• Weather Stuff

    From metalhead@VERT to Daryl Stout on Wed Jul 13 23:36:00 2016
    I do NOT take any chances with weather...no matter if it's severe

    Where do you live?

    I live in upstate NY, and even though I'm a paranoid nut, I have no fear of weather conditions. We have very few tornadoes, and the flood zones here are very obvious, and avoidable.

    Knowing the temperature in the winter is handy, but other than that, I could live without the weather forecast.

    The only environmental issue that scares me is bears. Any time I find myself walking around in the dark in a rural area, I'm "prepared" to be eaten.

    on the phone during a thunderstorm). He survived, but would never be
    on the phone during a thunderstorm again.

    How do you feel about using a cordless phone during a thunderstorm? Someone tried warning me about that a few times, but could that really be a risk?

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT to metalhead on Thu Jul 14 10:48:00 2016
    I do NOT take any chances with weather...no matter if it's severe

    Where do you live?

    Little Rock, Arkansas. We are in the eastern part of "Tornado Alley",
    and in the western part of "Dixie Alley". So, we have 2 tornado corridors
    that overlap over Arkansas.

    What is worse is that most of our severe weather occurs after dark, and especially in the overnight hours, between midnight and daybreak. That's
    when most people are asleep, and likely not aware of the impending severe weather threat.

    Knowing the temperature in the winter is handy, but other than that, I could live without the weather forecast.

    The joke around here is that "if you don't like the weather, wait 5 minutes, and it'll change".

    How do you feel about using a cordless phone during a thunderstorm? Someone tried warning me about that a few times, but could that really
    be a risk?

    Cordless phones are a bit less of a risk than corded ones in a storm,
    but I don't want to be on the phone during a storm, unless it's to report severe weather. Plus, if the person on the other end is on a corded phone,
    I don't want them becoming the victim of a lightning hit.

    Around here, during bad weather (thunderstorms or winter weather), the
    first thing to crash is the cellphone networks.

    Daryl
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  • From metalhead@VERT to Daryl Stout on Thu Jul 14 18:20:00 2016
    Little Rock, Arkansas. We are in the eastern part of "Tornado Alley",

    That explains it. I don't blame you for being so concerned about the weather. For someone where I live, it would be silly though.

    What is worse is that most of our severe weather occurs after dark, and especially in the overnight hours, between midnight and daybreak. That's

    That's scary! So do most people have some loud alarm that will go off? Like a neighborhood alarm, or a personal one in their homes?

    severe weather. Plus, if the person on the other end is on a corded
    phone, I don't want them becoming the victim of a lightning hit.

    Now I get it.

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  • From Mro@VERT to metalhead on Thu Jul 14 19:04:30 2016
    Re: Weather Stuff
    By: metalhead to Daryl Stout on Thu Jul 14 2016 06:20 pm

    What is worse is that most of our severe weather occurs after dark, and especially in the overnight hours, between midnight and daybreak. That's

    That's scary! So do most people have some loud alarm that will go off? Like a neighborhood alarm, or a personal one in their homes?


    you can get a weather radio that turns on and broadcasts when there's a warning.

    i had a cool one that did all that. it started on fire when the power went out and i turned the crank to charge it.
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT to metalhead on Fri Jul 15 16:48:00 2016
    metalhead wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

    Little Rock, Arkansas. We are in the eastern part of "Tornado Alley",

    That explains it. I don't blame you for being so concerned about the weather. For someone where I live, it would be silly though.

    I would be if I lived out there too. In these parts, the big natural risk is the summer bushfires. Many areas have their natural hazards.


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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT to Daryl Stout on Fri Jul 15 08:24:33 2016
    Re: Re: Weather Stuff
    By: Daryl Stout to metalhead on Thu Jul 14 2016 10:48 am

    Cordless phones are a bit less of a risk than corded ones in a storm,
    but I don't want to be on the phone during a storm, unless it's to report severe weather. Plus, if the person on the other end is on a corded phone, I don't want them becoming the victim of a lightning hit.

