Imagine going back to the 80's and explaing to someone, even to yourself, how in 30 years computers would be EXPONENTIALLY more powerful (Processor, memory, bus speeds, storage space, modem speeds, etc). Also how there had been an African-American President for two terms and the first woman would likely win the next Presidential election. They (you) would be grateful for that, but then disappointed to hear things like how the middle east was still a mess (worse even), that the main things people used those powerful computers and internet for were to post videos of cats and argue with perfect strangers, etc. lol

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Re: Going back...
By: Misfit to All on Thu Sep 08 2016 01:46 am

Imagine going back to the 80's and explaing to someone, even to yourself, ho in 30 years computers would be EXPONENTIALLY more powerful (Processor, memor bus speeds, storage space, modem speeds, etc). Also how there had been an African-American President for two terms and the first woman would likely wi

Or that even tho these computers would have so much memory and disk and processor, and the speeds of communications were near real-time, and all we're really doing is sending emails like we're doing in the 80's over dialup.

Games and game consoles and computers are actually the same now (game systems ARE pcs), and basically nothing has changed.

Today I was just thinking about how boring my IT job is and how i dread managing yet another boring change to our company's website... It's 2016. Why are we still using computers and browsers, and concerned with WEBSITES. uggg.

When oh when will the next big thing happen so i can get excited about something again, I've had a computer since 1982...


Thanks,
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Re: Going back...
By: Zombie Mambo to Misfit on Fri Sep 09 2016 06:25 pm

Or that even tho these computers would have so much memory and disk and processor, and the speeds of communications were near real-time, and all we're really doing is sending emails like we're doing in the 80's over dialup.

Games and game consoles and computers are actually the same now (game systems ARE pcs), and basically nothing has changed.

Today I was just thinking about how boring my IT job is and how i dread managing yet another boring change to our company's website... It's 2016. Why are we still using computers and browsers, and concerned with
WEBSITES. uggg.

only thing that really gets me is how i can download shit via my cellphone in one minute that would take me hours in the dialup days.
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09 Sep 16 22:09, you wrote to Zombie Mambo:

only thing that really gets me is how i can download shit via my
cellphone in one minute that would take me hours in the dialup days.

Who'd a thought it?

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Re: Going back...
By: Mro to Zombie Mambo on Fri Sep 09 2016 10:09 pm

only thing that really gets me is how i can download shit via my cellphone i one minute that would take me hours in the dialup days.

Exactly. And sometimes you can download stuff on your phone faster than you can on the internet... I've been in spots with no wifi / ethernet and used my phone as a 4G hotspot for laptop or tablet with awesome performance.

Phones today are more powerful than our pcs of the past.

Remember the days "before" smartphones when we marvelled at GPS on a PDA?


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Re: Going back...
By: Mro to Zombie Mambo on Fri Sep 09 2016 10:09 pm

only thing that really gets me is how i can download shit via my cellph one minute that would take me hours in the dialup days.

Exactly. And sometimes you can download stuff on your phone faster than you can on the internet... I've been in spots with no wifi / ethernet
and used my phone as a 4G hotspot for laptop or tablet with awesome performance.

Phones today are more powerful than our pcs of the past.

Remember the days "before" smartphones when we marvelled at GPS on a PDA?

Today's phones are more powerful than the computers used to send rockets to
the moon.

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Re: Going back...
By: Gryphon to Zombie Mambo on Sun Sep 11 2016 06:52 pm

Today's phones are more powerful than the computers used to send rockets to the moon.

My phone is a de facto media backup for my PC. That boggles my mind.

Zombie Mambo <zombie.mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE>

Remember the days "before" smartphones when we marvelled at GPS on a PDA?

Oh yes. I had such a great time with theses devices.

Started with a Palm IIII. Still remember that I was always carrying extra
AAA Batteries all the time for it.
Then i graduated to a palm III clone, a TRGpro that was accepting compact
flash card, was identical to a Palm III in every way.

Then I finally switched to colour with the palm m130. I still own it but
the battery don't hold its charge, will have to see if I could find a new battery for it.

The one I love the most was I believed theirs coolest. ( non treo phone) is
the tugsten T3 with its collapsible screen. It's could do anything a iPod
touch second generation could do and so much more. Like running mame and emulating the Amiga 500.

Since the palm III I was already reading and buying ebook. Pre loading
website with apps like Avantgo and plucker. Was using a newsreader to get message from forum on synchronet.

Wasn't as user friendly as iOS platform or android to set all theses up but
it was really dooeable.

I'm sure pda showed the was for the smart phone we use today

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Re: Re: Going back...
By: Ennev to All on Mon Sep 12 2016 05:43 pm

Oh yes. I had such a great time with theses devices.

