• Corona-WTF??

    From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to All on Sat Sep 12 08:14:41 2020

    Is anyone else getting sick of hearing about this Corona-shit?? WTF? All we can do is wear a mask. If you don't..fine. I won't go near you, that's all. I'll wear one cause I don't want my mom to get it. I don't give a shit how many cases there are or how many deaths it's caused. People get sick and die. That's life. Now the dems are making it a politcal thing. Oh..yay for the Dems. Their going to save the day. I just wish everyone would just shut the fuck up about it. All anyone can do is wear a mask. That's it. It's a choice. You can't make me wear a mask. You can't make me get injected with a vaccine if there ever is one. So just shutup about it!

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Sat Sep 12 15:06:54 2020
    Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: HusTler to All on Sat Sep 12 2020 08:14 am


    Is anyone else getting sick of hearing about this Corona-shit?? WTF? All we can do is wear a mask. If you don't..fine. I won't go near you, that's all. I'll wear one cause I don't want my mom to get it. I don't give a shit how many cases there are or how many deaths it's caused. People get


    yeah i'm sick of it.

    the media is making tons of money off of it too. that's why they pump the corona virus stories 10x a day
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  • From Baguette@VERT/CAVEBBS to HusTler on Sat Sep 12 12:36:00 2020
    Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: HusTler to All on Sat Sep 12 2020 08:14 am


    Is anyone else getting sick of hearing about this Corona-shit?? WTF? All we w many deaths it's caused. People get sick and die. That's life. Now the dem That's it. It's a choice. You can't make me wear a mask. You can't make me g

    HusTler
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    The only people I've seen making it a "political thing" so far has been the right, honestly. The fact that the US government has handled the situation appalingly has nothing to do with my political opinion.

    Also, "people die all the time, so what" is giving me some Hot Topic vibes there, my man.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Baguette on Sat Sep 12 17:49:50 2020
    Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Baguette to HusTler on Sat Sep 12 2020 12:36 pm

    The only people I've seen making it a "political thing" so far has been the right, honestly. The fact that the US government has handled the


    i see liberals on fb talk about corona virus and how it's trump's fault and all kinds of bullshit.


    Also, "people die all the time, so what" is giving me some Hot Topic vibes there, my man.


    150k people die each day of all the things we ignore and dont talk about. corona virus is nothing.

    the way we reacted to it was horrible for people or the economy.
    sick and at risk people should have stayed home.
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  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Sat Sep 12 21:12:00 2020
    Hello Dennisk!

    ** On Wednesday 17.06.20 - 13:52, dennisk wrote to MRO:

    By the way, the show here in Melbourne the ages of those
    who die, and its almost always 70+ and up, mostly 80's,
    90's and sometimes 100's. Yet when I argue that for those
    who are younger, this virus is not the existential risk
    people make, I get arguments. Yet the VERY FIGURES they
    put out indicate this.

    What they are occassionaly interjecting into the news HERE in
    Canada is that even those who sail through the infection, they
    say that some of the people have permanent lung damage that
    would certainly affect them in later years. And if that isn't
    enough to scare everyone, they say that other organs can be
    affected in ways that are yet unknown.


    Concentrate quarantine on the vulnerable, the old, and on
    those who have it, and ease up on everyone else. Put your
    resources where it matters. Instead, the government is
    focused on compliance rather than risk management.

    I have had at about a dozen people walk into my shop without a
    mask. These people claim that they only realize they don't
    have it on because they "just stepped out of the car" or
    something.


    Truly dispiriting, and I'm sick of it. Yet we will be with
    this for another year at least.

    If the virus won't make us sick, the constant news about it,
    will.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Baguette on Sat Sep 12 20:07:00 2020
    Baguette wrote to HusTler <=-

    Is anyone else getting sick of hearing about this Corona-shit?? WTF? All we w many deaths it's caused. People get sick and die. That's life. Now the dem That's it. It's a choice. You can't make me wear a mask. You can't make me g

    The only people I've seen making it a "political thing" so far
    has been the right, honestly.

    Seriously? Try this experiment: Turn on CNN (or MSNBC), at any
    hour of the day or night, and watch it for 10 minutes. See if the "journalist" talks about *ANYTHING* other than Corona and how it's
    Bad Man Orange's fault.

    Let us know what you find out.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Sat Sep 12 21:10:14 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Ogg to All on Sat Sep 12 2020 09:12 pm

    What they are occassionaly interjecting into the news HERE in
    Canada is that even those who sail through the infection, they
    say that some of the people have permanent lung damage that
    would certainly affect them in later years. And if that isn't
    enough to scare everyone, they say that other organs can be
    affected in ways that are yet unknown.



    last week on the news i read that they think that may no longer be true.

    so you dont know what to fucking think.
    that's the media for you.
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  • From Underminer@VERT/UNDRMINE to MRO on Sun Sep 13 03:28:27 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: MRO to Ogg on Sat Sep 12 2020 09:10 pm

    What they are occassionaly interjecting into the news HERE in
    Canada is that even those who sail through the infection, they
    say that some of the people have permanent lung damage that
    would certainly affect them in later years. And if that isn't
    enough to scare everyone, they say that other organs can be
    affected in ways that are yet unknown.

    last week on the news i read that they think that may no longer be true. so you dont know what to fucking think.
    that's the media for you.

    The most recent actual STUDIES I've seen (I long ago concluded most media are either biased or unwilling to put in the time to unpack nuance or understand anything involving science or medicine, and you're best off trying to find as close to original sources as possible) are somewhere in between. Results in Italy seem to indicate that there's lasting lung and heart damage in nearly all patients, but that pulmonary rehabilitation seems to be able to help mitigate the damage and improve outlook.

    TL;DR: The effects are more severe than previously thought, the ability to recover is better than previously thought but requires intervention, and the media is swinging things both ways depending on the network and agenda.
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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to HusTler on Sun Sep 13 10:08:00 2020
    HusTler wrote to All <=-

    Is anyone else getting sick of hearing about this Corona-shit?? WTF?

