• David Bowie passed away

    From Nightfox@VERT to All on Mon Jan 11 07:59:32 2016
    I just read that David Bowie has died of cancer. I was just listening to some of his music the other day.. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/david-bowie-dead-legendary-artist-854364

    Nightfox

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  • From Tejiv@VERT to Nightfox on Mon Jan 11 12:27:18 2016
    Re: David Bowie passed away
    By: Nightfox to All on Mon Jan 11 2016 07:59 am

    very sad

    /s
    > I just read that David Bowie has died of cancer. I was just listening to so > of his music the other day..
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/david-bowie-dead-legendary-artist-8543

    Nightfox


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  • From metalhead@VERT to Nightfox on Wed Jan 13 20:22:00 2016
    I just read that David Bowie has died of cancer. I was just listening
    to some of his music the other day..

    I was disappointed to hear about Lemmy from Motorhead; he found out he had cancer, he was told he had 2 to 6 months to live, but then he died 2 days later. That sucks!

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  • From Mro@VERT to metalhead on Wed Jan 13 22:57:13 2016
    Re: Re: David Bowie passed away
    By: metalhead to Nightfox on Wed Jan 13 2016 08:22 pm

    I just read that David Bowie has died of cancer. I was just listening to some of his music the other day..

    I was disappointed to hear about Lemmy from Motorhead; he found out he had cancer, he was told he had 2 to 6 months to live, but then he died 2 days later. That sucks!



    well he had a very aggressive form of cancer.
    it's best to go as quick as possible with cancer.

    cancer is a bitch but it's a fact of life. we all have cancers in our bodies right now.

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  • From Timesoarer@VERT to Mro on Fri Jan 15 22:24:24 2016
    Re: Re: David Bowie passed away
    By: Mro to metalhead on Wed Jan 13 2016 10:57 pm

    well he had a very aggressive form of cancer.
    it's best to go as quick as possible with cancer.
    One of my best friend a fishing partner. Found out he had cancer they gave him 6 months
    didn't make it a month. He was 40 I held the hand of another friend back in may, he was 49. my wifes
    mom at 65. my 2 grandpa's How correct that statement is you can only hope they help speed the process.

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  • From metalhead@VERT to Timesoarer on Sat Jan 16 01:30:00 2016
    One of my best friend a fishing partner. Found out he had cancer

    Can someone please tell me...


    How do people feel when they have cancer? Like, my stomach hurts, could it be cancer? Or like if your skin develops a black spot, it can be cancer?

    People with cancer.. Are they all suffering horrible pain constantly? I just wonder what it's like, so I can recognize it if it happens to me.

    My grandmother died of it, but it took away her voice before she could talk
    to me about it.

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  • From Dreamer@VERT to metalhead on Sat Jan 16 09:48:26 2016
    On 1/15/2016 7:30 PM, metalhead wrote:
    Ti> One of my best friend a fishing partner. Found out he had cancer

    Can someone please tell me...


    How do people feel when they have cancer? Like, my stomach hurts, could it be cancer? Or like if your skin develops a black spot, it can be cancer?

    People with cancer.. Are they all suffering horrible pain constantly? I just wonder what it's like, so I can recognize it if it happens to me.

    When my father had cancer, we didn't talk directly about what he was
    going through, but my mother and I discussed some of it. My dad and I
    mostly just spent time together when he felt up to visiting.

    First, a little background: he was a workaholic, alcoholic, meatcutter.
    Most my my childhood and teen years he was a manager at the local
    supermarket, so he would work 10-12 hour days, five or six days a week.
    When he wasn't working, he was fishing or working around the house, or
    working on the car. During deer season, he worked extra hours processing
    deer in a shop he built himself next to the house. He was a bit of a
    oldschool hardcore guy; I'd walk into the shop sometimes and watch him
    cut meat, a beer nearby and a cigarette hanging out of his mouth. A true master, I guess; his work was always clean and he somehow never injured himself on the equipment. The one injury I can remember was after he was likely already sick, he nipped the end of a finger off on a saw. We had
    to make him stop working on fence that evening, even bleeding through
    his bandage he kept swinging that arm.

    That right arm - actually, his shoulder - had been causing him more and
    more pain. The doctor thought it was arthritis of some sort, since he
    spent nearly every weekend since childhood fishing. He even took my mom fishing on their honeymoon, and when we were younger my brother and I
    were dragged along every weekend until we were sick of it. Soon as I was
    old enough to stay home, I refused to fish for five years straight I
    hated it so much (I've since mellowed.) Throw in all the household
    repairs, construction projects, side work, arthritis seemed a natural
    fit, and we didn't think anything of it.

