• quiet

    From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to All on Wed Jan 10 10:13:19 2018
    Feel quiet here? your all busy ?

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  • From Scott Comstock@VERT/ATVCHRN to Ennev on Wed Jan 10 12:38:12 2018
    Re: quiet
    By: Ennev to All on Wed Jan 10 2018 10:13 am

    Feel quiet here? your all busy ?

    Not particularly...
    -Scott

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  • From Elaek@VERT/CPUGOD to All on Wed Jan 10 13:59:37 2018
    Feel quiet here?

    Yeah ive been feeling since christmas the frequnecy of posts has gone down
    a whole bunch.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Scott Comstock on Wed Jan 10 16:15:18 2018
    Re: quiet
    By: Scott Comstock to Ennev on Wed Jan 10 2018 12:38 pm

    Re: quiet
    By: Ennev to All on Wed Jan 10 2018 10:13 am

    Feel quiet here? your all busy ?

    Not particularly...


    i worked one hour today. the rest was at my desk on facebook or listening to the radio
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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Ennev on Wed Jan 10 17:58:40 2018
    Re: quiet
    By: Ennev to All on Wed Jan 10 2018 10:13:19

    Feel quiet here? your all busy ?

    Pretty much, and I've got nothing to say or contribute.

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  • From Nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to Ennev on Wed Jan 10 18:06:50 2018
    On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:13:19 -0500, "Ennev" <ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK>
    wrote:

    Feel quiet here? your all busy ?

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Elaek on Thu Jan 11 09:22:11 2018
    Yeah ive been feeling since christmas the frequnecy of posts has gone down
    a whole bunch.

    Everybody must be busy playing with theirs new toys !

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to MRO on Thu Jan 11 09:28:38 2018
    i worked one hour today. the rest was at my desk on facebook or listening
    to the radio

    About radio I've dusted out my old shortwave receiver and I was shock about
    the silence, a lot have stations stopped service. Sad, our democracies should still broadcast, for many with theirs governments blocking the internet that was a way to circumvent somehow the censorship (they could try jamming, but
    not has efficient as cutting the wires).

    Oddly enough there is a S%17 load of Chinese stations.

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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Ennev on Thu Jan 11 22:21:29 2018
    Re: About Radio
    By: Ennev to MRO on Thu Jan 11 2018 09:28:38

    About radio I've dusted out my old shortwave receiver and I was shock about the silence, a lot have stations stopped service. Sad, our democracies shoul still broadcast, for many with theirs governments blocking the internet that was a way to circumvent somehow the censorship (they could try jamming, but not has efficient as cutting the wires).

    Oddly enough there is a S%17 load of Chinese stations.

    Man, I miss having one of those multi-band radios. My dad had a couple of those radios on hand. I even remember when I had this one toy to where you could wire up a lot of electronic components to make whatever you want (it was one of those things to where you have resistors, capicators, a couple of ICs, and speaker, etc.). One project that was in there was to make a short-wave radio that didn't need any batteries or power. I tried to put power to it, but I was not smart enought with curcuitry to understand that I needed an amplifier for the speaker and that could be the only thing to take batteries.

    Kind of sad that short wave radio is falling by the way side. It was kind of cool to pick up a couple of French stations (for all I know, it could have been broadcasted from Quebec) and not understand a word of what was said.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Elaek on Fri Jan 12 21:26:00 2018
    Elaek wrote to All <=-

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    Feel quiet here?

    Yeah ive been feeling since christmas the frequnecy of posts has gone
    down a whole bunch.

    Looks like I'm back, after a few technical hitches.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ennev on Fri Jan 12 13:08:53 2018
    Re: quiet
    By: Ennev to All on Wed Jan 10 2018 10:13 am

    Feel quiet here? your all busy ?

    Stomach flu.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Jagossel on Fri Jan 12 13:10:13 2018
    Re: About Radio
    By: Jagossel to Ennev on Thu Jan 11 2018 10:21 pm

    Kind of sad that short wave radio is falling by the way side. It was kind of cool to pick up a couple of French stations (for all I know, it could have been broadcasted from Quebec) and not understand a word of what was said.

    I loved the romantic notion of traveling and using a shortwave to stay connected to home -- and running an antenna up and listening to broadcasts from halfway around the world. The internet's made the world a smaller place.

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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Vk3jed on Fri Jan 12 19:00:22 2018
    Re: Re: quiet
    By: Vk3jed to Elaek on Fri Jan 12 2018 21:26:00

    Looks like I'm back, after a few technical hitches.

    Welcome back! I was wondering if everything was OK, haven't heard from you in a while.

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  • From Vaclav@VERT/DIGDIST to Jagossel on Fri Jan 12 19:13:00 2018
    Jagossel wrote to Ennev <=-

    Kind of sad that short wave radio is falling by the way side. It was
    kind of cool to pick up a couple of French stations (for all I know, it could have been broadcasted from Quebec) and not understand a word of
    what was said.

    I miss listening to Deutsche Welle, Radio Nederlands, and Radio Bulgaria every evening after work. These days I'm lucky if I can pick up anything other than Radio Havana Cuba, China Radio International, or EWTN's shortwave broadcast.

    It's still kinda fun chasing utility, volmet, and numbers stations, but it ain't the same...



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to JAGOSSEL on Fri Jan 12 16:25:00 2018
    Kind of sad that short wave radio is falling by the way side. It was kind of >cool to pick up a couple of French stations (for all I know, it could have been
    broadcasted from Quebec) and not understand a word of what was said.

    When I was younger, and the cold war was still on, I thought I was some
    kind of spy when I was able to pick up radio moscow world service! :D I
    would listen to it for hours, hoping to expose some commie plot.

    Of course, it should have tipped me off that, being in English, they were broadcasting for us to hear it on purpose. :)

    Also, used to pick up some stations where it sounded like someone was
    giving a loud, forceful speach in Spanish while there were military/parade sounds in the background.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Jan 13 00:25:38 2018
    Re: quiet
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Ennev on Fri Jan 12 2018 01:08 pm

    Re: quiet
    By: Ennev to All on Wed Jan 10 2018 10:13 am

    Feel quiet here? your all busy ?

    Stomach flu.

    must have got the flu shot
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Jagossel on Sat Jan 13 18:08:00 2018
    Jagossel wrote to Vk3jed <=-

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    Re: Re: quiet
    By: Vk3jed to Elaek on Fri Jan 12 2018 21:26:00

    Looks like I'm back, after a few technical hitches.

    Welcome back! I was wondering if everything was OK, haven't heard from you in a while.

