Hello,
I am looking to see if there are any BBS's still active aka 20+ users at any given time. Does anybody know of any active boards?

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Hello,
I am looking to see if there are any BBS's still active aka 20+ users at any given time. Does anybody know of any active boards?

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I'm the Co-SysOp of thr KK4QBN BBS at kk4qbn.synchro.net . Therr are people online at some times. It seems pretty active in the world where BBSes aren't that active.

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Rose to All on Fri Apr 07 2017 11:39 pm

Hello,
I am looking to see if there are any BBS's still active aka 20+ users at any given time. Does anybody know of any active boards?

HAHA
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Re: Active BBS's
By: Mro to Rose on Sat Apr 08 2017 08:41 am

I am looking to see if there are any BBS's still active aka 20+ users
at any given time. Does anybody know of any active boards?

HAHA

LMFAO!.. any SBBS that has the right connections, MAY be able to allow him to interact with 20 different live people at once all networked though..

I've never had more than 5 people on at once since I opened back up..

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Mro to Rose on Sat Apr 08 2017 08:41 am

LMFAO!.. any SBBS that has the right connections, MAY be able to allow him to interact with 20 different live people at once all networked though..

I've never had more than 5 people on at once since I opened back up..

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I was going to reply and then I forgot. Oh yes. I should just send a link to the BBS to a bunch of friends and then see what happens.

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Deavmi to Rose on Sat Apr 08 2017 06:27 am

I'm the Co-SysOp of thr KK4QBN BBS at kk4qbn.synchro.net . Therr are people online at some times. It seems pretty active in the world where BBSes aren't that active.

What would you say attracts people to your BBS? I had 3 people in the last year log into mine.

I had been working on an original door game. My hope was that people would would play it and give feedback, and perhaps we'd build a community around it. But that didn't happen and I kind of lost hope for the game.

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Re: Active BBS's
By: KK4QBN to Mro on Sat Apr 08 2017 10:08 am

LMFAO!.. any SBBS that has the right connections, MAY be able to allow him t interact with 20 different live people at once all networked though..

Are you saying it is possible for people logged into other SBBS systems to interact with each other in real time? How would I set this up?

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04-08-17 10:08 KK4QBN wrote to Mro about Active BBS's
Howdy! Tim and Rose,

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Mro to Rose on Sat Apr 08 2017 08:41 am

I am looking to see if there are any BBS's still active aka 20+ users
at any given time. Does anybody know of any active boards?

HAHA

any SBBS that has the right connections, MAY be able to allow
him to interact with 20 different live people at once all networked though..

I've never had more than 5 people on at once since I opened back up..

Roses comment had me thinking back to the time all(?) BBS's were Dial-Up
and only one person could use it at a time.
Everyone else calling got a busy signal.

Internet BBS software changed all of that.

If I can't connect now, I think the system is down for maintenance or
something else, and try Logging On again later.

I think, Synchronet has a Listing of BBS's on their Wiki.
DoveNet, FIDO, Mystic, GT POWER and other BBS Networks may have BBS Lists. Maybe Wikipedia has some pages for those Networks that show BBS's?

Back in Dial-Up daze there was a Network in Louisville, Kentucky called D.I.S.K. that more than one person at a time could use via Dial-Up.


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Re: Active BBS's
By: Xucaen to Deavmi on Sat Apr 08 2017 01:34 pm

What would you say attracts people to your BBS? I had 3 people in the last year log into mine.

you run on a non standard port and you dont advertise enough.
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Re: Active BBS's
By: Xucaen to Deavmi on Sat Apr 08 2017 01:34 pm

I'm the Co-SysOp of thr KK4QBN BBS at kk4qbn.synchro.net . Therr are
people online at some times. It seems pretty active in the world where
BBSes aren't that active.

What would you say attracts people to your BBS? I had 3 people in the last year log into mine.

To try to be as active as possible on the BBS yourself, not just in the message bases, but doorgames, etc also.. get your name out there, do not only advertise on the BBS echoes but other places also. Both Deavmi and I post updates regularly giving the status of the BBS, asking people what they want, need, and doing our best to fulfill those needs. Offering as many ways to connect as possible, we have some users who ONLY use the website, while others ONLY use telnet or dialup.

But alas, the heyday of BBSes are over, we get many people who drop by just for nostalgia sake, Our BBS also tries to specialize in a few fields, Amateur Radio, RC, and Programming. We get MANY calls daily who just use the guest acount, we try our best to get those people back and have them create an account. Don't have your guest account wrapped up so tight that people think that is all you offer, but also, don't give them EVERYTHING on the first call, let them know that there is much more to be had, and live up to that promise.

I had been working on an original door game. My hope was that people would would play it and give feedback, and perhaps we'd build a community around it. But that didn't happen and I kind of lost hope for the game.

Thats a good idea, I love homebrew doorgames, Why not offer RLOGIN access to that game so other systems can offer it on their BBS but YOU still serve it, fix the RLOGIN to go straight into a menu to allow them to play that game, and then give the option to check out the BBS of the person who created that game.. win win for all.

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Xucaen to KK4QBN on Sat Apr 08 2017 01:36 pm

LMFAO!.. any SBBS that has the right connections, MAY be able to allow
him t interact with 20 different live people at once all networked
though..

Are you saying it is possible for people logged into other SBBS systems to interact with each other in real time? How would I set this up?

Many different ways, depending on whether you want to write your own code or use others, JSON, and JS is the way to go. EChicken has already created modules to do this, Syncwall, Synchat I believe it is called, BBSLink for games, SBBS already has InterBBS chat, etc built in, but so much more can be done with JS. A guy named Mark runs BBSLink and it has probably close to 40 BBS systems, and and close to 40 games, at times when play LORD, 5 or 6 people will be playing at once. I run a QWKnet network for BBSLink that distributes score files and has echoes for players to interact with one another, heck, the score files can even be pulled from the BBSLink server in realtime using about a 4 line JS code that can be put anywhere in your menu shell, login sequence, or anywhere.. Your imagination is the limit now that DM and all these great coders have hacked up a great system.. I love all the possibilites.. I'm only limited by my lack in knowledge of JS, I know enough to get by :)

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Xucaen to Deavmi on Sat Apr 08 2017 01:34 pm

What would you say attracts people to your BBS? I had 3 people in the last year log into mine.

Not many younger people even know what a BBS is these days.

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Xucaen to KK4QBN on Sat Apr 08 2017 01:36 pm

Are you saying it is possible for people logged into other SBBS systems to interact with each other in real time? How would I set this up?

Synchronet has a built in irc channel I have seen as many as 20 or so people there at one time.

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Xucaen wrote to Deavmi <=-

I had been working on an original door game. My hope was that people
would would play it and give feedback, and perhaps we'd build a
community around it. But that didn't happen and I kind of lost hope for the game.

I guess it depends on the people. A door game wouldn't attract me, for instance. I was never a game player, other than the occasional dabble with BRE on one of the boards I used to call, but I'm not a gamer by any stretch of the imagination, whether door games or more modern video games.

I was attracted to messaging and community, the same things that attract me to BBSs today. I find BBS communities are often close knit (I used to love sysop meets, met some great people there), and even when I couldn't physically meet in person, there was a sense of community in those international echoes. I accept that I'll probably never have a sysop meet again, but the community is still there, at least the spirit lives on.


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KK4QBN wrote to Xucaen <=-

people what they want, need, and doing our best to fulfill those needs. Offering as many ways to connect as possible, we have some users who
ONLY use the website, while others ONLY use telnet or dialup.

I'm a believer on flexibility of access. I'm not a fan of web interfaces, but I will always want to offer one, so web oriented people can feel comfortable using the system with a familiar interface.

But alas, the heyday of BBSes are over, we get many people who drop by just for nostalgia sake, Our BBS also tries to specialize in a few
fields, Amateur Radio, RC, and Programming. We get MANY calls daily who just use the guest acount, we try our best to get those people back and have them create an account. Don't have your guest account wrapped up
so tight that people think that is all you offer, but also, don't give them EVERYTHING on the first call, let them know that there is much
more to be had, and live up to that promise.

Yes, I think the days of lots of users are over, but as I run my systems for myself, any users I get are a bonus, but not the primary reason I run a BBS or 2. I agree about the guest account. I let my guests look around but not post anything except files or messages to the sysop, so they can see what's on my systems, without having to create an account first. Pretty much the same as what many web forums do these days.


