• BAJA question

    From Hkb@VERT to All on Tue Nov 10 11:20:00 1998
    How would I.....
    1. Mod the Chat Section.
    2. Mod the WFC.
    If you know how please post.. Thanx.
    Hkb

    ---
    Synchronet Explorer - explorer.detour.net 7:00-8:00pm
  • From Tommyknocker@VERT to Hkb on Tue Nov 10 23:13:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Hkb to All on Tue Nov 10 1998 07:20 pm

    1. Mod the Chat Section.

    If you mean the menu then sbbs\text\menu\chat.asc
    if you mean chat itself, that is part of sbbs.exe

    2. Mod the WFC.

    sbbs\text\menu\wfc.asc
    mmKnkr


    ---
    Synchronet telnet://talamasca-bbs.com http://www.talamasca-bbs.com
  • From Beta@VERT to Hkb on Wed Nov 11 11:18:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Hkb to All on Tue Nov 10 1998 07:20 pm

    1. Mod the Chat Section.

    The Chat Section is incorperated into the command shell Eg. DEFAULT.SRC

    2. Mod the WFC.

    I'm lost, what is the WFC?
    Beta

    ---
    Synchronet Um, no DNS lookup yet, my ICQ is 9833063
  • From Tommyknocker@VERT to Beta on Wed Nov 11 12:10:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Beta to Hkb on Wed Nov 11 1998 07:18 pm

    2. Mod the WFC.
    I'm lost, what is the WFC?

    Waiting For Call screen.
    mmKnkr


    ---
    Synchronet telnet://talamasca-bbs.com http://www.talamasca-bbs.com
  • From Hkb@VERT to Tommyknocker on Wed Nov 11 08:13:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Tommyknocker to Hkb on Wed Nov 11 1998 07:13 am

    if you mean chat itself, that is part of sbbs.exe

    Thanks Anyways....

    ---
    Synchronet Explorer - explorer.detour.net 7:00-8:00pm
  • From Beta@VERT to Tommyknocker on Wed Nov 11 23:25:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Tommyknocker to Beta on Wed Nov 11 1998 08:10 pm

    2. Mod the WFC.
    I'm lost, what is the WFC?

    Waiting For Call screen.

    Cool, never tried playing with that one.... Played with the welcome.asc, put a pause prompt in it and messed up the QNET.SRC script the other day...
    Beta

    ---
    Synchronet Um, no DNS lookup yet, my ICQ is 9833063
  • From Ksandre Katrius@VERT to Hkb on Thu Nov 12 04:28:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Hkb to All on Tue Nov 10 1998 19:20:00

    How would I.....
    2. Mod the WFC.

    Now that I would like to know too!
    I want _all_ the options at the WFC Screen to _require_ a PassWord!

    ---
    Synchronet BajaHaus at MEKHET's IFHU TOWER_OF_DESTINY_BBS 603-293-0580
  • From Aragorn@VERT to Beta on Sat Nov 14 08:49:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Beta to Hkb on Wed Nov 11 1998 07:18 pm

    1. Mod the Chat Section.

    The Chat Section is incorperated into the command shell Eg. DEFAULT.SRC

    2. Mod the WFC.

    I'm lost, what is the WFC?

    Waiting-For-Call [Screen] It's the menu that shows on the screen while the node is waiting for a call (sometimes the menu might be turned off if the sysop's account is set to expert menu mode)


    ---
    Synchronet Mars Base BBS - (360)882-0773 - Vancouver, WA
  • From Aragorn@VERT to Beta on Sat Nov 14 08:50:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Beta to Tommyknocker on Thu Nov 12 1998 07:25 am

    2. Mod the WFC.
    I'm lost, what is the WFC?

    Waiting For Call screen.

    Cool, never tried playing with that one.... Played with the welcome.asc, p pause prompt in it and messed up the QNET.SRC script the other day...