    Yeah, dead SD in the Pi, and a corrupt backup, so had to rebuild from scratch. Took the opportunity to upgrade to SBBS 3.17. :) Still getting various networks back up and running, the slowest part is contacting the hubs and getting session passwords again. :)


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Sat Jan 13 02:54:51 2018
    Re: Re: quiet
    By: Vk3jed to Jagossel on Sat Jan 13 2018 06:08 pm

    Yeah, dead SD in the Pi, and a corrupt backup, so had to rebuild from scratch. Took the opportunity to upgrade to SBBS 3.17. :) Still getting various networks back up and running, the slowest part is contacting the hubs and getting session passwords again. :)


    you dont backup every week?
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  • From Marisag@VERT/AMIGAC to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jan 14 00:04:41 2018
    Re: quiet
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Ennev on Fri Jan 12 2018 13:08:53

    Just getting over a cold, myself...

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Vk3jed on Sat Jan 13 20:36:04 2018
    Re: Re: quiet
    By: Vk3jed to Jagossel on Sat Jan 13 2018 06:08 pm

    Looks like I'm back, after a few technical hitches.

    Welcome back! I was wondering if everything was OK, haven't heard
    from you in a while.

    Yeah, dead SD in the Pi, and a corrupt backup, so had to rebuild from scratch. Took the opportunity to upgrade to SBBS 3.17. :) Still getting various networks back up and running, the slowest part is contacting the hubs and getting session passwords again. :)

    I just moved my entire BBS from an HP thin client to a acer thin client, the move took about 30 minutes and everything seems to be working great.

    Glad to see you back online with your BBS, to bad your backup was corrupt.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to MRO on Sun Jan 14 17:45:00 2018
    MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-

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    Re: Re: quiet
    By: Vk3jed to Jagossel on Sat Jan 13 2018 06:08 pm

    Yeah, dead SD in the Pi, and a corrupt backup, so had to rebuild from scratch. Took the opportunity to upgrade to SBBS 3.17. :) Still getting various networks back up and running, the slowest part is contacting the hubs and getting session passwords again. :)


    you dont backup every week?

    doesn't work real well when the SD card it was being sourced from and prepared on was failing. New backup system should be a lot more robust, with an archive of every backup taken. Also have a backup of the OS, so I don't have to reinstall all my dependencies.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Denn on Sun Jan 14 17:47:00 2018
    Denn wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I just moved my entire BBS from an HP thin client to a acer thin
    client, the move took about 30 minutes and everything seems to be
    working great.

    Yeah, no reason it shouldn't be a quick process.

    Glad to see you back online with your BBS, to bad your backup was
    corrupt.

    Yeah, still more work to do, but the base system and a few networks are all up and running. Now to round up the rest of the othernets.

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    LOL! :D


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Vk3jed on Sun Jan 14 01:43:40 2018
    Re: Re: quiet
    By: Vk3jed to MRO on Sun Jan 14 2018 05:45 pm

    you dont backup every week?

    doesn't work real well when the SD card it was being sourced from and prepared on was failing. New backup system should be a lot more robust, with an archive of every backup taken. Also have a backup of the OS, so I don't have to reinstall all my dependencies.



    yeah but it wasnt going bad all the time. you should have had some backups.
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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Jagossel on Sun Jan 14 14:52:41 2018
    I even remember when I had this one toy to where you
    could wire up a lot of electronic components to make whatever you want (it was one of those things to where you have resistors, capicators, a couple
    of ICs, and speaker, etc.). One project that was in there was to make a short-wave radio that didn't need any batteries or power. I tried to put power to it, but I was not smart enought with curcuitry to understand that
    I needed an amplifier for the speaker and that could be the only thing to take batteries.

    What you are describing is a product like "150-in-one" electronic project. I had so much fun with those, sometime i fell like getting one again, seen something similar on amazon. Learned so much from it, without realizing it.

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Vaclav on Sun Jan 14 15:03:04 2018
    I miss listening to Deutsche Welle, Radio Nederlands, and Radio Bulgaria every evening after work. These days I'm lucky if I can pick up anything other than Radio Havana Cuba, China Radio International, or EWTN's
    shortwave broadcast.

    It's still kinda fun chasing utility, volmet, and numbers stations, but it ain't the same...

    One site that is fun to play with is : http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901

    but it's not the same. But fun to find theses software defined radios
    available on the web.

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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Ennev on Sun Jan 14 15:48:27 2018
    Re: Re: About Radio
    By: Ennev to Jagossel on Sun Jan 14 2018 14:52:41

    I even remember when I had this one toy to where you
    could wire up a lot of electronic components to make whatever you want (i was one of those things to where you have resistors, capicators, a couple of ICs, and speaker, etc.). One project that was in there was to make a short-wave radio that didn't need any batteries or power. I tried to put power to it, but I was not smart enought with curcuitry to understand tha I needed an amplifier for the speaker and that could be the only thing to take batteries.

    What you are describing is a product like "150-in-one" electronic project. I had so much fun with those, sometime i fell like getting one again, seen something similar on amazon. Learned so much from it, without realizing it.

    I think it was a Matrixonic (or something like that). I did find one on Amazon for ~US$95. I, also, saw a recommendation of some kit that comes with a breadboard, a couple of IC's, buttons, and a few 7s led displays. It comes with a microcontroller (want to believe it's an Ardrino Uno) as well: ~US$50.

    Would like to get back to curcuitry again, but I cannot find a practical project to make something. So, I just end up watching The Ben Heck Show videos.

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Jagossel on Sun Jan 14 16:07:13 2018
    I think it was a Matrixonic (or something like that). I did find one on Amazon for ~US$95. I, also, saw a recommendation of some kit that comes
    with a breadboard, a couple of IC's, buttons, and a few 7s led displays. It comes with a microcontroller (want to believe it's an Ardrino Uno) as well: ~US$50.

    Would like to get back to curcuitry again, but I cannot find a practical project to make something. So, I just end up watching The Ben Heck Show videos.

    Yeah same here, still have a soldering iron and stuff. But only use it when it time to do easy fix. Don't really do projects anymore. Like crazy stuff i did
    a year or two ago was to control a led light with a Raspberry Pi !! Wow, it's the future :-)

    But I have a couple of old AM radio and thinking that my 150-in-one had a schematic to make a am transmitter. Could make it play what I want on theses old radio without having to alter theirs circuitry, which would be a sin :-)

    Did dug out a pdf of the manuals so i could basically just get the part and breadboard it but radio circuit are tricky. Maybe i would just start with a
    kit like that first :-)

    When I was a kid me and one of my neighbour friend was making a radio station like that :-) power was low go we never made more than a mile even with go antenna, so it stayed legal :-D

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  • From Vaclav@VERT/DIGDIST to Ennev on Sun Jan 14 18:36:00 2018
    Ennev wrote to Vaclav <=-
    One site that is fun to play with is :
    http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901

    but it's not the same. But fun to find theses software defined radios available on the web.