    I was sick of it back in April.

    All we can do is wear a mask. If you don't..fine.

    The masks are just a fear tactic by the Left. Fear is a good way to control people. The mask mandates are 100% political and have no bearing on "safety".

    I'll wear one cause I don't want my mom to get it.

    Which is about the only case where a mask might do good.

    I don't give a shit how many cases there are

    Cases are not relevant. 98% of the people who get it are asymptomatic. And they've already proven that asymptomatic people
    don't spread it. And 90% of the cases are actually false positives.

    The only numbers that are meaningful are 1) the number hospitalized because (not with) COVID and 2) the number of people who died from (not with) COVID. And now the CDC says that only 6% of the deaths are from COVID.

    People get sick and die. That's life. Now the dems are making it a politcal thing. Oh..yay for the Dems. Their going to save the day.

    The Dems never let a good tragedy go unexploited.

    "Just give up more of your freedom and rights and we'll make you safe." Ya, never works out.

    just wish everyone would just shut the fuck up about it. All anyone can
    do is wear a mask. That's it. It's a choice. You can't make me wear a mask. You can't make me get injected with a vaccine if there ever is
    one. So just shutup about it!

    The good news is that shortly after Nov. 4 COVID will mysteriously be solved and the Leftie Media will be harping about the latest hoax.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Baguette on Sun Sep 13 10:16:00 2020
    Baguette wrote to HusTler <=-

    The only people I've seen making it a "political thing" so far has been the right, honestly. The fact that the US government has handled the situation appalingly has nothing to do with my political opinion.

    The Federal Gov't did handle it by doing the things it's allowed to do. It's up to the local gov'ts to handle things in their areas.

    You see, we have this thing called a "Constitution" which grants the gov't authority over us. The various gov'ts can only do
    what their rules (i.e. their Constitutions) say that they can do and doing more than that is in violation of the Constitution.

    I know that Lefties like you were never educated in how this process works, but you might want to look it up sometime.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Gamgee on Sun Sep 13 10:17:00 2020
    Gamgee wrote to Baguette <=-

    Seriously? Try this experiment: Turn on CNN (or MSNBC), at any
    hour of the day or night, and watch it for 10 minutes. See if the "journalist" talks about *ANYTHING* other than Corona and how it's
    Bad Man Orange's fault.

    I tried a drinking game like that.

    I don't remember that weekend.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BAGUETTE on Sun Sep 13 09:57:00 2020
    Also, "people die all the time, so what" is giving me some Hot Topic vibes there, my man.

    Are you suggesting that Hustler is an Emo? :)


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sun Sep 13 09:59:00 2020
    The only people I've seen making it a "political thing" so far has been the right, honestly. The fact that the US government has handled the

    i see liberals on fb talk about corona virus and how it's trump's fault and all
    kinds of bullshit.

    The only people I know personally who make it a political thing would be
    very offended being called members of "the right." Like maybe even
    "fighting words" or "safe space" offended.


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  • From Baguette@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Sun Sep 13 16:38:00 2020
    Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: MRO to Baguette on Sat Sep 12 2020 05:49 pm

    Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Baguette to HusTler on Sat Sep 12 2020 12:36 pm

    The only people I've seen making it a "political thing" so far has been the right, honestly. The fact that the US government has handled the


    i see liberals on fb talk about corona virus and how it's trump's fault and


    Also, "people die all the time, so what" is giving me some Hot Topic vi there, my man.


    150k people die each day of all the things we ignore and dont talk about. corona virus is nothing.

    the way we reacted to it was horrible for people or the economy.
    sick and at risk people should have stayed home.

    Right, Facebook, that pillar of human intelligence. You can find anyone
    blaming anyone for anything on there if you look hard enough.

    And that's still a pretty edgy answer. Should we stop policing murders,
    because people die anyway?

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  • From Baguette@VERT/CAVEBBS to Gamgee on Sun Sep 13 16:39:00 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Gamgee to Baguette on Sat Sep 12 2020 08:07 pm

    Baguette wrote to HusTler <=-

    Is anyone else getting sick of hearing about this Corona-shit?? WTF? All w many deaths it's caused. People get sick and die. That's life. Now the That's it. It's a choice. You can't make me wear a mask. You can't make m

    The only people I've seen making it a "political thing" so far
    has been the right, honestly.

    Seriously? Try this experiment: Turn on CNN (or MSNBC), at any
    hour of the day or night, and watch it for 10 minutes. See if the "journalist" talks about *ANYTHING* other than Corona and how it's
    Bad Man Orange's fault.

    Let us know what you find out.



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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to MRO on Mon Sep 14 08:32:00 2020
    MRO wrote to Ogg <=-

    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Ogg to All on Sat Sep 12 2020 09:12 pm

    What they are occassionaly interjecting into the news HERE in
    Canada is that even those who sail through the infection, they
    say that some of the people have permanent lung damage that
    would certainly affect them in later years. And if that isn't
    enough to scare everyone, they say that other organs can be
    affected in ways that are yet unknown.

    last week on the news i read that they think that may no longer be
    true.

    so you dont know what to fucking think.
    that's the media for you.

    It seems to affect everyone differently, and your own personal health is a big factor. What the news also mention is that many people are walking around with it, many may not be aware. But they always mention this in the context of people spreading it, and the need for lockdown. If people aren't aware they have it, then obviously the symptoms don't always strike hard and for many, its a non-issue.

    I'm not worried about catching it, I think I would rather have the virus for a couple of weeks, get immune and get on with my life, than continue with this lockdown.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Underminer on Sun Sep 13 20:26:21 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Underminer to MRO on Sun Sep 13 2020 03:28 am

    heart damage in nearly all patients, but that pulmonary rehabilitation seems to be able to help mitigate the damage and improve outlook.