    I made a cool custom WFC screen with my BBS logo in big letters and all my custom menu options below it =)


    ---
    Synchronet Mars Base BBS - (360)882-0773 - Vancouver, WA
  • From Tommyknocker@VERT to Aragorn on Sat Nov 14 15:18:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Aragorn to Beta on Sat Nov 14 1998 04:50 pm

    I made a cool custom WFC screen with my BBS logo in big letters and all my custom menu options below it =)

    Well I use a simple, but very effecient WFC screen. Running 7 nodes across 4 machines, I wanted something to let me know the node, as well as hard drive status. Be glad to put it up for download if anyone wants a copy of it.
    mmKnkr



    ---
    Synchronet telnet://talamasca-bbs.com http://www.talamasca-bbs.com
  • From Beta@VERT to Aragorn on Sun Nov 15 05:00:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Aragorn to Beta on Sat Nov 14 1998 04:50 pm

    Cool, never tried playing with that one.... Played with the welcome.asc, pause prompt in it and messed up the QNET.SRC script the other day...

    I made a cool custom WFC screen with my BBS logo in big letters and all my custom menu options below it =)

    Cool how?
    Beeta

    ---
    Synchronet Um, no DNS lookup yet, my ICQ is 9833063
  • From Beta@VERT to Tommyknocker on Sun Nov 15 05:02:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Tommyknocker to Aragorn on Sat Nov 14 1998 11:18 pm

    I made a cool custom WFC screen with my BBS logo in big letters and all m custom menu options below it =)

    Well I use a simple, but very effecient WFC screen. Running 7 nodes across machines, I wanted something to let me know the node, as well as hard drive status. Be glad to put it up for download if anyone wants a copy of it.

    Sure!
    Beta

    ---
    Synchronet Um, no DNS lookup yet, my ICQ is 9833063
  • From Tommyknocker@VERT to Beta on Sun Nov 15 14:38:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Beta to Tommyknocker on Sun Nov 15 1998 01:02 pm

    Well I use a simple, but very effecient WFC screen. Running 7 nodes acr machines, I wanted something to let me know the node, as well as hard dri status. Be glad to put it up for download if anyone wants a copy of it.
    Sure!
    Beta

    Ok look in TommyKnockers Mods.
    mmKnkr


    ---
    Synchronet telnet://talamasca-bbs.com http://www.talamasca-bbs.com
  • From Hkb@VERT to Tommyknocker on Sun Nov 15 00:47:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Tommyknocker to Aragorn on Sat Nov 14 1998 11:18 pm

    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Aragorn to Beta on Sat Nov 14 1998 04:50 pm

    I made a cool custom WFC screen with my BBS logo in big letters and all m custom menu options below it =)

    Well I use a simple, but very effecient WFC screen. Running 7 nodes across machines, I wanted something to let me know the node, as well as hard drive status. Be glad to put it up for download if anyone wants a copy of it.
    mmKnkr



    This is one thing I have to know. When I have expert mode on (I really can't stand with out it on) Why dosn't it show the WFC. I dwonloaded a cool WFC from Ozone. Only problem was that I didn't know what node it was... 1 2 3 4 or 5
    So I added Node @NODE@
    Seems to be fine now. But I have to hit "?"....

    ---
    Synchronet Explorer - explorer.detour.net 7:00-8:00pm
  • From Reaper Man@VERT to Ksandre Katrius on Sun Nov 15 05:02:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Ksandre Katrius to Hkb on Thu Nov 12 1998 12:28:00

    How would I.....
    2. Mod the WFC.

    Now that I would like to know too!
    I want _all_ the options at the WFC Screen to _require_ a PassWord!

    in the \sbbs\exec\str_cmds.src file it shows how to setup commands to require the sysop password.

    ---
    Synchronet Flamin' Torch BBS - The Board on Fire
  • From Reaper Man@VERT to Aragorn on Sun Nov 15 05:06:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Aragorn to Beta on Sat Nov 14 1998 16:50:00

    I made a cool custom WFC screen with my BBS logo in big letters and all my custom menu options below it =)

    I lke the one with the burning skulls...


