Hi everyone!

I'm sitting in an American Literature of the 19th Century course at the moment, and it got me thinking - when you think of something that's an "American Classic", what's something that immediately springs to mind?

To start the discussion (or lack thereof based on if people actually find interest in responding to such a broad topic), when I think of something that fits that description, it's Walt Whitman's "Song of Myself", or one of those 1950's checkerboard tile diners you can find across the nation.

I wanted to ask because I see a lot of topics talking about what it means to have things like freedom of speech and I found myself asking, well, what's it even mean to be American?

I look forward to hearing from any and all of you.

Wayoul

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Wayoul wrote to All <=-

I'm sitting in an American Literature of the 19th Century course
at the moment, and it got me thinking - when you think of
something that's an "American Classic", what's something that
immediately springs to mind?

Without thinking too much, the first three names that come to my
mind are Charles Dickens, Mark Twain, and Edgar Allen Poe.

Most anything written by any of them are "classics", to me.



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Re: Re: American Classics
By: Gamgee to Wayoul on Fri Oct 11 2019 09:16 pm

I'm sitting in an American Literature of the 19th Century course
at the moment, and it got me thinking - when you think of
something that's an "American Classic", what's something that
immediately springs to mind?

Without thinking too much, the first three names that come to my
mind are Charles Dickens, Mark Twain, and Edgar Allen Poe.

Uhmm I'm pretty sure Charles Dickens is a Brit not American.

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Re: American Classics
By: Wayoul to All on Fri Oct 11 2019 09:08 am

Hi everyone!

I'm sitting in an American Literature of the 19th Century course at the mome and it got me thinking - when you think of something that's an "American Classic", what's something that immediately springs to mind?

To start the discussion (or lack thereof based on if people actually find interest in responding to such a broad topic), when I think of something tha fits that description, it's Walt Whitman's "Song of Myself", or one of those 1950's checkerboard tile diners you can find across the nation.

I wanted to ask because I see a lot of topics talking about what it means to have things like freedom of speech and I found myself asking, well, what's i even mean to be American?

I look forward to hearing from any and all of you.

Wayoul

Interesting question. I feel several of our liberties and other aspects of ea rly Americana have been adopted by several other modernized countires to some degree. We no longer push our students to excel like we did during the space race, and we currently don't have manufacturing power the US has previously been known for. Regarding innovation, look at how many companies operate at a global scale, or have subsidiaries in other countries? How many companies boast about having nearly every piece actually made in the USA?

Of what I imagine what most people are proud of is more of our legacy than where we are now. Ben Franklin once compared the US to the North American rattlesnake. How many creatures in nature have the same ability to strike as hard, yet give ample warning to an intruder to either walk away or be struck?
Several times in history Americans have stood up against others who have chal lenged our way of life, and we have left a lasting impression.

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: Gamgee to Wayoul on Fri Oct 11 2019 09:16 pm

I'm sitting in an American Literature of the 19th Century course
at the moment, and it got me thinking - when you think of
something that's an "American Classic", what's something that
immediately springs to mind?

Without thinking too much, the first three names that come to my
mind are Charles Dickens, Mark Twain, and Edgar Allen Poe.

Uhmm I'm pretty sure Charles Dickens is a Brit not American.

Ooops, yep. I was focused on the 19th Century part of the
question, I guess. :-)



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I'm sitting in an American Literature of the 19th Century course
at the moment, and it got me thinking - when you think of
something that's an "American Classic", what's something that immediately springs to mind?

Without thinking too much, the first three names that come to my
mind are Charles Dickens, Mark Twain, and Edgar Allen Poe.

Most anything written by any of them are "classics", to me.

Yes, but Dickens is not an "American Classic." :)

As far as Americans go, I would choose the works of Raymond Chandler.

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As far as Americans go, I would choose the works of Raymond Chandler.

Then we'd have to add Maxwell Grant too (writer of The Shadow stories).

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Wayoul wrote to All <=-

I'm sitting in an American Literature of the 19th Century course at the moment, and it got me thinking - when you think of something that's an "American Classic", what's something that immediately springs to mind?

Edgar Rice Burroughs.

I think Philip K. Dick would fit as a "classic" by now.

Then there's Zane Grey, Robert E. Howard, and Jack London.

And Halloween is approaching, so Washington Irving (Sleepy Hallow, Rip Van Winkle) comes to mind too.

I'll stop at the "L"s in my list of books now.


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Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

I'm sitting in an American Literature of the 19th Century course
at the moment, and it got me thinking - when you think of
something that's an "American Classic", what's something that immediately springs to mind?

Without thinking too much, the first three names that come to my
mind are Charles Dickens, Mark Twain, and Edgar Allen Poe.
Most anything written by any of them are "classics", to me.

Yes, but Dickens is not an "American Classic." :)

Yes, I realized that after sending... :-) I think I was just
focused on the 19th Century part.

