I had some thoughts on how to grow the BBS community. After reading thousands of net messages, I came to terms that most of the usersWe have to keep things simple so we can get the users from Facebook and
are sysops. And then I read a glowing post by a regular user (who quickly announced that he wasn't a sysop) who was excited to be a part
of things. It reminded me that if we toned down all the "sysop presence" and made it more about the regular users, that people would
begin to feel more comfortable. I'm suggesting that maybe since 90%+ of the people here are sysops that it might be slightly
intimidating to the folks who are 1) not technical and 2) not involved in the operation of BBSes themselves. Though I've taken no formal
survey or anything...
Matthew Munson mumbled to KNIGHT.. <=-
We have to keep things simple so we can get the users from Facebook and Twitter who are fed up of the censorship.
Matthew Munson mumbled to KNIGHT.. <=-
We have to keep things simple so we can get the users from Facebook
and Twitter who are fed up of the censorship.
Censorship? am I missing something? I'm a pretty avid user of both platforms and I haven't seen anything that resembles "censorship".
Mro mumbled to DaiTengu.. <=-
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Re: Re: Telemate in DOSbox
By: DaiTengu to Matthew Munson on Mon Aug 08 2016 02:21 am
Matthew Munson mumbled to KNIGHT.. <=-
We have to keep things simple so we can get the users from Facebook
and Twitter who are fed up of the censorship.
Censorship? am I missing something? I'm a pretty avid user of both platforms and I haven't seen anything that resembles "censorship".
really? facebook is going nuts with censorship and twitter has been stepping it up for the past six months.
facebook has censored everything from what names we use on their site
to what we post privately and publically to friends.
twitter used to let people do pretty much whatever they want but some celebs went public with people trolling them.
really? facebook is going nuts with censorship and twitter has been stepping up for the past six months.It's their company,and are free to do as they please. Facebook is also a FREE service,and doesn't force anyone to use them. If you're not happy,go elsewhere. I've never had any issues withe censorship btw.
facebook has censored everything from what names we use on their site to wha we post privately and publically to friends.
twitter used to let people do pretty much whatever they want but some celebs went public with people trolling them.
twitter used to let people do pretty much whatever they want but some celebs went public with people trolling them.The Ghostbusters reboot star ended up getting Milo perma- banned
Quoting Mro to Daitengu <=-
facebook has censored everything from what names we use on their site
to what we post privately and publically to friends.
The Ghostbusters reboot star ended up getting Milo perma- banned
It's their company,and are free to do as they please. Facebook is also a FREE service,and doesn't force anyone to use them. If you're not happy,go elsewhere.
I know I've been "suspended" in the past and I hadn't done anything.
I listened to "Into the Plex", by Steven Levy, an audiobook about the start of Google, and they flaunted the lack of customer service as a feature.
I hate google almost as much as facebook.
Quoting Poindexter Fortran to Tiny <=-
not paying for it, you're not the customer, you're the product.
not paying for it, you're not the customer, you're the product.
Been saying that for years now about facebook and google. I just turn
a blind eye to this stuff now because let's be honest, do I really believe if I shut down my FB and stop using all google products that they will stop getting my information?
There is no privacy anymore either online or offline. I have accepted it and I'm a much happier person now.
Been saying that for years now about facebook and google. I just turn
a blind eye to this stuff now because let's be honest, do I really believe
if I shut down my FB and stop using all google products that they will stop
getting my information?
There is no privacy anymore either online or offline. I have accepted it
and I'm a much happier person now.
We have to keep things simple so we can get the users from Facebook and Twitter who are fed up of the censorship.
Censorship? am I missing something? I'm a pretty avid user of both platforms and I haven't seen anything that resembles "censorship".
really? facebook is going nuts with censorship and twitter has been stepping it up for the past six months.
facebook has censored everything from what names we use on their site to what we post privately and publically to friends.
twitter used to let people do pretty much whatever they want but some celebs went public with people trolling them.
There's a difference between "Cencorship" and blocking out-right hate-speech.
Most of the people that have been banned for doing such things are levying actual physical
threats, or making statements that would make some of Donald Trump's
Facebook uses algorithms to display what it thinks is of interest to you when you view your feed. If you like, comment, or react to certain posts, it will show you more
posts like that.
