How do you put out a flaming post?

i started a bbs net fire, and it's burning out of control! (genders post)

help me! LOL...

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How do you put out a flaming post?

i started a bbs net fire, and it's burning out of control! (genders post)

help me! LOL...

I'm not sure there's much to do except wait for the thread to die out. And then, someone new might reply to the thread a year or 2 later..

I wonder if it would be possible to implement a message networking feature that would allow someone to delete a message across the entire network - So if you delete the message on your BBS, your BBS would send some kind of message along that would instruct other BBSes on the network to delete the message.

Nightfox

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Re: what have i done?
By: Nightfox to Hylian on Thu Feb 09 2017 12:34:37

I wonder if it would be possible to implement a message networking feature that would allow someone to delete a message across the entire network - So if you delete the message on your BBS, your BBS would send some kind of message along that would instruct other BBSes on the network to delete the message.

Could definitely be done, but you'd have to be very selective about who's allowed to delete which messages. I guess the sysop could delete any message that originated from their BBS, and users could (with permission) delete any messages they posted.

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Re: what have i done?
By: Hylian to All on Thu Feb 09 2017 11:03 am

How do you put out a flaming post?

i started a bbs net fire, and it's burning out of control! (genders post)

Pull up a background check on everyone then threaten to take them to court..


HAHHAHAHA.. could'nt resist..

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Re: what have i done?
By: Nightfox to Hylian on Thu Feb 09 2017 12:34 pm

I wonder if it would be possible to implement a message networking feature that would allow someone to delete a message across the entire network - So if you delete the message on your BBS, your BBS would send some kind of message along that would instruct other BBSes on the network to delete the message.

That's a feature I've always wanted to see.. or with the new voting system, if a message gets down voted so many times it just kinda "disappears"

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Re: what have i done?
By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Thu Feb 09 2017 16:42:56

That's a feature I've always wanted to see.. or with the new voting system, if a message gets down voted so many times it just kinda "disappears"

This would be a lot easier and less destructive, and I think was one of the things DM had in mind. Could be built into a message reader and even saved as a per-user setting; you could only view messages with a score >= 0, or messages from users with a certain score, and so on.

Of course, this will become more likely / useful as more sysops update and (hopefully) the voting system sees more use. I tend to forget to vote on messages, though; I don't know what the best solution to that is, apart from an optional prompt before moving on to the next message.

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Re: what have i done?
By: Hylian to All on Thu Feb 09 2017 11:03 am

How do you put out a flaming post?

i started a bbs net fire, and it's burning out of control! (genders post)

help me! LOL...

i'll help.

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Re: what have i done?
By: Nightfox to Hylian on Thu Feb 09 2017 12:34 pm

I wonder if it would be possible to implement a message networking feature that would allow someone to delete a message across the entire network - So if you delete the message on your BBS, your BBS would send some kind of message along that would instruct other BBSes on the network to delete the message.

that's censorship!
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On 02/09/17, Nightfox said the following...

I wonder if it would be possible to implement a message networking
feature that would allow someone to delete a message across the entire network - So if you delete the message on your BBS, your BBS would send some kind of message along that would instruct other BBSes on the
network to delete the message.

I sure hope not.

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Re: what have i done?
By: echicken to KK4QBN on Thu Feb 09 2017 08:15 pm

This would be a lot easier and less destructive, and I think was one of the things DM had in mind. Could be built into a message reader and even saved as a per-user setting; you could only view messages with a score >= 0, or messages from users with a certain score, and so on.

ok, sweet.. it kinda is a natural thing to me now, hate to say like fb because A lot of times I don't like or share, etc on fb because the original poster has nefarous reasons for you to do that. But it feels more normal here. If I like someones reply to a message, but do not feel that a reply is warranted, or feel that maybe if I do reply I will stir up a shit storm, I just upvote it.

Of course, this will become more likely / useful as more sysops update and (hopefully) the voting system sees more use. I tend to forget to vote on messages, though; I don't know what the best solution to that is, apart from an optional prompt before moving on to the next message.

I would say it would more than likely become more natural with sysop as the updates continue, but maybe not an optional prompt, but something either in or close to the read message prompt instead of at the top of the message, because with attention spans these days, when someone has scrolled past the top of the message they have already forgot that it has been voted, or what the count is, etc.. if it's right at the prompt, it is still fresh in their mind.. I do realize there is'nt much room there. so maybe a message footer? above the read message prompt:

====[UV 5][DV 3]============================[ (V)ote on this message ]========

Which I presume could just be written into the text.dat now prepended to the message read prompt to show as two lines.