    I've played with a couple of web SDRs (and scanners!) but not this particular one. Will have to give it a look.

    Greetz from Winnipeg!


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Ennev on Mon Jan 15 11:56:00 2018
    Ennev wrote to Jagossel <=-

    What you are describing is a product like "150-in-one" electronic
    project. I had so much fun with those, sometime i fell like getting one again, seen something similar on amazon. Learned so much from it,
    without realizing it.

    Those were great kits. Very educational and easy to work with, no soldering required. I only had a 10 in one, but even that had some interesting projects.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Jagossel on Mon Jan 15 12:00:00 2018
    Jagossel wrote to Ennev <=-

    I think it was a Matrixonic (or something like that). I did find one on Amazon for ~US$95. I, also, saw a recommendation of some kit that comes with a breadboard, a couple of IC's, buttons, and a few 7s led
    displays. It comes with a microcontroller (want to believe it's an
    Ardrino Uno) as well: ~US$50.

    There's a set of electronic blocks around that just "click" together to form projects. I can't remember the name of those, but I did see them demonstrated at the local tech library.

    Would like to get back to curcuitry again, but I cannot find a
    practical project to make something. So, I just end up watching The Ben Heck Show videos.

    I've kept my skills up, and have even started learning Arduino. I have an Arduino Uno that I'm basing a project around. The Uno part is working 100%. I just have to assemble the supporting circuitry - audio amp, push button, RF modules, and build the second half of the project.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Ennev on Mon Jan 15 12:07:00 2018
    Ennev wrote to Jagossel <=-

    Yeah same here, still have a soldering iron and stuff. But only use it when it time to do easy fix. Don't really do projects anymore. Like
    crazy stuff i did a year or two ago was to control a led light with a Raspberry Pi !! Wow, it's the future :-)

    Yeah, I did good old "Blink" on the Arduino. :D But now the Arduino has a little more code in it, though still very simple.

    But I have a couple of old AM radio and thinking that my 150-in-one had
    a schematic to make a am transmitter. Could make it play what I want on theses old radio without having to alter theirs circuitry, which would
    be a sin :-)

    Yes, those old project kits did have an AB broadcast band transmitter. My 10 in one's range was only about a foot, but from memory, the bigger kits had a better AM transmitter among their projects. Not long after that era, the so called "FM bugs" came along - minature FM transmitters that worked quite well over 100 feet or more. Some designs could get half a mile.

    Did dug out a pdf of the manuals so i could basically just get the part and breadboard it but radio circuit are tricky. Maybe i would just
    start with a kit like that first :-)

    You _may_ get away with breadboarding it at AM broadcast frequencies. Will likely be slightly off frequency or detuned to the stray reactances of the connecting wires and the breadbard conductors.

    When I was a kid me and one of my neighbour friend was making a radio station like that :-) power was low go we never made more than a mile
    even with go antenna, so it stayed legal :-D

    Sadly in Australia, things are a lot more restriceive, we don't have the same flexibility with low power broadcasting that other countries (e.g. USA and New Zealand) seem to have. :(


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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Ennev on Mon Jan 15 07:18:04 2018
    Re: Re: About Radio
    By: Ennev to Jagossel on Sun Jan 14 2018 16:07:13

    Yeah same here, still have a soldering iron and stuff. But only use it when time to do easy fix. Don't really do projects anymore. Like crazy stuff i di a year or two ago was to control a led light with a Raspberry Pi !! Wow, it' the future :-)

    When I was a kid me and one of my neighbour friend was making a radio statio like that :-) power was low go we never made more than a mile even with go antenna, so it stayed legal :-D

    I used to do the same thing with my kit, make the AM radio transmitter and broadcast whatever I want. I believe mine only had a very short range that it would not go past the neighbors houses. I had an added bonus where my dad is an electronics enigneer as well, and he would have other parts around the house. I believe I would have been able to grab a 3.5mm plug and plug it in instead of using the speaker as a microphone. Fun times, man.

    I remember one of the curcuits that the manual provided was a game, something about having to shoot down a UFO as soon as it approaches. It was kind of cool, and worth it after following over 5 lines of instructions (it was one per line, a series in a line) of wiring and nearly running out of wires. :)

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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Vk3jed on Mon Jan 15 07:22:07 2018
    Re: Re: About Radio
    By: Vk3jed to Ennev on Mon Jan 15 2018 11:56:00

    What you are describing is a product like "150-in-one" electronic project. I had so much fun with those, sometime i fell like getting one again, seen something similar on amazon. Learned so much from it, without realizing it.

    Those were great kits. Very educational and easy to work with, no soldering required. I only had a 10 in one, but even that had some interesting projec

    Man, they were loads of fun and it was one of the few toys that I would play with (along with Legos and a computer) very frequently. Like I said, I went to look it up one day and saw that they are now over US$95, but the one kit that I saw that comes with a microcontroller is like about US$50. I would like to pick it up and see if I can do something with it, but I wouldn't know what to do with a curcuit and a microcontroller.

    When I watch a lot of the Ben Heck shows, it seems like electronic engineering is starting to have a lot of programming involved. It really seems like software is starting to take over our daily lives. :)

    Speaking as a developer, of course. <grin>

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Vaclav on Mon Jan 15 07:44:04 2018
    Greetz from Winnipeg!

    -22c here, how about you?

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Vk3jed on Mon Jan 15 07:51:49 2018
    You _may_ get away with breadboarding it at AM broadcast frequencies. Will likely be slightly off frequency or detuned to the stray reactances of the connecting wires and the breadbard conductors.

    Yes very tricky, you look at it and it shift frequencies :-D I guess the best would be solder and shield the board. But for a start.

    Sadly in Australia, things are a lot more restriceive, we don't have the same flexibility with low power broadcasting that other countries (e.g. USA and New Zealand) seem to have. :(

    Here I just looked and I was surprised as what is legal : http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/eng/sf01323.html

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Jagossel on Mon Jan 15 07:53:18 2018
    I remember one of the curcuits that the manual provided was a game, something about having to shoot down a UFO as soon as it approaches. It
    was kind of cool, and worth it after following over 5 lines of instructions (it was one per line, a series in a line) of wiring and nearly running out of wires. :)

    Oh yes i remember theses:

    1-45-65-34
    56-65-34-65
    56-75-33-23-11-22

    :-D

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Jagossel on Mon Jan 15 07:55:14 2018
    When I watch a lot of the Ben Heck shows, it seems like electronic engineering is starting to have a lot of programming involved. It really seems like software is starting to take over our daily lives. :)

    Anybody watch Techmoan or Mr Carlson's Lab, could watch that all day :-D

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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to Ennev on Mon Jan 15 10:16:03 2018
    Re: Re: About Radio
    By: Ennev to Jagossel on Mon Jan 15 2018 07:55:14

    When I watch a lot of the Ben Heck shows, it seems like electronic engineering is starting to have a lot of programming involved. It really seems like software is starting to take over our daily lives. :)

    Anybody watch Techmoan or Mr Carlson's Lab, could watch that all day :-D

    I've never heard of Mr. Carlson's Lab, but I do enjoy Techmoan and some of the unique things he covers. I do get a kick out the muppets he does at the end of his shows (some shows, not all).

