• "Synthetic" MJ

    From metalhead@VERT to All on Thu Jul 14 00:15:00 2016
    I heard on the local news today that some people overdosed on "synthetic" marijuana.

    When they said "synthetic marijuana," I thought they were talking about
    SPICE, which is some crap that is made out of potpourri, which is a product that is banned in many states, because it is pure crap that makes people act really stupid, and it's really bad for their health..

    But the reporter was referring to something else.. Regular weed, but
    "sprayed with a chemical."

    How common is this? The thought of it makes me sick. Organic weed is pretty harmless, but for people who buy their weed illegally, you might want to
    check your sources out more, and sure you're not smoking this "sprayed" garbage, as it sounds like it's pretty harmful.

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  • From John Guillory@VERT to metalhead on Thu Jul 14 01:43:57 2016
    Re: "Synthetic" MJ
    By: metalhead to All on Thu Jul 14 2016 12:15 am

    I heard on the local news today that some people overdosed on "synthetic" marijuana.
    When they said "synthetic marijuana," I thought they were talking about SPICE, which is some crap that is made out of potpourri, which is a product that is banned in many states, because it is pure crap that makes people act really stupid, and it's really bad for their health..
    But the reporter was referring to something else.. Regular weed, but "sprayed with a chemical."
    How common is this? The thought of it makes me sick. Organic weed is pretty harmless, but for people who buy their weed illegally, you might want to check your sources out more, and sure you're not smoking this "sprayed" garbage, as it sounds like it's pretty harmful.
    I'm pretty familiar with the 'spiced synthetic marijuana', never heard of this other synthetic marijuana stuff, but can say if your smoking it, and buying it illegally, then you deserve what you get. No offense, but supposedly, the whole point to why folks wanted to make marijuana legal was that it could raise tax money if done legally, then once it's passed in a few states, folks still try to get away without paying taxes on it. Further more, I've seen advertisements in a magazine in Colorado that stated prices for medical marijuana, and recreational marijuana, and get this, medical marijuana was more expensive! I'd kinda expect with a medical card stating that you had the legal right to smoke the marijuana, it'd be cheaper, but perhaps its more paperwork for them, so they figure charge more for it. I don't know, just trying to make sense out of the stuff...

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  • From metalhead@VERT to John Guillory on Thu Jul 14 18:08:00 2016
    smoking it, and buying it illegally, then you deserve what you get. No

    Many people who smoke it illegally do it for the same reasons people do it legally. The law does not always favor those who are in need of medical treatment, but I do.

    Even people who do it for fun, they don't deserve anything but the natural feelings they can get from organic marijuana.

    magazine in Colorado that stated prices for medical marijuana, and recreational marijuana, and get this, medical marijuana was more expensive! I'd kinda expect with a medical card stating that you had

    I have used marijuana illegally in NY as a teen, then legally in NM as an adult, then illegally again, back in NY now.

    The medical marijuana in NM was substantially more expensive (up to $15/gram) than the illegal marijuana in NY (less than $10/gram.)

    So now that I'm living in a place where it's so cheap, it seems like I'd benefit from the lower price, but this is not the case, because it's not the same stuff.

    Medical marijuana in NM is certified organic, and only specific strains are sold- strains that carry medicinal benefits.

    When buying cheaper, illegal weed in NY, I'm often unable to inquire about
    the strain, or whether it was grown organically or not. Many of the illegal growers in NY are producing strains which have more mind altering qualities, instead of strains which carry medicinal benefits. This problem hit me like a ton of bricks when I got here; I scrambled to find my strains all over the place, and wasted money on all kinds of totally useless (for me) strains,
    which not only didn't work for my symptoms, but made them even worse.

    So now I give up on marijuana, which is unfortunate, because I've replaced it with prescription medication which is 100% less safe than medical marijuana, but much more reliable than illegal marijuana.

    The only problem with medical marijuana is the price, but I'm confident that medicare/medicaid/your tax dollars will be paying for it in full in the near future.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT to metalhead on Fri Jul 15 16:46:00 2016
    metalhead wrote to John Guillory <=-

    smoking it, and buying it illegally, then you deserve what you get. No

    Many people who smoke it illegally do it for the same reasons people do
    it legally. The law does not always favor those who are in need of
    medical treatment, but I do.

    I know people who get significant benefit from smoking marijuana, it works much better than any prescription medication for these people. It's bad that these people have found what suits their brain chemistry, but are not legally allowed to use it. :(

    There's also the fact that prohibition only helps the criminal element.


