• I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi

    From Grymmjack@VERT to All on Fri Mar 15 16:52:48 2019
    Hi there.

    I'm grymmjack a/k/a Rick :)

    I am old, and nostalgic.

    I feel very out of touch but I think a lot of us will.

    It's a funny thing! The older I get the more I want to retreat back into the past. I can understand where my dad was coming from now.

    I've spent hours on archive.org looking at old computer magazines lately.

    Anyway...

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  • From Dmxrob@VERT/STLWEST to Grymmjack on Sat Mar 16 08:47:04 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: Grymmjack to All on Fri Mar 15 2019 04:52 pm

    It's a funny thing! The older I get the more I want to retreat back into the past. I can understand where my dad was coming from now.

    I think that is a normal part of "getting older". All of us look back and remember the "good old days" -- things change, and it is comforting in many ways to look back on those earlier years to a time when things were more "normal" in our minds.

    Trust me, I do it all the time too -- you are not alone!


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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to Dmxrob on Sat Mar 16 11:54:22 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: Dmxrob to Grymmjack on Sat Mar 16 2019 08:47 am


    I think that is a normal part of "getting older". All of us look back and remember the "good old days" -- things change, and it is comforting in many ways to look back on those earlier years to a time when things were more "normal" in our minds.


    We are getting older, most of us are in our late thirties to early fifties, and now we have something different to say that remains
    outside societies norms. Social networking today is a gross perversion of what we did in the 80s and 90s while on a much larger
    scale. It's my belief that we are too connected, our lives are too intertwined, and it isn't bettering society but making it
    worse. Back in "our days", if we wanted to complain about something, we'd hop on a BBS, post a few messages, play a few games,
    chat with a few friends around town, logoff, and go to the arcade or watch some television. Now, everyone knows what's going on.
    Everything has become impersonal. Will BBSes ever become mainstream again? No. Could society change for the better? No. We
    just need to bring our "normal" back into the light.

    Dream Master

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Grymmjack on Sat Mar 16 13:06:00 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Grymmjack to All on Fri Mar 15 2019 04:52 pm

    Hi there.

    I'm grymmjack a/k/a Rick :)

    I am old, and nostalgic.

    I feel very out of touch but I think a lot of us will.

    It's a funny thing! The older I get the more I want to retreat back into the past. I can understand where my dad was coming from now.

    I've spent hours on archive.org looking at old computer magazines lately.

    Anyway...

    *waves*

    Welcome to the board! Archive.org is a cool site. I like watching old episodes of the Computer Chronicles, especially from the 1980's when alot of t echnology was new and part of any tech show was a cetain level optimism and specualtion on the future. One episode featured an portable with an LCD
    panel larger than 4 rows of 80 columns. The product rep explained larger
    LCD's can be made my combining several smaller displays into a larger one,
    then adding controllers to get them all talking. He specualted color LCD's were right around the corner and large screen high definition digital
    displays were 20 years away. Another guest on the show laughed at him.

    Anyways, welcome aboard and have fun!

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Grymmjack on Sun Mar 17 13:30:00 2019
    On 03-15-19 16:52, Grymmjack wrote to All <=-

    @VIA: VERT
    Hi there.

    I'm grymmjack a/k/a Rick :)

    I am old, and nostalgic.

    Welcome aboard. "old" is a rubbery definition. I'm 50, but I don't feel like it. Very much young at heart. ;)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Dmxrob on Sun Mar 17 14:05:00 2019
    On 03-16-19 08:47, Dmxrob wrote to Grymmjack <=-

    I think that is a normal part of "getting older". All of us look back
    and remember the "good old days" -- things change, and it is comforting
    in many ways to look back on those earlier years to a time when things were more "normal" in our minds.

    I like to remember the past, but I'm still very much looking to the future too.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dream Master on Sun Mar 17 20:45:15 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: Dream Master to Dmxrob on Sat Mar 16 2019 11:54 am

    No. Could society change for the better? No. We
    just need to bring our "normal" back into the light.

    Dream Master



    just so you know there's a guy already using the name dream master
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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to MRO on Mon Mar 18 09:30:36 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: MRO to Dream Master on Sun Mar 17 2019 08:45 pm

    just so you know there's a guy already using the name dream master

    I've been using Dream Master (originally styled as dreamastr when BBSs only supported 9 characters) since 1989 (originally on
    MedCom and others throughout Southern California). Although I am more than willing to return to "dreamastr", since 30 years have
    passed and people may have taken my handle, the reality is that my original BBS created all those years ago was and will continue
    to be called "Caught in a Dream". Further, the BBS List found on textfiles.com indicates "Caught in a Dream" existed between 1992
    and 1994, it officially started in 1989 as a Wildcat! system and migrated to Synchronet in 1991 (thanks Rob for the 250-line count
    license after convincing me to dump my Wildcat! software). :)

    If the other Dream Master cares to share, I'm good. If not, I'm willing to return to my roots.

