I must say I am not liking the direction that Mozilla has taken FireFox
and wherever the hell Thunderbird has gone.

For FireFox this is my reasoning:

They srated with FireFox Hello (propreitary or atleast shit intergration I could not get rid of, nonetheless it was packaged with
FireFox by default)


For Thunderbird:

Intergation of propreitary chat services. Also, why is chat part of an e-mail client anyway.



So what have I chosen for browsing and mail then? Chrome or Chromium.
Nope, SeaMonkey.


SeaMonkey is clean and has a rather nice interface that I actually like
(an old looking interface that I find rather nice; awesome icon set).

SeaMoneky is a web-browser (so FireFox is covered there), an e-mail
client and news/feed reader (Thunderbird covered there) and has chat for
IRC; therefore covering the IRC part of the Thunderbird chat intergration.


This message was typed using SeaMonkey.

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Deavmi wrote:

I must say I am not liking the direction that Mozilla has taken FireFox
and wherever the hell Thunderbird has gone.

For FireFox this is my reasoning:

They srated with FireFox Hello (propreitary or atleast shit
intergration I could not get rid of, nonetheless it was packaged with
FireFox by default)

For Thunderbird:

Intergation of propreitary chat services. Also, why is chat part of
an e-mail client anyway.

So what have I chosen for browsing and mail then? Chrome or Chromium.
Nope, SeaMonkey.

SeaMonkey is clean and has a rather nice interface that I actually like
(an old looking interface that I find rather nice; awesome icon set).

SeaMoneky is a web-browser (so FireFox is covered there), an e-mail
client and news/feed reader (Thunderbird covered there) and has chat for
IRC; therefore covering the IRC part of the Thunderbird chat intergration.

This message was typed using SeaMonkey.

test

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Deavmi wrote:

I must say I am not liking the direction that Mozilla has taken FireFox
and wherever the hell Thunderbird has gone.

For FireFox this is my reasoning:

They srated with FireFox Hello (propreitary or atleast shit
intergration I could not get rid of, nonetheless it was packaged with
FireFox by default)

For Thunderbird:

Intergation of propreitary chat services. Also, why is chat part of
an e-mail client anyway.

So what have I chosen for browsing and mail then? Chrome or Chromium.
Nope, SeaMonkey.

SeaMonkey is clean and has a rather nice interface that I actually like
(an old looking interface that I find rather nice; awesome icon set).

SeaMoneky is a web-browser (so FireFox is covered there), an e-mail
client and news/feed reader (Thunderbird covered there) and has chat for
IRC; therefore covering the IRC part of the Thunderbird chat intergration.

This message was typed using SeaMonkey.

Infact it actually makes things easier to some users i'd assume. The
icon next to a message in the message list in Thuderbird which appears
green when a mail is unread is now a junk status icon (which confused me
at first) but then at the top in the toolbar just click the "Mark"
button. This "Mark" button defaults to marking as unread but has other uses.

I am loving this browser.

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Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: Deavmi to DOVE-Net.General on Sun Dec 04 2016 17:53:32

So what have I chosen for browsing and mail then? Chrome or Chromium.
Nope, SeaMonkey.

SeaMoneky is a web-browser (so FireFox is covered there), an e-mail
client and news/feed reader (Thunderbird covered there) and has chat for IRC; therefore covering the IRC part of the Thunderbird chat intergration.

Thank you for reminding me of SeaMonkey. I looked at it in the past, but I never got into it. Now that Firefox has gotten to be a bit buggy and Chrome/Chromium has been lacking a lot of features that I need, SeaMonkey fit the bill much niceyl for me.

I agree with the fact that it does kind of have that old Netscape Communicator suite look to it (even the SeaMonkey Modern still looks like Netscape Communicator). However, it did allow me to install add ons that I need: AdBlock Pro and DownThemAll!.

Again, thanks for the recommendation! I was not happy with Chromium nor with Firefox.

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Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: Deavmi to DOVE-Net.General on Sun Dec 04 2016 05:53 pm

SeaMonkey is clean and has a rather nice interface that I actually like (an old looking interface that I find rather nice; awesome icon set).

If memory serves, it felt like an updated Netscape Communicator circa 2000.

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On 2016-12-05 09:13 AM, Poindexter Fortran wrote:

Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: Deavmi to DOVE-Net.General on Sun Dec 04 2016 05:53 pm

SeaMonkey is clean and has a rather nice interface that I actually like (an old looking interface that I find rather nice; awesome icon set).