    ---
    Synchronet Flamin' Torch BBS - The Board on Fire
  • From Aragorn@VERT to Tommyknocker on Sun Nov 15 09:13:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Tommyknocker to Aragorn on Sat Nov 14 1998 11:18 pm

    I made a cool custom WFC screen with my BBS logo in big letters and all custom menu options below it =)

    Well I use a simple, but very effecient WFC screen. Running 7 nodes acros machines, I wanted something to let me know the node, as well as hard drive status. Be glad to put it up for download if anyone wants a copy of it.

    Cool... Yeah, I put the node number, date, and time (when the screen was displayed =) at the very bottom...


    ---
    Synchronet Mars Base BBS - (360)882-0773 - Vancouver, WA
  • From Hkb@VERT to Beta on Mon Nov 16 00:09:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Beta to Aragorn on Sun Nov 15 1998 01:00 pm

    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Aragorn to Beta on Sat Nov 14 1998 04:50 pm

    Cool, never tried playing with that one.... Played with the welcome.a pause prompt in it and messed up the QNET.SRC script the other day...

    I made a cool custom WFC screen with my BBS logo in big letters and all m custom menu options below it =)

    Cool how?
    Beeta

    He edited WFC.ASC c:\sbbs\text\menu

    ---
    Synchronet Explorer - explorer.detour.net 7:00-8:00pm
  • From Aragorn@VERT to Beta on Mon Nov 16 14:14:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Beta to Aragorn on Sun Nov 15 1998 01:00 pm

    Cool, never tried playing with that one.... Played with the welcome. pause prompt in it and messed up the QNET.SRC script the other day...

    I made a cool custom WFC screen with my BBS logo in big letters and all custom menu options below it =)

    Cool how?

    I just edited WFC.ANS... I already had an ANSI logo for my BBS (I think it was made by a .PCX->ANSI converter that converted a screenshot of my BBS' name typed in large letters in a special font [Robotech TrueType] in MSPaint or something like that =) Of course, I cleaned it up in an ANSI editor and added frills and such ;) In fact, the WFC logo looks better than the welcome screen on the BBS (actually it's the first logon screen, since I use welcome.asc/ans for the randomized big intro ANSIs my BBS is notorious for =)


    ---
    Synchronet Mars Base BBS - (360)882-0773 - Vancouver, WA
  • From Aragorn@VERT to Hkb on Mon Nov 16 14:18:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Hkb to Tommyknocker on Sun Nov 15 1998 08:47 am

    This is one thing I have to know. When I have expert mode on (I really can' stand with out it on) Why dosn't it show the WFC. I dwonloaded a cool WFC f

    That had me stumped for the longest time! I didn't know what the problem was until I posted on the chat board... It's okay though because I don't notice the non-WFC menus when I'm logged on locally anyways because it's fast (it's just when I'm logged on from my 486DX-33 with the 14400 internal Rockwell w/no error correction that it becomes a bother =)

    Ozone. Only problem was that I didn't know what node it was... 1 2 3 4 or 5 So I added Node @NODE@
    Seems to be fine now. But I have to hit "?"....

    Just turn the expert mode off like you said, unless it annoys you to see the menus when you're logged on...


    ---
    Synchronet Mars Base BBS - (360)882-0773 - Vancouver, WA
  • From Aragorn@VERT to Reaper Man on Mon Nov 16 14:20:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Reaper Man to Aragorn on Sun Nov 15 1998 01:06 pm

    I made a cool custom WFC screen with my BBS logo in big letters and all custom menu options below it =)

    I lke the one with the burning skulls...

    Yeah but it's for another BBS =) I wanted to make my own, for my own BBS...