As far as Americans go, I would choose the works of Raymond
Chandler.

Good choice. Did a quick google on him and he certainly had an
interesting life.



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Wayoul wrote to All <=-

Hi everyone!

I'm sitting in an American Literature of the 19th Century course at the moment, and it got me thinking - when you think of something that's an "American Classic", what's something that immediately springs to mind?

"Last of the Mohicans"
"Tom Sawyer" or "Huck. Finn"
"Little House on the Prairie"
"The Red Badge of Courage"
"The Raven" or "The Cask of Amontillado"
"The Headless Horseman"
are a few I liked

Some say "Mobe Dick" butreading that was like eating cardboard. I think you could cut that down to like 12 chapters and it would be a good story.

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Re: American Classics
By: Wayoul to All on Fri Oct 11 2019 09:08:14

I'm sitting in an American Literature of the 19th Century course at the moment, and it got me thinking - when you think of something that's an "American Classic", what's something that immediately springs to mind?

TV:
-Sopranos; The Wire; Late-night TV (over the years)

Literature:
-Working by Studs Terkle

Although I might not be applying "American" the same way, since my comments are more recent things. I wold say things like the Federalist Papers, Walden, (Mark Twain (take your pick))

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As far as Americans go, I would choose the works of Raymond Chandler.

Then we'd have to add Maxwell Grant too (writer of The Shadow stories).

Would that be the same Shadow that was also a radio broadcast series back
in the day?

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And Halloween is approaching, so Washington Irving (Sleepy Hallow, Rip Van Winkle) comes to mind too.

Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, too.

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Yes, but Dickens is not an "American Classic." :)

Yes, I realized that after sending... :-) I think I was just
focused on the 19th Century part.

I figured you just missed that bit. :)

As far as Americans go, I would choose the works of Raymond
Chandler.

Good choice. Did a quick google on him and he certainly had an
interesting life.

Seems like being an author and and alcoholic leads one to having an
interesting life.

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Dumas Walker wrote to DR. WHAT <=-

Then we'd have to add Maxwell Grant too (writer of The Shadow stories).

Would that be the same Shadow that was also a radio broadcast series
back in the day?

Yup. That's the one. The early Shadow stories are really good crime stories.


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Dumas Walker wrote to DR. WHAT <=-

And Halloween is approaching, so Washington Irving (Sleepy Hallow, Rip Van Winkle) comes to mind too.

Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, too.

I never really read anything by him. Poetry is lost on me.


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Re: Re: American Classics
By: Dr. What to Dumas Walker on Mon Oct 14 2019 18:04:00

Would that be the same Shadow that was also a radio broadcast series back in the day?

Yup. That's the one. The early Shadow stories are really good crime stories.

I have a bunch of those radio shows available for download. Let me know if you are interested...

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I remember some of the old books I read in my high school days:

1984 by George Orwell
Animal Farm by George Orwell
The Outsiders by Susan Eloise Hinton

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The Millionaire wrote to Marisag <=-

I remember some of the old books I read in my high school days:

1984 by George Orwell
Animal Farm by George Orwell
The Outsiders by Susan Eloise Hinton

Ahhhh..... The Outsiders! One of my favorites.


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Ahhhh..... The Outsiders! One of my favorites.

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The movie was good also. All star studded cast. God I miss the 80’s. They were the best times of my life.

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: The Millionaire to Thumper on Tue Oct 15 2019 09:35 am

The movie was good also. All star studded cast. God I miss the 80's. They were the best times of my life.

I think the 80s had a lot of great movies and music. But nostalgia may be adding to the appeal these days. Sometimes I think it's easy to look back and feel like something was great, when we didn't always feel that way about it at the time. It's like you don't know what you have until it's gone.

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: The Millionaire to Thumper on Tue Oct 15 2019 09:35 am

I think the 80s had a lot of great movies and music. But nostalgia may be adding to the appeal these days. Sometimes I think it's easy to look back and feel like something was great, when we didn't always feel that way about it at the time. It's like you don't know what you have until it's gone.

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Yeah. Tell me about it. I wish I could build a time machine. Then I’d go back to the 80’s and never return again. :-)

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I remember some of the old books I read in my high school days:

1984 by George Orwell
Animal Farm by George Orwell
The Outsiders by Susan Eloise Hinton

I read the first two. Animal Farm is the only one I have read again since
(at least twice). A couple of other books I read in school and liked
enough to read/buy again later:

"The Miller's Tale" from "The Canterbury Tales" by Chaucer
"Winesburg, Ohio" (I cannot remember the author's name right now)
"The Great Gatsby" by F.Scott Fitzgerald

Most of the others were not books I really cared for, and I really
struggled to finish them (if I finished them!).