    The doctor prescribed over the counter medicine. Then something
    stronger. Next came an x-ray, which did not reveal anything abnormal. Meanwhile, his pain steadily worsened.

    Also, for many years my dad had a chronic cough. Nothing too abnormal,
    since he was a lifelong smoker. However, the last year or two it had
    been getting worse, although it was a slow progression so none of us had really paid it any mind.

    When the shoulder pain got so bad he couldn't take it anymore (and that
    was something - my father had an incredible pain tolerance), the doctor finally ordered an MRI. Turns out he had a tumor in the shoulder... in
    his lungs... in the bone of his leg... and, in the bone of his skull.
    The theory is, it possibly started in his lungs, and spread from there.
    I forget the name of the cancer, it was some complicated sounding name
    I'd never heard, but it was an aggressive form of cancer not specific to
    any part of the body.

    So, as best as I can relay how it feels, sometimes it does not feel like anything at all. Just like in the movies, it can sneak up on you slowly
    and masquerade as something else. This is why regular doctor visits are recommended, but even then a doctor can miss something. In my father's
    case, he was so used to his chronic cough, he didn't think anything of
    it. His is probably an extreme case... he pretty much lived life to the fullest, aside from his alcoholism, and had all the risk factors:
    excessive drinking, poor diet, would burn in the sun all day w/ no
    sunscreen (he'd be bright red the first week, dark brown all summer),
    and two packs a day.

    If I recall, he lasted about one year after the diagnosis. A well
    muscled guy with a pot belly, he wasted away the first six months and
    spent the last six months in a wheelchair. He never complained about
    pain to me, although you could see it in his eyes.

    Sadly, he seemed more alive that year than most of my memory of him: he
    had to give up the alcohol. So I cannot really be sure I saw pain in his bright, alert eyes. We had some nice honest conversations, though. I
    recall him confiding in me some of the things he did in the early 70's
    before my brother and I came along, such as the once or twice he tried
    cocaine and acid. He joked that he's on the GOOD stuff, now.

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  • From Mro@VERT to metalhead on Sat Jan 16 19:20:53 2016
    Re: Re: David Bowie passed away
    By: metalhead to Timesoarer on Sat Jan 16 2016 01:30 am

    How do people feel when they have cancer? Like, my stomach hurts, could it be cancer? Or like if your skin develops a black spot, it can be cancer?

    People with cancer.. Are they all suffering horrible pain constantly? I
    just wonder what it's like, so I can recognize it if it happens to me.

    My grandmother died of it, but it took away her voice before she could talk to me about it.



    it depends on the part of the body it affects. usually when people have cancer they feel very tired and have other issues.

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  • From metalhead@VERT to Dreamer on Sun Jan 17 14:23:00 2016
    I'm sorry that you lost your father to cancer. It's such a mysterious
    disease, to me, because I don't really recall anyone ever talking about the pain, but some people have lived to tell me about the pain of after-cancer surgery, which can be really uncomfortable depending on which part of the
    body it was.

    I guess I will hope for the best, and if doctors don't want to screen me for stuff, I will try different doctors. I'm thinking that my attitude should be that I'm gonna get it, but I'm gonna catch it early, and I'm gonna survive it.

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  • From metalhead@VERT to Mro on Sun Jan 17 14:26:00 2016
    it depends on the part of the body it affects. usually when people have cancer they feel very tired and have other issues.

    I've seen it that way too, where they get a whole bunch of problems all at once, and then they die. My grandmother had blood clots, 2 legs amputated, gangrene, colon cancer, and high levels of toxic medicine. And I'm just like fuck! I don't want to end up that way too!

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  • From Mro@VERT to metalhead on Sun Jan 17 23:19:21 2016
    Re: Re: David Bowie passed away
    By: metalhead to Dreamer on Sun Jan 17 2016 02:23 pm

    I'm sorry that you lost your father to cancer. It's such a mysterious disease, to me, because I don't really recall anyone ever talking about the pain, but some people have lived to tell me about the pain of after-cancer surgery, which can be really uncomfortable depending on which part of the


    hell yeah there can be pain. they can give your morphine and it wont do a damn thing.

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