    TL;DR: The effects are more severe than previously thought, the ability to recover is better than previously thought but requires intervention, and the media is swinging things both ways depending on the network and agenda.


    i'm not going to trust anything until a year or so has passed.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sun Sep 13 20:28:45 2020
    Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sun Sep 13 2020 09:59 am


    The only people I know personally who make it a political thing would be very offended being called members of "the right." Like maybe even "fighting words" or "safe space" offended.


    personally i dont know anybody who makes it a political thing. there are some people that think that that after the usa election covid will go away or diminish and that might be true.

    media is making a lot of money talking about covid and 'new cases'
    they never talk about people recovering.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Baguette on Sun Sep 13 20:30:11 2020
    Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Baguette to MRO on Sun Sep 13 2020 04:38 pm


    the way we reacted to it was horrible for people or the economy.
    sick and at risk people should have stayed home.

    Right, Facebook, that pillar of human intelligence. You can find anyone blaming anyone for anything on there if you look hard enough.

    are you talking about the entire internet in general or facebook?
    people's actions on facebook is a good representation of how people are thinking.

    And that's still a pretty edgy answer. Should we stop policing murders, because people die anyway?

    sure, why not
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dennisk on Sun Sep 13 20:32:29 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Dennisk to MRO on Mon Sep 14 2020 08:32 am


    It seems to affect everyone differently, and your own personal health is a big factor. What the news also mention is that many people are walking around with it, many may not be aware. But they always mention this in the context of people spreading it, and the need for lockdown. If people aren't aware they have it, then obviously the symptoms don't always strike hard and for many, its a non-issue.

    I'm not worried about catching it, I think I would rather have the virus for a couple of weeks, get immune and get on with my life, than continue with this lockdown.


    i think there's something strange about covid where it affects people of color much worse. i have people at work who are hispanics that are probably a native american and mexican mix that got it and got real sick. they were young and strong so they recovered. i also worked with a black man who was strong and in great shape and health and it kicked his ass and put him in a hospital. same with his wife.

    i'm some type of superhuman. i rarely get sick other than eating bad food.
    i havent had the flu since 18 and i only get the really really bad colds.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Baguette on Sun Sep 13 20:58:00 2020
    Baguette wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Is anyone else getting sick of hearing about this Corona-shit?? WTF? All w many deaths it's caused. People get sick and die. That's life. Now the That's it. It's a choice. You can't make me wear a mask. You can't make m

    The only people I've seen making it a "political thing" so far
    has been the right, honestly.

    Seriously? Try this experiment: Turn on CNN (or MSNBC), at any
    hour of the day or night, and watch it for 10 minutes. See if the "journalist" talks about *ANYTHING* other than Corona and how it's
    Bad Man Orange's fault.

    Let us know what you find out.

    Do the same with Fox, and see how long it takes for Fucker
    Carlson to blow the President a little harder.

    Yeah, you may be right. I rarely watch Fox News.

    So, you admit then, that the Left makes it (Corona) a "political
    thing" as well?

    I mean, to deny it just makes you look.................. foolish.



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  • From Fang-Castro@VERT/FTPBBS to all on Sun Sep 13 23:38:20 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Gamgee to Baguette on Sun Sep 13 2020 08:58 pm

    ... A Smith & Wesson *ALWAYS* beats 4 Aces.

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Fang-Castro on Mon Sep 14 07:01:20 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Fang-Castro to all on Sun Sep 13 2020 23:38:20


    Gamgee>> ... A Smith & Wesson *ALWAYS* beats 4 Aces.

    Unless you're playing poker.

    *especially* when you are playing poker...


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  • From paulie420@VERT/BEERS20 to MRO on Mon Sep 14 07:42:00 2020
    i think there's something strange about covid where it affects people of color m uch worse. i have people at work who are hispanics that are probably a native a merican and mexican mix that got it and got real
    sick. they were young and stron g so they recov

    I don't think its persay the color of your skin that makes covid affect a population worse, or less - but rather the health issues that each person
    has.

    I think across the nation, black communities have way more diabetes, heart issues and other pre-existing conditions that Covid affects worse.

    So I guess our points are tit for tat, but... I don't think Covid affects
    BLACK people worse... it affects pre-existing conditions worse.



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    ... A Smith & Wesson *ALWAYS* beats 4 Aces.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Dr. What on Mon Sep 14 09:40:09 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Dr. What to HusTler on Sun Sep 13 2020 10:08 am

    The good news is that shortly after Nov. 4 COVID will mysteriously be solved and the Leftie Media will be harping about the latest hoax.


    The leftie media is claiming Trump can't win. Biden is too far ahead according to "the polls". Didn't they say the same thing in 2016?

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to MRO on Mon Sep 14 18:30:13 2020
    Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sun Sep 13 2020 08:28 pm

    personally i dont know anybody who makes it a political thing. there are some people that think that that after the usa election covid will go away or diminish and that might be true.

    I don't think that'll happen. Perhaps the media will stop making such a big deal about it but it's a worldwide phenomenom and it's not going anywhere anytime soon. All I hear about now is local lockdowns in different countries and different kinds of restrictions, depending on where you're from.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BAGUETTE on Mon Sep 14 14:46:00 2020
    Right, Facebook, that pillar of human intelligence. You can find anyone blaming anyone for anything on there if you look hard enough.

    FB, and other forms of modern social media, will be the downfall of
    humanity.

    And that's still a pretty edgy answer. Should we stop policing murders, because people die anyway?

    Policing, no. But if it happens across the country I probably don't need
    to hear about it every 5 minutes here, and I seriously doubt that people rioting about it will do a damn bit of good getting the case solved.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Mon Sep 14 16:16:00 2020
    i think there's something strange about covid where it affects people of color >uch worse. i have people at work who are hispanics that are probably a native >merican and mexican mix that got it and got real sick. they were young and stro
    g so they recovered. i also worked with a black man who was strong and in grea
    shape and health and it kicked his ass and put him in a hospital. same with hi
    wife.