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I read the first two. Animal Farm is the only one I have read again since (at least twice). A couple of other books I read in school and liked
enough to read/buy again later:

"The Miller's Tale" from "The Canterbury Tales" by Chaucer
"Winesburg, Ohio" (I cannot remember the author's name right now)
"The Great Gatsby" by F.Scott Fitzgerald

Most of the others were not books I really cared for, and I really
struggled to finish them (if I finished them!).

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Well I found 1984 being 300 pages was a lot for what he trying to portray. 200 would have been sufficient.

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Yeah. Tell me about it. I wish I could build a time machine. Then I'd go back to the 80's and never return again. :-)

I might not be happy with the way things are now, but I am not sure there
is a decade that I have lived through that I would want to go back to, especially if I was that age again. My memories of most of the 80's are
not so fond. 1980 maybe. 1987 maybe. The rest of it I think not.

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: Dumas Walker to THE MILLIONAIRE on Tue Oct 15 2019 05:21 pm

I remember some of the old books I read in my high school days:

1984 by George Orwell
Animal Farm by George Orwell
The Outsiders by Susan Eloise Hinton

I read the first two. Animal Farm is the only one I have read again since (at least twice). A couple of other books I read in school and liked
enough to read/buy again later:

"The Miller's Tale" from "The Canterbury Tales" by Chaucer
"Winesburg, Ohio" (I cannot remember the author's name right now)
"The Great Gatsby" by F.Scott Fitzgerald

Most of the others were not books I really cared for, and I really
struggled to finish them (if I finished them!).

I liked some of Hemingways work, and John Steinbeck

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On 10-15-19 04:49, The Millionaire wrote to Marisag <=-

@VIA: VERT
I remember some of the old books I read in my high school days:

1984 by George Orwell
Animal Farm by George Orwell

These two are great social commentary. Definitely must read books.

I got to read 1984 in..... 1984, as part of my Year 11 English studies. :)


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Re: Re: American Classics
By: The Millionaire to Thumper on Tue Oct 15 2019 09:35 am

The movie was good also. All star studded cast. God I miss the 80's. They were the best times of my life.

I think the 80s had a lot of great movies and music. But nostalgia may
be adding to the appeal these days. Sometimes I think it's easy to
look back and feel like something was great, when we didn't always feel that way about it at the time. It's like you don't know what you have until it's gone.

I have a lot of fond memories of the 80s. Sure, what exists today is the stuff od science fiction dreams of those days, but there's something about the 80s. I still listen to a lot of 80s music. :)


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The Millionaire wrote to Nightfox <=-

I think the 80s had a lot of great movies and music. But nostalgia may be adding to the appeal these days. Sometimes I think it's easy to look back and feel like something was great, when we didn't always feel that way about it at the time. It's like you don't know what you have until it's gone.

Yeah. Tell me about it. I wish I could build a time machine. Then I'd
go back to the 80's and never return again. :-)

But that's the trap of nostalgia. We tend to remember the good things but downplay the bad things.


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Dumas Walker wrote to THE MILLIONAIRE <=-

Most of the others were not books I really cared for, and I really struggled to finish them (if I finished them!).

Life is too short to read bad books. Since I was always a good reader, I found that:
1. English teachers have AWFUL taste in books.
2. Many "classics" simply do not translate well for today's society.

The good news is that I discovered many other "classic" books that are really good - Like Charles Alden Seltzer (Project Gutenberg) who writes really good westerns.

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Vk3jed wrote to Nightfox <=-

I have a lot of fond memories of the 80s. Sure, what exists today is
the stuff od science fiction dreams of those days, but there's
something about the 80s. I still listen to a lot of 80s music. :)

I felt like the advent of digital synths in the late 70s and early 80s meant that people could make sounds that people hadn't put to music before. I
loved the whole new-wave movement from the early 80s; there seemed a breadth of music I haven't heard since.


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Dr. What wrote to The Millionaire <=-

But that's the trap of nostalgia. We tend to remember the good things
but downplay the bad things.

Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.


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Re: Re: American Classics
By: Dr. What to The Millionaire on Wed Oct 16 2019 07:25 am

But that's the trap of nostalgia. We tend to remember the good things but downplay the bad things.

I have fond memories of nostalgia.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Vk3jed on Wed Oct 16 2019 07:04 am

I felt like the advent of digital synths in the late 70s and early 80s meant that people could make sounds that people hadn't put to music before. I loved the whole new-wave movement from the early 80s; there seemed a breadth of music I haven't heard since.

I've had the same thought. It seems like a lot of bands got into synths in the 80s, but mostly got out of synths starting in the 90s. And a related technology is MIDI - It seems a lot of people think of MIDI as something for playing small music files on computers for games (when space savings was important), but MIDI was actually designed for the music industry.