    Dream Master


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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to MRO on Mon Mar 18 09:42:19 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: Dream Master to MRO on Mon Mar 18 2019 09:30 am

    I've been using Dream Master (originally styled as dreamastr when BBSs only supported 9 characters) since 1989 (originally on
    MedCom and others throughout Southern California). Although I am more than willing to return to "dreamastr", since 30 years have
    passed and people may have taken my handle, the reality is that my original BBS created all those years ago was and will continue
    to be called "Caught in a Dream". Further, the BBS List found on textfiles.com indicates "Caught in a Dream" existed between 1992
    and 1994, it officially started in 1989 as a Wildcat! system and migrated to Synchronet in 1991 (thanks Rob for the 250-line count
    license after convincing me to dump my Wildcat! software). :)

    If the other Dream Master cares to share, I'm good. If not, I'm willing to return to my roots.

    Dream Master

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dream Master on Mon Mar 18 13:16:47 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: Dream Master to MRO on Mon Mar 18 2019 09:30 am

    just so you know there's a guy already using the name dream master

    I've been using Dream Master (originally styled as dreamastr when BBSs only supported 9 characters) since 1989 (originally on
    MedCom and others throughout Southern California). Although I am more than willing to return to "dreamastr", since 30 years have
    passed and people may have taken my handle, the reality is that my

    I actually don't recall seeing anyone else on Dove-Net using the handle "Dream Master". So I think you should be okay using it.

    Nightfox

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dream Master on Mon Mar 18 13:55:13 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: Dream Master to MRO on Mon Mar 18 2019 09:30 am


    If the other Dream Master cares to share, I'm good. If not, I'm willing to return to my roots.

    You could go back to BBS roots and be Dream Master/415 (or whatever your area code is)

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  • From Dmxrob@VERT/STLWEST to Dream Master on Mon Mar 18 16:18:20 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: Dream Master to MRO on Mon Mar 18 2019 09:30 am

    If the other Dream Master cares to share, I'm good. If not, I'm willing to return to my roots.

    You do what makes you happy. If the userid is available, which it appears it was, then you are golden in my book.


    dmxrob þ BBSing from St. Louis, Missouri since 1988

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to MRO on Mon Mar 18 18:12:35 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: MRO to Dream Master on Sun Mar 17 2019 08:45 pm

    Dream Master

    just so you know there's a guy already using the name dream master

    Wait, have we finally hit critical mass again where nick duplication is an issue? I haven't seen that happen in the BBS world since the late 90s.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Dan Clough@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Mon Mar 18 16:58:00 2019
    Nightfox wrote to Dream Master <=-

    just so you know there's a guy already using the name dream master

    I've been using Dream Master (originally styled as dreamastr when BBSs only supported 9 characters) since 1989 (originally on
    MedCom and others throughout Southern California). Although I am more than willing to return to "dreamastr", since 30 years have
    passed and people may have taken my handle, the reality is that my

    I actually don't recall seeing anyone else on Dove-Net using the
    handle "Dream Master". So I think you should be okay using it.

    Ditto.



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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Dream Master on Mon Mar 18 20:26:04 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: Dream Master to MRO on Mon Mar 18 2019 09:30 am

    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: MRO to Dream Master on Sun Mar 17 2019 08:45 pm

    just so you know there's a guy already using the name dream master

    I've been using Dream Master (originally styled as dreamastr when BBSs only supported 9 characters) since 1989 (originally on
    MedCom and others throughout Southern California). Although I am more than willing to return to "dreamastr", since 30 years have
    passed and people may have taken my handle, the reality is that my original BBS created all those years ago was and will continue
    to be called "Caught in a Dream". Further, the BBS List found on textfiles.com indicates "Caught in a Dream" existed between 1992
    and 1994, it officially started in 1989 as a Wildcat! system and migrated to Synchronet in 1991 (thanks Rob for the 250-line count
    license after convincing me to dump my Wildcat! software). :)

    If the other Dream Master cares to share, I'm good. If not, I'm willing to return to my roots.

    And I'm pretty sure we met before at Rock'n'Java... at least once, right?

    I can vouch for Brian... he's the *original* Dream Master. :-)

    digital man

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dream Master on Mon Mar 18 23:56:38 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: Dream Master to MRO on Mon Mar 18 2019 09:30 am

    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: MRO to Dream Master on Sun Mar 17 2019 08:45 pm

    just so you know there's a guy already using the name dream master

    I've been using Dream Master (originally styled as dreamastr when BBSs only supported 9 characters) since 1989 (originally on
    MedCom and others throughout Southern California). Although I am more than

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Mon Mar 18 23:57:28 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: Nightfox to Dream Master on Mon Mar 18 2019 01:16 pm

    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: Dream Master to MRO on Mon Mar 18 2019 09:30 am

    just so you know there's a guy already using the name dream master

    I've been using Dream Master (originally styled as dreamastr when BBSs only supported 9 characters) since 1989 (originally on
    MedCom and others throughout Southern California). Although I am more than willing to return to "dreamastr", since 30 years have
    passed and people may have taken my handle, the reality is that my

    I actually don't recall seeing anyone else on Dove-Net using the handle "Dream Master". So I think you should be okay using it.


    i think he has.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dmxrob on Mon Mar 18 23:57:54 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: Dmxrob to Dream Master on Mon Mar 18 2019 04:18 pm

    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: Dream Master to MRO on Mon Mar 18 2019 09:30 am

    If the other Dream Master cares to share, I'm good. If not, I'm willing to return to my roots.