If memory serves, it felt like an updated Netscape Communicator circa 2000.

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I have returned to FireFox on Windows. But on GNU/Linux I use Abrowser
which is a fork of FireFox which basically is fully open-source.

SeaMonkey is okay but it has some things built in I don't like, like the translation feature that is built in.

What would be better is if all these things became addons and the mail
client and IRC client (ChatZilla) became addons.

Also, I wish SeaMonkey had a fully open-source version.


I am glad I reminded you of a good alternative. Also if you need full
screen mode for SeaMonkey then there is a plugin for it. I forgot it's
name (but it's open-source) and you can ask the people on the mozilla
IRC network I think on how to get full screen mode to work for things
like YouTube.

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Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: Deavmi to DOVE-Net.General on Sun Dec 04 2016 05:53 pm

So what have I chosen for browsing and mail then? Chrome or Chromium. Nope, SeaMonkey.

SeaMonkey is clean and has a rather nice interface that I actually like (an old looking interface that I find rather nice; awesome icon set).

SeaMoneky is a web-browser (so FireFox is covered there), an e-mail client and news/feed reader (Thunderbird covered there) and has chat for IRC; therefore covering the IRC part of the Thunderbird chat intergration.

I downloaded it today, and I am pleased. Loads faster than firefox, seems to navigate very well, and I like the built in mail, irc, and other stuff. It's great for the BBS machine. Thanks for the suggestion. I might load it on my MacBook also, but really don't have any firefox issues with the mac.

SysOp: C.G. Learn, AKA: DesotoFireflite
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Valhalla II! - (GAP) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:24
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On 2016-12-05 11:15 PM, DesotoFireflite wrote:

Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: Deavmi to DOVE-Net.General on Sun Dec 04 2016 05:53 pm

So what have I chosen for browsing and mail then? Chrome or Chromium. Nope, SeaMonkey.

SeaMonkey is clean and has a rather nice interface that I actually like (an old looking interface that I find rather nice; awesome icon set).

SeaMoneky is a web-browser (so FireFox is covered there), an e-mail client and news/feed reader (Thunderbird covered there) and has chat for IRC; therefore covering the IRC part of the Thunderbird chat intergration.

I downloaded it today, and I am pleased. Loads faster than firefox, seems to navigate very well, and I like the built in mail, irc, and other stuff. It's great for the BBS machine. Thanks for the suggestion. I might load it on my MacBook also, but really don't have any firefox issues with the mac.

SysOp: C.G. Learn, AKA: DesotoFireflite
Valhalla Home Services! - (Synchronet) - bbs.valhallabbs.com
Valhalla II! - (GAP) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:24
A Gamers Paradise - Over 150 Registered Online Game Doors!

--- The truth will set you free. But first it'll piss you off.
� Synchronet � Valhalla Home Services � USA � http://valhalla.synchro.net

I can see how it's good for BBS.

You can use it for the IRC server, you can use the mail for the BBS mail
and you can also use it for the NNTP gateway to the BBS network.

Also, the web interface of the BBS.

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Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: DesotoFireflite to Deavmi on Mon Dec 05 2016 04:15 pm

I downloaded it today, and I am pleased. Loads faster than firefox, seems to navigate very well, and I like the built in mail, irc, and other stuff. It's great for the BBS machine. Thanks for the suggestion. I might load it on my MacBook also, but really don't have any firefox issues with the mac.

I'm liking it on the BBS, an older system with 32 bit XP on it. Being able to have a browser, NNTP client and email all in one is nice on a small system.

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Re: Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: Deavmi to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Dec 05 2016 02:48 pm

I have returned to FireFox on Windows. But on GNU/Linux I use Abrowser
which is a fork of FireFox which basically is fully open-source.

SeaMonkey is okay but it has some things built in I don't like, like the translation feature that is built in.

I'm running the Vivaldi browser under Ubuntu 16.04 Linux. So far I'm really lovin' it. From the creator of Opera


Gruven Reuven | Bala Cynwyd PA | Visulize Whirled Peas
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Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: Poindexter Fortran to DesotoFireflite on Tue Dec 06 2016 09:38 am

I downloaded it today, and I am pleased. Loads faster than firefox,
seems to navigate very well, and I like the built in mail, irc, and
other stuff. It's great for the BBS machine. Thanks for the
suggestion. I might load it on my MacBook also, but really don't
have any firefox issues with the mac.