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On 2017-04-09 05:38 AM, Roadhog wrote:

Re: Active BBS's
By: Xucaen to Deavmi on Sat Apr 08 2017 01:34 pm

> What would you say attracts people to your BBS? I had 3 people in the last
> year log into mine.

Not many younger people even know what a BBS is these days.

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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Ed Vance to KK4QBN on Sat Apr 08 2017 04:12 pm

I think, Synchronet has a Listing of BBS's on their Wiki.
DoveNet, FIDO, Mystic, GT POWER and other BBS Networks may have BBS Lists. Maybe Wikipedia has some pages for those Networks that show BBS's?

Back in Dial-Up daze there was a Network in Louisville, Kentucky called D.I.S.K. that more than one person at a time could use via Dial-Up.

In the early 90's in the Salt Lake City, Ut area there was a BBS called the Graphics Connection that had 12 dial in nodes, the cost was $12 a year.
there were others also that had several call in nodes like Salt air ran by Fred Clark of Clark development company (makers of PCBoard).

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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Vk3jed to Xucaen on Sun Apr 09 2017 04:08 pm

I was attracted to messaging and community, the same things that attract me BBSs today. I find BBS communities are often close knit (I used to love sys meets, met some great people there), and even when I couldn't physically mee in person, there was a sense of community in those international echoes. I accept that I'll probably never have a sysop meet again, but the community i still there, at least the spirit lives on.

... Just because everything is different doesn't mean anything has changed.

I recall these days as well. I never attended these meetups (before they were called 'Meetups'), but I remember lurking and even posting on a few boards that had such communities. It was great because you could tell there was an actual community there where the bulk of the members knew eachother pretty well over time.
With how spread out the online world is today, it's really hard to recreate that.

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Chris wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I recall these days as well. I never attended these meetups (before
they were called 'Meetups'), but I remember lurking and even posting on
a few boards that had such communities. It was great because you could tell there was an actual community there where the bulk of the members knew eachother pretty well over time.

Yes, and in those days, you got to know your sysops personally, and if you were lucky, they might invite you over to check out their board physically, get to see what gear they were running and how they had it setup. Was always interesting to see what others did with their boards. :)

With how spread out the online world is today, it's really hard to recreate that.

Yes, that is much harder, though occasionally places like Facebook and meetup.com do provide conditions for local meetups of like minded people to occur.


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What would you say attracts people to your BBS? I had 3 people in the las
year log into mine.

Not many younger people even know what a BBS is these days.

Sad. but true. :(

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Re: Ac
By: Robert Wolfe to ROADHOG on Sun Apr 09 2017 08:06 am

Not many younger people even know what a BBS is these days.

Sad. but true. :(

A few years ago, I made a video (and posted it to YouTube) about what a BBS is, how people used to connect to them, and what a BBS looks like today. I shared the video in a newsgroup to see if I could get more views on it, and then I was attacked by someone for possibly posting spam (since I had rarely if ever posted in that newsgroup) and supposedly trying to attract traffic to a commercial web site. The guy also said something like "Why come in here and post something that everyone knows", and "So you admit to sharing a link to a web site" - Well no sh*t, it's a YouTube video..

Nightfox

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Nightfox wrote to Robert Wolfe <=-

Sad. but true. :(

A few years ago, I made a video (and posted it to YouTube) about what a BBS is, how people used to connect to them, and what a BBS looks like today. I shared the video in a newsgroup to see if I could get more
views on it, and then I was attacked by someone for possibly posting
spam (since I had rarely if ever posted in that newsgroup) and
supposedly trying to attract traffic to a commercial web site. The guy also said something like "Why come in here and post something that everyone knows", and "So you admit to sharing a link to a web site" -
Well no sh*t, it's a YouTube video..

Hmm, another selling point for BBSs, the average intelligence of BBS users is higher. ;)


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Re: Active BBS's
By: Nightfox to Robert Wolfe on Wed Apr 12 2017 01:11 pm

Sad. but true. :(

A few years ago, I made a video (and posted it to YouTube) about what a BBS is, how people used to connect to them, and what a BBS looks like today. I shared the video in a newsgroup to see if I could get more views on it, and then I was attacked by someone for possibly posting spam (since I had rarely if ever posted in that newsgroup) and supposedly trying to attract traffic

that house of lunduke asshole an article about bbses and wished he could find
a list of new bbses or some shit. i posted telnetbbsguide url in the comments and then he called me a spammer.

he's a dipshit podcaster, though.
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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Thu Apr 13 2017 08:10 am

everyone knows", and "So you admit to sharing a link to a web site" - Well no sh*t, it's a YouTube video..

Hmm, another selling point for BBSs, the average intelligence of BBS users is higher. ;)

i think it's the same. the only thing i will say about bbsers is a lot of them have some serious life problems.
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Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-

i think it's the same. the only thing i will say about bbsers is a lot
of them have some serious life problems.

Like any community, there's all sorts. :)


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Robert Wolfe wrote to ROADHOG <=-

@VIA: VERT/OTHETA

What would you say attracts people to your BBS? I had 3 people in the

as

year log into mine.

Not many younger people even know what a BBS is these days.

Sad. but true. :(

I'm trying to teach my 14 yo daughter about BBSing and networking. Even in the field, I find very few people understand routing. I love the format of the media. I always thought that the strenght of electronic communications was the content, not the glimmer. So very few websites have any content, it's all glimmer and click-bait.

Here, we have conversations. I don't interject much, but I do enjoy the engagement and social setting of the BBS and its users. It is an art form that we mustn't loose.

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Nightfox to Robert Wolfe on Wed Apr 12 2017 01:11 pm

that house of lunduke asshole an article about bbses and wished he could find a list of new bbses or some shit. i posted telnetbbsguide url in the comments and then he called me a spammer.

he's a dipshit podcaster, though.
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Re: Active BBS's
By: Deavmi to Mro on Thu Apr 13 2017 03:18 pm

that house of lunduke asshole an article about bbses and wished he could f a list of new bbses or some shit. i posted telnetbbsguide url in the comme and then he called me a spammer.

he's a dipshit podcaster, though.

Linux suks.

Oh, dude... Now you are asking for it... Let the flaming begin! :D

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Nightfox to Robert Wolfe on Wed Apr 12 2017 13:11:38

Re: Ac
By: Robert Wolfe to ROADHOG on Sun Apr 09 2017 08:06 am

Not many younger people even know what a BBS is these days.

Sad. but true. :(

A few years ago, I made a video (and posted it to YouTube) about what a BBS how people used to connect to them, and what a BBS looks like today. I shar the video in a newsgroup to see if I could get more views on it, and then I attacked by someone for possibly posting spam (since I had rarely if ever posted in that newsgroup) and supposedly trying to attract traffic to a commercial web site. The guy also said something like "Why come in here and post something that everyone knows", and "So you admit to sharing a link to web site" - Well no sh*t, it's a YouTube video..

Nightfox

lmao, did you tell him he won the Darwin Award ? Perhaps he wanted his small cozy place to remain private I guess. Well one lesson in that is always ask before you publish something I guess...

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Re: Active BBS's
By: jagossel to Deavmi on Thu Apr 13 2017 18:49:21

Re: Active BBS's
By: Deavmi to Mro on Thu Apr 13 2017 03:18 pm

that house of lunduke asshole an article about bbses and wished he coul a list of new bbses or some shit. i posted telnetbbsguide url in the co and then he called me a spammer.

he's a dipshit podcaster, though.

Linux suks.

Oh, dude... Now you are asking for it... Let the flaming begin! :D

-jag
Code it, script it, automate it!

pfff Windows is the best OS in the world. i mean look at MS how big they are. They are gods. they are perfect. Bow before you're lord
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Re: Active BBS's
By: Deavmi to Mro on Thu Apr 13 2017 03:18 pm

Re: Active BBS's
By: Nightfox to Robert Wolfe on Wed Apr 12 2017 01:11 pm

that house of lunduke asshole an article about bbses and wished he could find a list of new bbses or some shit. i posted telnetbbsguide url in the comments and then he called me a spammer.

he's a dipshit podcaster, though.

Linux suks.

yeah he did one that said that just to get video hits and it worked.
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A few years ago, I made a video (and posted it to YouTube) about what a BBS is, how people used to connect to them, and what a BBS looks like today. I shared the video in a newsgroup to see if I could get more views on it, and then I was attacked by someone for possibly posting spam (since I had rarely if ever posted in that newsgroup) and supposedly trying to attract traffic to a commercial web site. The guy also said something like "Why come in here and post something that everyone knows", and "So you admit to sharing a link to a web site" - Well no sh*t, it's a YouTube video..

