• Lyrics Now-a-days

    From jagossel@VERT/KK4QBN to All on Tue Mar 21 08:00:52 2017
    Deavmi mentioned something in another post about not able to unerstand the lyrics these days and that leads to a scary thought:
    - Misunderstood lyrics
    - People ignoring the lyrics
    - No attempt to interpret the lyrics
    - People just, out-right, don't care about the lyrics

    Which explains why some of these artists get away with putting in what they put in; lack of concern or consideration and still pushing the proverbial envelop further and further.

    Personally, I'm pretty cautious about what I listen to these days. I find myself listening to more and more contempirary Christian music (even some songs I question [e.g. Soul on Fire by Third Day]) or modern-day classical (like The Piano Guys or Sinply Three).

    Is it just me being a bit sensative, or are there others who feel same way?

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to jagossel on Tue Mar 21 08:36:16 2017
    Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: jagossel to All on Tue Mar 21 2017 08:00 am

    Personally, I'm pretty cautious about what I listen to these days. I find myself listening to more and more contempirary Christian music (even some songs I question [e.g. Soul on Fire by Third Day]) or modern-day classical (like The Piano Guys or Sinply Three).

    Is it just me being a bit sensative, or are there others who feel same

    No, I would'nt say you're a bit sensitive, some people are going to call me one of those tin foil hat trolls for this next bit, but here goes. After hearing what goes on in the production of some music it makes me a bit nervous, record producers taking it to a local witch to have it "blessed", etc.. I understand that there are plenty of crackpot stories out on the internet, but this one is true, and I know there are stories that go deeper than that saying most of these record producers, movie stars, etc are part of Iluminati, which don't seem so far fetched. I like to keep an open mind, but also not nieve enough to FIRMLY believe everything I read.

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  • From Deavmi@VERT/KK4QBN to jagossel on Tue Mar 21 15:07:13 2017
    On 2017/03/21 2:00 PM, jagossel wrote:
    Deavmi mentioned something in another post about not able to unerstand the lyrics these days and that leads to a scary thought:
    - Misunderstood lyrics
    - People ignoring the lyrics
    - No attempt to interpret the lyrics
    - People just, out-right, don't care about the lyrics

    Which explains why some of these artists get away with putting in what they put
    in; lack of concern or consideration and still pushing the proverbial envelop further and further.

    Personally, I'm pretty cautious about what I listen to these days. I find myself listening to more and more contempirary Christian music (even some songs
    I question [e.g. Soul on Fire by Third Day]) or modern-day classical (like The
    Piano Guys or Sinply Three).

    Is it just me being a bit sensative, or are there others who feel same way?

    -jag
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    Interpretation is always a big thing. You can never truly know the
    answer. It depends how deep you analyse. You may be correct or not.
    Somethings can just be stupid assumptions, I really don't know.

    But I understand what you mean. I do think songs these days have crap
    lyrics but atleast they might not be as bad as songs with backtracking
    (which I believe is illegal although I don't know if it is still going on).

    Basically to some it up. You can interpret something and the reuslts may
    be wrong or right. The lyrics of songs these days are just shit and
    sexual. But I do think that it is possible (and I am 99% sure there are examples of songs that brainwash you - I mean the ones of today do,
    people just don;t take enough time to reflect and see how it has
    influenced them).

    Songs that promote terrorism or something really devastating can be very
    bad - is that what you are saying or going towards?

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  • From Deavmi@VERT/KK4QBN to KK4QBN on Tue Mar 21 15:08:38 2017
    On 2017/03/21 2:36 PM, KK4QBN wrote:
    Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: jagossel to All on Tue Mar 21 2017 08:00 am

    Personally, I'm pretty cautious about what I listen to these days. I find
    myself listening to more and more contempirary Christian music (even some
    songs I question [e.g. Soul on Fire by Third Day]) or modern-day classical
    (like The Piano Guys or Sinply Three).

    Is it just me being a bit sensative, or are there others who feel same

    No, I would'nt say you're a bit sensitive, some people are going to call me one
    of those tin foil hat trolls for this next bit, but here goes. After hearing what goes on in the production of some music it makes me a bit nervous, record
    producers taking it to a local witch to have it "blessed", etc.. I understand that there are plenty of crackpot stories out on the internet, but this one is
    true, and I know there are stories that go deeper than that saying most of these record producers, movie stars, etc are part of Iluminati, which don't seem so far fetched. I like to keep an open mind, but also not nieve enough to
    FIRMLY believe everything I read.

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    dumb to not know how to get along - always in a battle for power. And
    power is all humans want.

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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to jagossel on Tue Mar 21 09:04:22 2017
    Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: jagossel to All on Tue Mar 21 2017 08:00 am

    songs I question [e.g. Soul on Fire by Third Day]) or modern-day classical (like The Piano Guys or Sinply Three).

    I was listening on NPR to a story when the Grammy nominations were made, and "Conversations with Nijinsky" by CF Kip Winger got a nomination.

    *That* Kip Winger, of hair metal/MTV and Beavis and Butthead fame.

    Who knew?

    I'm listening to it now at kipwinger.com - check it out.




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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to KK4QBN on Tue Mar 21 09:05:30 2017
    Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: KK4QBN to jagossel on Tue Mar 21 2017 08:36 am

    No, I would'nt say you're a bit sensitive, some people are going to call me one of those tin foil hat trolls for this next bit, but here goes. After hearing what goes on in the production of some music it makes me a bit nervous, record producers taking it to a local witch to have it "blessed",

    But, that's the great thing about today, is that the cost of production and distribution has dropped to the point where you don't need a record producer or label to make music and get the music out to your audience.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to jagossel on Tue Mar 21 09:33:11 2017
    Deavmi mentioned something in another post about not able to unerstand the lyrics these days and that leads to a scary thought:
    - Misunderstood lyrics
    - People ignoring the lyrics
    - No attempt to interpret the lyrics
    - People just, out-right, don't care about the lyrics

    Which explains why some of these artists get away with putting in what they put in; lack of concern or consideration and still pushing the proverbial envelop further and further.

