just wondering, if there is no way to make xfce4-terminal (or another linux terminal) render a bbs like syncterm does?

syncterm is perfect looking, but no matter what I do , it refuses to copy and paste.

I use copy and paste all the time. I used it on my last post.

For this post, using the terminal emulator, and it tries to get the art right, but mangles it...??

any help would be appreciated, by somebody, i'm sure. (No, just kidding, I would appreciate it!)

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Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Hylian to All on Mon Feb 13 2017 13:53:09

just wondering, if there is no way to make xfce4-terminal (or another linux terminal) render a bbs like syncterm does?

I use Terminator, with a custom 'BBS' profile. I installed the "More Perfect DOS VGA" font, and for encoding I have it set to CP866, which is ... close enough most of the time. Other encodings might be better; CP437 is not available. I had to tweak the colour palette some as well, can share those values if you want.

Most of the time this is good enough. If I want it to look really good, I use SyncTERM or fTelnet. Usually I want a larger / terminal window, esp. a taller one when reading messages.

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Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Hylian to All on Mon Feb 13 2017 01:53 pm

right, but mangles it...??

any help would be appreciated, by somebody, i'm sure. (No, just kidding, I would appreciate it!)

you could use qodem or netrunner
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Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Mro to Hylian on Mon Feb 13 2017 11:02 pm

Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Hylian to All on Mon Feb 13 2017 01:53 pm

right, but mangles it...??

any help would be appreciated, by somebody, i'm sure. (No, just kidding, would appreciate it!)

you could use qodem or netrunner

ill have to try those out...
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El 13/02/17 a las 18:53, Hylian escribió:

just wondering, if there is no way to make xfce4-terminal (or another linux terminal) render a bbs like syncterm does?

syncterm is perfect looking, but no matter what I do , it refuses to copy and paste.

i can copy and paste without problems..it share with x clipboard
i can select text on thunderbird (as example) and paste with the right
button to syncterm

what distro are you using?

i build my deb package on debian testing and work fine.

I use copy and paste all the time. I used it on my last post.

For this post, using the terminal emulator, and it tries to get the art right,
but mangles it...??

any help would be appreciated, by somebody, i'm sure. (No, just kidding, I would appreciate it!)

-Denny aka hylian (no duh, right?)
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Re: Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Ragnarok to Hylian on Wed Feb 15 2017 03:28 pm

El 13/02/17 a las 18:53, Hylian escribió:

just wondering, if there is no way to make xfce4-terminal (or another linu terminal) render a bbs like syncterm does?

syncterm is perfect looking, but no matter what I do , it refuses to copy paste.

i can copy and paste without problems..it share with x clipboard
i can select text on thunderbird (as example) and paste with the right button to syncterm

what distro are you using?

i build my deb package on debian testing and work fine.

I use copy and paste all the time. I used it on my last post.

For this post, using the terminal emulator, and it tries to get the art ri but mangles it...??

any help would be appreciated, by somebody, i'm sure. (No, just kidding, I would appreciate it!)

-Denny aka hylian (no duh, right?)
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I tried it on xubuntu and regular vanilla ubuntu. None of them would work. (16.04 lts 64 bit editions)

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Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Hylian to Mro on Tue Feb 14 2017 07:15 pm

Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Mro to Hylian on Mon Feb 13 2017 11:02 pm

Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Hylian to All on Mon Feb 13 2017 01:53 pm

right, but mangles it...??

any help would be appreciated, by somebody, i'm sure. (No, just kiddin would appreciate it!)

you could use qodem or netrunner

ill have to try those out...
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Is netrunner any good been using SyncTERM for a few months now and now i want to kind of branch out and try something new (any qeustons point them my way)



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Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Sharkiepaw to Hylian on Thu Mar 09 2017 02:10 am

Is netrunner any good been using SyncTERM for a few months now and now i want to kind of branch out and try something new (any qeustons point them my way)

IMHO stick with Syncterm, It's the latest and greatest.. it is actively supported and has many more features than others..

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Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Sharkiepaw to Hylian on Thu Mar 09 2017 02:10 am

Is netrunner any good been using SyncTERM for a few months now and now i want to kind of branch out and try something new (any qeustons point them my way)

I think NetRunner looks more old-school, which I like, although I've stuck to SyncTerm. I've noticed NetRunner doesn't seem as fast as SyncTerm - Not sure if it's its ANSI rendering or speed throttling..

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Hello Sharkiepaw!