Nightfox

I think using youtube/social media is a good idea. I've been messing around with reddit and created a /r/retrotucson sub which generates a little traffic to the BBS.

Also, was throwing around the idea, if any sysops would be interested, in making more /r/retro (yourcity) subs. From this, we could make a networked (standardized) retro community on reddit of retro "cities" with a link to your BBS on the side. This would help promote a general awareness of BBS's.

Reddit could be a good way of building a local community presence for your BBS.

Lith,
asirta.com

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I think using youtube/social media is a good idea. I've been messing around with reddit and created a /r/retrotucson sub which generates a little traffic to the BBS.

Also, was throwing around the idea, if any sysops would be interested, in making more /r/retro (yourcity) subs. From this, we could make a networked (standardized) retro community on reddit of retro "cities" with a link to your BBS on the side. This would help promote a general awareness of BBS's.

Reddit could be a good way of building a local community presence for your BBS.

Lith,
asirta.com

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Reddit sounds likr a good idea.

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Nightfox to Robert Wolfe on Wed Apr 12 2017 01:11 pm

Re: Ac
By: Robert Wolfe to ROADHOG on Sun Apr 09 2017 08:06 a

lol sry dude.z

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Bigbangnet to jagossel on Thu Apr 13 2017 08:29 pm

pfff Windows is the best OS in the world. i mean look at MS how big they are. They are gods. they are perfect. Bow before you're lord
*runs like hell like a wuss**

Oh yes. I mean, Linux is open-source, so anyone could go put a virus or other malware in it. And Windows is better since there is a small team of experts dedicated to maintaining it, which get paid to do so. (I actually had an interviewer say that to me during a job interview once.. and FYI, I disagree with that statement, I actually like Linux).

Nightfox

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Deavmi to Mro on Thu Apr 13 2017 03:18 pm

Linux suks.

Not true.
I run several game servers on Linux.
I doubt that I'll ever run Linux on Desktop or Laptop but as a server I love Linux.

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Deavmi to Mro on Thu Apr 13 2017 03:18 pm

Not true.
I run several game servers on Linux.
I doubt that I'll ever run Linux on Desktop or Laptop but as a server I love Linux.

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Nightfox to Bigbangnet on Fri Apr 14 2017 08:51 am

they are. They are gods. they are perfect. Bow before you're lord
*runs like hell like a wuss**

Oh yes. I mean, Linux is open-source, so anyone could go put a virus or other malware in it. And Windows is better since there is a small team of experts dedicated to maintaining it, which get paid to do so. (I actually had an interviewer say that to me during a job interview once.. and FYI, I disagree with that statement, I actually like Linux).

recently there has been more information about more than a few 'bugs' that were serious security issues that were added by contributers to linux and never checked. some were there for quite some time.
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Re: Active BBS's
By: Deavmi to Roadhog on Fri Apr 14 2017 03:48 pm

Not true.
I run several game servers on Linux.
I doubt that I'll ever run Linux on Desktop or Laptop but as a server I love Linux.

No. It is a show Bryun Lunduke does. No. Linux is THE best okay. Nothing beats it.

everything has its use. all operating systems have upsides and downsides. i'd never use any linux distro as a desktop.
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Roadhog wrote to Deavmi <=-

Linux suks.

Not true.
I run several game servers on Linux.
I doubt that I'll ever run Linux on Desktop or Laptop but as a server
I love Linux.

I'm a bit the same. All my servers (including the BBSs) run on Linux. It's just more efficient (no GUI for starters) and flexible in this role. I do like Windows as a desktop OS though. I have run Linux desktops in the past, but find Windows is just that little more "polished" in the UI department. I also like OS X.

Not to say I _wouldn't_ run a Linux desktop, just that if I did, it wouldn't be my only desktop.


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Re: Active BBS's
By: Deavmi to Roadhog on Fri Apr 14 2017 03:48 pm

Not true.
I run several game servers on Linux.
I doubt that I'll ever run Linux on Desktop or Laptop but as a server I love Linux.

Sarcasim noted :)

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everything has its use. all operating systems have upsides and downsides. i'd never use any linux distro as a desktop.

If Microsoft ends up going to a software-as-a-service model with Windows and starts charging a monthly/yearly fee to use Windows, as some people suspect, I've considered using Linux as my desktop OS (probably Mint Linux with the Cinnamon UI).

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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Vk3jed to Roadhog on Sat Apr 15 2017 08:35 am

I'm a bit the same. All my servers (including the BBSs) run on Linux. It's like Windows as a desktop OS though. I have run Linux desktops in the past, I also like OS X.
Not to say I _wouldn't_ run a Linux desktop, just that if I did, it wouldn't be my only desktop.

I add a GUI to all my Linux servers so I can VNC in.

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Roadhog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I add a GUI to all my Linux servers so I can VNC in.

For what purpose? I simply SSH in. :)


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For what purpose? I simply SSH in. :)

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I do both.

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Bigbangnet to jagossel on Thu Apr 13 2017 08:29 pm

Oh yes. I mean, Linux is open-source, so anyone could go put a virus or other malware in it. And Windows is better since there is a small team of experts dedicated to maintaining it, which get paid to do so. (I actually had an interviewer say that to me during a job interview once.. and FYI, I disagree with that statement, I actually like Linux).

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Anybody could put a virus in it? That's not how Git works. You can't just go and add code (you can but it wion't be accepted into the kernel or whatever).

Both platforms, like all, can get viruses.

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sat Apr 15 2017 12:00 am

everything has its use. all operating systems have upsides and downsides. i'd never use any linux distro as a desktop.

If Microsoft ends up going to a software-as-a-service model with Windows and starts charging a monthly/yearly fee to use Windows, as some people suspect,

that's just expected for exterprise versions and MS has said consumer versions wont have subscription fees.
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Re: Active BBS's
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sat Apr 15 2017 12:00 am

If Microsoft ends up going to a software-as-a-service model with Windows and starts charging a monthly/yearly fee to use Windows, as some people suspect, I've considered using Linux as my desktop OS (probably Mint Linux with the Cinnamon UI).

I'll just keep using windows 7.
If MicroShaft starts charging monthly/yearly fee's they will lose alot of their customer base, We are already sick of paying for an OS that needs to be constantly updated.

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Deavmi to Nightfox on Sat Apr 15 2017 10:32 am

Oh yes. I mean, Linux is open-source, so anyone could go put a virus
or other malware in it. And Windows is better since there is a small
team of experts dedicated to maintaining it, which get paid to do so.
(I actually had an interviewer say that to me during a job interview
once.. and FYI, I disagree with that statement, I actually like
Linux).

Anybody could put a virus in it? That's not how Git works. You can't just go and add code (you can but it wion't be accepted into the kernel or whatever).

Both platforms, like all, can get viruses.

I know. With Linux's popularity, I thought it was a little strange that someone wouldn't think that there is a review process for changes submitted to the OS.

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sat Apr 15 2017 10:47 am

If Microsoft ends up going to a software-as-a-service model with
Windows and starts charging a monthly/yearly fee to use Windows, as
some people suspect,

that's just expected for exterprise versions and MS has said consumer versions wont have subscription fees.

But do you believe everything Microsoft says?

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Denn Gray to Nightfox on Sat Apr 15 2017 08:26 am

If Microsoft ends up going to a software-as-a-service model with
Windows and starts charging a monthly/yearly fee to use Windows, as
some people suspect, I've considered using Linux as my desktop OS
(probably Mint Linux with the Cinnamon UI).

I'll just keep using windows 7.
If MicroShaft starts charging monthly/yearly fee's they will lose alot of their customer base, We are already sick of paying for an OS that needs to be constantly updated.

OS updates are generally a good thing though.. As new types of viruses and threats come out, it's good to have an OS that is updated to protect against them. And normally, the only Windows updates that we pay for are new major versions (Windows 7, Windows 10, etc.), which I think is to be expected. Microsoft normally provides security updates etc. for free, so I'm not quite sure I understand your complaint?

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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Vk3jed to Roadhog on Sat Apr 15 2017 10:26 pm

For what purpose? I simply SSH in. :)

I also can SSH in but I like a GUI and also I can stop and start my servers easier.

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Deavmi wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I do both.