    Personally, I'm pretty cautious about what I listen to these days. I find myself listening to more and more contempirary Christian music (even some songs I question [e.g. Soul on Fire by Third Day]) or modern-day classical (like The Piano Guys or Sinply Three).

    Is it just me being a bit sensative, or are there others who feel same way?

    For me, I suppose I just haven't been very interested in much new music these days. Norah Jones is a more recent artist whose music I've gotten to like, and it seems her music I've listened to is already about 15 years old..

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to jagossel on Tue Mar 21 17:17:18 2017
    Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: jagossel to All on Tue Mar 21 2017 08:00 am

    Personally, I'm pretty cautious about what I listen to these days. I find myself listening to more and more contempirary Christian music (even some songs I question [e.g. Soul on Fire by Third Day]) or modern-day classical (like The Piano Guys or Sinply Three).

    Is it just me being a bit sensative, or are there others who feel same way?



    i dont listen to led zepplin because jimmy page was a devil worshiper and if you listen to some of the lyrics it's like they are trying to recruit people. he was into his crowley phase for a while and walked around in the guy's underware and bought his house.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to KK4QBN on Tue Mar 21 17:27:08 2017
    Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: KK4QBN to jagossel on Tue Mar 21 2017 08:36 am

    No, I would'nt say you're a bit sensitive, some people are going to call me one of those tin foil hat trolls for this next bit, but here goes. After hearing what goes on in the production of some music it makes me a bit nervous, record producers taking it to a local witch to have it "blessed", etc.. I understand that there are plenty of crackpot stories out on the internet, but this one is true, and I know there are stories that go deeper


    a funny thing about the rap artists are they act all tough and macho but a lot of them are gay for pay or dont care where they put it.

    suge knight said that and i heard a lot of other people say it about these rap artists.
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to jagossel on Wed Mar 22 08:20:00 2017
    jagossel wrote to All <=-

    Deavmi mentioned something in another post about not able to unerstand
    the lyrics these days and that leads to a scary thought:
    - Misunderstood lyrics
    - People ignoring the lyrics
    - No attempt to interpret the lyrics
    - People just, out-right, don't care about the lyrics

    I always try and interpret the lyrics of songs. :)

    Personally, I'm pretty cautious about what I listen to these days. I
    find myself listening to more and more contempirary Christian music
    (even some songs I question [e.g. Soul on Fire by Third Day]) or modern-day classical (like The Piano Guys or Sinply Three).

    Is it just me being a bit sensative, or are there others who feel same way?

    For me, it's often a combination of lyrics and the sound. My musical tastes are fairly broad, though for songs with vocals, I have a preference for songs where the lyrics can be understood, and have a message that resonates with me, or that can be interpreted in a way that I can relate to. We can agree to disagree on the specifics, as I'm a former Christian, having spiritually moved on decades ago, so Christian music tends not to hold any meaning for me.


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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Mro on Wed Mar 22 01:41:02 2017
    Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Mro to KK4QBN on Tue Mar 21 2017 05:27 pm

    crackpot stories out on the internet, but this one is true, and I know
    there are stories that go deeper

    a funny thing about the rap artists are they act all tough and macho but a lot of them are gay for pay or dont care where they put it.

    suge knight said that and i heard a lot of other people say it about these rap artists.

    Well.. It does'nt suprise me... which I really care less if they are Gay or not, but if playing a song in my house that unleashes "demons" because it has been blessed at the altar of a satanic church is a bit different.

    I had a friend one time who said he believed in the Devil, Satin, Lucifer, however you want to call or manifest it. and said he worshipped it. Then turns around and tells me he does not believe in God. I told him I thought he was just a little mixed up and ignorant, and should really study before making stupid comments. Lucifer would not EXIST without God.

    That kind of blew his mind. He started sorting his priorities after that. I would rather be Ignorant and not believe or know at all, than to believe and Deny. Kinda off the subject a bit, but interesting to me anyhow :)

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  • From Deavmi@VERT/KK4QBN to KK4QBN on Wed Mar 22 02:07:33 2017
    Lucifer without God.

    Give this guy an intelligence cookie.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Mro on Wed Mar 22 18:27:00 2017
    i dont listen to led zepplin because jimmy page was a devil worshiper
    and if you listen to some of the lyrics it's like they are trying to recruit people. he was into his crowley phase for a while and walked around in the guy's underware and bought his house.

    I heard he didn't believe the moon landing was real, either. Weirdo.


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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Dumas Walker on Wed Mar 22 22:57:58 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Dumas Walker to Mro on Wed Mar 22 2017 06:27 pm

    worshiper and if you listen to some of the lyrics it's like they are
    trying to recruit people. he was into his crowley phase for a while
    and walked around in the guy's underware and bought his house.

    I heard he didn't believe the moon landing was real, either. Weirdo.


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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to all on Sat Mar 25 18:04:21 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: KK4QBN to Dumas Walker on Wed Mar 22 2017 10:57 pm

    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Dumas Walker to Mro on Wed Mar 22 2017 06:27 pm

    worshiper and if you listen to some of the lyrics it's like they are
    trying to recruit people. he was into his crowley phase for a while
    and walked around in the guy's underware and bought his house.

    I heard he didn't believe the moon landing was real, either. Weirdo.


    it wasnt real. in about 50 years everyone will hear the truth i'm sure.
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  • From Hustler@VERT/DMINE to Mro on Sat Mar 25 19:48:28 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Mro to all on Sat Mar 25 2017 06:04 pm

    I heard he didn't believe the moon landing was real, either.
    Weirdo.


    it wasnt real. in about 50 years everyone will hear the truth i'm sure.

    Really? So who were those guys and where did they go?

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  • From Chris@VERT/DMINE to Poindexter Fortran on Sun Mar 26 13:48:30 2017
    Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Poindexter Fortran to jagossel on Tue Mar 21 2017 09:04 am

    I was listening on NPR to a story when the Grammy nominations were made, and "Conversations with Nijinsky" by CF Kip Winger got a nomination.

    *That* Kip Winger, of hair metal/MTV and Beavis and Butthead fame.

    Who knew?

    I'm listening to it now at kipwinger.com - check it out.