09 Mar 17 02:10, you wrote to Hylian:

Is netrunner any good been using SyncTERM for a few months now and now
i want to kind of branch out and try something new (any qeustons point them my way)

I've tried other telnet clients over the years and I keep coming back
to syncterm. For me it works perfectly, never had an issue with ANSI
or running on different hardware (osx, win, *nix, arm etc). For me
syncterm is the first app I put on any new install. ;)

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Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Nightfox to Sharkiepaw on Wed Mar 08 2017 12:44 pm

Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Sharkiepaw to Hylian on Thu Mar 09 2017 02:10 am

Is netrunner any good been using SyncTERM for a few months now and now i want to kind of branch out and try something new (any qeustons point them my way)

I think NetRunner looks more old-school, which I like, although I've stuck to SyncTerm. I've noticed NetRunner doesn't seem as fast as SyncTerm - Not sure if it's its ANSI rendering or speed throttling..

netrunner runs as fast as syncterm or mtelnet on my system.
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Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Sharkiepaw to Hylian on Thu Mar 09 2017 02:10 am

Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Hylian to Mro on Tue Feb 14 2017 07:15 pm

Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Mro to Hylian on Mon Feb 13 2017 11:02 pm

Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Hylian to All on Mon Feb 13 2017 01:53 pm

right, but mangles it...??

any help would be appreciated, by somebody, i'm sure. (No, just kid would appreciate it!)

you could use qodem or netrunner

ill have to try those out...
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Is netrunner any good been using SyncTERM for a few months now and now i wan to kind of branch out and try something new (any qeustons point them my way)

Kai :3

I couldn't get it to run decent on linux.
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On 03/08/17, KK4QBN said the following...

Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Sharkiepaw to Hylian on Thu Mar 09 2017 02:10 am

Is netrunner any good been using SyncTERM for a few months now and no want to kind of branch out and try something new (any qeustons point my way)

IMHO stick with Syncterm, It's the latest and greatest.. it is actively supported and has many more features than others..

I recently got a dell laptop with win10 and use syncterm on it. I have found that the coloration and ansi graphics are very different on this platform
than it is on my ubuntu / lxde platform. The colors are not as distinct,like when I display bright yellow on a cyan background; on the win10, it's washed out. On ubuntu, it's more distinct.

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Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Tiny to Sharkiepaw on Wed Mar 08 2017 04:02 pm

Tiny thats the same with me now i used PuTTY and i could never get BBS's to look right on it i dont know if there is a way to set it up but knowing me id end up messing something up


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Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Gryphon to KK4QBN on Wed Mar 08 2017 10:53 pm

found that the coloration and ansi graphics are very different on this platform than it is on my ubuntu / lxde platform. The colors are not as distinct,like when I display bright yellow on a cyan background; on the

Thats strange, I use it on Xubuntu, the colors look "pretty much" the same as on my XP system that the BBS is served off, and the system I create them on. there is a bit of a difference, the colors are deeper on the linux system. I had so many issues even trying anything BBS related on Windows 10 that I dropped it. However I did successfully build a copy of SBBS under the bash console that comes with 10 now and it ran pretty good, but it did'nt feel right. and I wasnt even going to try to run dosemu under a fake linux bash console in windows 10 :)

I did have issues with colors looking wrong under windows 10 until I realized
I had the wrong graphics driver installed, windows replaced my graphics driver with a generic one, when I re-installed the correct graphics driver everything was great.

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Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Tiny to Sharkiepaw on Wed Mar 08 2017 04:02 pm

Tiny thats the same with me now i used PuTTY and i could never get
BBS's to look right on it i dont know if there is a way to set it up
but knowing me id end up messing something up

If you use PuTTY or (KiTTY), make sure the Remote Character set under Window->Translation is set to CP437. I also check the radio button in the same area 'Use font in both ANSI and OEM modes'. Under Window->Appearance I use the Consolas font. This seems to render ANSI quite well, the only thing I haven't seen it do is the ANSI blinking mode, but I haven't really searched that one out yet.

Since PuTTY (and KiTTY) save their setting to the windows Registry, I could export a registry snip of these settings and explain how you could import them.
They are saved in a plain text file, so you are able to review the setting prior to insure they are 'safe' to import.

cheers,

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I think NetRunner looks more old-school, which I like, although I've
stuck to SyncTerm. I've noticed NetRunner doesn't seem as fast as SyncTerm - Not sure if it's its ANSI rendering or speed throttling..