    You do what makes you happy. If the userid is available, which it appears it was, then you are golden in my book.


    well anybody can be dmxrob too
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dan Clough on Mon Mar 18 23:58:34 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Dan Clough to Nightfox on Mon Mar 18 2019 04:58 pm


    I actually don't recall seeing anyone else on Dove-Net using the
    handle "Dream Master". So I think you should be okay using it.

    Ditto.


    you just got here a month ago, new guy
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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to DaiTengu on Mon Mar 18 23:18:57 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: DaiTengu to MRO on Mon Mar 18 2019 06:12 pm

    Wait, have we finally hit critical mass again where nick duplication is an issue? I haven't seen that happen in the BBS world since the late 90s.

    Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha.

    Late 90s, holy crap. I've been doing this so long that my gray hairs have gray hairs.


    Dream Master

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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to Nightfox on Mon Mar 18 23:23:07 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: Nightfox to Dream Master on Mon Mar 18 2019 01:16 pm

    I actually don't recall seeing anyone else on Dove-Net using the handle "Dream Master". So I think you should be okay using it.

    There is someone who last posted in 2015 from Dreamland BBS. It is still up and running from the last look of it. As always, I'm not a fan of stepping on peoples toes and if he doesn't mind sharing, I'll be happy to share. :)

    (and, if you really want to go there, have digital man pull out the archive of his BBS from the early 90s, you're bound to find something from me in there.)


    Dream Master

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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Mar 18 23:24:11 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dream Master on Mon Mar 18 2019 01:55 pm

    You could go back to BBS roots and be Dream Master/415 (or whatever your area code is)

    Oh, crap, Dream Master/714. LOL ... Now it would be either 303 or 720 seeing that Denver, Colorado has had two area codes for some time. Honestly, with everyone being IP based, should we just give our IPv4 or IPv6? LOL


    Dream Master

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  • From Dan Clough@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Tue Mar 19 08:10:00 2019
    MRO wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    I actually don't recall seeing anyone else on Dove-Net using the
    handle "Dream Master". So I think you should be okay using it.

    Ditto.

    you just got here a month ago, new guy

    Haha! Please try harder to get a clue, wouldja?

    My board has been up 4+ months, and I was a user on other BBS's,
    reading DoveNet, for far longer than that.

    Yeah, I know, 4 months isn't long for a BBS. I also ran a FidoNet
    BBS back in the early 90's for several years. Did you?


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  • From Dmxrob@VERT/STLWEST to MRO on Tue Mar 19 10:47:40 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: MRO to Dmxrob on Mon Mar 18 2019 11:57 pm

    well anybody can be dmxrob too

    And your point is?

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dream Master on Tue Mar 19 09:09:09 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: Dream Master to Nightfox on Mon Mar 18 2019 11:23 pm

    There is someone who last posted in 2015 from Dreamland BBS. It is still up and running from the last look of it. As always, I'm not a fan of stepping on peoples toes and if he doesn't mind sharing, I'll be happy to share. :)

    About a year or 2 ago, there was another person using the handle 'Nightfox' who appeared on Dove-Net. After all the years I've been using that handle (since 1994 on my first BBS), that was the first time I had ever seen another Nightfox on a BBS. He seems to have disappeared though..

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Tue Mar 19 09:13:05 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: MRO to Dan Clough on Mon Mar 18 2019 11:58 pm

    I actually don't recall seeing anyone else on Dove-Net using the
    handle "Dream Master". So I think you should be okay using it.

    Ditto.

    you just got here a month ago, new guy

    He could have gone back and looked at old messages..

    Nightfox

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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to Digital Man on Tue Mar 19 12:53:37 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: Digital Man to Dream Master on Mon Mar 18 2019 08:26 pm

    And I'm pretty sure we met before at Rock'n'Java... at least once, right?

    I can vouch for Brian... he's the *original* Dream Master. :-)

    Thanks Rob, I appreciate it. Let's see, I think the first time I met you was when you had the "BBS in the Garage" out in Brea. God, that was a long time ago.


    Dream Master

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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to MRO on Tue Mar 19 12:57:01 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: MRO to Dan Clough on Mon Mar 18 2019 11:58 pm

    you just got here a month ago, new guy

    I finally found the time to restart the BBS after all these years. Instead of running everything onsite I opted to go the AWS route. Not only does it give me the opportunity to exploit my "cloud" knowledge, it also let's me have as many servers as I want without having the wife yell at me for using all the electricity. The last time I kept a server farm in the basement, OH GOD!!! At least cable management was good. ;)


    Dream Master

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  • From Dmxrob@VERT/STLWEST to Dream Master on Tue Mar 19 14:34:07 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Dream Master to MRO on Tue Mar 19 2019 12:57 pm

    give me the opportunity to exploit my "cloud" knowledge, it also let's me have as many servers as I want without having the wife yell at me for using all the electricity. The last time I kept a server farm in the basement, OH

    Did that, got the bill, said "electricity is cheaper" and switched back. For small workloads, AWS/Azure/Google is great, but for what I want to do it was costing a fortune. I brought up a Hadoop system in AWS and just about went bankrupt trying to pay for the thing.


    dmxrob þ BBSing from St. Louis, Missouri since 1988

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Dream Master on Tue Mar 19 12:52:55 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: Dream Master to Digital Man on Tue Mar 19 2019 12:53 pm

    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: Digital Man to Dream Master on Mon Mar 18 2019 08:26 pm

    And I'm pretty sure we met before at Rock'n'Java... at least once, right?