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  • From metalhead@VERT to Vk3jed on Fri Jul 15 16:13:00 2016
    There's also the fact that prohibition only helps the criminal element.

    Yes, I agree completely, and this is the case is many different ways.

    I read an article recently about how "marijuana use reduces opiate use."
    There are strains for inflammation reduction, so I can see how it would help
    in that way.

    If medical marijuana were more accessible, more legal, more socially acceptable, and less stigmatized, then old people could cut down on their opiate use, and this could lead to less opiate abuse, and availability.

    I don't know if all doctors are this ridiculous, but one day I went to the ER for strep throat, and all I wanted was penicillin, which I got, but they also threw in another script for Oxycodone, like 30 pills, which I didn't even
    need, or ask for.

    So what does a monkey like me do with it? I abused them. The strep throat was gone in like 2 days.

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  • From John Guillory@VERT to Vk3jed on Fri Jul 15 23:14:42 2016
    Re: Re: "Synthetic" MJ
    By: Vk3jed to metalhead on Fri Jul 15 2016 04:46 pm

    I know people who get significant benefit from smoking marijuana, it works much better than any prescription medication for these people. It's bad that these people have found what suits their brain chemistry, but are not legally allowed to use it. :(
    But they can use it all they want with or without a prescription if they
    just move to colorado.

    There's also the fact that prohibition only helps the criminal element.
    I fail to see how laws against the use of marijuana helps the criminal
    aspect of marijuana out. Unless, perhaps you are implying that the folks who are so adicted to smoking marijuana are going to illegally buy it in states that do not allow purchasing recreational marijuana, then perhaps, but then again, perhaps that person has gotten so adicted to the marijuana that they are no longer receiving the effects of the marijuana that they used to feel from the marijuana?

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT to metalhead on Sat Jul 16 17:10:00 2016
    metalhead wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    There's also the fact that prohibition only helps the criminal element.

    Yes, I agree completely, and this is the case is many different ways.

    I read an article recently about how "marijuana use reduces opiate
    use." There are strains for inflammation reduction, so I can see how it would help in that way.

    There seems to be a lot of different strains of marijuana.

    If medical marijuana were more accessible, more legal, more socially acceptable, and less stigmatized, then old people could cut down on
    their opiate use, and this could lead to less opiate abuse, and availability.

    You have no argument from me there, this sounds quite sensible. If marijuana can do the job, why not? It would seem safer than opiates. Save the opiates for when there's no alternative.

    I don't know if all doctors are this ridiculous, but one day I went to
    the ER for strep throat, and all I wanted was penicillin, which I got,
    but they also threw in another script for Oxycodone, like 30 pills,
    which I didn't even need, or ask for.

    So what does a monkey like me do with it? I abused them. The strep
    throat was gone in like 2 days.

    That's ridiculous! What sort of a quack is he?


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT to John Guillory on Sat Jul 16 17:14:00 2016
    John Guillory wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    But they can use it all they want with or without a prescription
    if they
    just move to colorado.

    So friends I know have to get a green card? The state here has just legalised medical marijuana, but it's far more limited than in CO.

    There's also the fact that prohibition only helps the criminal element.
    I fail to see how laws against the use of marijuana helps the criminal
    aspect of marijuana out. Unless, perhaps you are implying that the folks who are so adicted to smoking marijuana are going to illegally
    buy it in states that do not allow purchasing recreational marijuana,
    then perhaps, but then again, perhaps that person has gotten so adicted
    to the marijuana that they are no longer receiving the effects of the marijuana that they used to feel from the marijuana?

    Well, the whole supply chain of marijuana is illegal in many jurisdictions, so it's open for criminals to abuse. OTOH, if marijuana production and distribution was leagalised and regulated, then there's room for legitimate suppliers to provide known, high quality product at a reasonable market price (and hopefully crowd out the criminal element).


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  • From metalhead@VERT to John Guillory on Sat Jul 16 23:26:00 2016
    I fail to see how laws against the use of marijuana helps the criminal aspect of marijuana out. Unless, perhaps you are implying that

    While marijuana is illegal, illegal growers (mexican and american) have
    illegal businesses to run.

    then perhaps, but then again, perhaps that person has gotten so adicted

    Unlike Opium-derrived drugs, such as oxycodone and heroin, marijuana is not addictive. I have never heard of a person being addicted to it.