I'm liking it on the BBS, an older system with 32 bit XP on it. Being able to have a browser, NNTP client and email all in one is nice on a small

Thats where I'm using it, very happy with it so far.

SysOp: C.G. Learn, AKA: DesotoFireflite
Valhalla Home Services! - (Synchronet) - bbs.valhallabbs.com
Valhalla II! - (GAP) - bbs.valhallabbs.com:24
A Gamers Paradise - Over 150 Registered Online Game Doors!

--- A true friend knows who you are... But likes you anyway.
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On 2016-12-06 07:38 PM, Poindexter Fortran wrote:

Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: DesotoFireflite to Deavmi on Mon Dec 05 2016 04:15 pm

I downloaded it today, and I am pleased. Loads faster than firefox, seems
to navigate very well, and I like the built in mail, irc, and other stuff.
It's great for the BBS machine. Thanks for the suggestion. I might load it
on my MacBook also, but really don't have any firefox issues with the mac.

I'm liking it on the BBS, an older system with 32 bit XP on it. Being able to have a browser, NNTP client and email all in one is nice on a small system.

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at.

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On 2016-12-06 07:38 PM, Poindexter Fortran wrote:

Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: DesotoFireflite to Deavmi on Mon Dec 05 2016 04:15 pm

I downloaded it today, and I am pleased. Loads faster than firefox, seems
to navigate very well, and I like the built in mail, irc, and other stuff.
It's great for the BBS machine. Thanks for the suggestion. I might load it
on my MacBook also, but really don't have any firefox issues with the mac.

I'm liking it on the BBS, an older system with 32 bit XP on it. Being able to have a browser, NNTP client and email all in one is nice on a small system.

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* True that.

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On 2016-12-07 03:46 AM, Gruven wrote:

Re: Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: Deavmi to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Dec 05 2016 02:48 pm

I have returned to FireFox on Windows. But on GNU/Linux I use Abrowser which is a fork of FireFox which basically is fully open-source.

SeaMonkey is okay but it has some things built in I don't like, like the translation feature that is built in.

I'm running the Vivaldi browser under Ubuntu 16.04 Linux. So far I'm really lovin' it. From the creator of Opera

Gruven Reuven | Bala Cynwyd PA | Visulize Whirled Peas

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Opera and Vivaldi are poes maar ek kan sien jou point of view.

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>

I'm running the Vivaldi browser under Ubuntu 16.04 Linux. So far I'm really lovin' it. From the creator of Opera

I havent read the full tread yet, will try that vivaldi.

there also another alternative midori (http://midori-browser.org/) this one is based on webkit. So kind of current being the open source engine behind chrome and safari.

Havent tried it on win xp but behave great on lubuntu

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>

I'm running the Vivaldi browser under Ubuntu 16.04 Linux. So far I'm really lovin' it. From the creator of Opera

I havent read the full tread yet, will try that vivaldi.

there also another alternative midori (http://midori-browser.org/) this

one

is based on webkit. So kind of current being the open source engine

behind

chrome and safari.

Havent tried it on win xp but behave great on lubuntu

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I use Vivaldi, its a really smooth browser. Works fine.
Opera is also nice. Thunderbird sux. i prefer The Bat !

Try this link -> http://ritlabs.com

Greetings
Goose

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Re: Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: Goose to Ennev on Thu Dec 08 2016 02:57 am

I use Vivaldi, its a really smooth browser. Works fine.
Opera is also nice. Thunderbird sux. i prefer The Bat !

Try this link -> http://ritlabs.com

I notice some spammers use the bat!.. is there some scripting support
that makes it easy for them?
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On 2016-12-07 11:14 PM, Ennev wrote:

>

I'm running the Vivaldi browser under Ubuntu 16.04 Linux. So far I'm really
lovin' it. From the creator of Opera

I havent read the full tread yet, will try that vivaldi.

there also another alternative midori (http://midori-browser.org/) this one is
based on webkit. So kind of current being the open source engine behind chrome
and safari.

Havent tried it on win xp but behave great on lubuntu

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Midori is awesome. I think it crashes more on Windows though but you
know it still works.

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On 2016-12-08 03:57 AM, Goose wrote:

>

I'm running the Vivaldi browser under Ubuntu 16.04 Linux. So far I'm really lovin' it. From the creator of Opera

I havent read the full tread yet, will try that vivaldi.

there also another alternative midori (http://midori-browser.org/) this

one

is based on webkit. So kind of current being the open source engine

behind

chrome and safari.