    I can vouch for Brian... he's the *original* Dream Master. :-)

    Thanks Rob, I appreciate it. Let's see, I think the first time I met you was when you had the "BBS in the Garage" out in Brea. God, that was a long time ago.

    That's right! My guess is '91 or '92... A lifetime ago now, gone so quick.
    Glad to see you back!

    digital man

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dream Master on Tue Mar 19 12:39:54 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Dream Master to MRO on Tue Mar 19 2019 12:57 pm

    I finally found the time to restart the BBS after all these years. Instead of running everything onsite I opted to go the AWS route. Not only does it give me the opportunity to exploit my "cloud" knowledge, it also let's me have as many servers as I want without having the wife yell at me for using all the electricity. The last time I kept a server farm in the basement, OH GOD!!! At least cable management was good. ;)

    What about the expense of paying for an AWS server?
    One time I used a device to measure how much electricity my BBS machine was using, and it turned out it's fairly cheap to keep running. It's a smaller PC, and it doesn't use a whole lot of electricity. I don't have a whole collection of servers though, mainly just my BBS machine. :)

    Nightfox

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  • From Dream Master@VERT to Dmxrob on Tue Mar 19 17:48:02 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Dmxrob to Dream Master on Tue Mar 19 2019 02:34 pm

    Did that, got the bill, said "electricity is cheaper" and switched back.
    For small workloads, AWS/Azure/Google is great, but for what I want to do it was costing a fortune. I brought up a Hadoop system in AWS and just about went bankrupt trying to pay for the thing.

    In that case, I understand. There is a lot of logical reasoning to build-out in the basement or garage, but for my purpose, I never actually saw it.
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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to Digital Man on Tue Mar 19 19:24:57 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: Digital Man to Dream Master on Tue Mar 19 2019 12:52 pm

    That's right! My guess is '91 or '92... A lifetime ago now, gone so quick. Glad to see you back!

    Yep, that was about 1991 or 1992. Oh, God, how old am I now... LOL

    Thank you. Right now, it's all about getting everything squared away on the site. Hell, all my outbound e-mail is SPF/DMARC compliant... that took a freakin' day. Now dealing with Fido.

    See you around...

    Dream Master

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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to Nightfox on Tue Mar 19 19:26:12 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Nightfox to Dream Master on Tue Mar 19 2019 12:39 pm

    What about the expense of paying for an AWS server?

    Ahh, great question. I spend between $5 and $10 a month but I spin up servers all the time and the number will go up and down but not by much.

    Dream Master

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dream Master on Tue Mar 19 20:14:46 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Dream Master to Nightfox on Tue Mar 19 2019 07:26 pm

    What about the expense of paying for an AWS server?

    Ahh, great question. I spend between $5 and $10 a month but I spin up servers all the time and the number will go up and down but not by much.

    I suppose for one instance it probably isn't that much.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dream Master on Tue Mar 19 20:24:03 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Dream Master to Dmxrob on Tue Mar 19 2019 05:48 pm

    Did that, got the bill, said "electricity is cheaper" and switched
    back. For small workloads, AWS/Azure/Google is great, but for what I
    want to do it was costing a fortune. I brought up a Hadoop system in
    AWS and just about went bankrupt trying to pay for the thing.

    In that case, I understand. There is a lot of logical reasoning to build-out in the basement or garage, but for my purpose, I never actually saw it.

    I currently have my main desktop PC and BBS PC in a spare bedroom in my house. It seems to work fairly well.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dan Clough on Tue Mar 19 22:56:40 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Dan Clough to MRO on Tue Mar 19 2019 08:10 am

    you just got here a month ago, new guy

    Haha! Please try harder to get a clue, wouldja?

    My board has been up 4+ months, and I was a user on other BBS's,


    OHHH OHHH OHHH.... I STAND CORRECTED!

    GOOD FOR YOU!

    Yeah, I know, 4 months isn't long for a BBS. I also ran a FidoNet
    BBS back in the early 90's for several years. Did you?

    WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK. OF COURSE I WAS A MEMBER OF THAT SHIT NETWORK.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dmxrob on Tue Mar 19 22:59:10 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: Dmxrob to MRO on Tue Mar 19 2019 10:47 am

    Re: I don't recognize a lot of you, but hi
    By: MRO to Dmxrob on Mon Mar 18 2019 11:57 pm

    well anybody can be dmxrob too

    And your point is?


    you said

    "You do what makes you happy. If the userid is available, which it appears it was, then you are golden in my book."

    anybody can make a user on any bbs with that name, or their own.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Tue Mar 19 23:01:21 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Tue Mar 19 2019 09:13 am


    I actually don't recall seeing anyone else on Dove-Net using the Ni>> handle "Dream Master". So I think you should be okay using it.

    Ditto.

    you just got here a month ago, new guy

    He could have gone back and looked at old messages..


    monkeys could fly out of my butt
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dream Master on Tue Mar 19 23:03:26 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Dream Master to MRO on Tue Mar 19 2019 12:57 pm

    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: MRO to Dan Clough on Mon Mar 18 2019 11:58 pm

    you just got here a month ago, new guy

    I finally found the time to restart the BBS after all these years. Instead of running everything onsite I opted to go the AWS route. Not only does it give me the opportunity to exploit my "cloud" knowledge, it also let's me have as many servers as I want without having the wife yell at me for using all the electricity. The last time I kept a server farm in the basement, OH GOD!!! At least cable management was good. ;)


    a lot of bbs people tried that out, i dont think anybody stayed with it.
    you might want to look into the soyoustart ovh cheap servers.
    or go on lowend box and get a vps
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  • From Dan Clough@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Wed Mar 20 08:26:00 2019
    MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I actually don't recall seeing anyone else on Dove-Net using the Ni>> handle "Dream Master". So I think you should be okay using it.