I will agree with you there. What little I was able to use it, I liked the
old school feel to it. I don't remember the name of the dialer I used in the 90s, but it felt just like it, all the way through to how slow it went.
Which, when the ansi's did show up, was nice to be able to see them at a much slower speed. That is one thing I don't like about SyncTerm. I wish you
could slow things down a bit. Might be a bit of a novelty, but it would be nice so be reminded just how far we've come. I'd love to see an option to mimic a 2400bps speed! LOL

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Re: Re: syncterm, kinda
By: xkoldfuzionx to Nightfox on Thu Mar 09 2017 09:21 pm

you could slow things down a bit. Might be a bit of a novelty, but it would be nice so be reminded just how far we've come. I'd love to see an option to mimic a 2400bps speed! LOL

If you install DOSBOX, you can tell it to have a serial port listen on an
IP port and run any old DOS terminal program. You connect by issuing an ATDT <hostname> command.

Hearing the Telix connect tones and seeing ANSIs at 9600 baud brought me right back to 1991.


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Re: Re: syncterm, kinda
By: xkoldfuzionx to Nightfox on Thu Mar 09 2017 09:21 pm

I think NetRunner looks more old-school, which I like, although I've stuck to SyncTerm. I've noticed NetRunner doesn't seem as fast as SyncTerm - Not sure if it's its ANSI rendering or speed throttling..

I will agree with you there. What little I was able to use it, I liked the old school feel to it. I don't remember the name of the dialer I used in the 90s, but it felt just like it, all the way through to how slow it went. Which, when the ansi's did show up, was nice to be able to see them at a much slower speed. That is one thing I don't like about SyncTerm. I wish you
could slow things down a bit. Might be a bit of a novelty, but it would be nice so be reminded just how far we've come. I'd love to see an option to mimic a 2400bps speed! LOL

SyncTERM has that exact feature. You can set the emulated bit-rate per connection or use Alt-Down/Up to change it during an active session/connection.

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Re: Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Poindexter Fortran to xkoldfuzionx on Fri Mar 10 2017 08:52 am

If you install DOSBOX, you can tell it to have a serial port listen on an IP port and run any old DOS terminal program. You connect by issuing an ATDT <hostname> command.

I'd love to try that on RIPterm. How do you tell dosbox to listen in on an ip port for a serial program.

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Re: Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Poindexter Fortran to xkoldfuzionx on Fri Mar 10 2017 08:52 am

If you install DOSBOX, you can tell it to have a serial port listen on an
IP port and run any old DOS terminal program. You connect by issuing an ATDT <hostname> command.

I thought that was one of the cool features of DOSBox: serial port emulation. I believe it supports emulating a modem, null-modem, and directly uses the real serial port (should some modern computer have a serial port or a USB serial port).

When I started to get back into BBSing, I had a shareware copy of a terminal program (forget which one), and DOSBox to listen on port 23. It works, but a bit overkill when programs like SyncTERM exists. :)

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That is one thing I don't like about SyncTerm. I wish you
could slow things down a bit. Might be a bit of a novelty, but it would be nice so be reminded just how far we've come. I'd love to see an option to mimic a 2400bps speed! LOL

Actually, you can slow things down in SyncTerm. If you hold the Alt key and press the up or down arrow keys, it can simulate various baud rates - Use alt+up arrow for higher speeds and alt+down arrow for lower speeds.

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By: DesotoFireflite to Poindexter Fortran on Fri Mar 10 2017 03:23 pm

I'd love to try that on RIPterm. How do you tell dosbox to listen in on an ip port for a serial program.

It's in the dosbox.conf file; it's well documented. Look for the "serial" section.


[serial]
# serial1: set type of device connected to com port.
# Can be disabled, dummy, modem, nullmodem, directserial.
# Additional parameters must be in the same line in the form of
# parameter:value. Parameter for all types is irq (optional).
# for directserial: realport (required), rxdelay (optional).
# (realport:COM1 realport:ttyS0).
# for modem: listenport (optional).
# for nullmodem: server, rxdelay, txdelay, telnet, usedtr,
# transparent, port, inhsocket (all optional).
# Example: serial1=modem listenport:5000
# Possible values: dummy, disabled, modem, nullmodem, serialmouse, directserial.
# serial2: see serial1
# Possible values: dummy, disabled, modem, nullmodem, serialmouse, directserial.
# serial3: see serial1
# Possible values: dummy, disabled, modem, nullmodem, serialmouse, directserial.
# serial4: see serial1
# Possible values: dummy, disabled, modem, nullmodem, serialmouse, directserial.
serial1=modem listenport:23


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Re: Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Poindexter Fortran to xkoldfuzionx on Fri Mar 10 2017 08:52 am

Re: Re: syncterm, kinda
By: xkoldfuzionx to Nightfox on Thu Mar 09 2017 09:21 pm

you could slow things down a bit. Might be a bit of a novelty, but it would be nice so be reminded just how far we've come. I'd love to see an option to mimic a 2400bps speed! LOL

If you install DOSBOX, you can tell it to have a serial port listen on an IP port and run any old DOS terminal program. You connect by issuing an ATDT <hostname> command.