Havent tried it on win xp but behave great on lubuntu

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I use Vivaldi, its a really smooth browser. Works fine.
Opera is also nice. Thunderbird sux. i prefer The Bat !

Try this link -> http://ritlabs.com

Greetings
Goose

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I like Thunderbird, just not the new IM intergrations.

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Re: Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: Goose to Ennev on Thu Dec 08 2016 02:57 am

>

I'm running the Vivaldi browser under Ubuntu 16.04 Linux. So far I'm really lovin' it. From the creator of Opera

I havent read the full tread yet, will try that vivaldi.

there also another alternative midori (http://midori-browser.org/) this

one

is based on webkit. So kind of current being the open source engine

behind

chrome and safari.

Havent tried it on win xp but behave great on lubuntu

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I use Vivaldi, its a really smooth browser. Works fine.
Opera is also nice. Thunderbird sux. i prefer The Bat !

Try this link -> http://ritlabs.com

Greetings
Goose

I use Opera because I enjoy the synced, very capable start page, where I can categorize my most-used pages. When I want something quick, I use xombrero or epiphany, Links2 on occassion, and elinks or lynx frequently when I only need text. Xombrero is a very quick browser with modern rendering, though I can't recall which engine they use right now, and I tend to use it 2nd to Opera when I need a gui. I also admit to using gopher from time to time...

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On 2016-12-08 07:57 AM, tfurrows wrote:

Re: Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: Goose to Ennev on Thu Dec 08 2016 02:57 am

>

I'm running the Vivaldi browser under Ubuntu 16.04 Linux. So far I'm really lovin' it. From the creator of Opera

I havent read the full tread yet, will try that vivaldi.

there also another alternative midori (http://midori-browser.org/) this

one

is based on webkit. So kind of current being the open source engine

behind

chrome and safari.

Havent tried it on win xp but behave great on lubuntu

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� Synchronet � MtlGeek - Geeks in Montreal - http://mtlgeek.com/ -

I use Vivaldi, its a really smooth browser. Works fine.
Opera is also nice. Thunderbird sux. i prefer The Bat !

Try this link -> http://ritlabs.com

Greetings
Goose

I use Opera because I enjoy the synced, very capable start page, where I can categorize my most-used pages. When I want something quick, I use xombrero or epiphany, Links2 on occassion, and elinks or lynx frequently when I only need text. Xombrero is a very quick browser with modern rendering, though I can't recall which engine they use right now, and I tend to use it 2nd to Opera when
I need a gui. I also admit to using gopher from time to time...

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Hey. I have a Gopher site running here gopher://walkman100.ddns.net
(select Deavmi)

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Re: Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: Deavmi to tfurrows on Thu Dec 08 2016 09:13 pm

On 2016-12-08 07:57 AM, tfurrows wrote:

Re: Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: Goose to Ennev on Thu Dec 08 2016 02:57 am

>

I'm running the Vivaldi browser under Ubuntu 16.04 Linux. So far

I'm

really lovin' it. From the creator of Opera

I havent read the full tread yet, will try that vivaldi.

there also another alternative midori (http://midori-browser.org/) t

his

one

is based on webkit. So kind of current being the open source engine

behind

chrome and safari.

Havent tried it on win xp but behave great on lubuntu

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/ -

I use Vivaldi, its a really smooth browser. Works fine.
Opera is also nice. Thunderbird sux. i prefer The Bat !

Try this link -> http://ritlabs.com

Greetings
Goose

I use Opera because I enjoy the synced, very capable start page, where I c

an

categorize my most-used pages. When I want something quick, I use xombrero

or

epiphany, Links2 on occassion, and elinks or lynx frequently when I only n

eed

text. Xombrero is a very quick browser with modern rendering, though I can

't

recall which engine they use right now, and I tend to use it 2nd to Opera

when

I need a gui. I also admit to using gopher from time to time...

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Hey. I have a Gopher site running here gopher://walkman100.ddns.net
(select Deavmi)

That's possibly one of the most complete gopher holes I've visited, nice work!