    Ditto.

    you just got here a month ago, new guy

    He could have gone back and looked at old messages..

    monkeys could fly out of my butt

    You stuff monkeys up your butt?

    Any gerbils up in there?



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  • From Dan Clough@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Wed Mar 20 08:29:00 2019
    MRO wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Yeah, I know, 4 months isn't long for a BBS. I also ran a FidoNet
    BBS back in the early 90's for several years. Did you?

    WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK. OF COURSE I WAS A MEMBER OF THAT SHIT
    NETWORK. ---

    So.... you either type in all small letters, or all caps.
    Perfect.

    What was your Fido node number back then?



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  • From Denn@VERT/OUTWEST to Nightfox on Wed Mar 20 09:45:17 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Nightfox to Dream Master on Tue Mar 19 2019 08:24 pm

    I currently have my main desktop PC and BBS PC in a spare bedroom in my house. It seems to work fairly well.

    My BBS is a thin client PC I got off ebay for $13 that I added a 2.5 HDD to, this thin client PC is mounted to the back of my monitor and uses 12-18w
    it is fanless so can't even hear it.

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  • From Dmxrob@VERT/STLWEST to Denn on Wed Mar 20 12:08:29 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Denn to Nightfox on Wed Mar 20 2019 09:45 am

    My BBS is a thin client PC I got off ebay for $13 that I added a 2.5 HDD to, this thin client PC is mounted to the back of my monitor and uses 12-18w
    it is fanless so can't even hear it.

    This sounds like it would make for an interesting blog post to show folks how you did it!


    dmxrob þ BBSing from St. Louis, Missouri since 1988

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dmxrob on Wed Mar 20 11:42:32 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Dmxrob to Denn on Wed Mar 20 2019 12:08 pm

    My BBS is a thin client PC I got off ebay for $13 that I added a 2.5
    HDD to, this thin client PC is mounted to the back of my monitor and
    uses 12-18w it is fanless so can't even hear it.

    This sounds like it would make for an interesting blog post to show folks how you did it!

    I've seen a couple different kinds of small form-factor PCs on the market that you can mount to the back of a monitor. One is the Intel NUC, which either comes with a VESA monitor mounting bracket or you can order one separately. I saw a furniture store once that was using Intel NUCs mounted to the back of monitors for the employee workstations and thought that was interesting..

    Nightfox

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Denn on Wed Mar 20 11:28:01 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Denn to Nightfox on Wed Mar 20 2019 09:45 am

    My BBS is a thin client PC I got off ebay for $13 that I added a 2.5 HDD to, this thin client PC is mounted to the back of my monitor and uses 12-18w it is fanless so can't even hear it.

    What model is it? I've been tempted to get a thin client and turn it into a retro DOS box.

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  • From Electrosys@VERT/DIGIAQUA to Dream Master on Wed Mar 20 15:24:22 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Dream Master to MRO on Tue Mar 19 2019 12:57 pm

    I finally found the time to restart the BBS after all these years. Instead of running everything onsite I opted to go the AWS route. Not only does it give me the opportunity to exploit my "cloud" knowledge, it also let's me have as many servers as I want without having the wife yell at me for using all the electricity. The last time I kept a server farm in the basement, OH GOD!!! At least cable management was good. ;)

    Welcome (back) to the club. I'm in a similar position. I have Aws knowlege too, but opted to run a Win7 VM on Arch Linux. I'm hoping to switch the board over to Linux (again) before Win7 support ends early next year.

    Running in a VM is nice because it gives you more control over backups and restorations as well as setting up a new system.

    I had a renegade board back in 96'/97' and always felt it was the 'best' internet. Certialy got caught up in the AOL/IRC/Newsgroup explosion though too.

    I discovered syncronet in 2006 when a good friend of mine told me "I think this is what you have been looking for [all these years]" when he shared the link to synchro.net with me. I started setting up my board again around 07'/08' and I have been able to keep her backed up and restored over the years. I got pretty involved with the community back then and expressed a lot of my feelings around some of the things that I felt would really get the software up to par (e.g. long file name support). Ive always felt that the bbs file system is the best way to organize files that are not personal, you can search for them quickly on the bbs system, and I like saving documents and random software programs. The SBBS system is a pretty nice suite. I haven't messed around with the web server much but I find it impressive that the package incorperates so many internet techonologies and its nice to see regular updates to it.

    Electrosys

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Electrosys on Wed Mar 20 17:45:23 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Electrosys to Dream Master on Wed Mar 20 2019 03:24 pm

    I had a renegade board back in 96'/97' and always felt it was the 'best' internet. Certialy got caught up in the AOL/IRC/Newsgroup explosion though too.