    I have this in my Emusic savelist. I'm planning on getting it after hearing some samples. For a guy who got such a bad rap, he keeps really busy these days with his rock and classical stuff. He's probably done better musically than most of his peers from that era. Not sure if that's saying much but...

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  • From Chris@VERT/DMINE to jagossel on Sun Mar 26 14:41:44 2017
    Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: jagossel to All on Tue Mar 21 2017 08:00 am

    Which explains why some of these artists get away with putting in what they in; lack of concern or consideration and still pushing the proverbial envelo further and further.
    Well you're going into a pretty subjective area. Lyrics has always been a point of contention for artists going back at least the last 50 years if not more. Peoples tastes are different, so yeah, something is going to offend or turn off somebody. Hell, The Troggs, or whoever it was that wrote 'Louie Louie' wound up being investigated by the FBI. They were the most famous example, but probably not the only ones.


    Personally, I'm pretty cautious about what I listen to these days. I find myself listening to more and more contempirary Christian music (even some so I question [e.g. Soul on Fire by Third Day]) or modern-day classical (like T Piano Guys or Sinply Three).

    Is it just me being a bit sensative, or are there others who feel same way?

    -jag
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    Not sure I'm completely getting you here, but if you are expecting lyrics to fit into you religious world view, you're asking for a bit much. There's a pretty good chance the stuff that checks off all the right boxes for you could be pretty offensive to someone else. It's just a matter of taking what your open to and leaving the rest.

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  • From Chris@VERT/DMINE to KK4QBN on Sun Mar 26 14:46:26 2017
    Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: KK4QBN to jagossel on Tue Mar 21 2017 08:36 am

    No, I would'nt say you're a bit sensitive, some people are going to call me of those tin foil hat trolls for this next bit, but here goes. After hearing what goes on in the production of some music it makes me a bit nervous, reco producers taking it to a local witch to have it "blessed", etc.. I understan that there are plenty of crackpot stories out on the internet, but this one true, and I know there are stories that go deeper than that saying most of these record producers, movie stars, etc are part of Iluminati, which don't seem so far fetched. I like to keep an open mind, but also not nieve enough FIRMLY believe everything I read.

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    Well, I'm not going to call you tin-foil hat crazy, but assuming for a moment that this witch-blessing is true, I'm not sure why this would impact you or anyone else. I almost equate this to someone freaking out because they found out their house was blessed by a priest by the previous owners. If your not a follower of the faith, it really isn't relevent to you.

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Hustler on Sun Mar 26 15:48:36 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Hustler to Mro on Sat Mar 25 2017 07:48 pm

    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Mro to all on Sat Mar 25 2017 06:04 pm

    I heard he didn't believe the moon landing was real, either.
    Weirdo.


    it wasnt real. in about 50 years everyone will hear the truth i'm sure.

    Really? So who were those guys and where did they go?

    where do actors go when they shoot movies.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Chris on Sun Mar 26 16:04:33 2017
    Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Chris to KK4QBN on Sun Mar 26 2017 02:46 pm

    Well, I'm not going to call you tin-foil hat crazy, but assuming for a moment that this witch-blessing is true, I'm not sure why this would impact you or anyone else. I almost equate this to someone freaking out because they found out their house was blessed by a priest by the previous owners. If your not a follower of the faith, it really isn't relevent to you.



    when something permeates through a more digestable medium, that allows them to sugar coat it and reach out to other people who are on a fence about their beliefs.

    devil worship, gang violence and sexuality.

    there's some music i hear that makes me wanna rob a damn liquor stor.
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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Mro on Sun Mar 26 19:42:14 2017
    Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Mro to Chris on Sun Mar 26 2017 04:04 pm

    when something permeates through a more digestable medium, that allows them to sugar coat it and reach out to other people who are on a fence about their beliefs.

    Exactly!

    devil worship, gang violence and sexuality.

    Could'nt had said it better myself, thats why I did'nt..

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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Mro on Mon Mar 27 09:00:39 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Mro to all on Sat Mar 25 2017 06:04 pm

    it wasnt real. in about 50 years everyone will hear the truth i'm sure.

    If they faked the moon landings, you'd think NASA could fake another triumph in the 45 some-odd years since they shut down the sound stage in Chatsworth.

    Hurling a semi-disposable milk truck into LEO several times doesn't count.

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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Chris on Mon Mar 27 09:05:43 2017
    Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Chris to Poindexter Fortran on Sun Mar 26 2017 01:48 pm

    some samples. For a guy who got such a bad rap, he keeps really busy these days with his rock and classical stuff. He's probably done better musically than most of his peers from that era. Not sure if that's saying much but...

    One career I've followed is Stan Ridgway - singer in Wall of Voodoo, had an early MTV hit with "Mexican Radio", went solo, recorded a couple of critically well-received new-waveish albums, then found his sound as a crooner/storyteller. He weaves engaging songs that are part story, often of some unlucky rube done wrong.

    From his web page:


    "Ridgway's post-Wall of Voodoo output has, if anything, cemented his neo-noir rep as one of American music's greatest storytellers, the wild and wily Steinbeck of sad whiskey railroads and rusted, ramshackle American dreams." AUSTIN CHRONICLE

    "Stan Ridgway is equal parts Raymond Chandler and John Huston, Johnny Cash and Rod Serling." NME

    "Probably the most compelling portrait of American social life to appear on a rock 'n' roll record since Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska." ART FORUM

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Mar 27 16:09:39 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Mro on Mon Mar 27 2017 09:00 am

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    it wasnt real. in about 50 years everyone will hear the truth i'm
    sure.

    If they faked the moon landings, you'd think NASA could fake another triumph in the 45 some-odd years since they shut down the sound stage in Chatsworth.

    PLEASE, lets not re-hash this discussion, if you only know the shit that hit the fan from the last (Fake moon landing) discussion...

    Aliens have a military base on the Darkside of the Moon, thats why NASA started the conspiricy theory of the "Fake moon landing" LOL!

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to KK4QBN on Thu Mar 23 20:20:00 2017
    I heard he didn't believe the moon landing was real, either. Weirdo.
    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Oh hell yeah!!! Best laugh I've had all day!