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On 2016-12-09 12:07 AM, tfurrows wrote:

Re: Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: Deavmi to tfurrows on Thu Dec 08 2016 09:13 pm

On 2016-12-08 07:57 AM, tfurrows wrote:

Re: Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: Goose to Ennev on Thu Dec 08 2016 02:57 am

>

I'm running the Vivaldi browser under Ubuntu 16.04 Linux. So far

I'm

really lovin' it. From the creator of Opera

I havent read the full tread yet, will try that vivaldi.

there also another alternative midori (http://midori-browser.org/) t

his

one

is based on webkit. So kind of current being the open source engine

behind

chrome and safari.

Havent tried it on win xp but behave great on lubuntu

---
� Synchronet � MtlGeek - Geeks in Montreal - http://mtlgeek.com

/ -

I use Vivaldi, its a really smooth browser. Works fine.
Opera is also nice. Thunderbird sux. i prefer The Bat !

Try this link -> http://ritlabs.com

Greetings
Goose

I use Opera because I enjoy the synced, very capable start page, where I c

an

categorize my most-used pages. When I want something quick, I use xombrero

or

epiphany, Links2 on occassion, and elinks or lynx frequently when I only n

eed

text. Xombrero is a very quick browser with modern rendering, though I can

't

recall which engine they use right now, and I tend to use it 2nd to Opera

when

I need a gui. I also admit to using gopher from time to time...

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Hey. I have a Gopher site running here gopher://walkman100.ddns.net (select Deavmi)

That's possibly one of the most complete gopher holes I've visited, nice work!

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Why thank you. I update it regularly with new blog posts. I need to edit
it a tad bit to make it more complete as I have moved some stuff around
you know. I am however pleased with where it is currently.

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On 2016-12-09 12:07 AM, tfurrows wrote:

Re: Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: Deavmi to tfurrows on Thu Dec 08 2016 09:13 pm

On 2016-12-08 07:57 AM, tfurrows wrote:

Re: Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: Goose to Ennev on Thu Dec 08 2016 02:57 am

>

I'm running the Vivaldi browser under Ubuntu 16.04 Linux. So far

I'm

really lovin' it. From the creator of Opera

I havent read the full tread yet, will try that vivaldi.

there also another alternative midori (http://midori-browser.org/) t

his

one

is based on webkit. So kind of current being the open source engine

behind

chrome and safari.

Havent tried it on win xp but behave great on lubuntu

---
� Synchronet � MtlGeek - Geeks in Montreal - http://mtlgeek.com

/ -

I use Vivaldi, its a really smooth browser. Works fine.
Opera is also nice. Thunderbird sux. i prefer The Bat !

Try this link -> http://ritlabs.com

Greetings
Goose

I use Opera because I enjoy the synced, very capable start page, where I c

an

categorize my most-used pages. When I want something quick, I use xombrero

or

epiphany, Links2 on occassion, and elinks or lynx frequently when I only n

eed

text. Xombrero is a very quick browser with modern rendering, though I can

't

recall which engine they use right now, and I tend to use it 2nd to Opera

when

I need a gui. I also admit to using gopher from time to time...

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� Synchronet � TinFoil Hat - tojam.net

Hey. I have a Gopher site running here gopher://walkman100.ddns.net (select Deavmi)

That's possibly one of the most complete gopher holes I've visited, nice work!

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What do you use to browse the Gopherspace?

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Re: Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: Deavmi to tfurrows on Fri Dec 09 2016 04:46 pm

What do you use to browse the Gopherspace?
What do you use to browse the Gopherspace?
What do you use to browse the Gopherspace?

Sorry about the above triple-quote, learning this thing still... for gopher, it depends on your OS. In linux, I use "gopher" and "lynx" to browse the gophersphere. On DOS I use bobcat and PC Gopher (on an 8088, newer systems have better clients.) On Windows, you can use your browser sometimes (I think firefox has a plugin) or one of several gopher clients, or even a web portal. Search for "gopher client" for your platform and you'll find something. If you want, create an account on sdf.org, login, and use their system to browse gopher, and even create your own gopher site there for free.

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On 2016-12-09 07:40 PM, tfurrows wrote:

Re: Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: Deavmi to tfurrows on Fri Dec 09 2016 04:46 pm

What do you use to browse the Gopherspace?
What do you use to browse the Gopherspace?
What do you use to browse the Gopherspace?