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: Dumas Walker to THE MILLIONAIRE on Tue Oct 15 2019 08:12 pm

Yeah. Tell me about it. I wish I could build a time machine. Then I'd go b to the 80's and never return again. :-)

I might not be happy with the way things are now, but I am not sure there
is a decade that I have lived through that I would want to go back to, especially if I was that age again. My memories of most of the 80's are
not so fond. 1980 maybe. 1987 maybe. The rest of it I think not.

I don't think it's a matter of time, but more of where your heart and mind
are during that time period. I guess in some situations there's more oportuni ty or the cultural scene may be different, however I think a lot of it
lies in nostalgia.

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: Moondog to Dumas Walker on Wed Oct 16 2019 12:50 pm

I might not be happy with the way things are now, but I am not sure
there is a decade that I have lived through that I would want to go
back to, especially if I was that age again. My memories of most of
the 80's are not so fond. 1980 maybe. 1987 maybe. The rest of it I
think not.

I don't think it's a matter of time, but more of where your heart and mind are during that time period. I guess in some situations there's more oportuni ty or the cultural scene may be different, however I think a lot of it lies in nostalgia.

That's probably true. I think I had a fairly good childhood and have fond memories of the 80s and early 90s. Sometimes I think I wouldn't mind going back there, but it's probably more of the state of mind and things I was in back then.

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: Dr. What to Dumas Walker on Wed Oct 16 2019 07:29 am

Dumas Walker wrote to THE MILLIONAIRE <=-

Most of the others were not books I really cared for, and I really struggled to finish them (if I finished them!).

Life is too short to read bad books. Since I was always a good reader, I fo that:
1. English teachers have AWFUL taste in books.
2. Many "classics" simply do not translate well for today's society.

The good news is that I discovered many other "classic" books that are reall good - Like Charles Alden Seltzer (Project Gutenberg) who writes really good westerns.

I don't think the classics in this context are supposed to be culturally relev ant. They are more or less a snapshot of the style of writing and the environment they were wrtten in. In the example of John Steinbeck, many of
his stories take place out west, when the depression pushed a lot of people ou t to California, looking for any type of work. Jack London's books painted a picture of Alaska and Northern Canada befroe the gold rushes droves flocks of peopel up there in search of gold.

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Vk3jed on Wed Oct 16 2019 07:04 am

Vk3jed wrote to Nightfox <=-

I have a lot of fond memories of the 80s. Sure, what exists today is the stuff od science fiction dreams of those days, but there's something about the 80s. I still listen to a lot of 80s music. :)

I felt like the advent of digital synths in the late 70s and early 80s meant that people could make sounds that people hadn't put to music before. I loved the whole new-wave movement from the early 80s; there seemed a breadth of music I haven't heard since.

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And to think the sounds they were getting out of fairly inexpensive synths rivaled that of large Moogs and other analog syths that required knowledge of connecting and sequencing series of waveform generators and oscillators by han d. The SID chip in the C64 was very good for experimenting with sounds, and SID's designer went on to work for for Esoniq. The Midi standard also helped automate someof the music making process

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I felt like the advent of digital synths in the late 70s and early 80s meant that people could make sounds that people hadn't put to music before. I loved the whole new-wave movement from the early 80s; there seemed a breadth of music I haven't heard since.

That's true, there was a lot of experimentation around that time in music, and some interesting sounds came out of it.


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Dumas Walker wrote to THE MILLIONAIRE <=-

Life is too short to read bad books. Since I was always a good reader, I found
that:
1. English teachers have AWFUL taste in books.
2. Many "classics" simply do not translate well for today's society.

Sometimes I think the school district may have prevented them from choosing some books and leaving them with some yawners.

The good news is that I discovered many other "classic" books that are really good - Like Charles Alden Seltzer (Project Gutenberg) who writes really good westerns.

I am currently reading Jules Verne's "From the Earth to the Moon." Not an American so I did not mention it or him before. :) He is very detailed,
wich can be tedious at times, but I am enjoying it.

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Well I found 1984 being 300 pages was a lot for what he trying to portray. 200 >would have been sufficient.

Animal Farm was definately more concise than 1984.

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: Nightfox to Moondog on Wed Oct 16 2019 11:40 am

Re: Re: American Classics
By: Moondog to Dumas Walker on Wed Oct 16 2019 12:50 pm

I might not be happy with the way things are now, but I am not sure
there is a decade that I have lived through that I would want to go
back to, especially if I was that age again. My memories of most of
the 80's are not so fond. 1980 maybe. 1987 maybe. The rest of it I
think not.

I don't think it's a matter of time, but more of where your heart and m are during that time period. I guess in some situations there's more oportuni ty or the cultural scene may be different, however I think a l of it lies in nostalgia.

That's probably true. I think I had a fairly good childhood and have fond m

Nightfox

I have felt that way towards physical places, and figured another time would b e about the same.