    What do you mean by "best internet"? A BBS typically doesn't offer internet services.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dan Clough on Wed Mar 20 20:19:39 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Dan Clough to MRO on Wed Mar 20 2019 08:26 am

    monkeys could fly out of my butt

    You stuff monkeys up your butt?

    Any gerbils up in there?


    oh no, mr nobody is mad and acting out!
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dan Clough on Wed Mar 20 20:19:52 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Dan Clough to MRO on Wed Mar 20 2019 08:29 am

    MRO wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Yeah, I know, 4 months isn't long for a BBS. I also ran a FidoNet
    BBS back in the early 90's for several years. Did you?

    WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK. OF COURSE I WAS A MEMBER OF THAT SHIT NETWORK. ---

    So.... you either type in all small letters, or all caps.
    Perfect.

    What was your Fido node number back then?


    go look it up
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Thu Mar 21 13:29:00 2019
    On 03-20-19 11:42, Nightfox wrote to Dmxrob <=-

    I've seen a couple different kinds of small form-factor PCs on the
    market that you can mount to the back of a monitor. One is the Intel
    NUC, which either comes with a VESA monitor mounting bracket or you can order one separately. I saw a furniture store once that was using
    Intel NUCs mounted to the back of monitors for the employee
    workstations and thought that was interesting..


    I could do that with my Banana Pi (which hosts 2 boards!). If I decide to upgrade, the next tier is to go to an old netbook. Got a heap of those, which are perfect for light workloads like running a BBS.

    I have Magicka running on one of those netbooks. Only problem I'm having is if the router resets, the BBS goes from the static IPs I've configured to a dynamic LAN IP, which is a pain. Seems the fancy network management of Debian 9 has some rough edges.

    For me, there's value in the old fashioned, manual means of network configuration (populating /etc/networks/interfaces, etc). On the Pis, I disabled the network management stuff and went "traditional", but the netbook uses wifi, and working (trying to) with the system is easier for setting up wifi. Should google the issue someday.


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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to Electrosys on Wed Mar 20 20:26:44 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Electrosys to Dream Master on Wed Mar 20 2019 03:24 pm

    I discovered syncronet in 2006 when a good friend of mine told me "I think this is what you have been looking for [all these years]" when he shared the link to synchro.net with me. I started setting up my board again around 07'/08' and I have been able to keep her backed up and restored over the

    Although bragging might be the wrong approach here, but Synchronet offered a lot of flexibility for its time and when it started supporting open protocols, it made it even better. I remember when Rob (digital man) went on hiatus a long time ago. The internet was taking everything over and people were all about AOL (I'd tell people all the time, "get off of AOL, its worthless!").
    You coming back, just like everyone else here, is amazing. We may be a small community, but we are a great and thriving community.

    years. I got pretty involved with the community back then and expressed a lot of my feelings around some of the things that I felt would really get the software up to par (e.g. long file name support). Ive always felt that the bbs file system is the best way to organize files that are not personal, you can search for them quickly on the bbs system, and I like saving documents and random software programs. The SBBS system is a pretty nice suite. I haven't messed around with the web server much but I find it impressive that the package incorperates so many internet techonologies and its nice to see regular updates to it.

    Long filename support would be wonderful as is other functionality that'd make the software better, the problem comes down to support for "doors" and other internal functionality that would take a long time to retrofit. Think Y2K all over again. Hell, I'd like to see the birthdate query go MM/DD/YYYY now that adults could've been born in 2000 (like my oldest son).

    I'm glad you're here and I'm happy to make your acquaintance.

    Dream Master

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  • From Dan Clough@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Thu Mar 21 07:54:00 2019
    MRO wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Yeah, I know, 4 months isn't long for a BBS. I also ran a FidoNet
    BBS back in the early 90's for several years. Did you?

    WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK. OF COURSE I WAS A MEMBER OF THAT SHIT NETWORK. ---

    So.... you either type in all small letters, or all caps.
    Perfect.
    What was your Fido node number back then?

    go look it up

    Well, I thought of that, but Fido requires a real Sysop name in
    the Nodelist.

    Since you don't have the balls to use a real name, "MRO" isn't
    found.

    It's OK. I know you didn't really run a Fido BBS. So does
    everybody else, now. :)



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dan Clough on Thu Mar 21 10:01:08 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Dan Clough to MRO on Thu Mar 21 2019 07:54 am

    Since you don't have the balls to use a real name, "MRO" isn't
    found.

    It's fairly common to use a handle on a BBS.. It's not about having balls or not.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dream Master on Thu Mar 21 20:34:21 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Dream Master to Electrosys on Wed Mar 20 2019 08:26 pm

    a lot of my feelings around some of the things that I felt would really get the software up to par (e.g. long file name support). Ive always
    Long filename support would be wonderful as is other functionality that'd make the software better, the problem comes down to support for "doors" and


    i'm satisfied with what lfn support we have. also there are work arounds. i created my own script setup as a protocol that makes an archive with the batch queue and sends the user the file with lfn intact.

    files arent really that popular now on bbses, anyways. i have mostly a file bbs and real users seem to gravitate towards the doorgames.
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  • From Marisag@VERT/AMIGAC to MRO on Thu Mar 21 22:33:53 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: MRO to Dream Master on Thu Mar 21 2019 20:34:21

    files arent really that popular now on bbses, anyways. i have mostly a file bbs and real users seem to gravitate towards the doorgames.