Didn't answer the question, why do you need VNC? I find I can do everything I need through SSH. :)


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Denn Gray wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I also can SSH in but I like a GUI and also I can stop and start my servers easier.

service <service> start|stop is all I usually need, though I'm still running System V based distros, I haven't dealt with systemd yet.


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On 15/04/2017 00:35, Vk3jed wrote:

Roadhog wrote to Deavmi <=-

Linux suks.

Not true.
I run several game servers on Linux.
I doubt that I'll ever run Linux on Desktop or Laptop but as a server
I love Linux.

I'm a bit the same. All my servers (including the BBSs) run on Linux. It's just more efficient (no GUI for starters) and flexible in this role. I do like
Windows as a desktop OS though. I have run Linux desktops in the past, but find Windows is just that little more "polished" in the UI department. I also
like OS X.

Not to say I _wouldn't_ run a Linux desktop, just that if I did, it wouldn't be
my only desktop.

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GNOME is polished af.

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On 15/04/2017 14:26, Vk3jed wrote:

Roadhog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I add a GUI to all my Linux servers so I can VNC in.

For what purpose? I simply SSH in. :)

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I have gotten quite good with the terminal and I can do a lot from it.
There are still somethings that I will and cannot do from a terminal but
I still do love a nice console.

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On 16/04/2017 01:34, Vk3jed wrote:

Deavmi wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I do both.

Didn't answer the question, why do you need VNC? I find I can do everything I
need through SSH. :)

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Not that I have VNC'd into it. But for the VMs I use VNC so I can setup
the installation up.

Not VNC persay but the SPICE protocol.

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On 15/04/2017 18:04, Denn Gray wrote:

Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Vk3jed to Roadhog on Sat Apr 15 2017 10:26 pm

For what purpose? I simply SSH in. :)

I also can SSH in but I like a GUI and also I can stop and start my servers easier.

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`sudo shutdown now`?

`sudo systemctl restart [service]`
`sudo service restart [service]`

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On 16/04/2017 01:36, Vk3jed wrote:

Denn Gray wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I also can SSH in but I like a GUI and also I can stop and start my servers easier.

service <service> start|stop is all I usually need, though I'm still running System V based distros, I haven't dealt with systemd yet.

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Just `systemctl start/stop/restart` (I assume)

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sat Apr 15 2017 10:32 am

If Microsoft ends up going to a software-as-a-service model with
Windows and starts charging a monthly/yearly fee to use Windows, as
some people suspect,

that's just expected for exterprise versions and MS has said consumer versions wont have subscription fees.

But do you believe everything Microsoft says?

i dont consider them an evil corporation that lies.

it makes sense that they would charge a monthly subscription for
enterprise instead of a monthly subscription for home usage.

i wouldnt say they would do the opposite of what they have stated.
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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Vk3jed to Roadhog on Sat Apr 15 2017 10:26 pm

For what purpose? I simply SSH in. :)

I like a visual desktop, and vnc is easy to setup.

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sat Apr 15 2017 10:47 am

that's just expected for exterprise versions and MS has said consumer versions wont have subscription fees.

Not so sure I would trust what the Greedbags at Microsoft say lol.

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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Vk3jed to Deavmi on Sun Apr 16 2017 09:34 am

Didn't answer the question, why do you need VNC? I find I can do everything I need through SSH. :)

I can't remember how to get a GUI using SSH (Bitvise) I have been able to in the past but vnc is so much easier for me.

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Deavmi wrote to Vk3jed <=-

GNOME is polished af.

GNOME wasn't bad last time I used it. It's hard to put into words, but there are still subtle things Windows does better, that appear as "rough edges" on Linux desktops.


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Deavmi wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I have gotten quite good with the terminal and I can do a lot from it. There are still somethings that I will and cannot do from a terminal
but I still do love a nice console.

Like? I'm trying to remember the last time I needed a GUI on Linux for a routine admin task. :)


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Deavmi wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Not that I have VNC'd into it. But for the VMs I use VNC so I can setup the installation up.

Not VNC persay but the SPICE protocol.

Hmm, a VM is one place I've never run a GUI. Only time I've ever run X clients on a VM is remotely using X over SSH (worked OK) for an app/driver that (annoyingly) has a dependency on X and runs only with a GUI.


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Deavmi wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Just `systemctl start/stop/restart` (I assume)

Cool, assuming you're right. :)


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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Vk3jed to Deavmi on Mon Apr 17 2017 08:07 am

GNOME wasn't bad last time I used it. It's hard to put into words, but ther are still subtle things Windows does better, that appear as "rough edges" on Linux desktops.

Like, try to not look like iOS? That's why I am not a fan of GNOME 3, tries to look way too much like iOS.

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Roadhog to Mro on Sun Apr 16 2017 11:49 am

Re: Active BBS's
By: Mro to Nightfox on Sat Apr 15 2017 10:47 am

that's just expected for exterprise versions and MS has said consumer versions wont have subscription fees.

Not so sure I would trust what the Greedbags at Microsoft say lol.

i dont know why they'd lie about it. it's not a huge scandalous topic.
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Roadhog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

For what purpose? I simply SSH in. :)

I like a visual desktop, and vnc is easy to setup.

I just don't see the point of that overhead on a server. I'd rather be using those resources to run more services or get better performance. :) And if there's any lag in performance (for a VPS on the other side of the world, there will be, it's physics!), that makes the GUI slower to use, because I have to visually confirm where the mouse pointer is, before each click. With a command line, OTOH, I simply type the command from memory and the result takes however long it takes. :)

Each to their own, but text mode on a server does the trick for me. If, for some reason, I _really_ needed a GUI, either temporarily firing up VNC with its own X server, or using a web based management interface would be options to consider.

For a workstation, it goes without saying, you really do need a GUI these days. :)


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Roadhog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I can't remember how to get a GUI using SSH (Bitvise) I have been able
to in the past but vnc is so much easier for me.

My point was I don't feel the need to have a GUI on a server, that's overhead using resources I'd rather dedicate to providing services. :)


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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Vk3jed to Deavmi on Mon Apr 17 2017 08:07 am

GNOME is polished af.

GNOME wasn't bad last time I used it. It's hard to put into words, but there are still subtle things Windows does better, that appear as "rough edges" on Linux desktops.

Ubuntu is dropping unity and using gnome in its next release, and Gnome/Ubuntu flavor is getting merged. I still prefer Kubuntu.

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i dont know why they'd lie about it. it's not a huge scandalous topic.

It's not that it's a scandalous topic. It's not being sure how trustworthy Microsoft is.

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jagossel wrote to Vk3jed <=-

GNOME wasn't bad last time I used it. It's hard to put into words, but ther are still subtle things Windows does better, that appear as "rough edges" on Linux desktops.

Like, try to not look like iOS? That's why I am not a fan of GNOME 3, tries to look way too much like iOS.

No, it's just lots of little things that I noticed at the time.


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KK4QBN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Ubuntu is dropping unity and using gnome in its next release, and Gnome/Ubuntu flavor is getting merged. I still prefer Kubuntu.

I never used Unity, so I have no idea what it's like (never got round to using Ubuntu, that's why).


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On 17/04/2017 00:12, Vk3jed wrote:

Deavmi wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Not that I have VNC'd into it. But for the VMs I use VNC so I can setup the installation up.

Not VNC persay but the SPICE protocol.

Hmm, a VM is one place I've never run a GUI. Only time I've ever run X clients
on a VM is remotely using X over SSH (worked OK) for an app/driver that (annoyingly) has a dependency on X and runs only with a GUI.

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WHat I am saying is that I have remote access to the screen of the VM.
It is a console minimal install of debian but I can see like tty1 as I
would sitting infront of the machine. WHatever is running on tty1 that
is, in my case and for the remaining 5 ttys that's a console.

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On 17/04/2017 03:34, Vk3jed wrote:

Roadhog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I can't remember how to get a GUI using SSH (Bitvise) I have been able to in the past but vnc is so much easier for me.

My point was I don't feel the need to have a GUI on a server, that's overhead using resources I'd rather dedicate to providing services. :)

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That's true.

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On 17/04/2017 00:12, Vk3jed wrote:

Deavmi wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Just `systemctl start/stop/restart` (I assume)

Cool, assuming you're right. :)

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Me too.

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On 17/04/2017 03:32, Vk3jed wrote:

Roadhog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

For what purpose? I simply SSH in. :)

I like a visual desktop, and vnc is easy to setup.