    Personally, I used highly concentrated marijuana, known as hash, in huge
    doses, 2 to 3 times a day for 2 years straight. This past March, I quit, cold turkey, and experienced absolutely NO withdrawal symptoms.

    But I'd like to mention that many of the prescription drugs I've quit using (weaned off, not quit cold turkey) caused me nasty withdrawal symptoms, like dizziness, light headed, confusion. When I quit a drug called Effexor, I fell almost every time I had to climb stairs.

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  • From metalhead@VERT to Vk3jed on Sat Jul 16 23:32:00 2016
    That's ridiculous! What sort of a quack is he?

    It was a Nurse Practitioner. I think there's a trend in Albuquerque (probably other cities too) where opiate addicts are frequenting ERs to score prescriptions for oxycodone. But you're right, the physician shouldn't give
    in to pressure (or in my case, they shouldn't be just handing them out like goodie bags.)

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT to metalhead on Sun Jul 17 18:00:00 2016
    metalhead wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    That's ridiculous! What sort of a quack is he?

    It was a Nurse Practitioner. I think there's a trend in Albuquerque (probably other cities too) where opiate addicts are frequenting ERs to score prescriptions for oxycodone. But you're right, the physician shouldn't give in to pressure (or in my case, they shouldn't be just handing them out like goodie bags.)

    Hmm, not good at all. :(


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  • From Mro@VERT to metalhead on Sun Jul 17 10:52:26 2016
    Re: "Synthetic" MJ
    By: metalhead to John Guillory on Sat Jul 16 2016 11:26 pm

    Unlike Opium-derrived drugs, such as oxycodone and heroin, marijuana is not addictive. I have never heard of a person being addicted to it.

    Personally, I used highly concentrated marijuana, known as hash, in huge doses, 2 to 3 times a day for 2 years straight. This past March, I quit, cold turkey, and experienced absolutely NO withdrawal symptoms.



    i have seen people addicted to it. they talk about it all day long and spend all their money on it. when they dont take it, they feel like shit and they are unhappy. if that's not addiction i dont know what is.
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  • From Tiny@VERT to metalhead on Sun Jul 17 18:25:31 2016
    Unlike Opium-derrived drugs, such as oxycodone and heroin, marijuana is not addictive. I have never heard of a person being addicted to it.

    I'm not anti marijuanna, I want to start by saying that. However I for a fact know one person who is addicted to it. He can't go a single day without smoke a pile of it. To the point that I keep some in my freezer and when
    he's really bad I bring him a 1/4 ounce. If that's not addicted what is?

    Shawn

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  • From metalhead@VERT to Mro on Sun Jul 17 23:32:00 2016
    i have seen people addicted to it. they talk about it all day long and spend all their money on it. when they dont take it, they feel like

    Are you sure their not just faggots like the vape crew? I mean, people who
    just have nothing better to than to just blow bongs like they're cocks? And when they don't have these THC based cocks to consume, they act like they're unhappy?

    LOL

    But seriously, are they getting ready to rob people for weed money? Do their faces look like they've been scratching? Most young people that I encounter have really shitty social skills, way worse than me. Maybe they just don't
    know what to do without weed, because it's such a huge part of their american culture?

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  • From metalhead@VERT to Tiny on Sun Jul 17 23:51:00 2016
    freezer and when he's really bad I bring him a 1/4 ounce. If that's
    not addicted what is?

    I have a friend of mine who claimed to be addicted to marijuana, and he went
    to rehab and all that, but I still don't believe it..

    I have an addictive personality; I get addicted to stuff easily, like
    nicotine, alcohol, sex, Mystic BBS software, Wordpress, etc..

    I was a heavy marijuana user, on and off, for most of my life..

    Here are some of the known symptoms of heroin withdrawl:

    Abdominal pains, cold sweats, chills, diarrhea, dialated pupils..

    My point is, do you see marijuana users with these symptoms?

    What if they use it illegally? What will happen if they can't score a bag?
    Will they murder some hotel guest just to get at their wallet?

    No freakin way dude... They will zone out to some shit on Netflix and pass out.

    When you're in love with marijuana, you are really disappointed when you
    can't get it, and normal, every day things are less fun without it.