    I have wondered if it has more to do with health and lifestyle (and access to/wearing masks) than it does with the actual ethnic background. In the largest city in my state, we've been lead to believe that it is affecting persons of color in poor neighborhoods more than anyone else. When they
    show footage of these areas on the news, not many seem to be wearing masks.


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  • From Gate Keeper@VERT/THEGATEB to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 15 08:26:53 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Sep 14 2020 04:16 pm

    i think there's something strange about covid where it affects people of co >uch worse. i have people at work who are hispanics that are probably a nat >merican and mexican mix that got it and got real sick. they were young and stro
    g so they recovered. i also worked with a black man who was strong and in grea
    shape and health and it kicked his ass and put him in a hospital. same wit hi
    wife.

    I have wondered if it has more to do with health and lifestyle (and access to/wearing masks) than it does with the actual ethnic background. In the largest city in my state, we've been lead to believe that it is affecting persons of color in poor neighborhoods more than anyone else. When they show footage of these areas on the news, not many seem to be wearing masks.


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    Both my wife and I had it back in late March along with 4 co-workers. We all recovered but let me tell you, it is no joke. It will kick your ass like no other illness. Think of the common flu, now times that by 10.

    Also personally knew 4 people that got it and passed away from it, all were white, good health, under 50 years old. I do believe that wearing a mask when in public helps, but remember, the mask isn't keeping you from getting it, it's helping prevent you from giving it to others if you happen to have it and are asymtomatic.

    And I do believe that we have't seen the worst of it yet, wait till fall and winter hit. I've got a bad feeling.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to HusTler on Tue Sep 15 11:32:00 2020
    HusTler wrote to Dr. What <=-

    The leftie media is claiming Trump can't win. Biden is too far ahead according to "the polls". Didn't they say the same thing in 2016?

    Yup. But they live in a bubble of unreality and can't (or should I say "are unwilling to") see what's outside of that bubble.


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  • From Hakuchi@VERT to HusTler on Tue Sep 15 19:18:00 2020
    HusTler wrote to All <=-


    Is anyone else getting sick of hearing about this Corona-shit?? WTF?

    Yes. Mostly because it's rather painful to see how illogical most of the
    people are.

    All we can do is wear a mask. If you don't..fine. I won't go near you,

    In fact we sure don't need to wear mask. Firstly they don't work ...

    https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/masks-dont-work-covid-a-review-of-science-relevant-to-covide-19-social-policy

    And secondly there is no need for them and they are bad for your health. These
    things have been known for long long time, but still most people wont listen.


    that's all. I'll wear one cause I don't want my mom to get it. I don't give a shit how many cases there are or how many deaths it's caused.

    I think your mom would prefer you to me a man and not wear one so she could
    see your pretty face and enjoy your smile.

    People get sick and die. That's life.

    As long it's not you precious mother, right?


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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Hakuchi on Tue Sep 15 16:26:20 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Hakuchi to HusTler on Tue Sep 15 2020 07:18 pm

    People get sick and die. That's life.

    As long it's not you precious mother, right?

    As long as I don't make her sick. I'd rather be safe then sorry. But I suppose there are a lot of people like you out there killing their Moms.

    HusTler
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Gate Keeper on Tue Sep 15 16:31:22 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Gate Keeper to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 15 2020 08:26 am

    Also personally knew 4 people that got it and passed away from it, all were white, good health, under 50 years old. I do believe that wearing a mask when in public helps, but remember, the mask isn't keeping you from getting it, it's helping prevent you from giving it to others if you happen to have it and are asymtomatic.

    they could have had medical problems that you didnt know about. very very few actually died of the corona virus only and not had any pre existing conditions.

    were white, good health, under 50 years old. I do believe that wearing a mask when in public helps, but remember, the mask isn't keeping you from getting it, it's helping prevent you from giving it to others if you happen to have it and are asymtomatic.


    i dont even think the mask does that. there's not proof of it really helping. the numbers keep going up according to the news. i dont see how a rag on your face is going to stop a microscopic virus. also you could touch something and then touch your face, eyes, nose, mouth and infect yourself.

    the masks are there to give people the feeling that they have some control.
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  • From Underminer@VERT/UNDRMINE to Hakuchi on Tue Sep 15 20:39:15 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Hakuchi to HusTler on Tue Sep 15 2020 07:18 pm

    In fact we sure don't need to wear mask. Firstly they don't work ... https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/masks-dont-work-covid-a-review-of-scie

    Oh god, this nonsense AGAIN? Seriously. Fucking. Stop. Yes, masks do little or nothing to prevent the inhalation of airborne virus particles. That's not what we're trying to accomplish with them, and precisely why we need everyone on board. Do you think this droplets just magically appear in the air? Or do you think that maybe someone has to breath or cough or sneeze them out? If the latter, do you think that maybe, just maybe, putting something in front of your god damn mouth might reduce either the number of droplets exiting that can disperse viral particles, or reduce the velocity of their exit and hence the contagious distance? Maybe?

    I don't wear a mask to protect myself; I wear a mask to protect YOUR goddamn dumb ass. Please do ME the courtesy of valuing my safety over a tiny bit of discomfort on your end.

    Fuck sakes.
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  • From Underminer@VERT/UNDRMINE to MRO on Tue Sep 15 20:40:23 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: MRO to Gate Keeper on Tue Sep 15 2020 04:31 pm

    i dont even think the mask does that. there's not proof of it really helping. the numbers keep going up according to the news. i dont see how a

    Really? Compare transmission numbers in countries where masks have been more readily adopted and you'll see an extremely clear correlation.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Gate Keeper on Tue Sep 15 18:41:00 2020
    Gate Keeper wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    And I do believe that we have't seen the worst of it yet, wait till
    fall and winter hit. I've got a bad feeling.