Twitter is like a firehose, everything gets launched at you as it comes in. Facebook filters it to what it thinks you're most likely to be interested
(The amount of data facebook collects to do this filtering is what should really scare the bajeesus out of you)
wha we post privately and publically to friends.
twitter used to let people do pretty much whatever they want but some celebs went public with people trolling them.
It's their company,and are free to do as they please. Facebook is also a FREE service,and doesn't force anyone to use them. If you're not happy,go elsewhere. I've never had any issues withe censorship btw.
twitter used to let people do pretty much whatever they want but some celebs went public with people trolling them.The Ghostbusters reboot star ended up getting Milo perma- banned
Quoting Mro to Daitengu <=-
facebook has censored everything from what names we use on their site to what we post privately and publically to friends.
I know I've been "suspended" in the past and I hadn't done anything. I simply asked a specific group of my friends to un friend me. 25 people did in like 2 seconds and that triggered something and I was banned. They re enabled the account in 24ish hours and even said it was a mistake.
The Ghostbusters reboot star ended up getting Milo perma- banned
For good reason, too. It wasn't the first hateful tirade he went on, and
he crossed the line into harassment by not walking away from his tirade.
It took 3 evaluations and about a month and a half before their automated system removed the ban. I'd have been pissed if I was losing ad revenue and couldn't talk to a human.
Agreed. Nothing is free. You 'pay' for Internet? Actually you're paying for ACCESS to it. The Internet is ad driven...
yeah but what about the racist comments made by the person crying about milo's posts?
people need to lighten the fuck up. nobody died.
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Mro mumbled to DaiTengu.. <=-
There's a difference between "Cencorship" and blocking out-right hate-speech.
Most of the people that have been banned for doing such things are levying actual physical
threats, or making statements that would make some of Donald Trump's
it's not always that serious. it just has to get people to hit that report button and it's gone.
Facebook uses algorithms to display what it thinks is of interest to you when you view your feed. If you like, comment, or react to certain posts, it will show you more
posts like that.
it's fucked up.
Twitter is like a firehose, everything gets launched at you as it comes in. Facebook filters it to what it thinks you're most likely to be interested
how is it like a firehose? you follow people and then see the shit they write. it's that simple. with facebook it shows you ads and you MIGHT
see what the people and places you follow post if you are lucky.
(The amount of data facebook collects to do this filtering is what should really scare the bajeesus out of you)
they aren't getting any fucking data off of me of any use. i dont even have a real facebook account.
anything i say online is what i would say in public.
it's not always that serious. it just has to get people to hit that report button and it's gone.
That's true, I have seen a few friends get temp-banned on Facebook for posting
things that likely were reported by others. Granted, in pretty much every
case, I think they deserved it.
Oh, you'd be surprised. Any website that has a Facebook "share" or
"login" button
is tracking the crap out of you. I work in the ad-tech industry (reluctantly).
The things ad-tech can do with tracking data is insane. They know how old you are,
what your gender is, and the things you like just by tracking what
websites you
visit. That data is then shared with other companies, and other companies
share their tracking data with Facebook.
in my state they love the greenbay packers, so if you say anything bad about them or brett farve on a fox6 post you get 5000 reports
Mro mumbled to Tiny.. <=-
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Re: Re: Telemate in DOSbox
By: Tiny to MRO on Thu Aug 11 2016 07:50 am
Quoting Mro to Daitengu <=-
facebook has censored everything from what names we use on their site to what we post privately and publically to friends.
I know I've been "suspended" in the past and I hadn't done anything. I simply asked a specific group of my friends to un friend me. 25 people did in like 2 seconds and that triggered something and I was banned. They re enabled the account in 24ish hours and even said it was a mistake.
in my state they love the greenbay packers, so if you say anything bad about them or brett farve on a fox6 post you get 5000 reports
MRO wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
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Re: RE: Telemate in DOSbox
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to TINY on Fri Aug 12 2016 09:45 am
Agreed. Nothing is free. You 'pay' for Internet? Actually you're paying for ACCESS to it. The Internet is ad driven...
what do you mean by ad driven? if you are talking about who pays for
the internet that is the isps.
DAITENGU wrote to MRO <=-
Personally I don't give much of a crap at this point, if they're going
to use that
data to target me for specific ads, at least it's going to be for
stuff I like.
