1. Forum
  2. DOVE-Net
  3. Entertainment

  • Episode 18: FBiPhone hack

    From Nightfox@VERT to Digital Man on Tue Mar 1 21:26:00 2016
    Re: Episode 18: FBiPhone hack
    By: Digital Man to TechDorks on Tue Mar 01 2016 03:52:57

    More from your friendly Dorks o' Tech: http://mp3.techdorks.net/episodes/techdorks-2016-03-01-ep18.mp3

    Interesting discussion of the Apple vs. FBI issue. I suppose it makes sense that the government probably can legally get a warrant and have Apple do what they want.. Seems to me like, as others have said, it could set a dangerous precident for privacy though.

    Also regarding the Lego Stratocaster - I've seen a lot of debate about how the guitar's material can affect the sound.. For an electric guitar, I've always thought the type of wood shouldn't make much difference (and I've had a hard time telling the difference), but I suppose I'm not surprised that one made from legos might not sound as good as one made from wood.

    Not too long ago, I saw this video about a Stratocaster made with cardboard (and made by Fender):
    https://youtu.be/7Oo2H-W7d6A

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Di
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Wed Mar 2 11:40:04 2016
    Re: Episode 18: FBiPhone hack
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Tue Mar 01 2016 09:26 pm

    Re: Episode 18: FBiPhone hack
    By: Digital Man to TechDorks on Tue Mar 01 2016 03:52:57

    More from your friendly Dorks o' Tech: http://mp3.techdorks.net/episodes/techdorks-2016-03-01-ep18.mp3

    Interesting discussion of the Apple vs. FBI issue. I suppose it makes sense that the government probably can legally get a warrant and have Apple do what they want.. Seems to me like, as others have said, it could set a dangerous precident for privacy though.

    But Deuce's point, and I think I agree: with a warrant, the government can invade any kind of privacy you enjoy. Why would encrypted data on a cellphone be any different? If you had a boobie-trapped safe, I'm pretty sure the government could get a warrant to defeat the boobie-trap and get inside to see what's there. Very similar to a locked iPhone.

    Also regarding the Lego Stratocaster - I've seen a lot of debate about how the guitar's material can affect the sound.. For an electric guitar, I've always thought the type of wood shouldn't make much difference (and I've had a hard time telling the difference), but I suppose I'm not surprised that one made from legos might not sound as good as one made from wood.

    Well, to be fair, the video I saw of the lego-strat wasn't recorded with very good audio/mics, so it might sound better than portrayed on the video (and hey, it's not a strat after-all): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU7Rw6QNHJM

    But the pickups on a guitar pick up the resonating wood (along with the strings) and the strings resonate differently depending on the wood they're suspended over (especially the neck since that's the majority of the surface the strings are suspended over). Perhaps it's minute, but there are differences. I definitely can hear the difference between a Les Paul, a Stratocaster, Telecaster, and a hollow-body Gibson. How much of that is the type of wood, the style/design, or the electronics, I don't know.

    Not too long ago, I saw this video about a Stratocaster made with cardboard (and made by Fender):
    https://youtu.be/7Oo2H-W7d6A

    Impressive! Don't get it wet though!

    Glad to know someone's listening still! :-)

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #66:
    SEXYZ is as a 32-bit replacement for [F]DSZ, CE-XYZ and other protocol drivers. Norco, CA WX: 72.7øF, 39.0% humidity, 3 mph SE wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From Nightfox@VERT to Digital Man on Wed Mar 2 18:39:35 2016
    Re: Episode 18: FBiPhone hack
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Mar 02 2016 11:40:04

    Interesting discussion of the Apple vs. FBI issue. I suppose it makes
    sense that the government probably can legally get a warrant and have
    Apple do what they want.. Seems to me like, as others have said, it
    could set a dangerous precident for privacy though.

    But Deuce's point, and I think I agree: with a warrant, the government can invade any kind of privacy you enjoy. Why would encrypted data on a cellphone be any different? If you had a boobie-trapped safe, I'm pretty sure the government could get a warrant to defeat the boobie-trap and get inside to see what's there. Very similar to a locked iPhone.

    Yeah, that make sense.. I suppose encrypted data on a cell phone isn't that much different from anything else that's locked.

    Well, to be fair, the video I saw of the lego-strat wasn't recorded with very good audio/mics, so it might sound better than portrayed on the video (and hey, it's not a strat after-all): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU7Rw6QNHJM

    That's cool.. It actually sounds a bit better than I would have expected for a lego guitar.