    Me also. :(


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  • From Gate Keeper@VERT/THEGATEB to MRO on Wed Sep 16 09:00:24 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: MRO to Gate Keeper on Tue Sep 15 2020 04:31 pm

    the masks are there to give people the feeling that they have some control.

    I'll have to agree with that one. But like I said, I've had it and it is like nothing you have experienced before. I'm thankful I don't have any medical conditions.

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  • From Gate Keeper@VERT/THEGATEB to Underminer on Wed Sep 16 09:03:56 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Underminer to MRO on Tue Sep 15 2020 08:40 pm

    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: MRO to Gate Keeper on Tue Sep 15 2020 04:31 pm

    i dont even think the mask does that. there's not proof of it really helping. the numbers keep going up according to the news. i dont see ho

    Really? Compare transmission numbers in countries where masks have been more readily adopted and you'll see an extremely clear correlation.

    And..... Here we go!

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Gate Keeper on Wed Sep 16 10:24:27 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Gate Keeper to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 15 2020 08:26 am

    Both my wife and I had it back in late March along with 4 co-workers. We all recovered but let me tell you, it is no joke. It will kick your ass like no other illness. Think of the common flu, now times that by 10.

    I caught it in April and didn't think it was anything worse than the common flu. I actually thought it was more mild than the flu, which I caught last year and affected me a lot worse than the CV. I believe the majority of people are completely asymptomatic and have no outward signs of having contracted the virus. There has been a few outbreaks in my areea and several of my friends have caught it, but they suffered less than I did. We are all young, fit and healthy though. Age and underlying illnesses are the main factors in bodily response to the disease.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 15 08:12:00 2020
    Dumas Walker wrote to MRO <=-

    I have wondered if it has more to do with health and lifestyle (and
    access to/wearing masks) than it does with the actual ethnic
    background. In the largest city in my state, we've been lead to
    believe that it is affecting persons of color in poor neighborhoods
    more than anyone else. When they show footage of these areas on the
    news, not many seem to be wearing masks.

    It's more socioeconomic than color-based. The more wealth you have,
    the better access to health care you've had, the better nutritional
    choices you've had available, and the more chance you have of being
    able to stay employed while working remotely.

    When I compare my situation to someone who has had limited access to
    health care, food scarcity, and has to leave the house to earn a
    paycheck during a pandemic, I feel fortunate - and I want to help.



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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Gate Keeper on Wed Sep 16 13:11:29 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Gate Keeper to MRO on Wed Sep 16 2020 09:00 am

    the masks are there to give people the feeling that they have some control.

    I'll have to agree with that one. But like I said, I've had it and it is lik nothing you have experienced before. I'm thankful I don't have any medical conditions.
    If I listen to you guys it makes OK for me to not cover my mouth when I cough or sneeze. Come on! Use your heads guys. Some of the shit you say makes no fucking sense! I wish I could be near you so I can blow my snot all over you.
    See how you like it.

    HusTler
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to MRO on Wed Sep 16 07:17:00 2020
    MRO wrote to Gate Keeper <=-

    they could have had medical problems that you didnt know about. very
    very few actually died of the corona virus only and not had any pre existing conditions.

    They're still dead.



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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dr. What on Wed Sep 16 16:07:26 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Dr. What to HusTler on Sun Sep 13 2020 10:08 am

    The good news is that shortly after Nov. 4 COVID will mysteriously be solved and the Leftie Media will be harping about the latest hoax.

    The fires are a HOAX.

    And even if they're not, they only kill a small percentage of the population. And you can't even trust those numbers - if someone dies of a heart attack while their house is burning down, that death is still counted as a fire death! And even if the deaths are higher, my family is fine - we don't live in or near a forest.

    So WHY is it ok to take MY rights, my right to bar-b-que, my right to light fireworks at a gender reveal, my right to ride my quad in the woods, and my right to shoot my guns wherever i damn well please?! IT'S OPPRESSION. IT'S UNAMERICAN.

    I've done my research and you won't change my mind. WAKE UP SHEEPLE.

    DaiTengu

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Underminer on Wed Sep 16 16:43:16 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Underminer to MRO on Tue Sep 15 2020 08:40 pm

    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: MRO to Gate Keeper on Tue Sep 15 2020 04:31 pm

    i dont even think the mask does that. there's not proof of it really
    helping. the numbers keep going up according to the news. i dont see
    how a

    Really? Compare transmission numbers in countries where masks have been more readily adopted and you'll see an extremely clear correlation.


    there's all kinds of factors and figures you have to process. i'm in an area with a huge number of cases and we all were forced to wear masks and we did, and nothing really changed.

    i dont trust the CDC, i dont trust the 'science' because i've seen it bent to people's wills, and i dont trust the belief that a rag on your face will prevent infection or prevent spreading of the virus.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Gate Keeper on Wed Sep 16 16:53:37 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Gate Keeper to MRO on Wed Sep 16 2020 09:00 am

    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: MRO to Gate Keeper on Tue Sep 15 2020 04:31 pm

    the masks are there to give people the feeling that they have some
    control.

    I'll have to agree with that one. But like I said, I've had it and it is like nothing you have experienced before. I'm thankful I don't have any medical conditions.

    i'm sure i've had it and i feel fine. i think the baby had it too.
    she was acting frumpy for a while. i'm sure the mother had it. she felt sick and had a cough that took a long time to go a way.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Wed Sep 16 16:55:42 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Andeddu to Gate Keeper on Wed Sep 16 2020 10:24 am

    I caught it in April and didn't think it was anything worse than the common flu. I actually thought it was more mild than the flu, which I caught last year and affected me a lot worse than the CV. I believe the majority of people are completely asymptomatic and have no outward signs of having contracted the virus. There has been a few outbreaks in my areea and several of my friends have caught it, but they suffered less than I did. We are all young, fit and healthy though. Age and underlying illnesses are the main factors in bodily response to the disease.


    i know a guy that had it and it was horrible and he had to take a week off. the coworker he was training was sick 3 days, his uncle was real sick [pre existing conditions]

    another guy just lost his sense of taste and smell and felt weird.
    his buddy got wrecked for a week when he had it.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Sep 16 16:57:39 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Tue Sep 15 2020 08:12 am

    Dumas Walker wrote to MRO <=-

    I have wondered if it has more to do with health and lifestyle (and
    access to/wearing masks) than it does with the actual ethnic
    background. In the largest city in my state, we've been lead to
    believe that it is affecting persons of color in poor neighborhoods
    more than anyone else. When they show footage of these areas on the
    news, not many seem to be wearing masks.