Maybe I'll get a new Doctor Who T-shirt, or be introduced to a new
comic book.
I'd much rather see ads like that than something for "Hot singles in
your area
want to hook up"
I mean pretty much any 'public' service you access on the Internet is ad driven or you're paying out of pocket for it.
You use Netflix? You're paying a monthly bill. You use HULU? You're either paying
a large fee and getting no ads, or you're paying a lower fee and getting some ads.
You use Spotify? You're either paying for no ads or getting it 'free' and getting
ads.
Facebook? Ads.
Pretty much anything that has content also has advertisements that fund it, and you
are 'paying' with the time you see/hear/watch the ads, just like broadcast television.
in my state they love the greenbay packers, so if you say anything bad about them or brett farve on a fox6 post you get 5000 reports
Hello fellow Wisconsinite! :D
Also, it appears you are in/around Milwaukee. Stay safe!
I mean pretty much any 'public' service you access on the Internet is ad driven or you're paying out of pocket for it.
You use Netflix? You're paying a monthly bill.
You use HULU? You're either
paying
a large fee and getting no ads, or you're paying a lower fee and getting some ads.
You use Spotify? You're either paying for no ads or getting it 'free' and getting
ads.
Facebook? Ads.
Pretty much anything that has content also has advertisements that fund it, and you
are 'paying' with the time you see/hear/watch the ads,
just like broadcast
television.
i was going to go looting tonight but they called in the national guard.
I mean pretty much any 'public' service you access on the Internet is ad driven or you're paying out of pocket for it.
I'd much rather see ads like that than something for "Hot singles in
your area want to hook up"
in my state they love the greenbay packers, so if you say
anything bad about them or brett farve on a fox6 post you get
5000 reports
I promise. If I ever get to your state I will post every single
thing about how horrible the GBP is and how Brett Farve is a poofter.
Accession wrote to Tiny <=-
earlier in a shooting) at him. It's super exciting down here! You
should visit! :)
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to MRO <=-
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Re: RE: Telemate in DOSbox
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to TINY on Fri Aug 12 2016 09:45 am
Agreed. Nothing is free. You 'pay' for Internet? Actually you're paying for ACCESS to it. The Internet is ad driven...
what do you mean by ad driven? if you are talking about who pays for
the internet that is the isps.
I mean pretty much any 'public' service you access on the Internet is
ad driven or you're paying out of pocket for it.
You use Netflix? You're paying a monthly bill. You use HULU? You're
either paying
a large fee and getting no ads, or you're paying a lower fee and
getting some ads.
You use Spotify? You're either paying for no ads or getting it 'free'
and getting
ads.
Facebook? Ads.
Pretty much anything that has content also has advertisements that fund it, and you
are 'paying' with the time you see/hear/watch the ads, just like
broadcast television.
BBSING.BBS wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
I can't stand it much more. Adds everything is just about adds, medical adds, attorney adds, buy a car adds, all the time adds. Its disgusting. Just once I would love to see someone run some commercial (without the commerce) how to fix your headache without a pill, or something like
that benefiting the target demographic that doesn't require some
service to buy.
Bottom line, there are still things that are done for the good of others from the goodness of people's hearts, but don't expect it from the
corporate bean counters and bottom liners.
JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to BBSING.BBS <=-
BBSING.BBS wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
I can't stand it much more. Adds everything is just about adds, medical adds, attorney adds, buy a car adds, all the time adds. Its disgusting. Just once I would love to see someone run some commercial (without the commerce) how to fix your headache without a pill, or something like
that benefiting the target demographic that doesn't require some
service to buy.
Don't hold your breath... Just a fact of life. I do things for free all
Bottom line, there are still things that are done for the good of
others from the goodness of people's hearts, but don't expect it from
the corporate bean counters and bottom liners.
BBSING.BBS wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
I just wish there would be a global movement headed by the global
media. Instead of pushing all the fear and bad in our face to keep solidarity out of our culture.
I listened to "Into the Plex", by Steven Levy, an audiobook about the start of Google, and they flaunted the lack of customer service as a feature.
They are one of the biggest most wealthy companies around so I guess
it is a feature. THey have figured out how to make even more money by
not having anyone to help their customers.
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