Started with a Palm IIII. Still remember that I was always carrying extra AAA Batteries all the time for it.
Then i graduated to a palm III clone, a TRGpro that was accepting compact flash card, was identical to a Palm III in every way.

I wanted one of those TRGPros. I had an original Pilot 5000, a III with an 8 megabyte add-on, then a Palm Vx, and still have a ton of ebooks formatted for it.

I can still hear those sync tones when I think about it.

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Started with a Palm IIII. Still remember that I was always carrying extra

I /love/ PalmOS. ;)

I'm sure pda showed the was for the smart phone we use today

Agreed. I still have the last generation Treo phone here. My carrier is shutting down the CDMA network it runs on, but it's been my backup phone for years and years. hahaha

Every time I boot it up I say "Damn this was a good device." ;)

Shawn

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Hi,

Started with a Palm IIII. Still remember that I was always carrying
extra AAA Batteries all the time for it.

My first was a Palm III. In my opinion the Palm Calendar is still
the best!

The one I love the most was I believed theirs coolest. ( non treo
phone) is the tugsten T3 with its collapsible screen. It's could do

I had a Palm Centro phone. Great phone with Palm OS.

The only bad things are the 2.5mm Earphone plug and the missing WiFi.
I guess I still have one at home.

Best regards,
Rocksteady

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Tiny <tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE> wrote:

Every time I boot it up I say "Damn this was a good device." ;)

Just sad that it went away. Web os might have been cool. But maybe building
on palm os would have worked better.

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I wanted one of those TRGPros. I had an original Pilot 5000, a III with an 8 megabyte add-on, then a Palm Vx, and still have a ton of ebooks formatted for it.

I can still hear those sync tones when I think about it.

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8 meg ! Cool

Yes that ereader format was quite good. Even barn&noble used it on theirs ereaders. Even that mobi one had. Good run outside the palm os world it's actually the base of the format used by Amazon kindle.

Ah theses tones.

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Rocksteady <rocksteady@VERT/THETUBE> wrote:

I had a Palm Centro phone. Great phone with Palm OS.

They where so sleek theses Centro. Sad they had that jack format. But it
was current back then on nokia's and other phones.

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Rocksteady <rocksteady@VERT/THETUBE>

wrote:

I had a Palm Centro phone. Great phone

with Palm OS.

They where so sleek theses Centro.

Sad they had that jack format. But it

was current back then on nokia's and

other phones.

Why are you addressing your reply to "All"
rather than the person you're replying to?

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Going back...
By: Nightfox to Ennev on Tue Sep 13 2016 09:32 pm

Sad they had that jack format. But it

was current back then on nokia's and

other phones.

Why are you addressing your reply to "All"
rather than the person you're replying to?

Nightfox

it might be because he is using nntp
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On 09/13/16, Nightfox said the following...

Rocksteady <rocksteady@VERT/THETUBE>

wrote:

I had a Palm Centro phone. Great phone

with Palm OS.

They where so sleek theses Centro.

Sad they had that jack format. But it

was current back then on nokia's and

other phones.

Why are you addressing your reply to "All"
rather than the person you're replying to?

Nightfox

Why is your message wrapping at 40 columns?

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Re: Re: Going back...
By: Ennev to Tiny on Tue Sep 13 2016 06:26 pm

Just sad that it went away. Web os might have been cool. But maybe building on palm os would have worked better.

Everything old is new again. I remember during the first dot-com boom in 1999/2000, Palm came out with the Palm VII, the wireless model that used the packet network. They couldn't do TCP/IP, so you had to download a PQA (Palm Query App) to connect through a proxy on their end.

Now, everyone's steering you away from mobile browsing and onto a dedicated phone app.

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Re: Re: Going back...
By: Ennev to All on Tue Sep 13 2016 06:26 pm

8 meg ! Cool

Yes that ereader format was quite good. Even barn&noble used it on theirs ereaders. Even that mobi one had.

And Avantgo - I'd forgotten about that -- I used to clip all of my main sites to read on the way to work.

Franklin Covey, the people who made their millions selling paper planners and a productivity/values system got into the game. They sold a Palm app, a Windows app, and binders that could hold a Palm and paper. I used one for a while, but never got the hang of the Outlook app.

That does it; I'm going on eBay to buy a Palm for old time's sake - to see what I could do in a memory footprint a fraction the size of the Facebook app on my phone. :)

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Why are you addressing your reply to "All"
rather than the person you're replying to?

Nightfox

it might be because he is using nntp

I'm pretty sure I've replied to messages in newsgroups with an nntp reader
that used the recipient's name in a reply instead of "All". I suppose it
might depend on the nntp reader..?

Nightfox

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Why is your message wrapping at 40 columns?