    It's more socioeconomic than color-based. The more wealth you have,
    the better access to health care you've had, the better nutritional choices you've had available, and the more chance you have of being
    able to stay employed while working remotely.

    When I compare my situation to someone who has had limited access to health care, food scarcity, and has to leave the house to earn a
    paycheck during a pandemic, I feel fortunate - and I want to help.



    i just personally know people of color getting real sick from covid.
    what do you mean about healthcare? you can go into an emergency room and get free treatment and not pay.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Sep 16 17:00:29 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to MRO on Wed Sep 16 2020 07:17 am

    MRO wrote to Gate Keeper <=-

    they could have had medical problems that you didnt know about. very
    very few actually died of the corona virus only and not had any pre
    existing conditions.

    They're still dead.


    150,000 people die each day of other shit and nobody cares.
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  • From ROBERT WOLFE@VERT/OTHETA to UNDERMINER on Wed Sep 16 06:29:00 2020
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    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Hakuchi to HusTler on Tue Sep 15 2020 07:18 pm

    In fact we sure don't need to wear mask. Firstly they don't work ... https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/masks-dont-work-covid-a-review-of-s

    Oh god, this nonsense AGAIN? Seriously. Fucking. Stop. Yes, masks do little

    I don't wear a mask to protect myself; I wear a mask to protect YOUR goddamn

    Fuck sakes.
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    I think if you find a decent mask, wearing one is not so bad. I found
    a nice one that came with extra filters in one of my spam postings on
    my Facebook page. The website I ordered it from was on point with the desciption of the item and its quality. Now all of my GSX-R buddies go
    out in public safely in style :)

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Wed Sep 16 21:40:08 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Sep 16 2020 04:57 pm

    i just personally know people of color getting real sick from covid.
    what do you mean about healthcare? you can go into an emergency room and get free treatment and not pay.

    How do you not pay for an emergency room visit? I thought all hospital visits in the US would be paid by you out of pocket unless you have health insurance of some kind.

    Nightfox

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  • From Underminer@VERT/UNDRMINE to MRO on Thu Sep 17 01:32:02 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: MRO to Underminer on Wed Sep 16 2020 04:43 pm

    there's all kinds of factors and figures you have to process. i'm in an area with a huge number of cases and we all were forced to wear masks and we did, and nothing really changed.

    Now that's a take that's at least based on something tangible, and I can understand that skepticism. I'll just counter with this: to get to that kind of case count there was an exponential growth faze at some point, right? Has growth since that point continued to be exponential, been more linear, or stayed fairly constant?

    i dont trust the CDC, i dont trust the 'science' because i've seen it bent to people's wills, and i dont trust the belief that a rag on your face will prevent infection or prevent spreading of the virus. ---

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Gate Keeper on Thu Sep 17 20:55:00 2020
    On 09-16-20 09:00, Gate Keeper wrote to MRO <=-

    @VIA: VERT/THEGATEB
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: MRO to Gate Keeper on Tue Sep 15 2020 04:31 pm

    the masks are there to give people the feeling that they have some control.

    I'll have to agree with that one. But like I said, I've had it and it
    is like nothing you have experienced before. I'm thankful I don't have
    any medical conditions.

    Did you have any lasting effects from covid?


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to DaiTengu on Thu Sep 17 21:05:00 2020
    On 09-16-20 16:07, DaiTengu wrote to Dr. What <=-

    The fires are a HOAX.

    Haha, then what am I doing riding around in a big red truck, and what's that hot smoky orange stuff? :D

    Well, it's not fire season here yet, but that's only a couple of months away, but plenty of other things to deal with. Spent much of yesterday at an industrial incident. :/


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Underminer on Thu Sep 17 08:47:00 2020
    Underminer wrote to Hakuchi <=-

    Oh god, this nonsense AGAIN? Seriously. Fucking. Stop. Yes, masks do little or nothing to prevent the inhalation of airborne virus
    particles. That's not what we're trying to accomplish with them, and precisely why we need everyone on board. Do you think this droplets
    just magically appear in the air? Or do you think that maybe someone
    has to breath or cough or sneeze them out? If the latter, do you think that maybe, just maybe, putting something in front of your god damn
    mouth might reduce either the number of droplets exiting that can
    disperse viral particles, or reduce the velocity of their exit and
    hence the contagious distance? Maybe?

    All that BS negated by Fauci publicly stating that asymptomatic people
    do not spread the virus. So, if you are sick and must go to the store, then yes, wear a mask. Everyone does doesn't need to.

    The state mask mandates are 100% political and with the intent to keep
    people scared.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Thu Sep 17 11:31:00 2020
    they could have had medical problems that you didnt know about. very very few actually died of the corona virus only and not had any pre existing conditions.

    They're still dead.

    Yeah, but a lot of them would have died regardless of whether or not there
    was a virus going around. Others did because the had a condition that was
    not currently going to be fatal but coronavirus caused it to be.

    They are lumping all those folks together as "covid deaths," but that is
    very misleading.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DAITENGU on Thu Sep 17 11:39:00 2020
    So WHY is it ok to take MY rights, my right to bar-b-que, my right to light >fireworks at a gender reveal, my right to ride my quad in the woods, and my rig
    t to shoot my guns wherever i damn well please?! IT'S OPPRESSION. IT'S UNAMER
    CAN.