Sorry about the above triple-quote, learning this thing still... for gopher, it
depends on your OS. In linux, I use "gopher" and "lynx" to browse the gophersphere. On DOS I use bobcat and PC Gopher (on an 8088, newer systems have
better clients.) On Windows, you can use your browser sometimes (I think firefox has a plugin) or one of several gopher clients, or even a web portal. Search for "gopher client" for your platform and you'll find something. If you
want, create an account on sdf.org, login, and use their system to browse gopher, and even create your own gopher site there for free.

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Yeah, I also use lynx. I did try Gopher (it's alright but I don't think
it does word wrapping if I am correct).

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On 2016-12-09 07:40 PM, tfurrows wrote:

Re: Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: Deavmi to tfurrows on Fri Dec 09 2016 04:46 pm

What do you use to browse the Gopherspace?
What do you use to browse the Gopherspace?
What do you use to browse the Gopherspace?

Sorry about the above triple-quote, learning this thing still... for gopher, it
depends on your OS. In linux, I use "gopher" and "lynx" to browse the gophersphere. On DOS I use bobcat and PC Gopher (on an 8088, newer systems have
better clients.) On Windows, you can use your browser sometimes (I think firefox has a plugin) or one of several gopher clients, or even a web portal. Search for "gopher client" for your platform and you'll find something. If you
want, create an account on sdf.org, login, and use their system to browse gopher, and even create your own gopher site there for free.

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Yeah, for FireFox on Windows and on my GNU/Linux machine I use OverbiteFF.

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Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: Deavmi to DOVE-Net.General on Sun Dec 04 2016 05:53 pm

I must say I am not liking the direction that Mozilla has taken FireFox
and wherever the hell Thunderbird has gone.

I thought (and maybe things have since changed) that they basically stopped active development of Thunderbird. I thought they were only maintaining it since they've considered it 'feature complete'. That meant they were just doing security updates and bugfixes.

I actually like that idea, and think there are probably a number of mature apps out there that could be considered feature complete and don't need a bunch of new functionality wedged in (unless new trends require it). To me it's an anti-bloat measure.

But again, I read this maybe 2 years ago. I haven't really kept up.

So what have I chosen for browsing and mail then? Chrome or Chromium.
Nope, SeaMonkey.

SeaMonkey is clean and has a rather nice interface that I actually like
(an old looking interface that I find rather nice; awesome icon set).

SeaMoneky is a web-browser (so FireFox is covered there), an e-mail
client and news/feed reader (Thunderbird covered there) and has chat for IRC; therefore covering the IRC part of the Thunderbird chat intergration.

This message was typed using SeaMonkey.

I actually used Seamonkey some time back for a good stretch. I liked it a lot too, but I think I started having issues when trying to upgrade/reinstall it. I wish I could remember the specific issues I was having, but whatever it was drove me back to just using Firefox and Thunderbird again.
But I do recommend people give it a look. The issues could have very well been my system (or the user running it).

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On 2016-12-17 09:17 PM, Chris wrote:

Re: Sick of FireFox and Thunderbird? Well, there's SeaMonkey.
By: Deavmi to DOVE-Net.General on Sun Dec 04 2016 05:53 pm

I must say I am not liking the direction that Mozilla has taken FireFox and wherever the hell Thunderbird has gone.

I thought (and maybe things have since changed) that they basically stopped active development of Thunderbird. I thought they were only maintaining it since they've considered it 'feature complete'. That meant they were just doing
security updates and bugfixes.

I actually like that idea, and think there are probably a number of mature apps
out there that could be considered feature complete and don't need a bunch of new functionality wedged in (unless new trends require it). To me it's an anti-bloat measure.

But again, I read this maybe 2 years ago. I haven't really kept up.

So what have I chosen for browsing and mail then? Chrome or Chromium. Nope, SeaMonkey.

SeaMonkey is clean and has a rather nice interface that I actually like (an old looking interface that I find rather nice; awesome icon set).

SeaMoneky is a web-browser (so FireFox is covered there), an e-mail
client and news/feed reader (Thunderbird covered there) and has chat for IRC; therefore covering the IRC part of the Thunderbird chat intergration.

This message was typed using SeaMonkey.

I actually used Seamonkey some time back for a good stretch. I liked it a lot too, but I think I started having issues when trying to upgrade/reinstall it. I
wish I could remember the specific issues I was having, but whatever it was drove me back to just using Firefox and Thunderbird again.
But I do recommend people give it a look. The issues could have very well been
my system (or the user running it).

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Yeah. I wish they (or whoever maintains it) didn't add new crap to Thunderbird.

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