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: Dumas Walker to THE MILLIONAIRE on Wed Oct 16 2019 07:11 pm

Well I found 1984 being 300 pages was a lot for what he trying to portray. >would have been sufficient.

Animal Farm was definately more concise than 1984.

if i recall correctly 1984 goes on a huge long tangent when explaining everything that's going on.
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Animal Farm was definately more concise than 1984.

if i recall correctly 1984 goes on a huge long tangent when explaining everything that's going on.

I also seem to remember it that way. We were required to read Animal Farm.
Reading it, and the fact that the year 1984 was approaching, got me
interested in reading 1984, too. It was one I volunteered to read. I
believe most of my other classmates chose works that were closer to the
length of Animal Farm. :) Ooops!

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Moondog wrote to Dr. What <=-

I don't think the classics in this context are supposed to be
culturally relevant. They are more or less a snapshot of the style of writing and the environment they were wrtten in.

And if you are a person who likes to study languages and how they evolved, I can see how you might enjoy that.

But I'm talking about a book simply being an enjoyable read. Many "classes" simply are not. And it's not just the evolution of the language because other classics of the time ARE enjoyable reads.

Jack London's books painted a picture of Alaska and
Northern Canada befroe the gold rushes droves flocks of peopel up there
in search of gold.

Since I'm re-reading most of my Jack London right now, his Yukon stories are mostly about pictures of Alaska and the Yukon DURING the gold rush times.


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Dumas Walker wrote to DR. WHAT <=-

Sometimes I think the school district may have prevented them from choosing some books and leaving them with some yawners.

That's possible.

I remember my dad telling me that some (moronic) parent coming to the school board meeting to demand that all the Tarzan books be removed from the school libraries because Tarzan and Jane were living together but were never married.

(It's moronic because in the books, they WERE married before they started living together.)

I am currently reading Jules Verne's "From the Earth to the Moon." Not
an American so I did not mention it or him before. :) He is very detailed, wich can be tedious at times, but I am enjoying it.

I never enjoyed that one. But I still treasure my re-translated 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (the original translation was a hack job).


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Re: Re: American Classics
By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Thu Oct 17 2019 08:17 pm

Re: Re: American Classics
By: Dumas Walker to THE MILLIONAIRE on Wed Oct 16 2019 07:11 pm

Well I found 1984 being 300 pages was a lot for what he trying to portra >would have been sufficient.

Animal Farm was definately more concise than 1984.

if i recall correctly 1984 goes on a huge long tangent when explaining everything that's going on.

It's been awhile sonce I read it. I attribute it to the wrting style. I noticed quite a few writers in the past were very wordy. Stephen King is
very wordy.

Seems like the trend to be wordy began to die of in the 1970's through the 80's. Writers such as Clancy or Coonts are action oriented, however still
put down enough detail and atmisphere to make you feel like you're where they are describing.

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: Moondog to MRO on Fri Oct 18 2019 02:41 pm

It's been awhile sonce I read it. I attribute it to the wrting style. I noticed quite a few writers in the past were very wordy. Stephen King is very wordy.

It seemed like J. R. R. Tolkien was that way with Lord Of The Rings. I never read it, but I've heard it was fairly long with a lot of detail (which was why it was split into 3 movies when they made movies of it). As popular as it apparently is, I never heard of Lord Of The Rings until the first movie came out. I was never really into that genre though.

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: Moondog to MRO on Fri Oct 18 2019 02:41 pm

noticed quite a few writers in the past were very wordy. Stephen King is very wordy.

if he's on cocaine.
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Re: Re: American Classics
By: Moondog to MRO on Fri Oct 18 2019 02:41 pm

if he's on cocaine.
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Re: Re: American Classics
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Fri Oct 18 2019 08:38 pm

He's an evil man they say too.

Stephen King? Who says he's evil?

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Fri Oct 18 2019 08:38 pm

Stephen King? Who says he's evil?

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Stephen King told Rolling Stone magazine 5 years ago that he believes in evil.

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The Millionaire wrote to Nightfox <=-

Stephen King? Who says he's evil?

Stephen King told Rolling Stone magazine 5 years ago that he
believes in evil.

And that makes *HIM* evil?



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Moondog wrote to MRO <=-

Seems like the trend to be wordy began to die of in the 1970's through
the 80's. Writers such as Clancy or Coonts are action oriented,
however still put down enough detail and atmisphere to make you feel
like you're where they are describing.

Clancy could get mired in details. In "The Hunt for Red October" He'd go
down rabbit holes describing Ramius' wife's death and the steps leading up
to a mechanical defect on the reactor.

I want to start reading the Bourne books - my dad commuted on the train when
I was growing up, and read thriller/mystery paperbacks non-stop. I remember him reading the whole Bourne series along with similarly-named political thriller/action/spy books.