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Re: what have i done?
By: Mro to Nightfox on Thu Feb 09 2017 08:53 pm

I wonder if it would be possible to implement a message networking
feature that would allow someone to delete a message across the entire
network - So if you delete the message on your BBS, your BBS would
send some kind of message along that would instruct other BBSes on the
network to delete the message.

that's censorship!

The last I remember, my BBS is not required by law to provide anything to anyone, so if I think that a person is a douche bag for a while or whatever, they go away, the users more than likely could care less, because most of them think about the same, if one happens to want to see something I may provide it for them, or I may not.. thats MY choice, if they don't like it, they can go troll on with that douch on another BBS until it becomes a complete douche fest.

Thats ok though, the voting system will weed all that crap out by a DEMOCRATIC process.. until said douche just dissappears. problem solved.

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Re: Re: what have i done?
By: Immortal to Nightfox on Thu Feb 09 2017 07:15 pm

I wonder if it would be possible to implement a message networking
feature that would allow someone to delete a message across the
entire network - So if you delete the message on your BBS, your BBS
would send some kind of message along that would instruct other
BBSes on the network to delete the message.

I sure hope not.

I don't believe he's talking about Sysops deleting other peoples messages, I hope. Lets say I write a message because I get pissed at someone and fly off the handle a bit, my bbs does a mail call before I finish my message scan and it sends the message off. Well later in the message scan I find another message from a that person I just flew off the handle at, and I took everthing out of context and wish I would'nt have sent that message.

Yes it would be nice to be able to delete your own messages like that. I try to practice self control a little more now to keep from doing that. But there are messages I wish I could have deleted network wide, that I have written myself.

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Re: what have i done?
By: Mro to Nightfox on Thu Feb 09 2017 08:53 pm

By: Nightfox to Hylian on Thu Feb 09 2017 12:34 pm

I wonder if it would be possible to implement a message networking
feature that would allow someone to delete a message across the entire
network - So if you delete the message on your BBS, your BBS would
send some kind of message along that would instruct other BBSes on the
network to delete the message.

that's censorship!

WOW, I just caught that, and I may have read it wrong, so please correct me if I have. I don't like a feature where others decide if my message is worth keeping. I realize some messages or obnoxious, or are in bad taste, but who gives members the right to have it deleted. I realize this is a voting system, but I would hope their would be checks and balances in place to prevent anyone from deleting someone elses message. WOW, this feels wrong to me on so many levels, and I really hope that I read it wrong. In my day, the SYSOP of the system was the only person that had the right to delete a message on his/her system only, and only in the private areas, not the networked echos or forums.



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Re: what have i done?
By: KK4QBN to Hylian on Thu Feb 09 2017 04:41 pm

How do you put out a flaming post?

I was thinking throw it in a collection pool :)

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Re: what have i done?
By: KK4QBN to echicken on Fri Feb 10 2017 07:26 am

This would be a lot easier and less destructive, and I think was one of the things DM had in mind. Could be built into a message reader and even saved as a per-user setting; you could only view messages with a score >= 0, or messages from users with a certain score, and so on.

ok, sweet.. it kinda is a natural thing to me now, hate to say like fb because A lot of times I don't like or share, etc on fb because the original poster has nefarous reasons for you to do that. But it feels more normal

yeah, but on the other hand, places like reddit have an upvote/downvote system and they have 'bitches' who vote things down just because they dont like the person, or for various other reasons that dont equate with the poster being abusive or whatever.

if someone says this catfood is good, someone shouldnt
downvote it because they share a different opinion. this person's comment shouldnt be buried due to someone being a bitch.
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Re: what have i done?
By: DesotoFireflite to Mro on Fri Feb 10 2017 07:33 am

Re: what have i done?
By: Mro to Nightfox on Thu Feb 09 2017 08:53 pm

By: Nightfox to Hylian on Thu Feb 09 2017 12:34 pm

I wonder if it would be possible to implement a message networking
feature that would allow someone to delete a message across the entire
network - So if you delete the message on your BBS, your BBS would
send some kind of message along that would instruct other BBSes on the
network to delete the message.

that's censorship!