I was using the web interface on a small screen; I think it causes messages
to wrap at a length smaller than usual.

Nightfox

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Quoting Ennev to All <=-

Yes that ereader format was quite good. Even barn&noble used it on
theirs ereaders. Even that mobi one had. Good run outside the palm os world it's actually the base of the format used by Amazon kindle.

I used to have a script to convert PDB back to HTML then I'd convert HTML
to txt and convert that to EPUB when I switched to an epub reader. LOL

Shawn

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Re: Re: Going back...
By: Poindexter Fortran to Ennev on Wed Sep 14 2016 09:25 am

And Avantgo - I'd forgotten about that -- I used to cl

Avantgo! Just other day I was trying to remember what service I would always synch my old Cassiopeia E100/E105 with before leaving the house: Advantgo.
And then while reading emails, news, etc, thinking how nuce it would be if it could do all that cellularly. And make calls, And be a GPS. Hmm.

Still have my Cassiopeia E1xx's somewhere. Also have at least three Casio BE-300's. They were my favs for a while as they were VERY moddable.

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Re: Going back...
By: Tiny to Ennev on Wed Sep 14 2016 10:45 am

I used to have a script to convert PDB back to HTML then I'd convert HTML to txt and convert that to EPUB when I switched to an epub reader. LOL

Have you tried Calibre? I love it for converting docs to kindle format, looks like it'll handle anything you throw at it.

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Re: Re: Going back...
By: Misfit to Poindexter Fortran on Thu Sep 15 2016 02:58 am

Still have my Cassiopeia E1xx's somewhere. Also have at least three Casio BE-300's. They were my favs for a while as they were VERY moddable.

I had a soft spot for Windows CE - I had an IBM Workpad Z50, a 10 inch laptop with Windows CE 3.0 on it. Instant on, less than 3 pounds, and ActiveSync with your desktop apps.

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Re: Re: Going back...
By: Poindexter Fortran to Misfit on Thu Sep 15 2016 10:40 am

I had a soft spot for Windows CE - I had an IBM Workpa
with Windows CE 3.0 on it. Instant on, less than 3 pou
your desktop apps.

Yeah, I was a fan of WinCE also. In addition to all the PPC's, I also had an HP Jornada 720 that I really liked. Prefered the HPC form factor with keyboard over the palm held stuff actually. Still have it in storage. Had/have modem cards, wireless cards, etc for all 'em too...

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Re: Re: Going back...
By: Poindexter Fortran to Ennev on Wed Sep 14 2016 09:22 am

Now, everyone's steering you away from mobile browsing and onto a dedicated phone app.

It seems everyone wants to have their own portal to the world. We need an app thats a conglomeration of all the technologies that we use on the Internet.

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Why are you addressing your reply to "All"
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Sorry my mistake, shaky bus ride.

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I used to have a script to convert PDB back to HTML then I'd convert

HTML

to txt and convert that to EPUB when I switched to an epub reader. LOL

you know there is an open source software for that, it's called caliber ( http://calibre-ebook.com/ ) check it, it's multi-platform and can convert a
lot of different ebooks formats to any other format.

really usefull.

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Still have my Cassiopeia E1xx's somewhere. Also have at least three Casio BE-300's. They were my favs for a while as they were VERY moddable.

Not really familiar with them, I knew sony where making palmos devices and Handspring, but i didn't know about casio's cool.

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Ennev wrote to Tiny <=-

to txt and convert that to EPUB when I switched to an epub reader. LOL

you know there is an open source software for that, it's called caliber
( http://calibre-ebook.com/ ) check it, it's multi-platform and can convert a lot of different ebooks formats to any other format.

I highly recommend Calibre, it's an extremely good way to manage your ebooks.


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Re: Re: Going back...
By: Vk3jed to Ennev on Sat Sep 17 2016 09:14 am

I highly recommend Calibre, it's an extremely good way to manage your ebooks.

I have metadata OCD, it's great to be able to take an ebook or PDF on the net, tweak the book information and set a proper cover image. :)

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Poindexter Fortran wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I have metadata OCD, it's great to be able to take an ebook or PDF on
the net, tweak the book information and set a proper cover image. :)

Oh, I have too many ADHD like traits to cope with doing that! :)


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Re: Re: Going back...
By: Vk3jed to Poindexter Fortran on Sun Sep 18 2016 04:42 pm

I have metadata OCD, it's great to be able to take an ebook or PDF
on the net, tweak the book information and set a proper cover image.
:)

Oh, I have too many ADHD like traits to cope with doing that! :)

They balance out. :) I can spend time sorting through MP3s, changing the artist to lastname,firstname (my pet peeve) and setting genre and album
artwork for long periods on end.