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It seemed like J. R. R. Tolkien was that way with Lord Of The Rings.

He had to describe a new world, new places, new languages and a new history
to us all. The appendix had a timeline covering thousands of years!




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Re: American Classics
By: Wayoul to All on Fri Oct 11 2019 09:08:14

I'm sitting in an American Literature of the 19th Century course at the mome and it got me thinking - when you think of something that's an "American Classic", what's something that immediately springs to mind?

Hi! How about some eclectic titles?

The Delight Makers by Adolph Francis Alphonse Bandelier
The Last American by John Ames Mitchell
Old Indian Days by Charles Eastman
Peace Pilgrim (biography)
The Story of My Boyhood and Youth by John Muir

and for fantasy:

The Wizard of Oz by L. Frank Baum

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Fri Oct 18 2019 08:38 pm

Re: Re: American Classics
By: Moondog to MRO on Fri Oct 18 2019 02:41 pm

if he's on cocaine.
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like most people who use cocaine, he's boring when he's not on cocaine.
he spends all this time talking about trump.
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Re: Re: American Classics
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Sat Oct 19 2019 04:43 am

Stephen King told Rolling Stone magazine 5 years ago that he believes in evil.

What does "believes in evil" mean? Many Christians believe in good and evil, in the sense that it's good to stay away from evil. So without context, I'd think that just the statement "believes in evil" doesn't necessarily mean anything bad.

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Sat Oct 19 2019 08:32 am

And that makes *HIM* evil?

Well look at his movies. They always involve evil in some way.

Depicting evil doesn't mean he endorses evil. Some people just enjoy scary movies, but it doesn't mean they are evil.

Sometimes depicting evil can even be a way to show why you're against evil.

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Sat Oct 19 2019 08:32 am

Well look at his movies. They always involve evil in some way.

Have you seen any of the Left Behind movies (or read the books)? I've seen a few of the movies - Those involve evil but that doesn't make them evil; they're actually pro-Christian movies.

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Sat Oct 19 2019 12:35 pm

Re: Re: American Classics
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Sat Oct 19 2019 08:32 am

And that makes *HIM* evil?

Well look at his movies. They always involve evil in some way.

Depicting evil doesn't mean he endorses evil. Some people just enjoy scary movies, but it doesn't mean they are evil.

Sometimes depicting evil can even be a way to show why you're against evil.

he does have a sick sexual side. one example is the underage sex orgy for IT. also i remember just some random thing in a book about a guy jacking off in a lady's underwear. im' not sure if that was tommyknockers
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Re: Re: American Classics
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Sat Oct 19 2019 04:43 am

Re: Re: American Classics
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Fri Oct 18 2019 08:38 pm

Stephen King? Who says he's evil?

Nightfox

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: The Millionaire to Gamgee on Sat Oct 19 2019 08:32 am

And that makes *HIM* evil?

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Well look at his movies. They always involve evil in some way.

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His works are mostly battles of good vs evil. Not much different from other writers.

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Nightfox wrote to Moondog <=-

It seemed like J. R. R. Tolkien was that way with Lord Of The Rings. I never read it, but I've heard it was fairly long with a lot of detail (which was why it was split into 3 movies when they made movies of it).
As popular as it apparently is, I never heard of Lord Of The Rings
until the first movie came out. I was never really into that genre though.

Tolkien was detailed, but it gave his stories depth and he still had plenty of action. But some places the story did plod along (just like the characters plodded along).

The reason that the Lord of the Rings was split across 3 movies is that it's 6 books long (each paper book is 2 books each). Even though it was split across 3 movies, they left out ALOT of stuff.


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Nightfox wrote to The Millionaire <=-

Have you seen any of the Left Behind movies (or read the books)? I've seen a few of the movies - Those involve evil but that doesn't make
them evil; they're actually pro-Christian movies.

A couple of years ago, I read the LB series. Amazed at the suspension of
logic that people wouldn't have read the book of revelations after the
rapture and knew the plot of the next nine books. :)


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Re: Re: American Classics
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Sat Oct 19 2019 12:35 pm

he does have a sick sexual side. one example is the underage sex orgy for IT. also i remember just some random thing in a book about a guy jacking off in a lady's underwear. im' not sure if that was tommyknockers
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Also had aliases like Richard Bachman. Why change his name for when everyone knows it’s him anyways.

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: The Millionaire to MRO on Mon Oct 21 2019 09:34 am

Also had aliases like Richard Bachman. Why change his name for when everyone knows it's him anyways.

to try different things and get a different demographic.
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MRO wrote to The Millionaire <=-

Also had aliases like Richard Bachman. Why change his name for when everyone knows it's him anyways.

Yeah, Richard Bachman was the nom de plume he used when writing non-horror, because publishers always wanted the next Steven King Horror Best Seller.