    I know you are being facetious but doing any of those things during fire weather is really not bright. Folks have blamed the fires on global
    warming, but most of them are contained within the US borders and not in Mexico, for example. "Global" warming indicates that they should not be localized events.

    Now, if global warming causes stupidity within the borders of the United
    States only, then I guess they are right. Otherwise, it is just
    stupid people making dumb choices


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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Dumas Walker on Thu Sep 17 12:44:40 2020
    Re: FIRE! FIRE!
    By: Dumas Walker to DAITENGU on Thu Sep 17 2020 11:39 am

    I know you are being facetious but doing any of those things during fire weather is really not bright. Folks have blamed the fires on global warming, but most of them are contained within the US borders and not in Mexico, for example. "Global" warming indicates that they should not be localized events.

    You mean like in Austrailia early this year?

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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to DaiTengu on Fri Sep 18 09:01:00 2020
    DaiTengu wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    Re: FIRE! FIRE!
    By: Dumas Walker to DAITENGU on Thu Sep 17 2020 11:39 am

    I know you are being facetious but doing any of those things during fire weather is really not bright. Folks have blamed the fires on global warming, but most of them are contained within the US borders and not in Mexico, for example. "Global" warming indicates that they should not be localized events.

    You mean like in Austrailia early this year?

    The same debate happened here in Australia. We did have dry conditions prior to those awful fires, and claims that it was due to environmentalists disallowing hazard reduction burns or arson didn't really hold up in my analysis.

    By the way, how forested is Mexico?

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thu Sep 17 18:18:19 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Sep 16 2020 09:40 pm

    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Sep 16 2020 04:57 pm

    i just personally know people of color getting real sick from covid.
    what do you mean about healthcare? you can go into an emergency room
    and get free treatment and not pay.

    How do you not pay for an emergency room visit? I thought all hospital visits in the US would be paid by you out of pocket unless you have health insurance of some kind.

    Nightfox

    you just dont pay for the bill they give you and they drop it eventually.
    or it goes to collections.

    tons of people do it. that's why hospital visits are so expensive. you are covering those people that never paid and the lawsuits.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Thu Sep 17 18:28:31 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Thu Sep 17 2020 11:31 am

    they could have had medical problems that you didnt know about.
    very very few actually died of the corona virus only and not had
    any pre existing conditions.

    They're still dead.

    Yeah, but a lot of them would have died regardless of whether or not there was a virus going around. Others did because the had a condition that was not currently going to be fatal but coronavirus caused it to be.

    They are lumping all those folks together as "covid deaths," but that is very misleading.


    People nowadays are not healthy. especially americans. some 500lb guy who rides a little rascal and has a neck pillow stuck around his neck all the time and he has sleep apnea and his calves are huge and purple. he cant walk on his own more than a few steps. knocks back mountain dew all day and his teeth are all rotten. claiming disability becaused he's morbidly obese/

    this motherfucker had a chance to live if he didnt get covid?
    bullshit. he was playing russian roulette every day.
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  • From Underminer@VERT/UNDRMINE to Dr. What on Thu Sep 17 18:47:30 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Dr. What to Underminer on Thu Sep 17 2020 08:47 am

    All that BS negated by Fauci publicly stating that asymptomatic people
    do not spread the virus. So, if you are sick and must go to the store, then yes, wear a mask. Everyone does doesn't need to.

    The only way that works is if we're policing people entering these establishments, and that's far more of an impingement of any individual rights than just wearing a god damn piece of fabric. Besides, facial recognition software is having a hell of a time with all these mask wearing folks, so take it as an excuse to stick it to the surveilance state with the state's own mandated policies ;)
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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to MRO on Fri Sep 18 00:00:55 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: MRO to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Sep 16 2020 05:00 pm

    150,000 people die each day of other shit and nobody cares.

    606,880 people in the USA died of cancer in 2019. 655,000 died of heart disease too in the same year...

    No one is really trying to get people to live healthier lives by actively pursuading them to eat good food and exercise. A huge number of those deaths are avoidable.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Dennisk on Fri Sep 18 19:55:00 2020
    On 09-18-20 09:01, Dennisk wrote to DaiTengu <=-

    The same debate happened here in Australia. We did have dry conditions prior to those awful fires, and claims that it was due to environmentalists disallowing hazard reduction burns or arson didn't really hold up in my analysis.

    The chief cause for any lack of hazard reduction burns turned out to be a lack of suitable weather conditions - the transition from winter conditions to high risk fire conditions happened too quickly.

    Hmm, funny that, climate change might have something to do with these conditions. ;)

    Also, I've never seen fires burning simultaneously in so many parts of Australia. Normally the fire season works its way down the east coast progressively, as summer progresses.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DAITENGU on Fri Sep 18 16:18:00 2020
    I know you are being facetious but doing any of those things during fire weather is really not bright. Folks have blamed the fires on global warming, but most of them are contained within the US borders and not in Mexico, for example. "Global" warming indicates that they should not be localized events.

    You mean like in Austrailia early this year?

    Yes. Weren't those set by humans also?

    Mother Nature is not setting most of these in the US. It is humans either setting them accidentally or on purpose during the Dry Season. A few have
    been sparked by lightning. It is called the Dry Season for a reason, has
    been called that for as long as I can remember, and global warming or no it
    is not normally a good time to be setting fires.


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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to Vk3jed on Sat Sep 19 12:29:00 2020
    Vk3jed wrote to Dennisk <=-

    On 09-18-20 09:01, Dennisk wrote to DaiTengu <=-

    The same debate happened here in Australia. We did have dry conditions prior to those awful fires, and claims that it was due to environmentalists disallowing hazard reduction burns or arson didn't really hold up in my analysis.

    The chief cause for any lack of hazard reduction burns turned out to be
    a lack of suitable weather conditions - the transition from winter conditions to high risk fire conditions happened too quickly.