The problem was that I had an 16GB iPhone synced to my work computer, iTunes
at home and a 64 GB card in my car. Keeping everything updated was a pain.

Now I've got an Android phone with a 128 GB card, I'm going to set up Bittorrent Sync between the car's SD card, my phone and my desktop.

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Poindexter Fortran wrote to Vk3jed <=-

They balance out. :) I can spend time sorting through MP3s, changing
the artist to lastname,firstname (my pet peeve) and setting genre and album artwork for long periods on end.

That would drive me insane. :)

The problem was that I had an 16GB iPhone synced to my work computer, iTunes at home and a 64 GB card in my car. Keeping everything updated
was a pain.

Yeah, I bet.

Now I've got an Android phone with a 128 GB card, I'm going to set up Bittorrent Sync between the car's SD card, my phone and my desktop.

Sounds nice. I did look at Bittorrent sync, but the current version requires Windows 7, and I have a couple of Vista machines that I wanted to sync. :/


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Re: Re: Going back...
By: Poindexter Fortran to Misfit on Thu Sep 15 2016 10:40 am

Re: Re: Going back...
I had a soft spot for Windows CE - I had an IBM Workpad Z50, a 10 inch laptop with Windows CE 3.0 on it. Instant on, less than 3 pounds, and ActiveSync with your desktop apps.

Those were cool, you could run NetBSD on them. I used one for a serial console for doing work with cisco devices. The battery life was great for the day & age.
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Nightfox wrote to Mro <=-

it might be because he is using nntp

I'm pretty sure I've replied to messages in newsgroups with an nntp
reader that used the recipient's name in a reply instead of "All". I suppose it might depend on the nntp reader..?

That might depend on the nntp reader then.

So far, all the ones I have tested has this "flaw"...

I tried with the Mozilla Thunderbird and also with the NewsTap
for IOS.

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GRYPHON wrote to ZOMBIE MAMBO <=-

Remember the days "before" smartphones when we marvelled at GPS on a PDA?

Yep - when we were geocaching heavy back in the day we'd download a file, process that through a third party software, then I'd use a homemade cable
to upload the waypoints to a handheld GPS.

Before that we would punch in the coordinates by hand. :-)


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ENNEV wrote to ALL <=-

Remember the days "before" smartphones when we marvelled at GPS on a PDA?

Oh yes. I had such a great time with theses devices.

Started with a Palm IIII. Still remember that I was always carrying
extra AAA Batteries all the time for it.
Then i graduated to a palm III clone, a TRGpro that was accepting
compact flash card, was identical to a Palm III in every way.

I used Palm a while too, then switched to a Sony Clie' (it would play
MP3's as well). Ah - the 'good ole days.' LOL


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Re: Re: Going back...
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to ENNEV on Sun Oct 02 2016 07:51 am

I used Palm a while too, then switched to a Sony Clie' (it would play MP3's as well). Ah - the 'good ole days.' LOL

WeirdStuff Warehouse in Sunnyvale had a handspring Visor in clear, IN THE BOX, with all accessories. I was tempted.

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On 10/03/16, Poindexter Fortran said the following...

Re: Re: Going back...
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to ENNEV on Sun Oct 02 2016 07:51 am

I used Palm a while too, then switched to a Sony Clie' (it would play MP3's as well). Ah - the 'good ole days.' LOL

WeirdStuff Warehouse in Sunnyvale had a handspring Visor in clear, IN
THE BOX, with all accessories. I was tempted.

Weirstuff Warehouse. Didn't they use to be located someplace else?

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I used Palm a while too, then switched to a Sony Clie' (it would play MP3's as well). Ah - the 'good ole days.' LOL

Clie where great. On theirs last model was amazing with the camera. Only drawback i could find then was the proprietary memory-stick card :-)

I had a co-worker that had it them and it was awesome.

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Re: Going back...
By: Gryphon to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Oct 03 2016 12:48 pm

Weirstuff Warehouse. Didn't they use to be located someplace else?

They've been in Sunnyvale, CA since at least the late 80s. WW and Halted Specialties right down the road used to get very odd surplus crap from the valley back when it was all aerospace and computer manufacturing.

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On 10/03/16, Poindexter Fortran said the following...

Re: Going back...
By: Gryphon to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Oct 03 2016 12:48 pm

Weirstuff Warehouse. Didn't they use to be located someplace else?

They've been in Sunnyvale, CA since at least the late 80s. WW and Halted Specialties right down the road used to get very odd surplus crap from
the valley back when it was all aerospace and computer manufacturing.

It's been 20 years since I've been home. I remember WSW being down the
street from the original Fry's near Lawrence Expressway on Oakmead Pkwy. I do not have any recollection of it being on W Caribbean Dr like it is now.

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