    ---
    Synchronet Mars Base BBS - (360)882-0773 - Vancouver, WA
  • From Beta@VERT to Hkb on Tue Nov 17 09:28:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Hkb to Beta on Mon Nov 16 1998 08:09 am

    I made a cool custom WFC screen with my BBS logo in big letters and al custom menu options below it =)

    Cool how?
    Beeta

    He edited WFC.ASC c:\sbbs\text\menu

    I noticed that now..... I wish the screen for when you have expert menu mode on could be changed... Anyone know how?
    Beta

    ---
    Synchronet Um, no DNS lookup yet, my ICQ is 9833063
  • From Tommyknocker@VERT to Beta on Tue Nov 17 23:00:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Beta to Hkb on Tue Nov 17 1998 05:28 pm

    I noticed that now..... I wish the screen for when you have expert menu mod on could be changed... Anyone know how?

    Hit a ?
    mmKnkr


    ---
    Synchronet telnet://talamasca-bbs.com http://www.talamasca-bbs.com
  • From Hkb@VERT to Beta on Wed Nov 18 08:30:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Beta to Hkb on Tue Nov 17 1998 05:28 pm

    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Hkb to Beta on Mon Nov 16 1998 08:09 am

    I made a cool custom WFC screen with my BBS logo in big letters and custom menu options below it =)

    Cool how?
    Beeta

    He edited WFC.ASC c:\sbbs\text\menu

    I noticed that now..... I wish the screen for when you have expert menu mod on could be changed... Anyone know how?
    Beta

    I know!!!! You can type "?"
    it really sucks.

    ---
    Synchronet Explorer - explorer.detour.net 7:00-8:00pm
  • From Reaper Man@VERT to Beta on Wed Nov 18 14:22:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Beta to Hkb on Tue Nov 17 1998 17:28:00

    I noticed that now..... I wish the screen for when you have expert menu mod on could be changed... Anyone know how?

    accually the WFC shown when in export mode is basicly the internal screen saver.

    ---
    Synchronet Flamin' Torch BBS - The Board on Fire
  • From Beta@VERT to Tommyknocker on Wed Nov 18 08:23:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Tommyknocker to Beta on Wed Nov 18 1998 07:00 am

    I noticed that now..... I wish the screen for when you have expert menu on could be changed... Anyone know how?

    Hit a ?

    Nonononnono, the screen you get with the stats at the top?
    Beta

    ---
    Synchronet Um, no DNS lookup yet, my ICQ is 9833063
  • From Beta@VERT to Reaper Man on Thu Nov 19 08:20:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Reaper Man to Beta on Wed Nov 18 1998 10:22 pm

    I noticed that now..... I wish the screen for when you have expert menu on could be changed... Anyone know how?

    accually the WFC shown when in export mode is basicly the internal screen saver.

    Figured so.... I guess the only way to edit it would be to decompile SBBS into ASM and play with it.... But as I don't know ASM.....
    beta

    ---
    Synchronet Um, no DNS lookup yet, my ICQ is 9833063
  • From Aragorn@VERT to Reaper Man on Fri Nov 20 05:41:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Reaper Man to Beta on Wed Nov 18 1998 10:22 pm

    I noticed that now..... I wish the screen for when you have expert menu on could be changed... Anyone know how?

    accually the WFC shown when in export mode is basicly the internal screen saver.

    ACTUALLY, I think it shows that statistics screen if you set it to... I know because I had it that way for the longest time until I figured out how to do my own WFC menu =)


    ---
    Synchronet Mars Base BBS - (360)882-0773 - Vancouver, WA
  • From Aragorn@VERT to Beta on Fri Nov 20 05:50:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Beta to Reaper Man on Thu Nov 19 1998 04:20 pm

    I noticed that now..... I wish the screen for when you have expert m on could be changed... Anyone know how?

    accually the WFC shown when in export mode is basicly the internal scree saver.

    Figured so.... I guess the only way to edit it would be to decompile SBBS i ASM and play with it.... But as I don't know ASM.....