    -jag
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Jagossel on Tue Jan 16 11:13:00 2018
    Jagossel wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Those were great kits. Very educational and easy to work with, no soldering required. I only had a 10 in one, but even that had some interesting projec

    Man, they were loads of fun and it was one of the few toys that I would play with (along with Legos and a computer) very frequently. Like I
    said, I went to look it up one day and saw that they are now over
    US$95, but the one kit that I saw that comes with a microcontroller is like about US$50. I would like to pick it up and see if I can do something with it, but I wouldn't know what to do with a curcuit and a microcontroller.

    From memory, the bigger kits weren't cheap back then either. Yes, microcontrollers should be pretty standard fare nowadays, ideally something like an Arduino.

    When I watch a lot of the Ben Heck shows, it seems like electronic engineering is starting to have a lot of programming involved. It
    really seems like software is starting to take over our daily lives.
    :)

    Has been for some time. I like the change. Sure, it means learning some programming, though I find microcontroller programming _much_ easier than general programming, because you're working on bare metal in a fairly deterministic way, rather than trying to work in cooperation with some OS and whatever else is on the system. 10 years ago, I wrote a sophisticated multiport simplex/duplex radio link controller, with a "smart VOX" (which worked in conjunction with an external DSP noise reduction unit). The code was written in assembler on a PIC16F84, only a couple hundred lines in total. It could handle 5 radio ports (limited by available I/O pins on the PIC), in any combination of simplex or duplex, and modes - FM with hardware squelch, FM with VOX, SSB "smart VOX" that minimised false triggering.

    In the field, this unit was extremely successful. I used it to likk a 70cm FM frequency, 2m SSB frequency and PC with Echolink together. The combination of DSP audio processing and smart squelch made the SSB users sound more like FM users, provided they tuned to the exact frequency the link was running on. I frequently heard reports from Echolink users, amazed they were talking to someone on SSB. :)

    The availability of microcontrollers allows one to do things easily, which would be tedious at best, to do in hardware.

    Speaking as a developer, of course. <grin>

    :-)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Ennev on Tue Jan 16 11:16:00 2018
    Ennev wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Yes very tricky, you look at it and it shift frequencies :-D I guess
    the best would be solder and shield the board. But for a start.

    AM broadcast frequencies aren't so bad, you could probably do it "dead bug style" inside a shielded box, though a PCB would give better results. Higher frequencies are much less forgiving.

    Sadly in Australia, things are a lot more restriceive, we don't have the same flexibility with low power broadcasting that other countries (e.g. USA and New Zealand) seem to have. :(

    Here I just looked and I was surprised as what is legal : http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/smt-gst.nsf/eng/sf01323.html

    Got a quick summary? I don't have a need to peruse Canadian regulations. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Jagossel on Tue Jan 16 11:32:00 2018
    Jagossel wrote to Ennev <=-

    I used to do the same thing with my kit, make the AM radio transmitter
    and broadcast whatever I want. I believe mine only had a very short
    range that it would not go past the neighbors houses. I had an added bonus where my dad is an electronics enigneer as well, and he would
    have other parts around the house. I believe I would have been able to grab a 3.5mm plug and plug it in instead of using the speaker as a microphone. Fun times, man.

    Mine used a crystal earpiece as the mic, so it was obviously a high impedance input. :)

    I remember one of the curcuits that the manual provided was a game, something about having to shoot down a UFO as soon as it approaches.
    It was kind of cool, and worth it after following over 5 lines of instructions (it was one per line, a series in a line) of wiring and nearly running out of wires. :)

    Never had a game on mine, but I spent most of my time playing with the AM transmitter and crystal set (not together, as they required the same components, especially variable capacitor and ferrite rod inductor/antenna.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Ennev on Tue Jan 16 11:33:00 2018
    Ennev wrote to Vaclav <=-

    @VIA: VERT/MTLGEEK
    Greetz from Winnipeg!

    -22c here, how about you?

    31C today, expecting 43C on Friday. :)


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  • From Vaclav@VERT/DIGDIST to Ennev on Mon Jan 15 19:56:00 2018
    Ennev wrote to Vaclav <=-

    Greetz from Winnipeg!

    -22c here, how about you?

    -27c (-37c wind chill) at the moment, almost tropical for this time of year! ;)


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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Vk3jed on Tue Jan 16 07:48:47 2018
    In the field, this unit was extremely successful. I used it to likk a 70cm FM frequency, 2m SSB frequency and PC with Echolink together. The combination of DSP audio processing and smart squelch made the SSB users sound more like FM users, provided they tuned to the exact frequency the link was running on. I frequently heard reports from Echolink users,
    amazed they were talking to someone on SSB. :)

    SSB on 2M ? wow !

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Vk3jed on Tue Jan 16 07:52:16 2018
    Got a quick summary? I don't have a need to peruse Canadian regulations.
    :)

    It is for example legal to operate gadget like this : https://www.chezradio.com/ (1290 - 1700kHz )

    that have a range from 1/2 miles to 2.

    Similar devices are available for FM

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Vk3jed on Tue Jan 16 07:54:17 2018
    31C today, expecting 43C on Friday. :)

    Yup, summer over there !

    I'll be on a cruise in a couples of week in the Caribbean, hope to have
    similar to that, but maybe not 43 :-D

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Vaclav on Tue Jan 16 07:54:55 2018
    -27c (-37c wind chill) at the moment, almost tropical for this time of
    year! ;)

    Don't let it get over your head, don't be indecent :-D

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Tue Jan 16 06:23:50 2018
    Re: About Radio
    By: Dumas Walker to JAGOSSEL on Fri Jan 12 2018 04:25 pm

    When I was younger, and the cold war was still on, I thought I was some kind of spy when I was able to pick up radio moscow world service! :D I would listen to it for hours, hoping to expose some commie plot.

    My grandfather handed down an old Sony shortwave from the 70's that I'd listen to late at night. I remember hearing my first numbers station as an early teen and thinking I'd run into a global nucyular conspiracy.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Denn on Tue Jan 16 06:25:18 2018
    Re: Re: quiet
    By: Vk3jed to Denn on Sun Jan 14 2018 05:47 pm

    I just moved my entire BBS from an HP thin client to a acer thin
    client, the move took about 30 minutes and everything seems to be
    working great.