    The days of there being a copper path between you and the other person are long gone. You shouldn't have to worry about a lightning hit affecting the far end. Your line goes into a heavily insulated and grounded central office, designed by the guys who wrote the book on surge protection. :)

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT to metalhead on Sat Jul 16 09:05:00 2016
    Little Rock, Arkansas. We are in the eastern part of "Tornado Alley",

    That explains it. I don't blame you for being so concerned about the weather. For someone where I live, it would be silly though.

    The region got blasted Thursday night and last night. Numerous reports of damaging winds, at least one possible tornado, and intense flooding rain.
    The Little Rock National Airport was especially hard hit, with 70 mph winds Thursday damaging the canopies at the airport terminal entrance...then last night, they got 2.28 inches of rain in an hour...with 1.72 inches of that falling in only 30 minutes!! I'm sure the airport was shut down for a time,
    or that there weren't any flights taking off or landing...likely being
    diverted to places like Memphis, Dallas/Fort Worth, Oklahoma City, or Saint Louis.

    That's scary! So do most people have some loud alarm that will go off? Like a neighborhood alarm, or a personal one in their homes?

    If they have a NOAA Weather Radio, and they have the warning alarm ON,
    and have it set up for their county and nearby counties (with the Specific
    Area Message Encoder (SAME) Technology), they can be alerted to the storms. But, many people turn it off at bedtime, even if a threat of severe storms
    is approaching. That's as bad as removing the batteries from your smoke
    alarm or carbon monoxide detector.

    severe weather. Plus, if the person on the other end is on a corded
    phone, I don't want them becoming the victim of a lightning hit.

    Now I get it.

    Folks who are struck by lightning, directly or indirectly, if they're
    not killed, usually have severe nervous system damage, and other medical issues, that they have to deal with the rest of their life. There is a
    national support group for lightning strike survivors (I forget the
    acronym for it offhand).

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT to Poindexter Fortran on Sat Jul 16 09:20:00 2016
    The days of there being a copper path between you and the other person
    are long gone. You shouldn't have to worry about a lightning hit
    affecting the far end. Your line goes into a heavily insulated and grounded central office, designed by the guys who wrote the book on
    surge protection. :)

    I still hear stories of these idiots trying to get copper from street
    lights, etc. -- and they end up getting electrocuted.

    As Forrest Gump notes "stupid is as stupid does".

    One fellow ham radio operator (I don't remember his callsign), had spared
    no expense for lightning protection. You name it, he bought it, and had it installed.

    He took a direct or very close it...his tower, mast, antenna, and coaxial cable were VAPORIZED...not a trace of them was left!! The surge protection
    UPS devices, and the equipment that was supposedly protected, all got fried.

    Daryl


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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT to Mro on Sat Jul 16 09:46:00 2016
    you can get a weather radio that turns on and broadcasts when there's a warning.

    i had a cool one that did all that. it started on fire when the power
    went out and i turned the crank to charge it.

    I've got a Midland WR-120...and it was busy the last two days with numerous severe thunderstorm warnings, flash flood warnings, and even some tornado warnings.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT to Vk3jed on Sat Jul 16 09:46:00 2016
    Tony,

    I would be if I lived out there too. In these parts, the big natural
    risk is the summer bushfires. Many areas have their natural hazards.

    I remember you talking about that with "The Church Of The Big Red Truck"... fire department duty on Sundays.

    Daryl

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  • From Mro@VERT to Daryl Stout on Sat Jul 16 18:53:29 2016
    Re: Re: Weather Stuff
    By: Daryl Stout to Poindexter Fortran on Sat Jul 16 2016 09:20 am


    He took a direct or very close it...his tower, mast, antenna, and coaxial cable were VAPORIZED...not a trace of them was left!! The surge protection UPS devices, and the equipment that was supposedly protected, all got
    fried.


    yes, surge protectors are bullshit.
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  • From Mro@VERT to Daryl Stout on Sat Jul 16 18:57:02 2016
    Re: Re: Weather Stuff
    By: Daryl Stout to Mro on Sat Jul 16 2016 09:46 am

    you can get a weather radio that turns on and broadcasts when there's
    a warning.

    i had a cool one that did all that. it started on fire when the power went out and i turned the crank to charge it.

