system opens a DOS window, the information is displayed within that window yet nothing to the incoming client. Do I need to configure the Intercept I/O? Right now all I have toggled is Native to Yes and Shell to yes.
    Have you used Telnetdoor.exe from Rich Parish. I use it on Synchronet and Mystic board and have had no problems with it.

    ... If people don't want to come to the ball park, nobody's going to stop them

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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT to Zazz on Sat Jul 11 15:16:00 2015
    Zazz wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-

    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Bill McGarrity to All on Wed Oct 29 2014 10:49 am

    Quick question. Can I use Window's telent.exe as a command in a door to connect to an outside IP and have the I/O appear in the callers client? Reason behind this, the IP i am trying to access requires a newer version of telnet than what is supplied with Synchronet's telgate. At a command prompt using Windows telnet I can access the site with no problems. Connecting to the system with a client the system opens a DOS window, the information is displayed within that window yet nothing to the incoming client. Do I need to configure the Intercept I/O? Right now all I have toggled is Native to Yes and Shell to yes.

    Have you used Telnetdoor.exe from Rich Parish. I use it on Synchronet
    and Mystic board and have had no problems with it.

    No need to... I got the telgate working properly for the door I was asking about.

    Thanks



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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Zazz on Mon Jul 13 15:33:05 2015
    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Zazz to Bill McGarrity on Sat Jul 11 2015 01:24 pm

    Re: Windows Telnet...
    By: Bill McGarrity to All on Wed Oct 29 2014 10:49 am

    Quick question. Can I use Window's telent.exe as a command in a door to connect to an outside IP and have the I/O appear in the callers client? Reason behind this, the IP i am trying to access requires a newer version of telnet than what is supplied with Synchronet's telgate. At a command prompt using Windows telnet I can access the site with no problems. Connecting to the system with a client the system opens a DOS window, the information is displayed within that window yet nothing to the incoming client. Do I need to configure the Intercept I/O? Right now all I have toggled is Native to Yes and Shell to yes.

    I think what you want to use is mudgate.js or unixgate.js. Have you tried those?

    digital man

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