    Glad to be of service. :)




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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Mar 27 18:38:00 2017
    "Stan Ridgway is equal parts Raymond Chandler and John Huston, Johnny
    Cash and Rod Serling." NME

    Hmmm... my favorite author, noir director, one of my all-time favorite musicians, and the host of my favorite TV show.

    Sounds like someone I need to give a listen to. :)


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  • From jagossel@VERT/KK4QBN to KK4QBN on Mon Mar 27 21:02:27 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: KK4QBN to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Mar 27 2017 04:09 pm

    Aliens have a military base on the Darkside of the Moon, thats why NASA star the conspiricy theory of the "Fake moon landing" LOL!

    I thought it was an Autobot ship that crash landed on the dark side of the moon and NASA was the ones that made the race to go find out what it is. :D

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Mar 27 22:40:18 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Mro on Mon Mar 27 2017 09:00 am

    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Mro to all on Sat Mar 25 2017 06:04 pm

    it wasnt real. in about 50 years everyone will hear the truth i'm sure.

    If they faked the moon landings, you'd think NASA could fake another triumph in the 45 some-odd years since they shut down the sound stage in Chatsworth.


    they only had to fake it once because there was a space race and we won it. after the space race was won, almost zero interest.

    it was about dick waving.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to KK4QBN on Mon Mar 27 22:41:27 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: KK4QBN to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Mar 27 2017 04:09 pm

    Aliens have a military base on the Darkside of the Moon, thats why NASA started the conspiricy theory of the "Fake moon landing" LOL!



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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to jagossel on Tue Mar 28 07:59:33 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: jagossel to KK4QBN on Mon Mar 27 2017 09:02 pm

    NASA star the conspiricy theory of the "Fake moon landing" LOL!
    I thought it was an Autobot ship that crash landed on the dark side of the moon and NASA was the ones that made the race to go find out what it is. :D

    Yeah, that's it!

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Mro on Wed Mar 29 16:50:00 2017
    they only had to fake it once because there was a space race and we won it. after the space race was won, almost zero interest.

    it was about dick waving.

    Richard Nixon went to the Moon?!?



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  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Thu Mar 30 02:30:37 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Dumas Walker to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Mar 27 2017 06:38 pm

    Hmmm... my favorite author, noir director, one of my all-time favorite musicians, and the host of my favorite TV show.

    Sounds like someone I need to give a listen to. :)

    I'd recommend listening to his work in chronological order -- The Big Heat first for a dose of quirky, good 80s new wave, Mosquitos for his start into his storyteller role, Partyball for some weird kooky goodness, and Anatomy, where he starts to hit his stride.

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  • From Chris@VERT/DMINE to Mro on Wed Apr 5 18:43:41 2017
    Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Mro to Chris on Sun Mar 26 2017 04:04 pm

    when something permeates through a more digestable medium, that allows them sugar coat it and reach out to other people who are on a fence about their beliefs.

    devil worship, gang violence and sexuality.

    there's some music i hear that makes me wanna rob a damn liquor stor.

    True. I'm listening to music that seems to be steering me towards beastiality. But they're really good tunes, so who am I to complain???
    :-)

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  • From Chris@VERT/DMINE to Poindexter Fortran on Wed Apr 5 18:57:41 2017
    Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Chris on Mon Mar 27 2017 09:05 am

    One career I've followed is Stan Ridgway - singer in Wall of Voodoo, had an early MTV hit with "Mexican Radio", went solo, recorded a couple of critical well-received new-waveish albums, then found his sound as a crooner/storyteller. He weaves engaging songs that are part story, often of some unlucky rube done wrong.

    I never kept up with the group itself, but I do recall when Mexican Radio was big on MTV. This was around the time of Romeo Void (sp?) another one hit wonder I don't recall hearing from again.
    It is fun to follow some of these people because if you haven't kept up, some of them have gone on to do some interesting things.

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Chris on Wed Apr 5 21:58:45 2017
    Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Chris to Mro on Wed Apr 05 2017 06:43 pm


    True. I'm listening to music that seems to be steering me towards beastiality. But they're really good tunes, so who am I to complain???
    :-)


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  • From Chris@VERT/DMINE to Mro on Sun Apr 9 23:03:02 2017
    Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Mro to Chris on Wed Apr 05 2017 09:58 pm

    dont end up like mr hands.

    Damn, I'd never even heard of that case before, but I had to google it when you mentioned it. Wow, just wow.
    The Wikipedia article had me a 'perforated colon'.

    "Rectum? It damn near killed him!"

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Chris on Mon Apr 10 21:40:52 2017
    Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Chris to Mro on Sun Apr 09 2017 11:03 pm

    Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Mro to Chris on Wed Apr 05 2017 09:58 pm

    dont end up like mr hands.

    Damn, I'd never even heard of that case before, but I had to google it when you mentioned it. Wow, just wow.
    The Wikipedia article had me a 'perforated colon'.


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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to JAGOSSEL on Thu Apr 13 11:01:00 2017
    JAGOSSEL wrote to ALL <=-

    Deavmi mentioned something in another post about not able to unerstand
    the lyrics these days and that leads to a scary thought:
    - Misunderstood lyrics
    - People ignoring the lyrics
    - No attempt to interpret the lyrics
    - People just, out-right, don't care about the lyrics

    Which explains why some of these artists get away with putting in what they put in; lack of concern or consideration and still pushing the proverbial envelop further and further.

    Personally, I'm pretty cautious about what I listen to these days. I
    find myself listening to more and more contempirary Christian music
    (even some songs I question [e.g. Soul on Fire by Third Day]) or modern-day classical (like The Piano Guys or Sinply Three).

    Is it just me being a bit sensative, or are there others who feel same way?

    I'm a singer-songwriter and lyrics are VERY important to me. I also
    listen VERY closely to the lyrics of other writers.


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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to DEAVMI on Thu Apr 13 11:03:00 2017
    DEAVMI wrote to KK4QBN <=-

    Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: jagossel to All on Tue Mar 21 2017 08:00 am

    Yeah. The world is a scary place. I am not one to conspire much but I
    do question things sometimes.

