• BBSes and computers

    From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Psi-Jack on Thu Jul 25 09:08:29 2019
    Re: Decker's Heaven BBS -//- A shadowrun themed BBS -//-
    By: MRO to Psi-Jack on Wed Jul 24 2019 10:23 pm

    hey your bbs ad didnt work out so well. maybe use straight ascii

    I was able to see his ad just fine. But in the lines you quoted, it doesn't look so good.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thu Jul 25 16:31:25 2019
    Re: BBSes and computers
    By: Nightfox to Psi-Jack on Thu Jul 25 2019 09:08 am

    Re: Decker's Heaven BBS -//- A shadowrun themed BBS -//-
    By: MRO to Psi-Jack on Wed Jul 24 2019 10:23 pm

    hey your bbs ad didnt work out so well. maybe use straight ascii

    I was able to see his ad just fine. But in the lines you quoted, it doesn't look so good.

    it's probably because i use slyedit. the author put a bunch of bugs into it.


    here is what it looks like on my end
    https://i.imgur.com/Z8ffuP4.png

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Fri Jul 26 20:40:00 2019
    I was able to see his ad just fine. But in the lines you quoted, it doesn't look so good.

    At first I thought it was just me or my system, but I saw his ads in
    multiple echos and they did not display well. All the other ANSI ads in
    the echos in question displayed fine, which made me assume it isn't just me (and MRO).

    I am looking at them all in an offline reader. Maybe I need to look at it while connected to the BBS to see it right.

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  • From Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHVN2 to Nightfox on Sun Jul 28 05:42:33 2019
    Re: BBSes and computers
    By: Nightfox to Psi-Jack on Thu Jul 25 2019 09:08 am

    hey your bbs ad didnt work out so well. maybe use straight ascii

    I was able to see his ad just fine. But in the lines you quoted, it doesn't look so good.

    I actually specifically went through my ANSI BBS Ad too, to make sure it stopped at character 79 instead of 80 so it wouldn't break and wrap. I've been seeing them perfectly, while I've seen others...... Turn out really bad, which is why I tested mine first, viewed it in a non-echoed message base, before I deployed it out. Which I'm doing completely by manually-run script, not automated, because, why automate something you want people to see? :D

    )))[Psi-Jack -//- Decker]

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  • From Psi-Jack@VERT/DECKHVN2 to Dumas Walker on Sun Jul 28 05:50:55 2019
    Re: BBSes and computers
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Fri Jul 26 2019 08:40 pm

    At first I thought it was just me or my system, but I saw his ads in multiple echos and they did not display well. All the other ANSI ads in the echos in question displayed fine, which made me assume it isn't just me (and MRO).

    Hmmm.. Well, I know in Synchronet, at least with DDMsgReader, they view fine. I believe they work well as well with the standard Synchronet reader also and from what I could tell they also viewed fine on Mystic BBSes.

    It was touched up with that kinda newish Moebius ANSI editor in Linux, so it could have possibly something in effect to do with it, so definitely something I can look into more. But I have seen people come on over because of seeing the ads I put out. Really catches the eye apparently. :)

    I am looking at them all in an offline reader. Maybe I need to look at it while connected to the BBS to see it right.

    What offline message reader are you using? (and is it Windows based? Curious because I'd have to try it out with wine if it is).

    )))[Psi-Jack -//- Decker]

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Psi-Jack on Sun Jul 28 12:41:31 2019
    Re: BBSes and computers
    By: Psi-Jack to Nightfox on Sun Jul 28 2019 05:42 am

    Re: BBSes and computers
    By: Nightfox to Psi-Jack on Thu Jul 25 2019 09:08 am

    hey your bbs ad didnt work out so well. maybe use straight ascii
    I actually specifically went through my ANSI BBS Ad too, to make sure it stopped at character 79 instead of 80 so it wouldn't break and wrap. I've been seeing them perfectly, while I've seen others...... Turn out really bad, which is why I tested mine first, viewed it in a non-echoed message base, before I deployed it out. Which I'm doing completely by manually-run script, not automated, because, why automate something you want people to see? :D



    so you are arguing your ad looks fine when i posted a screenshot showing it doesnt?