    Or you could just d/l a copy the source (if you have an ancient 16-bit C compiler, that is ;)


    ---
    Synchronet Mars Base BBS - (360)882-0773 - Vancouver, WA
  • From Beta@VERT to Aragorn on Sat Nov 21 15:53:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Aragorn to Beta on Fri Nov 20 1998 01:50 pm

    Figured so.... I guess the only way to edit it would be to decompile SBBS ASM and play with it.... But as I don't know ASM.....

    Or you could just d/l a copy the source (if you have an ancient 16-bit C compiler, that is ;)

    Where in the world do you find the source???? I can get the compiler.... prolly.... A few of my bud's *might* be able to figure out Rob's coding... Beta

    ---
    Synchronet Um, no DNS lookup yet, my ICQ is 9833063
  • From Tommyknocker@VERT to Beta on Sun Nov 22 03:23:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Beta to Aragorn on Sat Nov 21 1998 11:53 pm

    Where in the world do you find the source???? I can get the compiler.... prolly.... A few of my bud's *might* be able to figure out Rob's coding...

    The source is on The Talamasca in the Synchronet Files Directory.
    sbbs_src.zip

    This is the full source code for Synchronet. I think you are in for a shock though Beta, this thing is hugh, wait until you see it and you will know what I mean. I looked at it, but not being a programmer, I had no idea where to even start messing with it.
    mmKnkr


    ---
    Synchronet telnet://talamasca-bbs.com http://www.talamasca-bbs.com
  • From Beta@VERT to Tommyknocker on Sun Nov 22 12:10:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Tommyknocker to Beta on Sun Nov 22 1998 11:23 am

    Where in the world do you find the source???? I can get the compiler.... prolly.... A few of my bud's *might* be able to figure out Rob's coding.
    This is the full source code for Synchronet. I think you are in for a shock though Beta, this thing is hugh, wait until you see it and you will kn what I mean. I looked at it, but not being a programmer, I had no idea where even start messing with it.

    I looked at the source for a LORD IGM and was blown away..... :)
    Beta

    ---
    Synchronet Um, no DNS lookup yet, my ICQ is 9833063
  • From Reaper Man@VERT to Aragorn on Sat Nov 21 17:32:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Aragorn to Reaper Man on Fri Nov 20 1998 13:41:00

    ACTUALLY, I think it shows that statistics screen if you set it to... I know because I had it that way for the longest time until I figured out how to do my own WFC menu =)

    ya, and as usual I don't have that option set, so I am the proud owner of a constantly moving cursor. just random delays and possitioning :)

    ---
    Synchronet Flamin' Torch BBS - The Board on Fire
  • From Reaper Man@VERT to Tommyknocker on Mon Nov 23 13:06:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Tommyknocker to Beta on Sun Nov 22 1998 11:23:00

    The source is on The Talamasca in the Synchronet Files Directory.
    sbbs_src.zip

    This is the full source code for Synchronet. I think you are in for a shock though Beta, this thing is hugh, wait until you see it and you will kn what I mean. I looked at it, but not being a programmer, I had no idea where even start messing with it.

    sounds like fun.
    where here doesnt enjoy rumaging through other ppls code?

    ---
    Synchronet Flamin' Torch BBS - The Board on Fire
  • From Aragorn@VERT to Beta on Mon Nov 23 16:09:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Beta to Aragorn on Sat Nov 21 1998 11:53 pm

    Figured so.... I guess the only way to edit it would be to decompile ASM and play with it.... But as I don't know ASM.....

    Or you could just d/l a copy the source (if you have an ancient 16-bit C compiler, that is ;)

    Where in the world do you find the source???? I can get the compiler.... prolly.... A few of my bud's *might* be able to figure out Rob's coding...

    It's right on the official Synchronet FTP site, accessible via the official Synchronet web site at http://www.weedpuller.com/synchronet/


    ---
    Synchronet Mars Base BBS - (360)882-0773 - Vancouver, WA
  • From Aragorn@VERT to Tommyknocker on Mon Nov 23 16:11:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Tommyknocker to Beta on Sun Nov 22 1998 11:23 am

    Where in the world do you find the source???? I can get the compiler.... prolly.... A few of my bud's *might* be able to figure out Rob's coding

    The source is on The Talamasca in the Synchronet Files Directory.
    sbbs_src.zip

    This is the full source code for Synchronet. I think you are in for a shock though Beta, this thing is hugh, wait until you see it and you will k what I mean. I looked at it, but not being a programmer, I had no idea wher even start messing with it.