WOW, I just caught that, and I may have read it wrong, so please correct me if I have. I don't like a feature where others decide if my message is worth keeping. I realize some messages or obnoxious, or are in bad taste, but who gives members the right to have it deleted. I realize this is a voting system, but I would hope their would be checks and balances in place to prevent anyone from deleting someone elses message. WOW, this feels wrong to me on so many levels, and I really hope that I read it wrong. In my day, the

i dont think we have any issues where it warrants such a mechanism.
like i dont know if those 2 guys are still spamming, but i said my piece and they basically said fuck off so i filtered them. so that's good enough for me, i dont see anything they say now and that system works okay this way.
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Re: what have i done?
By: Nightfox to Hylian on Thu Feb 09 2017 12:34 pm

How do you put out a flaming post?

i started a bbs net fire, and it's burning out of control! (genders post)

help me! LOL...

I'm not sure there's much to do except wait for the thread to die out. And then, someone new might reply to the thread a year or 2 later..

I wonder if it would be possible to implement a message networking feature that would allow someone to delete a message across the entire network - So if you delete the message on your BBS, your BBS would send some kind of message along that would instruct other BBSes on the network to delete the message.

Yeah, USENET had a feature like that. It sounds doable, but also potentially dangerous and open to abuse if not done right.

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Re: what have i done?
By: echicken to KK4QBN on Thu Feb 09 2017 08:15 pm

Re: what have i done?
By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Thu Feb 09 2017 16:42:56

That's a feature I've always wanted to see.. or with the new voting system, if a message gets down voted so many times it just kinda "disappears"

This would be a lot easier and less destructive, and I think was one of the things DM had in mind. Could be built into a message reader and even saved as a per-user setting; you could only view messages with a score >= 0, or messages from users with a certain score, and so on.

Of course, this will become more likely / useful as more sysops update and (hopefully) the voting system sees more use. I tend to forget to vote on messages, though; I don't know what the best solution to that is, apart from an optional prompt before moving on to the next message.

Here's how I've been mostly using up/down-voting: I read a message and think, "yeah, that's smart or funny. But I have nothing to add to the conversation." So I up vote it.

Or I read something and think, "that's not right", so I down vote it.

I agree: when v3.17 is released for general use, then the voting system will likely (hopefully) see more use.

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Re: what have i done?
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Feb 26 2017 12:00 pm

I wonder if it would be possible to implement a message networking
feature that would allow someone to delete a message across the entire
network - So if you delete the message on your BBS, your BBS would
send some kind of message along that would instruct other BBSes on the
network to delete the message.

Yeah, USENET had a feature like that. It sounds doable, but also potentially dangerous and open to abuse if not done right.

Yeah, I imagine it could be prone to abuse. Perhaps only sysops should be restricted to doing that, but even then, I suppose it could be abused.

Nightfox

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Re: what have i done?
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Sun Feb 26 2017 04:06 pm

Re: what have i done?
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Feb 26 2017 12:00 pm

I wonder if it would be possible to implement a message networking
feature that would allow someone to delete a message across the entire
network - So if you delete the message on your BBS, your BBS would
send some kind of message along that would instruct other BBSes on the
network to delete the message.

Yeah, USENET had a feature like that. It sounds doable, but also potentially dangerous and open to abuse if not done right.

Yeah, I imagine it could be prone to abuse. Perhaps only sysops should be restricted to doing that, but even then, I suppose it could be abused.

i'm not sure this type of feature is really required, though.
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Re: what have i done?
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sun Feb 26 2017 09:31 pm

I wonder if it would be possible to implement a message networking
feature that would allow someone to delete a message across the
entire network - So if you delete the message on your BBS, your BBS
would send some kind of message along that would instruct other
BBSes on the network to delete the message.

Yeah, USENET had a feature like that. It sounds doable, but also
potentially dangerous and open to abuse if not done right.

Yeah, I imagine it could be prone to abuse. Perhaps only sysops
should be restricted to doing that, but even then, I suppose it could
be abused.

i'm not sure this type of feature is really required, though.

Sure, it's not absolutely required (and you could say that about many features in a piece of software).. I was just thinking it may be a useful feature.

Nightfox

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Re: what have i done?
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Feb 26 2017 07:51 pm

i'm not sure this type of feature is really required, though.

Sure, it's not absolutely required (and you could say that about many features in a piece of software).. I was just thinking it may be a useful feature.

it's an idea, but i dont think it's a good idea. if you dont want a msg from your bbs going out on the network you can delete it before it sends. also you can moderate msgs and only send when you approve.

i dont think this feature could have been used much in the 16-17 years i've ran
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