I just don't see the point of that overhead on a server. I'd rather be using those resources to run more services or get better performance. :) And if there's any lag in performance (for a VPS on the other side of the world, there
will be, it's physics!), that makes the GUI slower to use, because I have to visually confirm where the mouse pointer is, before each click. With a command
line, OTOH, I simply type the command from memory and the result takes however
long it takes. :)

Each to their own, but text mode on a server does the trick for me. If, for some reason, I _really_ needed a GUI, either temporarily firing up VNC with its
own X server, or using a web based management interface would be options to consider.

For a workstation, it goes without saying, you really do need a GUI these days.
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I would like to try a machine that is just a console. I have always
wanted to setup a machine like that because first of all you can always
get a small desktop like `awesome`.

This is my ideal setup:

1. System always boots into console mode
2. Startx is just a type away

And this is all possible. Infact I'd probably go with lxde rather than `awesome` (those tilling desktop environments get me in a bad way).

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On 17/04/2017 00:07, Vk3jed wrote:

Deavmi wrote to Vk3jed <=-

GNOME is polished af.

GNOME wasn't bad last time I used it. It's hard to put into words, but there are still subtle things Windows does better, that appear as "rough edges" on Linux desktops.

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Windows is like the holy grail of a perfect desktop environment.

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On 17/04/2017 00:07, Vk3jed wrote:

Deavmi wrote to Vk3jed <=-

GNOME is polished af.

GNOME wasn't bad last time I used it. It's hard to put into words, but there are still subtle things Windows does better, that appear as "rough edges" on Linux desktops.

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But there are things one can do to improve GNOME like with the `GNOME
Tweak tool` although I haven't tested it fully.

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On 17/04/2017 02:40, jagossel wrote:

Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Vk3jed to Deavmi on Mon Apr 17 2017 08:07 am

GNOME wasn't bad last time I used it. It's hard to put into words, but ther
are still subtle things Windows does better, that appear as "rough edges" on
Linux desktops.

Like, try to not look like iOS? That's why I am not a fan of GNOME 3, tries to
look way too much like iOS.

-jag
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I like it quite a lot. It's more mac like and that ain't bad (the dock
is hidden which I like though).

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On 17/04/2017 04:21, KK4QBN wrote:

Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Vk3jed to Deavmi on Mon Apr 17 2017 08:07 am

GNOME is polished af.

GNOME wasn't bad last time I used it. It's hard to put into words, but there are still subtle things Windows does better, that appear as "rough edges" on Linux desktops.

Ubuntu is dropping unity and using gnome in its next release, and Gnome/Ubuntu
flavor is getting merged. I still prefer Kubuntu.

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Nice, GNOME Ubuntu is getting merged. I was hoping a mergwe would occur
and cononical wouldn't do their own thing.

I am happy and sad. The early versions of Unity were great I liked them,
like when it was first introduced I guess (the early days). But I am
happy to see a change to GNOME, maybe they won't add in their spyware
and annoying amazon links.

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On 14/04/2017 02:25, Bigbangnet wrote:

Re: Active BBS's
By: Nightfox to Robert Wolfe on Wed Apr 12 2017 13:11:38

Re: Ac
By: Robert Wolfe to ROADHOG on Sun Apr 09 2017 08:06 am

Not many younger people even know what a BBS is these days.

Sad. but true. :(

A few years ago, I made a video (and posted it to YouTube) about what a BBS
how people used to connect to them, and what a BBS looks like today. I shar
the video in a newsgroup to see if I could get more views on it, and then I
attacked by someone for possibly posting spam (since I had rarely if ever posted in that newsgroup) and supposedly trying to attract traffic to a commercial web site. The guy also said something like "Why come in here and
post something that everyone knows", and "So you admit to sharing a link to
web site" - Well no sh*t, it's a YouTube video..

Nightfox

lmao, did you tell him he won the Darwin Award ? Perhaps he wanted his small cozy place to remain private I guess. Well one lesson in that is always ask before you publish something I guess...

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Nah man. I don't need no permission to make a video. These Usenet people
are befok ("fucked up" Afrikaans). They are too attached to their once
sacred (bloody hell) grounds.

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On 14/04/2017 05:21, Lith wrote:

A few years ago, I made a video (and posted it to YouTube) about what a BBS >> is, how people used to connect to them, and what a BBS looks like today. I >> shared the video in a newsgroup to see if I could get more views on it, and >> then I was attacked by someone for possibly posting spam (since I had rarely >> if ever posted in that newsgroup) and supposedly trying to attract traffic to
a commercial web site. The guy also said something like "Why come in here >> and post something that everyone knows", and "So you admit to sharing a link >> to a web site" - Well no sh*t, it's a YouTube video..

Nightfox

I think using youtube/social media is a good idea. I've been messing around with reddit and created a /r/retrotucson sub which generates a little traffic to the BBS.

Also, was throwing around the idea, if any sysops would be interested, in making more /r/retro (yourcity) subs. From this, we could make a networked (standardized) retro community on reddit of retro "cities" with a link to your
BBS on the side. This would help promote a general awareness of BBS's.

Reddit could be a good way of building a local community presence for your BBS.

Lith,
asirta.com

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SO who is going to create it? I could and then make you guys ops.

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On 17/04/2017 09:32, Vk3jed wrote:

jagossel wrote to Vk3jed <=-

GNOME wasn't bad last time I used it. It's hard to put into words, but ther
are still subtle things Windows does better, that appear as "rough edges" on
Linux desktops.

Like, try to not look like iOS? That's why I am not a fan of GNOME 3, tries to look way too much like iOS.

No, it's just lots of little things that I noticed at the time.

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Guess so. It does have a mac feel (which I have come to like). You know, having the bar at the top. I like having that there.

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On 17/04/2017 09:33, Vk3jed wrote:

KK4QBN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Ubuntu is dropping unity and using gnome in its next release, and Gnome/Ubuntu flavor is getting merged. I still prefer Kubuntu.

I never used Unity, so I have no idea what it's like (never got round to using
Ubuntu, that's why).

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It was pretty nice. I liked it a lot. I red an article on ZDNet about
the change in Ubuntu desktop and I recall a person stating he found
Unity the most productive desktop environment and I can identify with
that. It was truly great.

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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Deavmi to Vk3jed on Mon Apr 17 2017 03:50 pm

It was pretty nice. I liked it a lot. I red an article on ZDNet about
the change in Ubuntu desktop and I recall a person stating he found
Unity the most productive desktop environment and I can identify with
that. It was truly great.

I used the Unity Desktop up until Ubuntu 14.04 was released.
anymore I just fire my VPS's up with LXDE and install wine so I can run MS applications without paying alot of extra money to run a Windows Server VPS.
I pay $2.50 a month for 512MB ram and 20GB SSD LXDE works great on that config

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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Deavmi to Vk3jed on Mon Apr 17 2017 03:50 pm

It was pretty nice. I liked it a lot. I red an article on ZDNet about
the change in Ubuntu desktop and I recall a person stating he found
Unity the most productive desktop environment and I can identify with that. It was truly great.

For me, it was ok... I still love my KDE/Plasma.. If I were to migrate to another GUI, maybe mate or budgie.

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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Vk3jed to Roadhog on Mon Apr 17 2017 11:32 am

Roadhog wrote to Vk3jed <=-

For what purpose? I simply SSH in. :)

I like a visual desktop, and vnc is easy to setup.

I just don't see the point of that overhead on a server. I'd rather be using those resources to run more services or get better performance. :)
And if there's any lag in performance (for a VPS on the other side of the

maybe he isnt running it as a server?
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Re: Active BBS's
By: Nightfox to Mro on Sun Apr 16 2017 07:29 pm

i dont know why they'd lie about it. it's not a huge scandalous topic.

It's not that it's a scandalous topic. It's not being sure how trustworthy Microsoft is.

yeah but you dont have to assume things that arent true.
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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Deavmi to Bigbangnet on Mon Apr 17 2017 12:19 pm

Nah man. I don't need no permission to make a video. These Usenet people are befok ("fucked up" Afrikaans). They are too attached to their once sacred (bloody hell) grounds.

hm... reminds me of some other people with a certain hobby
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Re: Active BBS's
By: Mro to Nightfox on Mon Apr 17 2017 08:15 pm

It's not that it's a scandalous topic. It's not being sure how
trustworthy Microsoft is.

yeah but you dont have to assume things that arent true.

I haven't made any assumptions.. It was all speculation and rumors right now about Microsoft possibly charging a monthly/yearly fee to continue using Windows, but naturally that can't be assumed to be true right now..