He wrote "Different Seasons" as RB, which had, if memory serves, "Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption" and "The Body" (which became "Stand
By Me").

It may have had Apt Pupil on it, a creepy story but not horror per se.




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Yeah, Richard Bachman was the nom de plume he used when writing non-horror, because publishers always wanted the next Steven King Horror Best Seller.

He wrote "Different Seasons" as RB, which had, if memory serves, "Rita Hayworth and the Shawshank Redemption" and "The Body" (which became "Stand By Me").

It may have had Apt Pupil on it, a creepy story but not horror per se.

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Also The Running Man was written under the alias Richard Bachman as well.

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Tue Oct 22 2019 06:07 am

MRO wrote to The Millionaire <=-

Also had aliases like Richard Bachman. Why change his name for when every knows it's him anyways.

Yeah, Richard Bachman was the nom de plume he used when writing non-horror,

you're replying to me but i didnt write that.
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Re: Re: American Classics
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Tue Oct 15 2019 01:47 pm

I think the 80s had a lot of great movies and music. But nostalgia may be adding to the appeal these days. Sometimes I think it's easy to look back and feel like something was great, when we didn't always feel that way about it at the time. It's like you don't know what you have until it's gone.

What do you mean, "gone?" Do you realize how much of that stuff has been preserved in recordings and TV reruns? It's pretty much the secret of eternal life. Thus we have built up the most splendid Nostalgia Industry on Earth.

That being said, I also believe nostalgia can sometimes cloud people's judgment. The 80s had a lot of really crappy movies and music too. You've got to take the good with the bad.

I know when I was a teenager and I was mad at the world, I thought everything sucked. But now I look back and say, "Hey, that wasn't so bad."

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What do you mean, "gone?" Do you realize how much of that stuff has been preserved in recordings and TV reruns? It's pretty much the secret of eternal life. Thus we have built up the most splendid Nostalgia Industry on Earth.

MeTV, Antenna TV, and Turner Classic Movies are three of my favorite
channels. TV Land was, too, until they sort of branched out of the old
reruns business. :)

That being said, I also believe nostalgia can sometimes cloud people's judgment. The 80s had a lot of really crappy movies and music too. You've got to take the good with the bad.

It sure did. Last night I saw "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls." I thought
to myself, if it was not for an extended appearance by Strawberry
Alarm Clock, that would be the worst movie I have ever seen (it was from
1970). Then I remembered there were a bunch of movies I saw in the 1980's
(and early '90's) that I don't even remember the names of that I saw just because we were bored & they were showing at the $1 movies. BtVotD moved
much farther from worst seen... now it is the 2nd-to-worst of movies whose names I can remember. :)

I know when I was a teenager and I was mad at the world, I thought everything sucked. But now I look back and say, "Hey, that wasn't so bad."

I turned 10 in 1980. So the 1980's were some of my more ackward years.
There are individual events, songs, etc., that I look back to as the bright spots, but it was a pretty crap decade as far as I am concerned.


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Re: Re: American Classics
By: Toadster to Nightfox on Sat Nov 23 2019 04:26 pm

adding to the appeal these days. Sometimes I think it's easy to look ba and feel like something was great, when we didn't always feel that way about it at the time. It's like you don't know what you have until it's gone.

What do you mean, "gone?" Do you realize how much of that stuff has been preserved in recordings and TV reruns? It's pretty much the secret of eterna life. Thus we have built up the most splendid Nostalgia Industry on Earth.

there is NO such thing truly preserving something that we went through and remember.

you were either there, or you weren't.

saving tshirts and tvshows or whatever isnt the same as being there.
it's not splendid; it's saving a shadow of its former self.
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Re: Re: American Classics
By: Toadster to Nightfox on Sat Nov 23 2019 04:26 pm

Re: Re: American Classics
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Tue Oct 15 2019 01:47 pm

I think the 80s had a lot of great movies and music. But nostalgia may adding to the appeal these days. Sometimes I think it's easy to look ba and feel like something was great, when we didn't always feel that way about it at the time. It's like you don't know what you have until it's gone.

What do you mean, "gone?" Do you realize how much of that stuff has been preserved in recordings and TV reruns? It's pretty much the secret of eterna life. Thus we have built up the most splendid Nostalgia Industry on Earth.

That being said, I also believe nostalgia can sometimes cloud people's judgment. The 80s had a lot of really crappy movies and music too. You've go to take the good with the bad.

I know when I was a teenager and I was mad at the world, I thought everythin sucked. But now I look back and say, "Hey, that wasn't so bad."

I noticed there's some music I didn't like when I was young I like more, and there's TV shows I thought I liked, but it may have been some other aspect of the moment, such as the family all sitting down together to watch a TV show.