    I looked at it, _being_ a programmer (a C programmer, no less!), but still had no idea where to start with it! It's compilcated. It's 16-bit. It uses custom libraries that aren't included (at least not in source form, which means porting to other compilers is next to impossible unless you know exactly what those libraries do and can thus write replacements)

    ---
    Synchronet Mars Base BBS - (360)882-0773 - Vancouver, WA
  • From Beta@VERT to Aragorn on Wed Nov 25 09:41:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Aragorn to Tommyknocker on Tue Nov 24 1998 12:11 am

    I looked at it, _being_ a programmer (a C programmer, no less!), but still h no idea where to start with it! It's compilcated. It's 16-bit. It uses custo libraries that aren't included (at least not in source form, which means porting to other compilers is next to impossible unless you know exactly wha those libraries do and can thus write replacements)

    The one I got off The Talamasca has all the librarys....
    beta

    ---
    Synchronet Um, no DNS lookup yet, my ICQ is 9833063
  • From Ksandre Katrius@VERT to All on Wed Nov 25 18:46:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Aragorn to Tommyknocker on Tue Nov 24 1998 00:11:00

    no idea where to start with it! It's compilcated. It's 16-bit. It uses custo libraries that aren't included (at least not in source form, which means porting to other compilers is next to impossible unless you know exactly wha those libraries do and can thus write replacements)


    What are those other SBBS files list the "XSDK" external that comes with SBBS and the seperate one called "SBBSDEFS.ZIP?" (Not to mention all those other things packed in the \SBBS\EXEC\ directory with the archive...)

    You mean that not everything is available that anyone needs to tinker with it?

    ---
    Synchronet BajaHaus at MEKHET's IFHU TOWER_OF_DESTINY_BBS 603-293-0580
  • From Aragorn@VERT to Beta on Fri Nov 27 05:15:00 1998
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Beta to Aragorn on Wed Nov 25 1998 05:41 pm

    I looked at it, _being_ a programmer (a C programmer, no less!), but sti no idea where to start with it! It's compilcated. It's 16-bit. It uses c libraries that aren't included (at least not in source form, which means porting to other compilers is next to impossible unless you know exactly those libraries do and can thus write replacements)

    The one I got off The Talamasca has all the librarys....

    Yes, in 16-bit .OBJ format, IIRC. It would have been much better to release the source to those libraries so that porting to 32-bit compilers would be easier (or maybe "possible" would be a better word)

    But this is the BAJA sub, so let's move this to the Sync Discussion sub if we're going to keep talking about it =)


    ---
    Synchronet Mars Base BBS - (360)882-0773 - Vancouver, WA
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Aragorn on Mon Nov 29 08:45:31 1999
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Aragorn to Tommyknocker on Tue Nov 24 1998 12:11 am

    Where in the world do you find the source???? I can get the compiler.. prolly.... A few of my bud's *might* be able to figure out Rob's codi

    The source is on The Talamasca in the Synchronet Files Directory.
    sbbs_src.zip

    This is the full source code for Synchronet. I think you are in for shock though Beta, this thing is hugh, wait until you see it and you will what I mean. I looked at it, but not being a programmer, I had no idea wh even start messing with it.