    Humans are smart but also if you introspect our standing, we are pretty dumb to not know how to get along - always in a battle for power. And power is all humans want.

    Amen!

    What is it about 'love one another' that is so hard for some people?

    SMH


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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to JIMMY ANDERSON on Tue Apr 18 19:06:11 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to DEAVMI on Thu Apr 13 2017 11:03 am

    DEAVMI wrote to KK4QBN <=-

    Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: jagossel to All on Tue Mar 21 2017 08:00 am

    Yeah. The world is a scary place. I am not one to conspire much but I do question things sometimes.

    Humans are smart but also if you introspect our standing, we are pretty dumb to not know how to get along - always in a battle for power. And power is all humans want.

    Amen!

    What is it about 'love one another' that is so hard for some people?



    because we are part of nature and loving one another is not part of nature.
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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to MRO on Wed Apr 19 02:24:00 2017
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    Amen!

    What is it about 'love one another' that is so hard for some people?



    because we are part of nature and loving one another is not part of nature. ---

    I disagree. I believe in God and I believe God created Nature to
    be a place for man to live and love. I think it's man that has
    fallen, not nature.





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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to JIMMY ANDERSON on Thu Apr 20 06:37:13 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to MRO on Wed Apr 19 2017 02:24 am

    What is it about 'love one another' that is so hard for some people?



    because we are part of nature and loving one another is not part of
    nature. ---

    I disagree. I believe in God and I believe God created Nature to
    be a place for man to live and love. I think it's man that has
    fallen, not nature.

    Thats true, Until MAN created RELIGIOUS DOGMA!

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sat Apr 22 02:52:22 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to MRO on Wed Apr 19 2017 02:24 am

    MRO wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    Amen!

    What is it about 'love one another' that is so hard for some people?



    because we are part of nature and loving one another is not part of nature. ---

    I disagree. I believe in God and I believe God created Nature to
    be a place for man to live and love. I think it's man that has
    fallen, not nature.



    i guess you havent paid much attention to nature because nature is fucking cruel. we are not meant to love one another. we are not meant to accept different kinds of people.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to KK4QBN on Sat Apr 22 02:56:48 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: KK4QBN to JIMMY ANDERSON on Thu Apr 20 2017 06:37 am


    I disagree. I believe in God and I believe God created Nature to
    be a place for man to live and love. I think it's man that has
    fallen, not nature.

    Thats true, Until MAN created RELIGIOUS DOGMA!


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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Mro on Sat Apr 22 07:59:10 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Mro to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sat Apr 22 2017 02:52 am

    i guess you havent paid much attention to nature because nature is fucking cruel. we are not meant to love one another. we are not meant to accept different kinds of people.

    God cast all tribes aside and developed different tongues and cultures..

    "Love thy neighbor"


    Now the world has become thy neighbor.. it's time for it to end.. humans have run their course, earth is about to cleanse itself..


    Nature is'nt cruel, Humans are cruel, we're too full of ourselves to live in harmony with what we have been given. and too much information/education has been lost through the "crusades" and dark ages. so certain people can keep dominion over the rest, that we continue to live in this "stone age industrial revolution". we as a people could be so enligneted right now if not for Dogma and the fear of a vengeful God. Why would a creator (or seeder) want to keep their creation hindered.. I find it all stupid..

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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Mro on Sat Apr 22 10:05:48 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Mro to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sat Apr 22 2017 02:52:22

    i guess you havent paid much attention to nature because nature is fucking cruel. we are not meant to love one another. we are not meant to accept different kinds of people.

    Statements likes this I completely disagree with, and I think it is actually demeaning to humans. Regardless if you believe in being created or having been evolved, we should be more civilized than the rest of nature. To say that "we're not meant to love one or another", or, "we're not meant to accept different kinds of people" is just execusing negative behavior; even to the extremes of violence and abuse.

    I'm sorry, but I just cannot accept the fact that we are not meant to be this way as stated. This line of thinking is what leads to even more violence and depression in some cases.

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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to KK4QBN on Sat Apr 22 10:23:52 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: KK4QBN to Mro on Sat Apr 22 2017 07:59:10

    God cast all tribes aside and developed different tongues and cultures..

    "Love thy neighbor"

    Nature is'nt cruel, Humans are cruel, we're too full of ourselves to live in harmony with what we have been given. and too much information/education has been lost through the "crusades" and dark ages. so certain people can keep dominion over the rest, that we continue to live in this "stone age industr revolution". we as a people could be so enligneted right now if not for Dogm and the fear of a vengeful God. Why would a creator (or seeder) want to keep their creation hindered.. I find it all stupid..

    I agree with you, Tim. We are supposed to be loving one another, and the only way we have been able to get as far as we have is to be more accepting of others. Regardless of what we believe in how we got here, either by intelligent design or evolution, we came a long way; and the only way we have gotten to this point is by being more accepting of others, in spite of the differences. Saying we are not meant to be this way is destructive and just execuses negative, violent, and abusive behaior.

    We stil have problems, we still have selfishness (who doesn't?), at least some people (regardless of reliegion or beliefs) are trying to better themselves. Some people see the good and bad, some have suffered consequences; and it is because of this, they want to better themselves.

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Jagossel on Sat Apr 22 12:13:51 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Jagossel to Mro on Sat Apr 22 2017 10:05 am

    i guess you havent paid much attention to nature because nature is fucking cruel. we are not meant to love one another. we are not meant to accept different kinds of people.

    Statements likes this I completely disagree with, and I think it is actually demeaning to humans.


    good, humans deserve it.

    demeaning to humans. Regardless if you believe in being created or having been evolved,

    it doesnt matter what we believe in.

    we should be more civilized than the rest of nature.

    why should we be more civilized than nature? in actuality, we are much
    worse than nature. there is nothing good about man; he is a destructive organism.


    To say
    that "we're not meant to love one or another", or, "we're not meant to accept different kinds of people" is just execusing negative behavior; even to the extremes of violence and abuse.

    i'm not excusing anything. that's how nature is.

    this way as stated. This line of thinking is what leads to even more violence and depression in some cases.

    no, that's just how people are.
    turning a blind eye to everything doesnt help either.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mro on Sat Apr 22 19:14:16 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Mro to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sat Apr 22 2017 02:52 am

    i guess you havent paid much attention to nature because nature is fucking cruel. we are not meant to love one another. we are not meant to accept different kinds of people.