    Care to describe your setup? I've been tempted to play with one of those, hear rumors of being able to run DOS/Windows 3 on them as a retro station without the retro hardware complications.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ennev on Tue Jan 16 06:26:09 2018
    Re: Re: About Radio
    By: Ennev to Jagossel on Sun Jan 14 2018 02:52 pm

    What you are describing is a product like "150-in-one" electronic project. I had so much fun with those, sometime i fell like getting one again, seen something similar on amazon. Learned so much from it, without realizing it.

    I tried to find my son a traditional crystal radio kit, may have to make my own with him... :(

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Ennev on Tue Jan 16 10:19:48 2018
    Re: Re: About Radio
    By: Ennev to Vk3jed on Tue Jan 16 2018 07:48:47

    SSB on 2M ? wow !

    It's a thing, but not a thing you can do with most 2M rigs.

    There's a semi-weekly net in my area that I keep meaning to check into; need to throw an
    appropriate antenner outside first.


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  • From Phantom Nomad@VERT/TBB-BBS to Jagossel on Tue Jan 16 10:58:00 2018
    While there is a definite decline of stations, there are still lots out
    there. With the sun spot cycle on the decline it's harder to hear a lot of them. If you check out https://www.shortwaveschedule.com/ you can find out who's broadcasting and when.

    I'm really sad that Radio Canada International has stopped broadcasting and a long with that they would repeat some foreign stations that you couldn't pick up in North America.

    Stephen
  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Jan 16 14:32:29 2018
    Re: About Radio
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Tue Jan 16 2018 06:23:50

    When I was younger, and the cold war was still on, I thought I was some kind of spy when I was able to pick up radio moscow world service! :D I would listen to it for hours, hoping to expose some commie plot.

    My grandfather handed down an old Sony shortwave from the 70's that I'd list to late at night. I remember hearing my first numbers station as an early te and thinking I'd run into a global nucyular conspiracy.

    I just watched a YouTube video about live broadcasts that had been recorded and gone virual. One if them is a numbers station, and the recording that dI heard and how it was described was really erie.

    -jag
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Ennev on Wed Jan 17 07:35:00 2018
    Ennev wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    SSB on 2M ? wow !

    Nothing new about SSB on 2m, but using it in a radio link is tricky, because there's no carrier to distinguish the signal from background noise.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Ennev on Wed Jan 17 07:36:00 2018
    Ennev wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    @VIA: VERT/MTLGEEK
    Got a quick summary? I don't have a need to peruse Canadian regulations.
    :)

    It is for example legal to operate gadget like this : https://www.chezradio.com/ (1290 - 1700kHz )

    that have a range from 1/2 miles to 2.

    Similar devices are available for FM

    Nice. Our laws are much more restrictive. :(


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Ennev on Wed Jan 17 07:36:00 2018
    Ennev wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    @VIA: VERT/MTLGEEK
    31C today, expecting 43C on Friday. :)

    Yup, summer over there !

    I'll be on a cruise in a couples of week in the Caribbean, hope to have similar to that, but maybe not 43 :-D

    Yeah 43 is stretching the friendship a bit. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jan 17 07:43:00 2018
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Ennev <=-

    I tried to find my son a traditional crystal radio kit, may have to
    make my own with him... :(

    Well, you can cannibalise the ferrite rod from an old AM radio, should be able to buy the rest of the parts. I'm guessing you don't want to be so authentic as to wind the coil. :D


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to echicken on Wed Jan 17 07:44:00 2018
    echicken wrote to Ennev <=-

    SSB on 2M ? wow !

    It's a thing, but not a thing you can do with most 2M rigs.

    Yep. :)

    There's a semi-weekly net in my area that I keep meaning to check into; need to throw an appropriate antenner outside first.

    Yeah I wouldn't mind putting up a Yagi for 2m. Got plenty of SSB capable radios to use. :)


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Tue Jan 16 18:37:00 2018
    My grandfather handed down an old Sony shortwave from the 70's that I'd listen >to late at night. I remember hearing my first numbers station as an early teen >and thinking I'd run into a global nucyular conspiracy.

    For some reason, the ones that would do nothing but beep and tell you what
    time it was going to be with the next beep sort of gave me the creeps. :D

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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Jan 16 22:45:30 2018
    Re: Re: quiet
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Denn on Tue Jan 16 2018 06:25 am

    I just moved my entire BBS from an HP thin client to a acer thin
    client, the move took about 30 minutes and everything seems to be
    working great.

    Care to describe your setup? I've been tempted to play with one of those, hear rumors of being able to run DOS/Windows 3 on them as a retro station without the retro hardware complications.

    I now run on an Acer thin client 2GB ram 320 GB HD widows 7 Pro 32.
    the CPU is an atom D425 1.8 ghz (Acer Veriton n281g)
    the hard drive is internal 2.5

    I was running the BBS on an HP t540e running windows 7 pro 2GB ram but I am going to turn this thin client into a linux box.

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Phantom Nomad on Wed Jan 17 07:19:17 2018
    I'm really sad that Radio Canada International has stopped broadcasting and a long with that they would repeat some foreign stations that you couldn't pick up in North America.

    It was done during sever cuts to the CBC the nationally funded network. It did compromise also the local production too. But it never came back, the logic being that services are now offered on the internet. Easier to block by
    foreign regime than setting up jammers.

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Vk3jed on Wed Jan 17 07:20:41 2018
    Nothing new about SSB on 2m, but using it in a radio link is tricky,
    because there's no carrier to distinguish the signal from background noise.

    like any SSB, are they using usb or lsb ?

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jan 17 07:22:41 2018
    I tried to find my son a traditional crystal radio kit, may have to make my own with him... :(

    weird synchronicity, but instructable was featuring this project on theirs mailing this week : http://q.ennev.com/b01

    even showing out to substitute the diode with a burned razor blade.

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to Ennev on Wed Jan 17 08:30:56 2018
    Re: Re: About Radio
    By: Ennev to Vk3jed on Wed Jan 17 2018 07:20:41

    like any SSB, are they using usb or lsb ?

    It's usually USB, though many rigs that do SSB on 2M will do LSB as well.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Ennev on Thu Jan 18 09:13:00 2018
    Ennev wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    @VIA: VERT/MTLGEEK
    Nothing new about SSB on 2m, but using it in a radio link is tricky,
    because there's no carrier to distinguish the signal from background noise.

    like any SSB, are they using usb or lsb ?