    I've got a Midland WR-120...and it was busy the last two days with numerous severe thunderstorm warnings, flash flood warnings, and even some tornado warnings.


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    this is the one i have. maybe it thought it was doing me a favor by creating
    an emergency fire.
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT to Daryl Stout on Sun Jul 17 08:26:00 2016
    Daryl Stout wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I remember you talking about that with "The Church Of The Big Red Truck"... fire department duty on Sundays.

    Yep, though often interrupted by track training these days. I'm doing track work this well. :)

    Daryl

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  • From metalhead@VERT to Daryl Stout on Sat Jul 16 23:43:00 2016
    If they have a NOAA Weather Radio, and they have the warning alarm ON, and have it set up for their county and nearby counties (with the
    Specific Area Message Encoder (SAME) Technology), they can be alerted to

    It might be a good idea to have one of these even for people who live in low risk areas. I'd get one if I didn't have such a huge shopping list already.

    So it seems to me like you have adapted to your environment's demands, and you're vigilant. Good job! But does the risk of losing your home to a tornado make you feel open to moving to out of tornado country?

    The environment is the reason why I moved recently; the risks of having my
    car stolen, my home broken into, or invaded, or being killed, or being in a traffic accident, are all extremely lower in the new environment I relocated
    my family to.

    Now, I have so much peace of mind that I don't know how to handle it; it's a shock to my system!

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT to Mro on Sun Jul 17 10:38:00 2016
    this is the one i have. maybe it thought it was doing me a favor by creating an emergency fire.

    There was a model of Weather Radio that was recalled last year, because
    it was a fire hazard, as the one you described.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT to metalhead on Sun Jul 17 10:42:00 2016
    So it seems to me like you have adapted to your environment's demands,
    and you're vigilant. Good job! But does the risk of losing your home to
    a tornado make you feel open to moving to out of tornado country?

    I'm originally from the Miami, Florida area. My late father's job transferred him (and us) to Little Rock, Arkansas 39 years ago.

    He passed away in February, 2007 -- my grandmother-in-law died the previous September, my wife died 2 1/2 months after my Dad died, my best man died
    a year after my grandmother-in-law died, and my brother was nearly killed in
    a freak motorcycle wreck not 3 months after my wife died.

    Tornadoes are indiscriminate...they don't care what their next target is.

    Now, I have so much peace of mind that I don't know how to handle it;
    it's a shock to my system!

    You're lucky in that regard.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT to Mro on Sun Jul 17 10:51:00 2016
    He took a direct or very close it...his tower, mast, antenna, and coaxial cable were VAPORIZED...not a trace of them was left!! The surge protection UPS devices, and the equipment that was supposedly protected, all got
    fried.


    yes, surge protectors are bullshit.
    i've had a tv blow out and a computer get fried that were on good protectors. ---

    Lightning dances around my apartment like an ungrounded Faraday cage, with strikes so close, that it shakes the entire building.

    Nine years ago, lightning hit the tree next to the apartment building, and the surge "spread out". I had some damage to the ADT alarm system (which has long since been fixed), but nothing else in my apartment was damaged, as I had previously unplugged everything. While I couldn't unplug the refrigerator/ freezer, the stove, the dishwasher, etc., they are part of the apartment, and
    I wouldn't be responsible for replacing them if they got fried. I do have renters insurance as well, which the management recommends for every resident.

    However, everyone in mine, and adjacent buildings, was carrying electronics of every sort out to the dumpster. You name it...computers, home entertainment systems, microwave ovens, TV's, DVD/VCR players, etc. -- all got zapped!!

    Daryl

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