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sun Jul 28 12:48:10 2019
    Re: BBSes and computers
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Fri Jul 26 2019 08:40 pm

    I was able to see his ad just fine. But in the lines you quoted, it doesn't look so good.

    At first I thought it was just me or my system, but I saw his ads in multiple echos and they did not display well. All the other ANSI ads in
    the echos in question displayed fine, which made me assume it isn't just me (and MRO).

    I am looking at them all in an offline reader. Maybe I need to look at it while connected to the BBS to see it right.






    the other people's ansi ads look fine to me. this psyjack's stuff doesnt

    http://bbses.info/_files/tmpdecker.html

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Psi-Jack on Sun Jul 28 12:49:01 2019
    Re: BBSes and computers
    By: Psi-Jack to Nightfox on Sun Jul 28 2019 05:42 am

    hey your bbs ad didnt work out so well. maybe use straight ascii

    I actually specifically went through my ANSI BBS Ad too, to make sure it stopped at character 79 instead of 80 so it wouldn't break and wrap. I've been seeing them perfectly, while I've seen others...... Turn out really bad, which is why I tested mine first, viewed it in a non-echoed message base, before I deployed it out. Which I'm doing completely by manually-run script, not automated, because, why automate something you want people to see? :D

    http://bbses.info/_files/tmpdecker.html

    looks like it's mangled.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Psi-Jack on Sun Jul 28 11:00:17 2019
    Re: BBSes and computers
    By: Psi-Jack to Dumas Walker on Sun Jul 28 2019 05:50 am

    At first I thought it was just me or my system, but I saw his ads in
    multiple echos and they did not display well. All the other ANSI ads
    in the echos in question displayed fine, which made me assume it
    isn't just me (and MRO).

    Hmmm.. Well, I know in Synchronet, at least with DDMsgReader, they view fine. I believe they work well as well with the standard Synchronet reader also and from what I could tell they also viewed fine on Mystic BBSes.

    Displaying ANSI in messages seems fairly tricky to do (for me, at least). My reader doesn't display all ANSI messages very well.. I had my reader convert basic ANSI sequences (color & attributes) to Synchronet attribute codes when displaying a message with ANSI, but it doesn't fully parse and handle all ANSI sequences (such as animation, etc.). If there's over a certain percentage of ANSI in a message, my reader will use the scrollbar.js to display the message instead of its own scrolling handler, since scrollbar.js seems to be able to parse ANSI a little better.

    I probably would have had my message reader use scrollbar.js from the beginning if I knew it existed.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Sun Jul 28 14:51:54 2019
    Re: BBSes and computers
    By: Nightfox to Psi-Jack on Sun Jul 28 2019 11:00 am

    Displaying ANSI in messages seems fairly tricky to do (for me, at least).
    My reader doesn't display all ANSI messages very well.. I had my reader convert basic ANSI sequences (color & attributes) to Synchronet attribute codes when displaying a message with ANSI, but it doesn't fully parse and handle all ANSI sequences (such as animation, etc.). If there's over a


    doing ansi ads over msg networks is tricky business and probably something you shouldnt do if you care about it displaying correctly.

    i went on vert with syncterm and mt32 and confirmed his ad didnt show up correctly.

    on your bbs it shows up correctly. i think it's because of your msg reader. after seeing the ad i'm not suprised it's not showing up correctly. it's pushing it with the number of characters, colors and width.

    btw, would be nice if your reader had a jump function to go to a certain msg number.

    and you have this error when i login as guest.

    Logging on to Digital Distortion as Guest ...
    !JavaScript D:\BBS\sbbs\mods\logon.js line 51: ReferenceError: DDCaptchaGenerat
    or is not defined

    [ Press a key ]

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Sun Jul 28 15:25:51 2019
    Re: BBSes and computers
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Sun Jul 28 2019 02:51 pm

    btw, would be nice if your reader had a jump function to go to a certain msg number.

    It does. When reading messages, you can start typing a message number and jump to that message. You can also do that in the message list.

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to PSI-JACK on Sun Jul 28 19:17:00 2019
    What offline message reader are you using? (and is it Windows based? Curious because I'd have to try it out with wine if it is).

    SLMR (old DOS) and also Multimail.

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