Hearing the Telix connect tones and seeing ANSIs at 9600 baud brought me right back to 1991.

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Re: Re: syncterm, kinda
By: jagossel to Poindexter Fortran on Fri Mar 10 2017 03:23 pm

Re: Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Poindexter Fortran to xkoldfuzionx on Fri Mar 10 2017 08:52 am

If you install DOSBOX, you can tell it to have a serial port listen on an IP port and run any old DOS terminal program. You connect by issuing an ATDT <hostname> command.

I thought that was one of the cool features of DOSBox: serial port emulation. I believe it supports emulating a modem, null-modem, and directly uses the real serial port (should some modern computer have a serial port or a USB serial port).

When I started to get back into BBSing, I had a shareware copy of a terminal program (forget which one), and DOSBox to listen on port 23. It works, but a bit overkill when programs like SyncTERM exists. :)

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Re: Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Poindexter Fortran to DesotoFireflite on Fri Mar 10 2017 01:31 pm

I'd love to try that on RIPterm. How do you tell dosbox to listen in
on an ip port for a serial program.

It's in the dosbox.conf file; it's well documented. Look for the "serial" section.

[serial]
# serial1: set type of device connected to com port.
# Can be disabled, dummy, modem, nullmodem, directserial.

OK, cool, thanks, I'll check it out tonight.

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If you install DOSBOX, you can tell it to have a serial port listen on
an IP port and run any old DOS terminal program. You connect by issuing
an ATDT <hostname> command.

Hearing the Telix connect tones and seeing ANSIs at 9600 baud brought me right back to 1991.

No way!?! That's awesome! I might have to find an old terminal program then and see if I still have DOSBOX on here. What would be even better is if someone would monkey around with RipTerm and even make a bbs devoted to it!
LOL

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SyncTERM has that exact feature. You can set the emulated bit-rate per connection or use Alt-Down/Up to change it during an active session/connection.

Really? I'm going to have to look into that. I really haven't played around too much with SyncTerm, I just like the look and feel of it and the fact that it runs smoothly on my laptop. I used to use mTelnet, but that wouldn't work for me at all. Then I tried netrunner and like the screen size a lot better, but after it crashed, I just stuck with SyncTerm.

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I couldn't get it to run decent on linux.

Hum!, on an old Pentium core duo a 2.x something with 3 gig of ram under on linux in a vm driven by proxmox the vm running the bbs idle at around 6% with period at 30% and that with only giving the VM one cpu.

Very trifty. Was running for a long time on ubuntu 14 lte on a old 256mb or
ram pentium 4 as well where i could barely run windows xp decently on it.

For me the linux version is much more efficient, maybe harder for a non linux user, but that's a great opportunity to learn, that the os of the future.

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Re: Re: syncterm, kinda
By: xkoldfuzionx to Poindexter Fortran on Sun Mar 12 2017 03:23 pm

No way!?! That's awesome! I might have to find an old terminal program then and see if I still have DOSBOX on here. What would be even better is if someone would monkey around with RipTerm and even make a bbs devoted to it!

http://bbses.info/termbox/ is an install of DOSBOX with a handful of comm programs already installed.

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Re: Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Poindexter Fortran to xkoldfuzionx on Sun Mar 12 2017 06:22 pm

http://bbses.info/termbox/ is an install of DOSBOX with a handful of comm programs already installed.

is there an echo in here?
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Re: Re: syncterm, kinda
By: Ennev to Hylian on Sun Mar 12 2017 06:30 pm

I couldn't get it to run decent on linux.

Hum!, on an old Pentium core duo a 2.x something with 3 gig of ram under on linux in a vm driven by proxmox the vm running the bbs idle at around 6% wit period at 30% and that with only giving the VM one cpu.

Very trifty. Was running for a long time on ubuntu 14 lte on a old 256mb or ram pentium 4 as well where i could barely run windows xp decently on it.

For me the linux version is much more efficient, maybe harder for a non linu user, but that's a great opportunity to learn, that the os of the future.

I think you are a bit confused. I'm not talking about running my own bbs. The post was about running a specialized client for loggin on to bbses.

I know how well syncnet runs on linux, the answer being very.
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http://bbses.info/termbox/ is an install of DOSBOX with a handful of comm programs already installed.

Sweet, thanks! I'm downloading it right now.

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