    By convention, below 9 MHz, LSB is used, and above 9 MHz, USB is used. So 2m SSB uses USB. The convention dates back to the early days of SSB VFO operation, where a 9 MHz local oscillator was used. This convention made it technically easier for builders of the equipment of the day. Today, using USB on all frequencies would be a better convention, which would bring us in line with commercial SSB users, and also simplify conventions surrounding mixed voice/data operation and digital voice systems. But the old convention has stuck.


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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Vk3jed on Thu Jan 18 07:06:59 2018
    By convention, below 9 MHz, LSB is used, and above 9 MHz, USB is used. So

    wondered if the rule applied so far up! :-)

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ennev on Thu Jan 18 10:42:06 2018
    Re: Re: About Radio
    By: Ennev to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Jan 17 2018 07:22 am

    weird synchronicity, but instructable was featuring this project on theirs mailing this week : http://q.ennev.com/b01

    Very cool - thanks for sharing the link!

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to JAGOSSEL on Thu Jan 18 10:35:00 2018
    JAGOSSEL wrote to ENNEV <=-

    Man, I miss having one of those multi-band radios. My dad had a couple
    of those radios on hand. I even remember when I had this one toy to
    where you could wire up a lot of electronic components to make whatever you want (it was one of those things to where you have resistors, capicators, a couple of ICs, and speaker, etc.). One project that was
    in there was to make a short-wave radio that didn't need any batteries
    or power. I tried to put power to it, but I was not smart enought with curcuitry to understand that I needed an amplifier for the speaker and that could be the only thing to take batteries.

    Kind of sad that short wave radio is falling by the way side. It was
    kind of cool to pick up a couple of French stations (for all I know, it could have been broadcasted from Quebec) and not understand a word of
    what was said.

    My dad brought a shortband radio home from an auction once (he was always bringing home odd ball things) and I remember having fun listening to
    Armed Forces Radio or something like that. :-) That was LONG before I
    knew about HAM radio, and now that I have my license I still only
    talk VHF & UHF. :-)



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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Thu Jan 18 10:36:00 2018
    POINDEXTER FORTRAN wrote to JAGOSSEL <=-

    Kind of sad that short wave radio is falling by the way side. It was kind of cool to pick up a couple of French stations (for all I know, it could have been broadcasted from Quebec) and not understand a word of what was said.

    I loved the romantic notion of traveling and using a shortwave to stay connected to home -- and running an antenna up and listening to
    broadcasts from halfway around the world. The internet's made the world
    a smaller place.

    Agreed - and in a way that's good, but it means some of the charm
    is no longer there...




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to ENNEV on Thu Jan 18 10:37:00 2018
    ENNEV wrote to JAGOSSEL <=-

    I even remember when I had this one toy to where you
    could wire up a lot of electronic components to make whatever you want (it was one of those things to where you have resistors, capicators, a couple
    of ICs, and speaker, etc.). One project that was in there was to make a short-wave radio that didn't need any batteries or power. I tried to put power to it, but I was not smart enought with curcuitry to understand that
    I needed an amplifier for the speaker and that could be the only thing to take batteries.

    What you are describing is a product like "150-in-one" electronic
    project. I had so much fun with those, sometime i fell like getting one again, seen something similar on amazon. Learned so much from it,
    without realizing it.


    Yeah - I couldn't remember what they were called! I always looked at
    those in the Radio Shack catalog, but never got one. :-)

    I did make an electromagnet out of a 6V battery and a nail...




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to JAGOSSEL on Thu Jan 18 10:40:00 2018
    JAGOSSEL wrote to ENNEV <=-

    I think it was a Matrixonic (or something like that). I did find one on Amazon for ~US$95. I, also, saw a recommendation of some kit that comes with a breadboard, a couple of IC's, buttons, and a few 7s led
    displays. It comes with a microcontroller (want to believe it's an
    Ardrino Uno) as well: ~US$50.

    Would like to get back to curcuitry again, but I cannot find a
    practical project to make something. So, I just end up watching The Ben Heck Show videos.

    I hear podcasters talking about building stuff with Ardrino and I
    think I'd like to do it - then realize I already have a TON of
    things I enjoy doing. :-) Even now I'm reading BBS mail for the
    first time in over a month! Just been super busy!




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to VACLAV on Thu Jan 18 10:43:00 2018
    VACLAV wrote to ENNEV <=-

    One site that is fun to play with is :
    http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901

    but it's not the same. But fun to find theses software defined radios available on the web.

    I've played with a couple of web SDRs (and scanners!) but not this particular one. Will have to give it a look.

    I still remember going to the local radio place (not radio shack, but
    a local place that worked on the PD radios and such) and getting a
    crystal to go in the scanner to pick up a certain frequency. :-)




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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to ECHICKEN on Thu Jan 18 10:55:00 2018
    ECHICKEN wrote to ENNEV <=-

    SSB on 2M ? wow !

    It's a thing, but not a thing you can do with most 2M rigs.

    There's a semi-weekly net in my area that I keep meaning to check into; need to throw an appropriate antenner outside first.

    The guys around here were working with digital packets and such for
    a while - I haven't made a meeting in several months, so I'm not
    sure if they still are or not...

    That being said, there was talk of using the 'baofang' dual connector
    connected to a sound card to make the packets with a laptop and
    connect to the HT. We use TYT, and they use the Baofang microphone,
    and I have a USB sound card with mic and earphone jack, but I never
    did anything with it...



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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to JAGOSSEL on Thu Jan 18 10:59:00 2018
    JAGOSSEL wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-

    My grandfather handed down an old Sony shortwave from the 70's that I'd list to late at night. I remember hearing my first numbers station as an early te and thinking I'd run into a global nucyular conspiracy.

    I just watched a YouTube video about live broadcasts that had been recorded and gone virual. One if them is a numbers station, and the recording that dI heard and how it was described was really erie.

    I wasn't familiar with 'numbers station,' but just googled it.
    VERY interesting! Can't say I remember hearing one back in the
    day, but I like the concept!



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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Jan 19 07:04:46 2018
    I hear podcasters talking about building stuff with Ardrino and I
    think I'd like to do it - then realize I already have a TON of
    things I enjoy doing. :-) Even now I'm reading BBS mail for the
    first time in over a month! Just been super busy!

    Busy is good, but glad your back.

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Jan 19 07:08:20 2018
    I still remember going to the local radio place (not radio shack, but
    a local place that worked on the PD radios and such) and getting a
    crystal to go in the scanner to pick up a certain frequency. :-)

    Oh! I remember theses "police scanner" where you would need a crystal for each frequency you wanted to listen on. That poor business got killed digital tuner got introduced. I remember that little sweeping light when it was looking for
    a transmission.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Jan 19 09:07:44 2018
    Re: Re: About Radio
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to ENNEV on Thu Jan 18 2018 10:37 am

    Yeah - I couldn't remember what they were called! I always looked at
    those in the Radio Shack catalog, but never got one. :-)

    I remember saving my money and going to a catalog showroom to buy a 50-in-one kit; I was so excited. When I got there, my mom took my money and bought me the 150-in-one kit; I was over the top.