Nightfox

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Deavmi wrote to Vk3jed <=-

WHat I am saying is that I have remote access to the screen of the VM.
It is a console minimal install of debian but I can see like tty1 as I would sitting infront of the machine. WHatever is running on tty1 that
is, in my case and for the remaining 5 ttys that's a console.

Ahh OK, now that could be very useful. I have had that from some VPS providers, where I could SSH into the console, if the VPS wasn't responding to the network. What do you need to be able to do that?


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Deavmi wrote to Vk3jed <=-

I would like to try a machine that is just a console. I have always
wanted to setup a machine like that because first of all you can always get a small desktop like `awesome`.

This is my ideal setup:

1. System always boots into console mode
2. Startx is just a type away

Yep, easy done. I do have a couple of netbooks setup line that. One is a "podcast recorder", it simply records audio from an attached tuner and also captures Internet streams from online stations at set times of the day/week. Normally don't need a GUI, but occasionally, I need to get on and do things that a GUI makes more efficient, so I can simply fire up X for those periods I need the GUI and shut it down when I'm done. Has been over a year since I last did that.

The other netbook is used for broadcasting. It contains my music collection, and I normally use a command line player (mplayer) to play tracks on air. Much easier than juggling CDs. :) While I can run it without a GUI, I do usually use a GUI on this machine, because it's easier to manage that way, and I can also use a GUI player to search for tracks and setup playlists to be automatically played by mplayer.

And this is all possible. Infact I'd probably go with lxde rather than `awesome` (those tilling desktop environments get me in a bad way).

I see. I'm way out of touch with window manager and desktop options. :)


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Deavmi wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Windows is like the holy grail of a perfect desktop environment.

Seems to be for developers. But in reality, Windows has some odd focus shifts when background processes kick off, which can be highly annoying.


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Deavmi wrote to Vk3jed <=-

But there are things one can do to improve GNOME like with the `GNOME Tweak tool` although I haven't tested it fully.

I haven't found that one yet.


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Deavmi wrote to Vk3jed <=-

Guess so. It does have a mac feel (which I have come to like). You
know, having the bar at the top. I like having that there.

Yes, that I do like, and I also like the Mac environment, having previously owned a Mac. My issues were more subtle to do with management, things just didn't seem to "plug together" as well as Windows or Mac. Really hard to put a finger on it, until I have an example in front of me.


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Deavmi wrote to Vk3jed <=-

It was pretty nice. I liked it a lot. I red an article on ZDNet about
the change in Ubuntu desktop and I recall a person stating he found
Unity the most productive desktop environment and I can identify with that. It was truly great.

Cool, sounds like it was good.


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Re: Active BBS's
By: Nightfox to Mro on Mon Apr 17 2017 06:53 pm

yeah but you dont have to assume things that arent true.

I haven't made any assumptions.. It was all speculation and rumors right now about Microsoft possibly charging a monthly/yearly fee to continue using Windows, but naturally that can't be assumed to be true right now..

they made an annoucement that enterprise models would be subscription.

"This new subscription model is not associated with our current upgrade offering or applicable to the Windows 10 consumer edition," a Microsoft spokesperson told PC World.
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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Mro to Deavmi on Mon Apr 17 2017 09:48 pm

Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Deavmi to Bigbangnet on Mon Apr 17 2017 12:19 pm

Nah man. I don't need no permission to make a video. These Usenet
people are befok ("fucked up" Afrikaans). They are too attached to
their once sacred (bloody hell) grounds.

hm... reminds me of some other people with a certain hobby

2 for me...

(1) Amateur Radio
(2) RC Flight (the old farts would run us of the field if we had multirotors,
I purchased a membershing JUST to tell the, to FUCK OFF.

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ROADHOG wrote to XUCAEN <=-

Are you saying it is possible for people logged into other SBBS systems to interact with each other in real time? How would I set this up?

Synchronet has a built in irc channel I have seen as many as 20 or so people there at one time.

Not a BBS thing, but I've been using SLACK to run my PBEM games. I've heard podcasters talk about using it as their back channel. Someone even mentioned using it as an IRC type channel.


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VK3JED wrote to XUCAEN <=-

Xucaen wrote to Deavmi <=-

I had been working on an original door game. My hope was that people
would would play it and give feedback, and perhaps we'd build a
community around it. But that didn't happen and I kind of lost hope for the game.

I guess it depends on the people. A door game wouldn't attract me, for instance.

Same here. Believe it or not I got back into BBS's because I was looking to play Global War. When I couldn't find regular games I gave up on that, but
I LOVE the messaging and community, as you say below!

I was never a game player, other than the occasional dabble
with BRE on one of the boards I used to call, but I'm not a gamer by
any stretch of the imagination, whether door games or more modern video games.

I've been playing on boardgamearena.com lately. It's not video games, but
is board games implemented on a free website. :-)

I was attracted to messaging and community, the same things that
attract me to BBSs today. I find BBS communities are often close knit
(I used to love sysop meets, met some great people there), and even
when I couldn't physically meet in person, there was a sense of
community in those international echoes. I accept that I'll probably never have a sysop meet again, but the community is still there, at
least the spirit lives on.

Maybe a virtual meet up? Is that possible?


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DENN GRAY wrote to ED VANCE <=-

By: Ed Vance to KK4QBN on Sat Apr 08 2017 04:12 pm

Back in Dial-Up daze there was a Network in Louisville, Kentucky called D.I.S.K. that more than one person at a time could use via Dial-Up.

In the early 90's in the Salt Lake City, Ut area there was a BBS called the Graphics Connection that had 12 dial in nodes, the cost was $12 a year. there were others also that had several call in nodes like Salt
air ran by Fred Clark of Clark development company (makers of PCBoard).

I lived just outside Jackson, TN in the heyday. Virtual Dimension was one
of about six boards in town. All the others had 1 node each - VirtDim had
three - then The Fridge came along - TEN NODES! We had some 'parties' back
in the day - LOL.


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Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-

maybe he isnt running it as a server?

The original discussion was about using Linux as servers, and remotely managing them.


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Re: Active BBS's
By: Nightfox to Mro on Mon Apr 17 2017 06:53 pm

I haven't made any assumptions.. It was all speculation and rumors right no about Microsoft possibly charging a monthly/yearly fee to continue using Windows, but naturally that can't be assumed to be true right now..

I think the only programs that will be monthly/yearly subscription based are programs that can be run from the cloud like office.

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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-

Same here. Believe it or not I got back into BBS's because I was
looking to play Global War. When I couldn't find regular games I gave
up on that, but I LOVE the messaging and community, as you say below!

Yeah, I've never been a gamer on any platform, my version of "playing games" is called "sport"

I've been playing on boardgamearena.com lately. It's not video games,
but is board games implemented on a free website. :-)

Cool. Years ago, there used to be a free Scrabble game that could be played over a network, and it would even work over the Internet. That was a bit of fun, I'd admit. Something to play on the side, while chatting on IRC. :)

Maybe a virtual meet up? Is that possible?

In theory, yes. In practice, time zones and individual schedules (for example, I have little free time suitable for voice or video) could make it a challenge.


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Re: Active BBS's
By: Denn Gray to Nightfox on Tue Apr 18 2017 07:30:31

Re: Active BBS's
By: Nightfox to Mro on Mon Apr 17 2017 06:53 pm

I haven't made any assumptions.. It was all speculation and rumors right about Microsoft possibly charging a monthly/yearly fee to continue using Windows, but naturally that can't be assumed to be true right now..

I think the only programs that will be monthly/yearly subscription based are programs that can be run from the cloud like office.

Already happening with their Office products. Now its office 365 and I have a feeling thats the only thing they want to support instead of Office 2016. I'm telling this cause I work as a tech in a pc store and I barely have any support, info or products office 2016 now. its all about 365...which I hate with all my life. a yearly sub for their product. Makes me think of adobe and their crap marketing with their yearly sub as well.

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NIGHTFOX wrote to Robert Wolfe <=-

A few years ago, I made a video (and posted it to YouTube) about what a BBS is, how people used to connect to them, and what a BBS looks like today. I shared the video in a newsgroup to see if I could get more
views on it, and then I was attacked by someone for possibly posting
spam (since I had rarely if ever posted in that newsgroup) and
supposedly trying to attract traffic to a commercial web site. The guy also said something like "Why come in here and post something that everyone knows", and "So you admit to sharing a link to a web site" -
Well no sh*t, it's a YouTube video..

wow - at least you made an effort though!