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  • From Mro@VERT to metalhead on Mon Jul 18 16:21:52 2016
    Re: "Synthetic" MJ
    By: metalhead to Mro on Sun Jul 17 2016 11:32 pm

    i have seen people addicted to it. they talk about it all day long
    and spend all their money on it. when they dont take it, they feel like

    Are you sure their not just faggots like the vape crew? I mean, people who just have nothing better to than to just blow bongs like they're cocks? And when they don't have these THC based cocks to consume, they act like
    they're unhappy?

    LOL


    well they are certainly addicted to it and some of the people i knew stole money to buy it.
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  • From Mro@VERT to metalhead on Mon Jul 18 16:23:50 2016
    Re: "Synthetic" MJ
    By: metalhead to Tiny on Sun Jul 17 2016 11:51 pm

    I have an addictive personality; I get addicted to stuff easily, like nicotine, alcohol, sex, Mystic BBS software, Wordpress, etc..


    most men have addictive personalities, though.

    Here are some of the known symptoms of heroin withdrawl:

    Abdominal pains, cold sweats, chills, diarrhea, dialated pupils..

    My point is, do you see marijuana users with these symptoms?



    i have seen them with difficulty functioning and irritability.

    you wont die from going through pot withdrawl like you can with alcohol or other drugs, but its addictive in some cases.
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  • From thumper@VERT to Mro on Tue Jul 19 09:28:00 2016
    Mro wrote to metalhead <=-



    I have an addictive personality; I get addicted to stuff easily, like nicotine, alcohol, sex, Mystic BBS software, Wordpress, etc..


    most men have addictive personalities, though.

    Here are some of the known symptoms of heroin withdrawl:

    Abdominal pains, cold sweats, chills, diarrhea, dialated pupils..

    My point is, do you see marijuana users with these symptoms?



    i have seen them with difficulty functioning and irritability.

    you wont die from going through pot withdrawl like you can with alcohol
    or other drugs, but its addictive in some cases.

    I have known people that couldn't function without being high. Turn into asses when out. Never understood it as even when I was a regular pothead either I had it or I didn't. No big deal.....


    or I didn't

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  • From metalhead@VERT to Mro on Sat Jul 23 22:54:00 2016
    you wont die from going through pot withdrawl like you can with alcohol
    or other drugs, but its addictive in some cases.

    I'm sorry, I am too quick to judge people at times. I'm no expert. Stuff affects different people in different ways.

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  • From Deavmi@VERT to metalhead on Fri Nov 18 23:04:10 2016
    On 2016-07-18 01:51 AM, metalhead wrote:
    freezer and when he's really bad I bring him a 1/4 ounce. If that's not addicted what is?

    I have a friend of mine who claimed to be addicted to marijuana, and he went to rehab and all that, but I still don't believe it..

    I have an addictive personality; I get addicted to stuff easily, like nicotine, alcohol, sex, Mystic BBS software, Wordpress, etc..

    I was a heavy marijuana user, on and off, for most of my life..

    Here are some of the known symptoms of heroin withdrawl:

    Abdominal pains, cold sweats, chills, diarrhea, dialated pupils..

    My point is, do you see marijuana users with these symptoms?

    What if they use it illegally? What will happen if they can't score a bag? Will they murder some hotel guest just to get at their wallet?

    No freakin way dude... They will zone out to some shit on Netflix and pass out.

    When you're in love with marijuana, you are really disappointed when you can't get it, and normal, every day things are less fun without it.

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  • From Deavmi@VERT to metalhead on Fri Nov 18 23:05:00 2016
    On 2016-07-18 01:51 AM, metalhead wrote:
    freezer and when he's really bad I bring him a 1/4 ounce. If that's not addicted what is?

    I have a friend of mine who claimed to be addicted to marijuana, and he went to rehab and all that, but I still don't believe it..

    I have an addictive personality; I get addicted to stuff easily, like nicotine, alcohol, sex, Mystic BBS software, Wordpress, etc..

    I was a heavy marijuana user, on and off, for most of my life..

    Here are some of the known symptoms of heroin withdrawl:

    Abdominal pains, cold sweats, chills, diarrhea, dialated pupils..

    My point is, do you see marijuana users with these symptoms?

    What if they use it illegally? What will happen if they can't score a bag? Will they murder some hotel guest just to get at their wallet?

    No freakin way dude... They will zone out to some shit on Netflix and pass out.

    When you're in love with marijuana, you are really disappointed when you can't get it, and normal, every day things are less fun without it.

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    "When you're in love with marijuana, you are really disappointed when you
    can't get it, and normal, every day things are less fun without it."

    Moral of the day "That's why you don't start with drugs in the first place".

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