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: Toadster to Nightfox on Sat Nov 23 2019 04:26 pm

I think the 80s had a lot of great movies and music. But nostalgia
may be adding to the appeal these days. Sometimes I think it's easy
to look back and feel like something was great, when we didn't
always feel that way about it at the time. It's like you don't know
what you have until it's gone.

What do you mean, "gone?" Do you realize how much of that stuff has been preserved in recordings and TV reruns? It's pretty much the secret of eternal life. Thus we have built up the most splendid Nostalgia Industry on Earth.

I was referring to the 80s time period being gone, as in we aren't living in that era anymore. And sometimes we don't know what we have until it's gone, meaning at the time we felt like it was normal, but now, we look back on that stuff with nostalgia and fond memories.

That being said, I also believe nostalgia can sometimes cloud people's judgment. The 80s had a lot of really crappy movies and music too. You've got to take the good with the bad.

Sometimes, there is music and movies I didn't like at the time, but now I might like it for how bad/campy it was.

And there's some I liked and perhaps like even more now for some of its campyness. For instance, the song "Electric Blue" by Ice House - I always thought it's a good song, but now, if you watch the video, one of the first things you might notice is the singer's epic mullet. :P

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: MRO to Toadster on Sat Nov 23 2019 12:33 pm

Re: Re: American Classics
By: Toadster to Nightfox on Sat Nov 23 2019 04:26 pm

adding to the appeal these days. Sometimes I think it's easy to look and feel like something was great, when we didn't always feel that w about it at the time. It's like you don't know what you have until i gone.

What do you mean, "gone?" Do you realize how much of that stuff has been preserved in recordings and TV reruns? It's pretty much the secret of ete life. Thus we have built up the most splendid Nostalgia Industry on Earth

there is NO such thing truly preserving something that we went through and remember.

you were either there, or you weren't.

saving tshirts and tvshows or whatever isnt the same as being there.
it's not splendid; it's saving a shadow of its former self.

You can't go back. I was reminded of the Twilight Zone episode where the guy returns to his childhood hometown, and it's the same as it was when he was a pre-teen.

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Re: Re: American Classics
By: Nightfox to Toadster on Sat Nov 23 2019 01:03 pm

Re: Re: American Classics
By: Toadster to Nightfox on Sat Nov 23 2019 04:26 pm

I think the 80s had a lot of great movies and music. But nostalgia
may be adding to the appeal these days. Sometimes I think it's easy
to look back and feel like something was great, when we didn't
always feel that way about it at the time. It's like you don't know
what you have until it's gone.

What do you mean, "gone?" Do you realize how much of that stuff has bee preserved in recordings and TV reruns? It's pretty much the secret of eternal life. Thus we have built up the most splendid Nostalgia Industr on Earth.

I was referring to the 80s time period being gone, as in we aren't living in d fond memories.

That being said, I also believe nostalgia can sometimes cloud people's judgment. The 80s had a lot of really crappy movies and music too. You' got to take the good with the bad.

Sometimes, there is music and movies I didn't like at the time, but now I mi

And there's some I liked and perhaps like even more now for some of its camp inger's epic mullet. :P

Nightfox

I would go so far as to say alot of the 70s was epic...
I look at it like this, in the 90's and 2000's you have today's modern movie tough guy.

Back then you had Eastwood and Bronson.

Case Closed.

It is things like that which make the 70s and 80s probably the best 2 decades in the past 250 years.


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Re: Re: American Classics
By: Zombie Mambo to Nightfox on Mon Nov 25 2019 02:09 pm

Re: Re: American Classics
By: Nightfox to Toadster on Sat Nov 23 2019 01:03 pm

Re: Re: American Classics
By: Toadster to Nightfox on Sat Nov 23 2019 04:26 pm

I think the 80s had a lot of great movies and music. But nostalgia
may be adding to the appeal these days. Sometimes I think it's easy
to look back and feel like something was great, when we didn't
always feel that way about it at the time. It's like you don't know
what you have until it's gone.

What do you mean, "gone?" Do you realize how much of that stuff has preserved in recordings and TV reruns? It's pretty much the secret o eternal life. Thus we have built up the most splendid Nostalgia Indu on Earth.

I was referring to the 80s time period being gone, as in we aren't living d fond memories.

That being said, I also believe nostalgia can sometimes cloud people judgment. The 80s had a lot of really crappy movies and music too. Y got to take the good with the bad.

Sometimes, there is music and movies I didn't like at the time, but now I

And there's some I liked and perhaps like even more now for some of its c inger's epic mullet. :P

Nightfox

I would go so far as to say alot of the 70s was epic...
I look at it like this, in the 90's and 2000's you have today's modern movie tough guy.

Back then you had Eastwood and Bronson.

Case Closed.

It is things like that which make the 70s and 80s probably the best 2 decade in the past 250 years.

Thanks,
Zombie Mambo

Stallone ushered in the ridiculously hard to kill action hero

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