    But the pickups on a guitar pick up the resonating wood (along with the strings) and the strings resonate differently depending on the wood they're suspended over (especially the neck since that's the majority of the surface the strings are suspended over). Perhaps it's minute, but there are differences. I definitely can hear the difference between a Les Paul, a Stratocaster, Telecaster, and a hollow-body Gibson. How much of that is the type of wood, the style/design, or the electronics, I don't know.

    Yeah, I'm sure the body & neck material affect the resonance. Seems to me that the electronics have a significant effect on the sound though. I've done some tinkering with electric guitars, swapping out pickups & stuff, and different pickups and electronics can make quite a noticeable difference in the sound.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
  • From Nightfox@VERT to Digital Man on Wed Mar 2 19:11:31 2016
    Re: Episode 18: FBiPhone hack
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Mar 02 2016 11:40:04

    Glad to know someone's listening still! :-)

    I always look forward to the next TechDorks episode. :)

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distorti
  • From Deuce@VERT to Digital Man on Thu Mar 3 00:41:04 2016
    Re: Episode 18: FBiPhone hack
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Mar 02 2016 11:40 am

    But Deuce's point, and I think I agree: with a warrant, the government can invade any kind of privacy you enjoy. Why would encrypted data on a cellphone be any different? If you had a boobie-trapped safe, I'm pretty sure the government could get a warrant to defeat the boobie-trap and get inside to see what's there. Very similar to a locked iPhone.

    Sure, the question is if they could make SuperSafes Inc. send someone to personally disable the booby trap, or if they could only request the existing information on how to do it themselves.

    What if they guy at SuperSafes quit instead of disabling the booby trap, would the government then force him to go back to work?

    The difference is between getting access to existing information vs. forcing a company not involved in the crime in any way to do something they don't want to and aren't in the business of doing.

    The ability of the courts to compel anyone to do anything is a bit too much power in my opinion.

    ---
    http://DuckDuckGo.com/ a better search engine that respects your privacy.
    Mro is an idiot. Please ignore him, we keep hoping he'll go away.
    þ Synchronet þ My Brand-New BBS
  • From Mickey@VERT to Nightfox on Thu Mar 3 08:58:04 2016

    OK ok, what am I reading here? Let me try and understand.
    Someone here has a Stratocaster made from LEGO, and it doesn't sound right?

    SynchroNET 3.15
    Oxford Mills Remote > oxfordmi.synchro.net:23
    === === ===
    FidoNET 1:249/307 * MusicalNET * DoveNET

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Oxford Mills Remote - manning.webhop.net
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Mickey on Thu Mar 3 18:10:48 2016
    Re: Episode 18: FBiPhone hack
    By: Mickey to Nightfox on Thu Mar 03 2016 08:58 am

    OK ok, what am I reading here? Let me try and understand.
    Someone here has a Stratocaster made from LEGO, and it doesn't sound right?

    Someone on youtube, yeah. The first one I saw actually wasn't a Stratocaster. I mean, neither is the Lego-one really, but it kind of looks like a Stratocaster. ... made from legos. :-)

    digital man

    Synchronet "Real Fact" #28:
    Rob Swindell first called BBSes (at 300bps) with an Apple II computer in 1982. Norco, CA WX: 63.5øF, 70.0% humidity, 4 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Vertrauen þ Home of Synchronet þ telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From Mro@VERT to Mickey on Sat Mar 5 00:40:01 2016
    Re: Episode 18: FBiPhone hack
    By: Mickey to Nightfox on Thu Mar 03 2016 08:58 am


    OK ok, what am I reading here? Let me try and understand.
    Someone here has a Stratocaster made from LEGO, and it doesn't sound right?


    dont leave it on the floor because if you step on it barefoot you will have a bad time.

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Mickey@VERT to Mro on Sat Mar 5 13:57:04 2016

    By: Mickey to Nightfox on Thu Mar 03 2016 08:58 am

    OK ok, what am I reading here? Let me try and understand.
    Someone here has a Stratocaster made from LEGO, and it doesn't sound
    right?

    dont leave it on the floor because if you step on it barefoot you will have a bad time.

    At the very least, you would probably break your Lego E string.

    :-)

    Mickey

    SynchroNET 3.15
    Oxford Mills Remote > oxfordmi.synchro.net:23
    === === ===
    FidoNET 1:249/307 * MusicalNET * DoveNET

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Oxford Mills Remote - manning.webhop.net