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VK3JED wrote to NIGHTFOX <=-

Hmm, another selling point for BBSs, the average intelligence of BBS
users is higher. ;)

LOL - I think of BBS's as compared to 'the Internet' just like
it was in the early days of Geocaching. Yes, it's nice that it's
'on your phone' but there was something to be said for having
to use a handheld GPS - add waypoints - log onto the website
once you're back off the road, etc.

And yes, there was a modicum of intelligence required. :-)

I still remember making my own cable to be able to send
waypoints to our Yellow Garmin (what we called our handheld).





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JAZZY_J wrote to Robert Wolfe <=-

I always thought that the strenght of
electronic communications was the content, not the glimmer. So very
few websites have any content, it's all glimmer and click-bait.

Very much agreed! I play some games online - mostly at boardgamearena.com -
but I come HERE for the conversation!

Here, we have conversations. I don't interject much, but I do enjoy
the engagement and social setting of the BBS and its users. It is an
art form that we mustn't loose.

Also agreed! This has actually prompted me to think about sending an
actual LETTER in the mail too! :-)





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NIGHTFOX wrote to BIGBANGNET <=-

Oh yes. I mean, Linux is open-source, so anyone could go put a virus
or other malware in it. And Windows is better since there is a small
team of experts dedicated to maintaining it, which get paid to do so.
(I actually had an interviewer say that to me during a job interview once.. and FYI, I disagree with that statement, I actually like
Linux).

LOL - wow

And I'm a Mac guy, myself, but I like Linux as well.

What I'm doing at work (public school system) is taking older
Windoze units that have been donated and loading Cloud Ready
on them - makes them UNmanaged Chrome Boxes - works like a
charm!





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DEAVMI wrote to JAGOSSEL <=-

I like it quite a lot. It's more mac like and that ain't bad (the dock
is hidden which I like though).

You can hid the Dock in Mac too, FYI. :-)




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Re: Active BBS's
By: Bigbangnet to Denn Gray on Tue Apr 18 2017 08:31 pm

Already happening with their Office products. Now its office 365 and I have a feeling thats the only thing they want to support instead of Office 2016. I'm telling this cause I work as a tech in a pc store and I barely have any support, info or products office 2016 now. its all about 365...which I hate with all my life. a yearly sub for their product. Makes me think of adobe and their crap marketing with their yearly sub as well.

I don't like it either. And if it's all online, then it won't work if you're on a laptop somewhere without an internet connection (on an airplane traveling somewhere would probably be the most common situation).

Nightfox

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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-

LOL - I think of BBS's as compared to 'the Internet' just like
it was in the early days of Geocaching. Yes, it's nice that it's
'on your phone' but there was something to be said for having
to use a handheld GPS - add waypoints - log onto the website
once you're back off the road, etc.

Yep, like driving a manual compared to an auto, you feel more like you're really driving the car. :)

And yes, there was a modicum of intelligence required. :-)

Indeed! :) I found my first cache from clues and local knowledge, no GPS required. :D

I still remember making my own cable to be able to send
waypoints to our Yellow Garmin (what we called our handheld).

I've got a yellow Garmin, I wonder if it's the same. :)


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Bigbangnet wrote to jagossel <=-

pfff Windows is the best OS in the world. i mean look at MS how big
they are. They are gods. they are perfect. Bow before you're lord
*runs like hell like a wuss**

The best feature of Windows 10 is the BASH shell because it gives you an easy way to ssh into your *nix boxes.
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Roadhog wrote to Deavmi <=-

Not true.
I run several game servers on Linux.
I doubt that I'll ever run Linux on Desktop or Laptop but as a server
I love Linux.

I use it to repurpose old Desktops/Laptops. I'll put xfce or another lightweight desktop on it and put them into action.
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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Jazzy_J to Bigbangnet on Tue Apr 18 2017 07:36 am

The best feature of Windows 10 is the BASH shell because it gives you an easy way to ssh into your *nix boxes.

There are SSH clients you can install for Windows that were available long before Windows 10.

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Nightfox to Bigbangnet on Tue Apr 18 2017 07:12 pm

I don't like it either. And if it's all online, then it won't work if you're on a laptop somewhere without an internet connection (on an airplane traveling somewhere would probably be the most common situation).

Thats why I use Libre Office, it does what I need it to do and I don't pay MS a dime.

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Re: Active BBS's
By: Denn Gray to Nightfox on Wed Apr 19 2017 09:37 am

I don't like it either. And if it's all online, then it won't work if
you're on a laptop somewhere without an internet connection (on an
airplane traveling somewhere would probably be the most common
situation).

Thats why I use Libre Office, it does what I need it to do and I don't pay MS a dime.

That's true. I've installed Libre Office on a couple peoples' computers for them when they've needed an office suite for something.

Nightfox

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Denn Gray wrote to Nightfox <=-

Thats why I use Libre Office, it does what I need it to do and I don't
pay MS a dime.

I used to do that, but have run into documents that I need to edit that will only format correctly in MS Office, so I went down the Office 365 route.


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Nightfox wrote to Denn Gray <=-

That's true. I've installed Libre Office on a couple peoples'
computers for them when they've needed an office suite for something.

Yeah, probably good for 95% of the population. I couple of years ago, I became one of the other 5% when I encountered documents that only MS Office could format correctly. Prior to that, any of the Office alternatives were perfectly fine. Ended up biting the bullet and subscribing to Office 365.


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VK3JED wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

I've been playing on boardgamearena.com lately. It's not video games,
but is board games implemented on a free website. :-)

Cool. Years ago, there used to be a free Scrabble game that could be played over a network, and it would even work over the Internet. That
was a bit of fun, I'd admit. Something to play on the side, while chatting on IRC. :)

I'm playing Stone Age on there, but also have several games of
Backgammon going at once. :-) (turn based - kinda like play by
mail)

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VK3JED wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

LOL - I think of BBS's as compared to 'the Internet' just like
it was in the early days of Geocaching. Yes, it's nice that it's
'on your phone' but there was something to be said for having
to use a handheld GPS - add waypoints - log onto the website
once you're back off the road, etc.

Yep, like driving a manual compared to an auto, you feel more like
you're really driving the car. :)

Hmm... Haven't thought of it that way, but yeah! That makes
sense too!

And yes, there was a modicum of intelligence required. :-)

Indeed! :) I found my first cache from clues and local knowledge, no
GPS required. :D

That's cool!

I still remember making my own cable to be able to send
waypoints to our Yellow Garmin (what we called our handheld).

I've got a yellow Garmin, I wonder if it's the same. :)

eTrex - the old style - https://www.amazon.com/Garmin-eTrex-Waterproof-Hiking-GPS/dp/B00003WGP5



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NIGHTFOX wrote to DENN GRAY <=-

I don't like it either. And if it's all online, then it won't work if
you're on a laptop somewhere without an internet connection (on an
airplane traveling somewhere would probably be the most common
situation).

Thats why I use Libre Office, it does what I need it to do and I don't pay MS a dime.

That's true. I've installed Libre Office on a couple peoples'
computers for them when they've needed an office suite for something.

We are a GAFE customer, but we also load OpenOffice on all machines.

Teachers get Office and OpenOffice - students get OpenOffice only.

Again, though, we recommend Google Drive & Google Docs, etc.



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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-

I'm playing Stone Age on there, but also have several games of
Backgammon going at once. :-) (turn based - kinda like play by
mail)

Interesting. I haven't played Backgammon for many years.

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Goes without saying. :)


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Yeah, probably good for 95% of the population. I couple of years ago, I became
one of the other 5% when I encountered documents that only MS Office could >format correctly. Prior to that, any of the Office alternatives were perfectly
fine. Ended up biting the bullet and subscribing to Office 365.

Seems like I have run into the opposite... it used to be that I had to have a Win partition just for using office for, but now most everything I try to
open in LibreOffice works.

That could be because I rarely open documents on my home machine now that I
did not create myself. :)

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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-

Yep, like driving a manual compared to an auto, you feel more like
you're really driving the car. :)

Hmm... Haven't thought of it that way, but yeah! That makes
sense too!

Yeah, works for me (and I drive a manual too).

And yes, there was a modicum of intelligence required. :-)

Indeed! :) I found my first cache from clues and local knowledge, no
GPS required. :D

That's cool!