    I looked at it, _being_ a programmer (a C programmer, no less!), but still h no idea where to start with it! It's compilcated. It's 16-bit. It uses custo libraries that aren't included (at least not in source form, which means porting to other compilers is next to impossible unless you know exactly wha those libraries do and can thus write replacements)

    I realize this is an old message, but felt compelled to respond.

    o The released source code is not 16-bit only: The OS/2 and Win32 versions (both 32-bit) were compiled from the same code.

    o The only included library that didn't come with source (because I don't have it) rciol.obj, was for the DOS version only. I wrote a native OS/2 and Win32 version of this same library in C and included the source code for it (riolib.c). You could still build the DOS version and modify it to your hearts content without the source to rciol.obj. And if you wanted to know how the API worked, you have the C version (in riolib.c) to reference. rciol.obj was written in assembler and was not written for any specific "compiler". You just link it with your C obj files (compiled with any 16-bit x86 C compiler) and it would work. If you wanted to port the code to Linux or some other non-x86 platform, you would more likely start with the riolib.c source code as a reference. So I'm not sure what this talk of "custom libraries" was all about.

    Rob
    ---
    Synchronet Vertrauen Home of Synchronet telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Aragorn on Mon Nov 29 08:59:38 1999
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Aragorn to Beta on Fri Nov 27 1998 01:15 pm

    The one I got off The Talamasca has all the librarys....

    Yes, in 16-bit .OBJ format, IIRC. It would have been much better to release the source to those libraries so that porting to 32-bit compilers would be easier (or maybe "possible" would be a better word)

    Again, I realize this is an old message, but I feel compelled to clarify the matter:

    The 16-bit OBJ file that was included without source was for the DOS version
    of SBBS.EXE only. The C source code for a 32-bit version of this same library is included in the source (riolib.c) and was used to build the OS/2 and Win32 versions of SBBS. A port to a 32-bit compiler was more than "possible", it was already done for you (the released source code compiled successfully with Borland C++ for OS/2 and Borland C++ for Win32).

    Porting to a non-Borland compiler was also very "possible" (without any additional source code), as I, myself, recently ported the code to Microsoft Visual C++ (32-bit) without much effort. The code I ported I got from SBBS_SRC.ZIP (just like anyone else could have).

    Rob
    ---
    Synchronet Vertrauen Home of Synchronet telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From Aragorn@VERT to Digital Man on Thu Feb 10 04:53:54 2000
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Digital Man to Aragorn on Mon Nov 29 1999 04:45 pm

    OTE: DCTEdit v0.04 [14]
    I looked at it, _being_ a programmer (a C programmer, no
    less!), but stil no idea where to start with it! It's
    compilcated. It's 16-bit. It uses cu libraries that aren't
    included (at least not in source form, which means porting
    to other compilers is next to impossible unless you know
    exactly those libraries do and can thus write replacements)

    I realize this is an old message, but felt compelled to
    respond. o The released source code is not 16-bit only: The
    OS/2 and Win32 versions (both 32-bit) were compiled from the
    same code. o The only included library that didn't come with
    source (because I don't ha it) rciol.obj, was for the DOS
    version only. I wrote a native OS/2 and Win32 version of
    this same library in C and included the source code for it
    (riolib.c). You could still build the DOS version and modify
    it to your hear content without the source to rciol.obj. And
    if you wanted to know how the A worked, you have the C
    version (in riolib.c) to reference. rciol.obj was written in
    assembler and was not written for any specific "compiler".
    You ju link it with your C obj files (compiled with any
    16-bit x86 C compiler) and would work. If you wanted to port
    the code to Linux or some other non-x86 platform, you would
    more likely start with the riolib.c source code as a
    reference. So I'm not sure what this talk of "custom
    libraries" was all abou Rob

    Hi! I just dropped in for a visit to see what's up with SBBS and DoveNet =)

    Well it's been well over a year since I looked at it, but I seem to recall seeing at least 2 or 3 .obj libraries (16-bit libraries compatable only with certain Microsoft and Borland compilers) that didn't come with any matching .c code that could be used in place of them (or as a basis for writing ones that could). Maybe you released the .c source for riolib in a newer source release than the one I had, or (more likely) I didn't see the riolib.c file.