    I don't see that myself. I get maybe 100 or more average a day downloaded. I've seen it as high as 500 in one day...

    Marisa
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  • From Dan Clough@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Thu Mar 21 20:31:00 2019
    Nightfox wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Since you don't have the balls to use a real name, "MRO" isn't
    found.

    It's fairly common to use a handle on a BBS.. It's not about
    having balls or not.

    Yes, I know that, but you snipped out the rest of the context of
    my message.

    MRO was saying he used to run a Fido BBS back in the day, and told
    me to "look it up". Can't do that with a Fidonet nodelist that
    only uses real names, if he's going by "MRO".



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dan Clough on Fri Mar 22 09:51:38 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Dan Clough to Nightfox on Thu Mar 21 2019 08:31 pm

    MRO was saying he used to run a Fido BBS back in the day, and told
    me to "look it up". Can't do that with a Fidonet nodelist that
    only uses real names, if he's going by "MRO".

    That's true.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Marisag on Fri Mar 22 18:08:51 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Marisag to MRO on Thu Mar 21 2019 10:33 pm

    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: MRO to Dream Master on Thu Mar 21 2019 20:34:21

    files arent really that popular now on bbses, anyways. i have mostly a file bbs and real users seem to gravitate towards the doorgames.

    I don't see that myself. I get maybe 100 or more average a day downloaded. I've seen it as high as 500 in one day...



    i find it hard to believe that people are downloading 100-500 files from your bbs each day.
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  • From Dan Clough@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Fri Mar 22 23:23:09 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Dan Clough to MRO on Thu Mar 21 2019 07:54 am

    MRO wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    What was your Fido node number back then?

    go look it up

    Well, I thought of that, but Fido requires a real Sysop name in
    the Nodelist.

    Since you don't have the balls to use a real name, "MRO" isn't
    found.

    It's OK. I know you didn't really run a Fido BBS. So does
    everybody else, now. :)

    So..... MRO, what was your node number back when you ran a FidoNet BBS? Or, what was your real name as listed in an official FidoNet nodelist.

    How come you won't answer that?

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Dream Master on Tue Apr 30 03:25:32 2019
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Dream Master to Electrosys on Wed Mar 20 2019 20:26:44

    Hell, I'd like to see the birthdate query go MM/DD/YYYY

    i'd love to have a date format choice of YYYY/MM/DD... that's my preferred format for these last 20 years or so since LFNs have been available in my chosen OSes ;)


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Rampage on Wed May 1 15:36:00 2019
    On 04-30-19 03:25, Rampage wrote to Dream Master <=-

    @VIA: VERT/SESTAR
    Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Dream Master to Electrosys on Wed Mar 20 2019 20:26:44

    Hell, I'd like to see the birthdate query go MM/DD/YYYY

    i'd love to have a date format choice of YYYY/MM/DD... that's my
    preferred format for these last 20 years or so since LFNs have been available in my chosen OSes ;)

    I ue the latter a lot for archiving, because the filenames then automatically sort in chronological order (on modern OSs). :)


    ... MS-DOS: MR-DOS's sister; DR DOS: MS-DOS's Gynecologist.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Wed May 1 09:05:26 2019
    Re: Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Vk3jed to Rampage on Wed May 01 2019 03:36 pm

    i'd love to have a date format choice of YYYY/MM/DD... that's my
    preferred format for these last 20 years or so since LFNs have been
    available in my chosen OSes ;)

    I ue the latter a lot for archiving, because the filenames then automatically sort in chronological order (on modern OSs). :)

    I also tend to use that format for the same reason.

    ... MS-DOS: MR-DOS's sister; DR DOS: MS-DOS's Gynecologist.

    haha.. I've heard people pronounce DR-DOS as "Doctor DOS", and I don't think that's correct.

    Nightfox

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Thu May 2 20:36:00 2019
    On 05-01-19 09:05, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I ue the latter a lot for archiving, because the filenames then automatically sort in chronological order (on modern OSs). :)

    I also tend to use that format for the same reason.

    Yes, it's very useful.

    ... MS-DOS: MR-DOS's sister; DR DOS: MS-DOS's Gynecologist.

    haha.. I've heard people pronounce DR-DOS as "Doctor DOS", and I don't think that's correct.

    I'm inclined to agree, because DR stands for "Digital Research", who released DR-DOS.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Vk3jed on Thu May 2 19:52:07 2019
    Re: Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Thu May 02 2019 08:36 pm

    haha.. I've heard people pronounce DR-DOS as "Doctor DOS", and I
    don't think that's correct.

    I'm inclined to agree, because DR stands for "Digital Research", who released DR-DOS.

    Yep, that's correct.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thu May 2 22:42:22 2019
    Re: Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Nightfox to Vk3jed on Wed May 01 2019 09:05 am


    haha.. I've heard people pronounce DR-DOS as "Doctor DOS", and I don't think that's correct.


    i do too and i know what it stands for and i used it.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Fri May 3 06:23:00 2019
    Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    haha.. I've heard people pronounce DR-DOS as "Doctor DOS", and I
    don't think that's correct.

    I'm inclined to agree, because DR stands for "Digital Research", who released DR-DOS.

    Yep, that's correct.