:)

eTrex - the old style - https://www.amazon.com/Garmin-eTrex-Waterproof-Hiking-GPS/dp/B00003WGP5

Mine's the newer style.


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Dumas Walker wrote to VK3JED <=-

fine. Ended up biting the bullet and subscribing to Office 365.

Seems like I have run into the opposite... it used to be that I had to have a Win partition just for using office for, but now most everything
I try to open in LibreOffice works.

That could be because I rarely open documents on my home machine now
that I did not create myself. :)

Yeah, I was surprised, but it's an old document that no doubt has seen many versions of Word. :)


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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Vk3jed to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Apr 21 2017 06:22 am

... Old immortals don't die, they just... don't.

Goes without saying. :)

Jason from Friday the 13th: "I don't always die, but when I do, I don't."

Nightfox

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Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

... Old immortals don't die, they just... don't.

Goes without saying. :)

Jason from Friday the 13th: "I don't always die, but when I do, I
don't."

:-)


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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to NIGHTFOX on Thu Apr 20 2017 09:22 am

Again, though, we recommend Google Drive & Google Docs, etc.

hello, former paying customer of google drive here.

google drive sucks!
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Mro wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

hello, former paying customer of google drive here.

google drive sucks!

Why? (other than the obvious issues of a big corporation with your data, etc).


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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Mro to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sat Apr 22 2017 02:57 am

hello, former paying customer of google drive here.

google drive sucks!

I have a Nighthawk x6 router that has a 3.0 USB and a 2.0 USB
I have a 1TB USB hard drive pluged into the 2.0 USB and use it as a home cloud drive.

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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Denn Gray to Mro on Sat Apr 22 2017 09:00 am

Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Mro to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sat Apr 22 2017 02:57 am

hello, former paying customer of google drive here.

google drive sucks!

I have a Nighthawk x6 router that has a 3.0 USB and a 2.0 USB
I have a 1TB USB hard drive pluged into the 2.0 USB and use it as a home cloud drive.

i have a 100 dollar dobo clone from amazon and it's wonderful.
but i think the point is , put it in the cloud so you have it when it's gone at home. the thing is, you cant depend on the cloud.
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Reddit could be a good way of building a local community presence for your BBS.

SO who is going to create it? I could and then make you guys ops.

Each person who runs a BBS would create their own /r/retroyourcity subreddit. There are reddit css templates you can upload to make it look customized and everything.

I can create the retro city community. Once created, you would just join the community.

Lith,

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Nightfox wrote to Jazzy_J <=-

The best feature of Windows 10 is the BASH shell because it gives you an easy way to ssh into your *nix boxes.

There are SSH clients you can install for Windows that were available
long before Windows 10.

I know, but they were not native. I do have to say, after playing with the bash shell of Win10 a bit more. Putty is still more functional. While the built-in bash shell in Win10 has the cool factor... Putty still rules.

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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Jazzy_J to Nightfox on Thu May 25 2017 09:48 pm

There are SSH clients you can install for Windows that were available long before Windows 10.

I know, but they were not native. I do have to say, after playing with the bash shell of Win10 a bit more. Putty is still more functional. While the built-in bash shell in Win10 has the cool factor... Putty still rules.

check out bitvise tunneler
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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Mro to Jazzy_J on Fri May 26 2017 12:12 am

I know, but they were not native. I do have to say, after playing with the bash shell of Win10 a bit more. Putty is still more functional. While the built-in bash shell in Win10 has the cool factor... Putty still rules.

check out bitvise tunneler

I love bitvise, Use it all the time for my VPS's

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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Denn Gray to Mro on Fri May 26 2017 12:38 pm

Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: Mro to Jazzy_J on Fri May 26 2017 12:12 am

I know, but they were not native. I do have to say, after playing with the bash shell of Win10 a bit more. Putty is still more functional. While the built-in bash shell in Win10 has the cool factor... Putty still rules.

check out bitvise tunneler

I love bitvise, Use it all the time for my VPS's

yup, me too. i like how it saves the pw. i manage a lot of linux boxes.
i use putty for ssh tunnels, though.
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VK3JED wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-

I'm playing Stone Age on there, but also have several games of
Backgammon going at once. :-) (turn based - kinda like play by
mail)

Interesting. I haven't played Backgammon for many years.

Look me up! I'm jimmylogan there




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VK3JED wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

eTrex - the old style - https://www.amazon.com/Garmin-eTrex-Waterproof-Hiking-GPS/dp/B00003WGP5

Mine's the newer style.

Cool - I just use my iPhone now. :-)




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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-

Look me up! I'm jimmylogan there

Forgotten where, been too long lol. :)


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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-

Cool - I just use my iPhone now. :-)

Too heavy and bulky for us sprinters (flinging a $1k iphone into the ground at high speed is not a good look! :D ), and also doesn't have the longevity to last through 3+ hours of training. :D


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Tony,

Forgotten where, been too long lol. :)

Three things fail when one gets older. The first is memory... ... ...

Darn!! I forgot the other two!! <G>

Daryl

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Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-

Three things fail when one gets older. The first is memory... ... ...

Darn!! I forgot the other two!! <G>

ROFLMAO


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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to NIGHTFOX on Tue Apr 18 2017 08:49 am

NIGHTFOX wrote to BIGBANGNET <=-

Oh yes. I mean, Linux is open-source, so anyone could go put a virus or other malware in it. And Windows is better since there is a small team of experts dedicated to maintaining it, which get paid to do so. (I actually had an interviewer say that to me during a job interview once.. and FYI, I disagree with that statement, I actually like Linux).

LOL - wow

And I'm a Mac guy, myself, but I like Linux as well.

What I'm doing at work (public school system) is taking older
Windoze units that have been donated and loading Cloud Ready
on them - makes them UNmanaged Chrome Boxes - works like a
charm!

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Same here. :-) It was probably boardgamearena.com
but I use that name for as much as I can. :-)

VK3JED wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-

Look me up! I'm jimmylogan there

Forgotten where, been too long lol. :)

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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-

Same here. :-) It was probably boardgamearena.com
but I use that name for as much as I can. :-)

Ahh, OK, it pays to have complete context. :D


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VK3JED wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-

Same here. :-) It was probably boardgamearena.com
but I use that name for as much as I can. :-)

Ahh, OK, it pays to have complete context. :D

Yep! And if you pop in, send me a friend request. Same username
on STEAM. Been playing (and creating some mods for) Tabletop
Simulator a lot lately! :-)

... ALWAYS tell the truth - Unless something better is handy.

Love it. :-)



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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-

Same here. :-) It was probably boardgamearena.com
but I use that name for as much as I can. :-)

Ahh, OK, it pays to have complete context. :D

Yep! And if you pop in, send me a friend request. Same username
on STEAM. Been playing (and creating some mods for) Tabletop
Simulator a lot lately! :-)

Not the sort of places I hang out, I'm not a gamer. :) I do know Steam, but only because kids I work with are into it. :)

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No need to bother then. :P


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VK3JED wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

Same here. :-) It was probably boardgamearena.com
but I use that name for as much as I can. :-)

Ahh, OK, it pays to have complete context. :D

Yep! And if you pop in, send me a friend request. Same username
on STEAM. Been playing (and creating some mods for) Tabletop
Simulator a lot lately! :-)

Not the sort of places I hang out, I'm not a gamer. :) I do know
Steam, but only because kids I work with are into it. :)

I don't consider myself a video gamer. I did buy an xBox One
to be able to play with my kids, but I'm more of a tabletop
person - board games, x-wing miniatures game, RPG's, etc.





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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-

I don't consider myself a video gamer. I did buy an xBox One
to be able to play with my kids, but I'm more of a tabletop
person - board games, x-wing miniatures game, RPG's, etc.

I'm neither, prefer something more physical. :)


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VK3JED wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

I don't consider myself a video gamer. I did buy an xBox One
to be able to play with my kids, but I'm more of a tabletop
person - board games, x-wing miniatures game, RPG's, etc.

I'm neither, prefer something more physical. :)

Board games are physically THERE. :-) And you have the face
to face social interaction.




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JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VK3JED <=-

Board games are physically THERE. :-) And you have the face
to face social interaction.

True, but they still involve too much sitting around for my liking. :D


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Re: Re: Active BBS's
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to VK3JED on Mon Aug 07 2017 10:22 am

Board games are physically THERE. :-) And you have the face
to face social interaction.

The image of people seated around a table, with laptops playing online poker with each other has been repeated in media, I'm sure it has a basis in real life.

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