    Seems to me it would be best to improve ourselves, to try to be better than that, rather than to continue on being cruel to each other. Why would we want to keep doing that? There's so much hatred and cruel things going on in the world, and I keep thinking there must be a better way.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to KK4QBN on Sat Apr 22 19:18:07 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: KK4QBN to Mro on Sat Apr 22 2017 07:59 am

    Nature is'nt cruel,

    I suppose if you take the statement "nature is cruel" at face value, I suppose what some people are referring to are things like animals that hunt other animals for food, etc. - but I suppose that's just the way of nature.

    Humans are cruel, we're too full of ourselves to live
    in harmony with what we have been given. and too much information/education has been lost through the "crusades" and dark ages. so certain people can keep dominion over the rest, that we continue to live in this "stone age industrial revolution". we as a people could be so enligneted right now if not for Dogma and the fear of a vengeful God. Why would a creator (or seeder) want to keep their creation hindered.. I find it all stupid..

    Yep, I think we have a ways to go in order to better ourselves. Sometimes I wonder that if there is a God, perhaps he put all the different types of people and languages etc. on the earth so that we'd learn to cooperate and be a peaceful civilization - I think that would be a worthy goal.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Jagossel on Sat Apr 22 19:23:22 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Jagossel to Mro on Sat Apr 22 2017 10:05 am

    i guess you havent paid much attention to nature because nature is
    fucking cruel. we are not meant to love one another. we are not
    meant to accept different kinds of people.

    Statements likes this I completely disagree with, and I think it is actually demeaning to humans. Regardless if you believe in being created or having been evolved, we should be more civilized than the rest of nature. To say that "we're not meant to love one or another", or, "we're not meant to accept different kinds of people" is just execusing negative behavior; even to the extremes of violence and abuse.

    I'm sorry, but I just cannot accept the fact that we are not meant to be this way as stated. This line of thinking is what leads to even more violence and depression in some cases.

    I agree totally. We can't excuse the cruel behavior we see with statements like "we are not meant to love each other" and "we are not meant to accept different kinds of people". I think it's just the opposite - we ARE meant to love each other and accept different kinds of people; we just need to learn to improve ourselves so that we can do it. We need to somehow grow out of this phase where someone wouldn't consider helping someone else in need, or where some people don't want to be around different kinds of people, or (on a more global scale) we have nuclear weapons that we're ready to drop on other people because they piss us off or we disagree with them.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mro on Sat Apr 22 19:27:39 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Mro to Jagossel on Sat Apr 22 2017 12:13 pm

    Statements likes this I completely disagree with, and I think it is
    actually demeaning to humans.

    good, humans deserve it.

    If that's what you think about humans, do you include yourself in that statement?

    why should we be more civilized than nature? in actuality, we are much worse than nature. there is nothing good about man; he is a destructive organism.

    You're reminding me of Agent Smith from The Matrix. To quote: "Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet."

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Sun Apr 23 00:22:23 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Nightfox to Mro on Sat Apr 22 2017 07:14 pm

    fucking cruel. we are not meant to love one another. we are not meant to accept different kinds of people.

    Seems to me it would be best to improve ourselves, to try to be better than that, rather than to continue on being cruel to each other. Why would we want to keep doing that? There's so much hatred and cruel things going on in the world, and I keep thinking there must be a better way.



    yeah but we've had plenty of time to do that, but we keep doing the same old shit if you REALLY take a look in an unbiased way.

    i think the human race is just wired to be this way and there's no way
    for us to break what we do. we just find different justifications.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Sun Apr 23 00:23:13 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Sat Apr 22 2017 07:18 pm

    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: KK4QBN to Mro on Sat Apr 22 2017 07:59 am

    Nature is'nt cruel,

    I suppose if you take the statement "nature is cruel" at face value, I suppose what some people are referring to are things like animals that hunt other animals for food, etc. - but I suppose that's just the way of nature.


    animals dont just kill other animals for food; they kill other animals because they are different.

    they also kill other animals for no reason.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Sun Apr 23 00:25:19 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Nightfox to Jagossel on Sat Apr 22 2017 07:23 pm


    I agree totally. We can't excuse the cruel behavior we see with statements


    i wasnt excusing it; i'm saying that's how it is.

    learn to improve ourselves so that we can do it. We need to somehow grow out of this phase where someone wouldn't consider helping someone else in need, or where some people don't want to be around different kinds of people, or (on a more global scale) we have nuclear weapons that we're ready to drop on other people because they piss us off or we disagree with them.



    good luck with that. why are you bringing up nuclear weapons? didnt we last use them in the mid 40s? we have all kinds of weapons we can use.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Sun Apr 23 00:26:34 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Nightfox to Mro on Sat Apr 22 2017 07:27 pm

    Statements likes this I completely disagree with, and I think it is
    actually demeaning to humans.

    good, humans deserve it.

    If that's what you think about humans, do you include yourself in that statement?

    no, i'm an alien.

    why should we be more civilized than nature? in actuality, we are much worse than nature. there is nothing good about man; he is a destructive organism.

    You're reminding me of Agent Smith from The Matrix. To quote: "Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet."


    that's because you are autistic.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Sun Apr 23 08:59:00 2017
    Yep, I think we have a ways to go in order to better ourselves. Sometimes I >wonder that if there is a God, perhaps he put all the different types of people
    and languages etc. on the earth so that we'd learn to cooperate and be a >peaceful civilization - I think that would be a worthy goal.

    I may have my bible stories mixed up, but wasn't the point of the Tower of Babel story that he punished us by making us all speak different languages
    so that there would be difficulty communicating, lack of cooperation (so we would not try to build a tower to Heaven again), and conflict?

    My impression of that story, and many others, was that he means for there to
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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Dumas Walker on Sun Apr 23 10:15:24 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Sun Apr 23 2017 08:59:00

    I may have my bible stories mixed up, but wasn't the point of the Tower of Babel story that he punished us by making us all speak different languages so that there would be difficulty communicating, lack of cooperation (so we would not try to build a tower to Heaven again), and conflict?