    I remember making sound circuits, playing with photoresistors, and learning a ton about electronics. Now the kits seem more logic-based than teaching about electronics.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Jan 19 09:11:30 2018
    Re: Re: About Radio
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to JAGOSSEL on Thu Jan 18 2018 10:59 am

    I wasn't familiar with 'numbers station,' but just googled it.
    VERY interesting! Can't say I remember hearing one back in the
    day, but I like the concept!

    Did you find the Conet Project? It was a 5 CD compilation of numbers stations broadcasts. I streamed it on realitycheckBBS Radio a few months back.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ennev on Fri Jan 19 09:34:05 2018
    Re: Re: About Radio
    By: Ennev to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Jan 19 2018 07:08 am

    Oh! I remember theses "police scanner" where you would need a crystal for each frequency you wanted to listen on. That poor business got killed digital tuner got introduced. I remember that little sweeping light when it was looking for a transmission.

    Ditto for handheld 1-5 channel walkie talkies - you'd need a receive AND a transmit crystal!

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jan 19 15:08:17 2018
    I remember making sound circuits, playing with photoresistors, and learning a ton about electronics. Now the kits seem more logic-based than teaching about electronics.

    Totally agree with you, it's just some form of lego where I don't think you
    get any grasp of basic electronic.

    I plug the power module to the oscillator module, then i plug the amp module then the speaker module ! I'm a electronic engineer now !

    You don't even get to understand what polarity is !

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Jan 19 15:26:08 2018
    Ditto for handheld 1-5 channel walkie talkies - you'd need a receive AND a transmit crystal!

    Oh yeah, your right! I remember some Realistic early walkies talkie required crystals for the channels :-)

    wow, I forgot that one :-D

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Ennev on Sat Jan 20 09:11:00 2018
    Ennev wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    @VIA: VERT/MTLGEEK
    By convention, below 9 MHz, LSB is used, and above 9 MHz, USB is used. So

    wondered if the rule applied so far up! :-)

    Yes, it's USB up as far as you can go, and that also aligns with commercial practice, which uses USB. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sat Jan 20 09:41:00 2018
    JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to ENNEV <=-

    I did make an electromagnet out of a 6V battery and a nail...

    One of the standard electronics projects when w were kids. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sat Jan 20 09:48:00 2018
    JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to JAGOSSEL <=-

    I hear podcasters talking about building stuff with Ardrino and I

    Arduino is cool. I've only just started dabbling with them. I did play with PIC around 10 years ago, but Arduino is much easier to work with, because of the on board USB interface. The PIC required a serial interface to program

    think I'd like to do it - then realize I already have a TON of
    things I enjoy doing. :-) Even now I'm reading BBS mail for the
    first time in over a month! Just been super busy!

    Join the club! :)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sat Jan 20 09:48:00 2018
    JIMMY ANDERSON wrote to VACLAV <=-

    I still remember going to the local radio place (not radio shack, but
    a local place that worked on the PD radios and such) and getting a
    crystal to go in the scanner to pick up a certain frequency. :-)

    Now that's an old scanner! :)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Jan 20 09:51:00 2018
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Ennev <=-

    Ditto for handheld 1-5 channel walkie talkies - you'd need a receive
    AND a transmit crystal!

    I had one of those for my first CB radio. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Ennev on Sat Jan 20 09:58:00 2018
    Ennev wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Totally agree with you, it's just some form of lego where I don't think you get any grasp of basic electronic.

    The new stuff certainly looks like Lego.

    I plug the power module to the oscillator module, then i plug the amp module then the speaker module ! I'm a electronic engineer now !

    Yes, I've seen that stuff. The local tech library also had the ones where you draw the circuit on paper with a conductive pen, then add the modules (LED, resistors, transistors, etc) onto the pads you've drawn. Very cool. :)


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Jan 19 21:54:30 2018
    Re: Re: About Radio
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to JAGOSSEL on Thu Jan 18 2018 10:59 am

    JAGOSSEL wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-

    My grandfather handed down an old Sony shortwave from the 70's that I'd list to late at night. I remember hearing my first numbers station as an early te and thinking I'd run into a global nucyular conspiracy.

    I just watched a YouTube video about live broadcasts that had been recorded and gone virual. One if them is a numbers station, and the recording that dI heard and how it was described was really erie.

    I wasn't familiar with 'numbers station,' but just googled it.
    VERY interesting! Can't say I remember hearing one back in the
    day, but I like the concept!



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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Jan 19 18:13:00 2018
    Jimmy,

    My dad brought a shortband radio home from an auction once (he was always JA>bringing home odd ball things) and I remember having fun listening to JA>Armed Forces Radio or something like that. :-) That was LONG before I JA>knew about HAM radio, and now that I have my license I still only
    talk VHF & UHF. :-)

    My late uncle was the only other ham radio operator in my family (he
    passed away 25 years ago now), and he also gave me my love of trains. He
    had a lot of the classic equipment...but with antenna prohibitions, I
    just have a simple Motorola 2 channel radio for packet and APRS...the
    rest of the "gear" is a DV Dongle for D-Star, then the software for
    packet, Echolink, D-Star, and D-Rats.

    Yet, HF propagation lately has been absolutely lousy, from what I've
    heard.

    Daryl, WX1DER

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to ENNEV on Fri Jan 19 18:14:00 2018
    Oh! I remember theses "police scanner" where you would need a crystal for eac E>frequency you wanted to listen on. That poor business got killed digital tune E>got introduced. I remember that little sweeping light when it was looking for E>a transmission.

    I had a Bearcat 210 XL Scanner years ago...loved it.

    Most of the police, fire, etc. have gone to truncated 800 Mhz
    frequencies now, though.

    Daryl

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  • From Jagossel@VERT/MTLGEEK to MRO on Sat Jan 20 08:21:11 2018
    Re: Re: About Radio
    By: MRO to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Jan 19 2018 21:54:30

    My grandfather handed down an old Sony shortwave from the 70's that I' list to late at night. I remember hearing my first numbers station as early te and thinking I'd run into a global nucyular conspiracy.

    I just watched a YouTube video about live broadcasts that had been recorded and gone virual. One if them is a numbers station, and the recording that dI heard and how it was described was really erie.

    I wasn't familiar with 'numbers station,' but just googled it.
    VERY interesting! Can't say I remember hearing one back in the
    day, but I like the concept!

    it's probably how spies communicate. they even have them on facebook.