    My co-sysop back in the day worked for Addstor, the people that made a
    disk compression product called SuperStor that competed with
    Microsoft's DriveSpace, and was bundled with DR-DOS. Back then,
    Microsoft used to find all sorts of ways to make Windows 3.1 not
    install on DR-DOS' memory manager, and they had an array of mysterious incompatibilities with SuperStor.

    He called it Doctor DOS; don't know if that's what they called it
    internally.



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri May 3 09:47:53 2019
    Re: Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Fri May 03 2019 06:23 am

    My co-sysop back in the day worked for Addstor, the people that made a disk compression product called SuperStor that competed with
    Microsoft's DriveSpace, and was bundled with DR-DOS. Back then,
    Microsoft used to find all sorts of ways to make Windows 3.1 not
    install on DR-DOS' memory manager, and they had an array of mysterious incompatibilities with SuperStor.

    I had heard of Microsoft doing things to make Windows not run well on competing DOS operating systems.. I never really liked Microsoft doing things like that. Also, back in the day, I remember reading that Microsoft was sued by Stac Electronics (maker of Stacker disk compression software) for using Stacker code in their (Microsoft's) DoubleSpace compression software. Around the time of the lawsuit, I remember Microsoft removing DoubleSpace with MS-DOS 6.21 and then introduced DriveSpace in MS-DOS 6.22.

    Nightfox

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  • From Hawkeye@VERT/MASHBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 4 17:17:04 2019
    Re: Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Fri May 03 2019 06:23:00

    haha.. I've heard people pronounce DR-DOS as "Doctor DOS", and I
    don't think that's correct.

    People here in NL called it also Doctor DOS but they were aware it was Digital Research behind it, I think too long too pronounce.

    My co-sysop back in the day worked for Addstor, the people that made a disk compression product called SuperStor that competed with
    Microsoft's DriveSpace, and was bundled with DR-DOS. Back then,
    Microsoft used to find all sorts of ways to make Windows 3.1 not
    install on DR-DOS' memory manager, and they had an array of mysterious incompatibilities with SuperStor.

    I only remember Stacker and DoubleDrive shipped with MS/PC-DOS. I disabled it on my drives back then: too slow and crash=lost everything never again I swore. lol

    He called it Doctor DOS; don't know if that's what they called it internally.

    We did call it also Doctor... easier to say.
    HAWKEYE

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Hawkeye on Sat May 4 15:14:32 2019
    Re: Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: Hawkeye to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat May 04 2019 05:17 pm

    haha.. I've heard people pronounce DR-DOS as "Doctor DOS", and I
    don't think that's correct.

    People here in NL called it also Doctor DOS but they were aware it was Digital Research behind it, I think too long too pronounce.

    We did call it also Doctor... easier to say.

    I think just calling it DR-DOS is even easier.

    I only remember Stacker and DoubleDrive shipped with MS/PC-DOS. I disabled it on my drives back then: too slow and crash=lost everything never again I swore. lol

    I don't remember a "DoubleDrive", but Microsoft's product shipped with MS-DOS was first DoubleSpace, and then DriveSpace. From what I remember, it was only shipped with MS-DOS and wasn't shipped with PC-DOS. Stacker was a separate product and wasn't shipped with DOS (not sure if that's what you were saying).

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Hawkeye on Sun May 5 09:11:00 2019
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    I only remember Stacker and DoubleDrive shipped with MS/PC-DOS. I
    disabled it on my drives back then: too slow and crash=lost everything never again I swore. lol

    Yeah, I got a free copy of SuperStor from my friend who worked there;
    before Windows 95 I played with GeoWorks, Dr-DOS and SuperStor.
    LANtastic sharing between the BBS and my desktop PC. Nice little setup
    for a while before Windows for Workgroups took off.

    The concern about losing data was real - back then I was backing the
    BBS up on floppies. It wasn't until Windows 95, I think, when I got
    one of those HP Colorado tape drives that ran off of your floppy
    controller.



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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Nightfox on Sun May 5 13:18:00 2019
    On 05-04-19 15:14, Nightfox wrote to Hawkeye <=-

    I think just calling it DR-DOS is even easier.

    Works for me. :)


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun May 5 20:45:23 2019
    Re: Re: I don't recognize a lot o
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Hawkeye on Sun May 05 2019 09:11 am

    The concern about losing data was real - back then I was backing the
    BBS up on floppies. It wasn't until Windows 95, I think, when I got
    one of those HP Colorado tape drives that ran off of your floppy controller.

    I used to have one of those tape drives that used the floppy interface. I don't remember if it was an HP Colorado or something else (perhaps something that was compatible). I remember that tape drive being fairly loud.. In those days I used to think tape drives were pretty awesome though. I liked being able to back up my entire BBS, and also much of my hard drive, onto a single tape rather than sitting at my PC for a couple hours to swap floppy disks.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Mon May 6 06:54:00 2019
    Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    something that was compatible). I remember that tape drive being
    fairly loud..

    fwooooooot <pause> PHWEEEEET!


    In those days I used to think tape drives were pretty
    awesome though. I liked being able to back up my entire BBS, and also much of my hard drive, onto a single tape rather than sitting at my PC
    for a couple hours to swap floppy disks.

    I had that Travan drive, then an HP SCSI DDS-2 tape drive, and later
    one of those HP 5 tape changers which seemed pretty cool at the time.
    All of them were cast-offs from work, it was nice when my company went
    to DLT drives and DDS drives became obsolete.


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