    Genesis 11:1-9

    I am not a Bible scholar by any means, and this is my personal belief, and not affiliated with any one organization. That said, here is my speculation:

    After just reading it myself and without doing too much deep research into it, I suspect that there was a concern that humanity would be too far advanced too soon, which would have thrown the whole time table off. The division in languages ended up acting as a barrier to help slow down the progression.

    Verse 6 shows the concern that humanity would have nothing to stop them and now have the means to do whatever they want. I suspect that it was not time yet for humantiy to be in this position. It was not meant to cause division, but to slow us down in our technological progression.

    And even then, to build a tower that reaches to the heavens? I would be concerned about three things:
    1) Stability: the skyscrapers sway a bit on the uper levels from the wind
    2) Falls: I mean it would be a long way down
    3) Oxygen Depravation: From what I have heard, climing Mt. Everest shows this

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mro on Sun Apr 23 10:10:57 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Mro to Nightfox on Sun Apr 23 2017 12:22 am

    Seems to me it would be best to improve ourselves, to try to be better

    yeah but we've had plenty of time to do that, but we keep doing the same old shit if you REALLY take a look in an unbiased way.

    In the grand scheme of things, humans haven't been around very long. Dinosaurs were around for much longer than humans have been around. It might just take more time.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mro on Sun Apr 23 10:13:07 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Mro to Nightfox on Sun Apr 23 2017 12:25 am

    kinds of people, or (on a more global scale) we have nuclear weapons
    that we're ready to drop on other people because they piss us off or
    we disagree with them.

    good luck with that. why are you bringing up nuclear weapons? didnt we last use them in the mid 40s? we have all kinds of weapons we can use.

    Because nuclear weapons are probably the worst kind of weapons we have.. Seems like that would have gone without saying. Also, some countries have a stockpile of nuclear weapons, which suggests some people think they might want to use them.

    Nightfox

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Sun Apr 23 18:51:51 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Apr 23 2017 10:10 am

    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Mro to Nightfox on Sun Apr 23 2017 12:22 am

    Seems to me it would be best to improve ourselves, to try to be better

    yeah but we've had plenty of time to do that, but we keep doing the same old shit if you REALLY take a look in an unbiased way.

    In the grand scheme of things, humans haven't been around very long. Dinosaurs were around for much longer than humans have been around. It might just take more time.



    modern humans have been around ~200,000 years, civialized humans are about ~6,000 years.

    how much time do we need to not kill eachother.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Sun Apr 23 18:53:52 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Apr 23 2017 10:13 am


    kinds of people, or (on a more global scale) we have nuclear weapons
    that we're ready to drop on other people because they piss us off or
    we disagree with them.

    good luck with that. why are you bringing up nuclear weapons? didnt we last use them in the mid 40s? we have all kinds of weapons we can use.

    Because nuclear weapons are probably the worst kind of weapons we have.. Seems like that would have gone without saying. Also, some countries have a stockpile of nuclear weapons, which suggests some people think they might want to use them.


    no, chemical weapons are the worst kinds of weapons.

    and how about guerilla warefare and terrorism? those are bad weapons.
    or, combine all 3. then you have a people going crazy and being afraid of living.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Sun Apr 23 18:30:00 2017
    Because nuclear weapons are probably the worst kind of weapons we have.. Seems
    like that would have gone without saying. Also, some countries have a >stockpile of nuclear weapons, which suggests some people think they might want >to use them.

    I used to think that but recently I watched a mini-series about WWI. I think
    I would rather get nuked and vaporized instantly than get hit with mustard
    gas. That was horrible and could remain in an area for a very long time,
    until some unsuspecting person disturbed whatever it was "hiding" in.

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sun Apr 23 21:19:14 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Sun Apr 23 2017 06:30 pm

    Because nuclear weapons are probably the worst kind of weapons we have.. Seems
    like that would have gone without saying. Also, some countries have a >stockpile of nuclear weapons, which suggests some people think they might want >to use them.

    I used to think that but recently I watched a mini-series about WWI. I think
    I would rather get nuked and vaporized instantly than get hit with mustard gas. That was horrible and could remain in an area for a very long time, until some unsuspecting person disturbed whatever it was "hiding" in.



    also, just putting land minds is horrible. innocent people get maimed or killed for years.

    i'll take a nuke over anything else.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Mon Apr 24 08:27:23 2017
    I used to think that but recently I watched a mini-series about WWI. I think I would rather get nuked and vaporized instantly than get hit with mustard gas. That was horrible and could remain in an area for a very long time, until some unsuspecting person disturbed whatever it was "hiding" in

    I was thinking of weapons in terms of the effect of killing lives, particularly innocent lives. That was my thinking as far as nuclear weapons being the worst. They certainly seem like the most powerful. Mustard gas is certainly terrible too.

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to NIGHTFOX on Mon Apr 24 20:36:00 2017
    I was thinking of weapons in terms of the effect of killing lives, particularly
    innocent lives. That was my thinking as far as nuclear weapons being the worst.
    They certainly seem like the most powerful. Mustard gas is certainly terrible >too.

    Well, yeah, a nuke would probably kill more people faster than anything else
    we have right now.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Mro on Thu Apr 27 14:58:59 2017
    no, chemical weapons are the worst kinds of weapons.

    Seems like it depends on the criteria you use. Nuclear weapons are pretty bad for killing a lot of people quickly.

    Nightfox

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thu Apr 27 19:14:58 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Nightfox to Mro on Thu Apr 27 2017 02:58 pm

    no, chemical weapons are the worst kinds of weapons.

    Seems like it depends on the criteria you use. Nuclear weapons are pretty bad for killing a lot of people quickly.

    Nightfox


    yeah, but killing a lot of people slowly and creating a pandemic of fear is a worse weapon
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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to KK4QBN on Thu Apr 20 06:27:00 2017
    KK4QBN wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    What is it about 'love one another' that is so hard for some people?

    because we are part of nature and loving one another is not part of
    nature. ---

    I disagree. I believe in God and I believe God created Nature to
    be a place for man to live and love. I think it's man that has
    fallen, not nature.