    That was the theroy on the YouTube video: global leaders communicating back abd forth sending numbers. The particular recording of a numbers station had a music box playing followed by a little girl reading the numbers, that was the erie bit.

    -jag
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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Vk3jed on Sat Jan 20 10:07:55 2018
    Yes, I've seen that stuff. The local tech library also had the ones where you draw the circuit on paper with a conductive pen, then add the modules (LED, resistors, transistors, etc) onto the pads you've drawn. Very cool. :)

    Yes, I've seen this somewhere too, it's awesome. I don't really know how you put components on the paper but being able to use conductive ink is amazing. Would have made my life simpler when I was learning.

    Breadboard is not bad. But that is elegant.

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to MRO on Sat Jan 20 10:29:50 2018

    it's probably how spies communicate. they even have them on facebook.

    It's also believed that some number stations are just amateur reading number just to spook people :-D

    But I'm sure some are legit.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Ennev on Sun Jan 21 05:14:00 2018
    Ennev wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Yes, I've seen this somewhere too, it's awesome. I don't really know
    how you put components on the paper but being able to use conductive
    ink is amazing. Would have made my life simpler when I was learning.

    The components are mounted in a carrier that makes contact with the ink. There's also templates, so you can accurately position the pads for optimal connection.

    Breadboard is not bad. But that is elegant.

    And not as beginner friendly, can get cluttered easily.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Sat Jan 20 13:24:00 2018
    My grandfather handed down an old Sony shortwave from the 70's that I'd
    list to late at night. I remember hearing my first numbers station as an early te and thinking I'd run into a global nucyular conspiracy.

    I was not familiar with numbers stations. Looked them up on the internet.
    Now I want to set one up! :D

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  • From Ray Quinn@VERT/US99 to Jagossel on Fri Jan 19 11:40:00 2018
    Jagossel wrote to Ennev <=-

    Re: quiet
    By: Ennev to All on Wed Jan 10 2018 10:13:19

    Feel quiet here? your all busy ?

    Pretty much, and I've got nothing to say or contribute.

    And silence cannot be misquoted...


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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Ray Quinn on Sun Jan 21 09:07:14 2018
    Pretty much, and I've got nothing to say or contribute.

    And silence cannot be misquoted...



    Sometime silence can say a lot :-) That silence is suspicious :-D

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to ENNEV on Sun Jan 21 13:13:00 2018
    Sometime silence can say a lot :-) That silence is suspicious :-D

    Especially if you have a dachshund. <BG>

    Daryl

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Daryl Stout on Sun Jan 21 20:56:46 2018
    Sometime silence can say a lot :-) That silence is suspicious :-D

    Especially if you have a dachshund. <BG>


    that's a good one :-D

    Mine is when i see my dogs with pittyful ears waiting in her basket.

    Then i say "Oh! what are you guilty about?"

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to ENNEV on Mon Jan 22 11:03:00 2018
    Sometime silence can say a lot :-) That silence is suspicious :-D

    Especially if you have a dachshund. <BG>


    that's a good one :-D

    Mine is when i see my dogs with pittyful ears waiting in her basket.

    Then i say "Oh! what are you guilty about?"

    Or when they fart, they look at you, like YOU did it. Or, when they
    hear it, they turn their head, trying to figure out what that noise was.
    :P Most dogs...especially dachshunds...can drop SBD bombs that will
    clear a room, if not make your eyes water!!

    Daryl

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  • From Articulas@VERT/THERATTS to Ennev on Tue Jan 23 16:08:37 2018
    Re: About Radio
    By: Ennev to MRO on Thu Jan 11 2018 09:28 am

    i worked one hour today. the rest was at my desk on facebook or listening to the radio

    About radio I've dusted out my old shortwave receiver and I was shock about the silence, a lot have stations stopped service. Sad, our democracies shoul still broadcast, for many with theirs governments blocking the internet that was a way to circumvent somehow the censorship (they could try jamming, but not has efficient as cutting the wires).

    Oddly enough there is a S%17 load of Chinese stations.

    There are tons of chinese BBS' as well. In a world so large many are willing to trade liberty for safety, and a fist full of foodstamps.

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  • From Vaclav@VERT/DIGDIST to Daryl Stout on Sun Jan 28 13:37:00 2018
    Daryl Stout wrote to ENNEV <=-

    I had a Bearcat 210 XL Scanner years ago...loved it.

    Most of the police, fire, etc. have gone to truncated 800 Mhz frequencies now, though.

    I have a 210XLT (the next version up), it was my first scanner. I still use it to monitor Winnipeg Transit's radio traffic on days of inclement weather. Much better than using their app, as it gives context as to *why* your bus is late (roads, accidents, hazards, breakdowns, etc).



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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Vaclav on Sun Jan 28 20:09:27 2018
    I have a 210XLT (the next version up), it was my first scanner. I still
    use it to monitor Winnipeg Transit's radio traffic on days of inclement weather. Much better than using their app, as it gives context as to *why* your bus is late (roads, accidents, hazards, breakdowns, etc).

    I wonder why there are saving all the lower frequencies now? TV moved up and others services.

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to VACLAV on Mon Jan 29 09:04:00 2018
    I have a 210XLT (the next version up), it was my first scanner. I still use V>to monitor Winnipeg Transit's radio traffic on days of inclement weather. Mu V>better than using their app, as it gives context as to *why* your bus is late V>(roads, accidents, hazards, breakdowns, etc).

    That makes sense.

    Daryl

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ENNEV on Mon Jan 29 18:01:00 2018
    I wonder why there are saving all the lower frequencies now? TV moved up and others services.

    When TV moved it, it was supposedly so they could resell those frequencies
    to other commercial interests. I assumed it was phones but who knows.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Mon Jan 29 22:54:06 2018
    Re: Re: About Radio
    By: Dumas Walker to ENNEV on Mon Jan 29 2018 06:01 pm

    I wonder why there are saving all the lower frequencies now? TV moved up and others services.

    When TV moved it, it was supposedly so they could resell those frequencies to other commercial interests. I assumed it was phones but who knows.



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  • From Tiny@VERT/PHARCYDE to MRO on Tue Jan 30 10:06:38 2018
    Quoting MRO to Dumas Walker <=-

    there's money in them thar bands.

    There's even been offers on the band we own at work. We only use it now
    as backup, but when we used the 2-way radio's for many many years full
    time. They didn't offer the boss quite enough for it yet, but time will
    tell!

    Shawn

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  • From Ennev@VERT/MTLGEEK to Dumas Walker on Wed Jan 31 06:59:53 2018
    When TV moved it, it was supposedly so they could resell those frequencies to other commercial interests. I assumed it was phones but who knows.

    You would think that for mobile service in more remote area that using lower frequencies would have made sense.

    Guess not :-/

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