    Anyways, congratulations on the native Win32 port of SBBS! If I ever get a DSL or cable connection to the Internet, I might revive Mars Base again (or maybe it will be called Reflex Point BBS, since my parents' box [that MB ran on] was named "Mars Base" by me, and the PII-450 I have now I call ReflexPoint =)

    I can't believe there are still posts from me here in the Dove subs... Looks like I didn't do much Dove after 1998, although my BBS was up until July '99.

    Ok I'm going to ramble now (as I have always been famous for) because I thought someone might be interested to know that there's an entire computer lab at the U of W whose NT boxes are named after characters from Red Dwarf =)

    Later,
    Aragorn (actually I go by HunterZ these days, but SBBS still doesn't allow capital letters in the middle of a word that's part of a handle =)

    P.S. Please reply via e-mail if you want me to see your reply =) =)

    ... AD&D Famous last words: "Forget picking the lock, just kick the door down ---
    Synchronet Vertrauen Home of Synchronet telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Aragorn on Thu Feb 10 05:29:08 2000
    RE: BAJA question
    BY: Aragorn to Digital Man on Thu Feb 10 2000 12:53 pm

    I realize this is an old message, but felt compelled to
    respond. o The released source code is not 16-bit only: The

    Hi! I just dropped in for a visit to see what's up with SBBS and DoveNet =)

    Well it's been well over a year since I looked at it, but I seem to recall seeing at least 2 or 3 .obj libraries (16-bit libraries compatable only with certain Microsoft and Borland compilers) that didn't come with any matching code that could be used in place of them (or as a basis for writing ones tha could). Maybe you released the .c source for riolib in a newer source releas than the one I had, or (more likely) I didn't see the riolib.c file.

    I've only released the source code once (in '97) and yes, riolib.c was part of that release (in the directory SBBS\RIO). riolib.c is a 32-bit Win32/OS2 replacement for the 16-bit riocl.obj communications library.

    Anyways, congratulations on the native Win32 port of SBBS!

    Thanks!

    If I ever get a D
    or cable connection to the Internet, I might revive Mars Base again (or mayb it will be called Reflex Point BBS, since my parents' box [that MB ran on] w named "Mars Base" by me, and the PII-450 I have now I call ReflexPoint =)

    Cool, hope it happens. The more the merrier!

    I can't believe there are still posts from me here in the Dove subs... Looks like I didn't do much Dove after 1998, although my BBS was up until July '99

    Yeah, TK keeps a lot of messages in this subs. :-)

    Aragorn (actually I go by HunterZ these days, but SBBS still doesn't allow capital letters in the middle of a word that's part of a handle =)

    Of course, the source code IS available. :-)

    P.S. Please reply via e-mail if you want me to see your reply =) =)

    You didn't leave an e-mail address. :-(

    Rob
    ---
    Synchronet Vertrauen Home of Synchronet telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From TommyKnocker@VERT to Reaper Man on Mon Nov 6 09:07:00 2000
    RE: Win Modems?
    BY: Reaper Man to Digital Man on Sun Nov 05 2000 06:25 pm

    but someone could write a prog to answer a modem and then telnet into sync a use that to exchange data right <hiding>

    Just run a 2.3 node for the modem line.
    TK

    ---
    Synchronet telnet://talamasca-bbs.com http://talamasca-bbs.com
  • From TommyKnocker@VERT to Digital Man on Tue Nov 7 09:20:00 2000
    RE: Compiling ".so" for SMB
    BY: Digital Man to Amcleod on Mon Nov 06 2000 01:16 pm

    It actually compiles, links, and runs (assuming you have a /sbbs/ctrl direct with the proper .cnf files). It even answers an incoming telnet connection, displays "Synchronet for Linux Version 3.00 Copyright 2000 Rob Swindell" a then immediately segfaults. :-)

    This is a major achievment folks! It means my threading model works on Linux and my socket calls are all BSD-kosher (they needed some massaging). Yippee!

    Great news Rob. Looks like I might just have to build another Linux box in the near future.
    TK

    ---
    Synchronet telnet://talamasca-bbs.com http://talamasca-bbs.com