    Thats true, Until MAN created RELIGIOUS DOGMA!

    AGREED! I'm a Christian, but it's because I'm a believer and
    follower of Christ, not because my name is on the role at the
    local Baptist Church...




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to JAGOSSEL on Wed Jun 7 10:25:00 2017
    For the record, I agree with you. I started ignoring MRO long
    ago. I have enough people I'm around that are negative without
    adding to it. :-)

    Have a great day!


    JAGOSSEL wrote to MRO <=-

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    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: Mro to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sat Apr 22 2017 02:52:22

    i guess you havent paid much attention to nature because nature is fucking cruel. we are not meant to love one another. we are not meant to accept different kinds of people.

    Statements likes this I completely disagree with, and I think it is actually demeaning to humans. Regardless if you believe in being
    created or having been evolved, we should be more civilized than the
    rest of nature. To say that "we're not meant to love one or another",
    or, "we're not meant to accept different kinds of people" is just execusing negative behavior; even to the extremes of violence and
    abuse.

    I'm sorry, but I just cannot accept the fact that we are not meant to
    be this way as stated. This line of thinking is what leads to even
    more violence and depression in some cases.

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to DUMAS WALKER on Wed Jun 7 10:36:00 2017
    DUMAS WALKER wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

    I may have my bible stories mixed up, but wasn't the point of the Tower
    of Babel story that he punished us by making us all speak different languages so that there would be difficulty communicating, lack of cooperation (so we would not try to build a tower to Heaven again), and conflict?

    My impression of that story, and many others, was that he means for
    there to be conflict, pain, suffering, etc.

    There's no way you can build a tower to heaven, so that's not what they
    were punished for. They thought they could be God or be better than God
    with their worldly 'building of a tower.' That's the part God said couldn't fly.



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  • From Leregard@VERT/TINFOILH to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sun Jun 25 13:02:38 2017
    Re: Re: Lyrics Now-a-days
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to DUMAS WALKER on Wed Jun 07 2017 10:36 am

    There's no way you can build a tower to heaven, so that's not what they
    were punished for. They thought they could be God or be better than God
    with their worldly 'building of a tower.' That's the part God said couldn't fly.

    I'm not sure where this came from, but it was called the Tower of Babel for a reason, and that is because the Babylonians actually built these things. They didn't literally reach to heaven, but they had 7 levels representing the known planets and were basically models of what Babylonian "wise men" and astronomers actually thought the universe looked like. The planets were ranked in order of how fast they moved, as in, Mars appears to go around the Earth much slower than Mercury, Venus, or the Sun, or the Moon, so it must be "higher up" or further away. They thought your soul could ascend in contemplation through these levels and reach the plane of the fixed stars, which was not "heaven" in the Christian sense but was ethereal and eternal and free from the suffering of THIS world. Let me stress, these were REAL THINGS. Babylonians were real people who actually, really built them. The Jews were slaves in Babylon for quite some time and many were converting to the Babylonian worldview and metaphysical scheme (instead of the Genesis one)m and THAT'S what the Bible had a problem with.

    It's not spelled out, but I suspect the whole diversity of languages thing is a veiled suggestion of how there are multiple ways that one can see the world and one's place in it, which is VERY CONFUSING if you have a magic book from God that other people from other tribes just refuse to believe in for some reason.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Tue Jun 27 17:36:00 2017
    There's no way you can build a tower to heaven, so that's not what they
    were punished for. They thought they could be God or be better than God
    with their worldly 'building of a tower.' That's the part God said couldn't >fly.

    That is not how they teach it to you in Sunday School when you are a kid.
    Yeah, I know you should go back and re-read it when you are grown up to get
    the real scoop but, oddly enough, telling kids one thing and grown ups something else is one of the warning signs of a cult.

    Go figure.

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  • From Deavmi@VERT/KK4QBN to Chris on Thu Jun 29 07:00:59 2017
    Lyrics these days are so bad.

    For example:

    They see me in my speedo
    Looking hot like a cheeto
    They be getting a lebido
    Cause I'm hot like a freeto
    Crack, cicaine is fine though
    It ain't illegal, I just tip-toe
    Shit shit shit skit skit bang borat.

    I made this up on the spot after getting some inspiration from "Borat goes gansta"

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  • From Lith@VERT/ASIRTA to Deavmi on Thu Jun 29 09:00:18 2017
    Deavmi mentioned something in another post about not able to unerstand the lyrics these days and that leads to a scary > thought:
    - Misunderstood lyrics
    - People ignoring the lyrics
    - No attempt to interpret the lyrics
    - People just, out-right, don't care about the lyrics

    I agree this may be true with a majority of main-stream music, but I would say that we have more musical talent available now than any time before. There are many small artists on Bandcamp and Soundcloud for example who have alot of talent and have much better lyrics and musical ability than main-stream music.

    Unfortunately, due to the difficulty and expense of marketing and accessing the dinosaur radio & media markets, great artists sometimes don't get the airtime. But, one could say that the music market has changed and people don't really listen to "FM" radio and such any more.

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to LITH on Thu Jul 6 02:39:00 2017
    LITH wrote to DEAVMI <=-

    I agree this may be true with a majority of main-stream music, but I
    would say that we have more musical talent available now than any time before. There are many small artists on Bandcamp and Soundcloud for example who have alot of talent and have much better lyrics and musical ability than main-stream music.

    Unfortunately, due to the difficulty and expense of marketing and accessing the dinosaur radio & media markets, great artists sometimes don't get the airtime. But, one could say that the music market has changed and people don't really listen to "FM" radio and such any more.

    As a singer-songwriter that can't make a living at it, I must agree.

    I'm very popular locally - write my own stuff - do covers as well - put
    on a great show - the whole bit. But my music is not 'mainstream' enough
    to 'sell.'

    I've accepted it. Been an off and on musician since I was 13. I'm now 50
    and know that particular dream won't happen, but doesn't keep me from
    going out there and having as much fun as I can have while making other
    folks happy. :-)




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