    Hmm, funny that, climate change might have something to do with these conditions. ;)

    Also, I've never seen fires burning simultaneously in so many parts of Australia. Normally the fire season works its way down the east coast progressively, as summer progresses.


    PotHoler54 did a good video on this. The responsible agencies themselves stated it wasn't the "Greens", but lack of suitable opportunities to do so.

    People seem to think you can just start a fire any time of the year on a whim, wherever. But such burns need to be carefully managed and planned. You need the right conditions in the right area at the right time.


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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 19 12:42:00 2020
    Dumas Walker wrote to DAITENGU <=-

    I know you are being facetious but doing any of those things during
    fire
    weather is really not bright. Folks have blamed the fires on global warming, but most of them are contained within the US borders and not
    in
    Mexico, for example. "Global" warming indicates that they should not be localized events.

    You mean like in Austrailia early this year?

    Yes. Weren't those set by humans also?

    Mother Nature is not setting most of these in the US. It is humans
    either setting them accidentally or on purpose during the Dry Season.
    A few have been sparked by lightning. It is called the Dry Season for
    a reason, has been called that for as long as I can remember, and
    global warming or no it is not normally a good time to be setting
    fires.

    The large ones were not.

    Figures are thrown out about the number of fires started by people, and those of natural causes. But if you look at the AREA burnt, its the inverse. The majority of area burnt was due to fires NOT deliberately lit.

    People don't walk for an hour deep in the wilderness to start an uncontrollable fire.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Andeddu on Fri Sep 18 21:54:41 2020
    Re: Re: Masks made simple
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Fri Sep 18 2020 08:28 am

    Re: Re: Masks made simple
    By: MRO to nolageek on Thu Sep 17 2020 06:30 pm

    that talk about selfishness and protecting others is just mind
    control to get people to wear them. we should be focusing more on
    things that really work like separating and washing our hands.

    Washing hands is something people should already be doing. But sadly (and this was mentioned in another thread not too long ago), there are adults who don't wash their hands after using the bathroom..



    the main boss at my workplace never washed his hands. i told everyone not to shake his hand. but he is a germ freak too. he retired when the corona virus shit hit.
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  • From Underminer@VERT/UNDRMINE to MRO on Sat Sep 19 03:14:47 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: MRO to Andeddu on Fri Sep 18 2020 09:54 pm

    the main boss at my workplace never washed his hands. i told everyone not to shake his hand. but he is a germ freak too. he retired when the corona

    Those two things should be counter-indicative
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Dennisk on Sat Sep 19 18:31:00 2020
    On 09-19-20 12:29, Dennisk wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    PotHoler54 did a good video on this. The responsible agencies
    themselves stated it wasn't the "Greens", but lack of suitable opportunities to do so.

    Exactly, and this has been widely reported by reputable news sources.

    People seem to think you can just start a fire any time of the year on
    a whim, wherever. But such burns need to be carefully managed and planned. You need the right conditions in the right area at the right time.

    Precisely, everything has to be right, before a burn can be conducted.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 19 19:49:00 2020
    On 09-18-20 16:18, Dumas Walker wrote to DAITENGU <=-

    Yes. Weren't those set by humans also?

    Some were of human origin (I think more careless rather than malicious), some were lightning.


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Dennisk on Sat Sep 19 19:51:00 2020
    On 09-19-20 12:42, Dennisk wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    You mean like in Austrailia early this year?

    Yes. Weren't those set by humans also?

    The large ones were not.

    I thought that. I remember a couple of the major ones were definitely started by lightning.

    People don't walk for an hour deep in the wilderness to start an uncontrollable fire.

    Generally not. :)


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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to Vk3jed on Sat Sep 19 21:46:00 2020
    Vk3jed wrote to Dennisk <=-

    On 09-19-20 12:42, Dennisk wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    You mean like in Austrailia early this year?

    Yes. Weren't those set by humans also?

    The large ones were not.

    I thought that. I remember a couple of the major ones were definitely started by lightning.

    People don't walk for an hour deep in the wilderness to start an uncontrollable fire.

    Generally not. :)


    Lightning is the main cause, and I do recall shortly before they started there were concerns about lightning starting fires. Electrical cables are another potential source. But for it to be arson, someone would have to park, walk an hour in the national park, start a fire, and GET OUT ALIVE!!

    That is not to say arson doesn't happen, but such fires occur in more accessible areas.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DENNISK on Sat Sep 19 09:29:00 2020
    The large ones were not.

    Figures are thrown out about the number of fires started by people, and those of natural causes. But if you look at the AREA burnt, its the inverse. The majority of area burnt was due to fires NOT deliberately lit.

    People don't walk for an hour deep in the wilderness to start an uncontrollabl
    fire.

    They might not there, but here I am not so sure.

    What caused the big ones there, lightning?


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Underminer on Sat Sep 19 12:04:00 2020
    Underminer wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Besides, facial
    recognition software is having a hell of a time with all these mask wearing folks, so take it as an excuse to stick it to the surveilance state with the state's own mandated policies ;) ---

    Now **that** is a good reason to wear a mask!


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to MRO on Sat Sep 19 12:18:00 2020
    MRO wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    People nowadays are not healthy. especially americans. some 500lb guy
    who rides a little rascal and has a neck pillow stuck around his neck
    all the time and he has sleep apnea and his calves are huge and purple.
    he cant walk on his own more than a few steps. knocks back mountain dew all day and his teeth are all rotten. claiming disability becaused he's morbidly obese/

    this motherfucker had a chance to live if he didnt get covid?
    bullshit. he was playing russian roulette every day.

    Too true, unfortunately.

    I had a co-worker that was very overweight. One day, I saw him coming back to his desk sweaty and breathing hard. I thought
    that he had run up the stairs, but no. He had just walked from one end of the building to the other (all flat walking).

    It was hard to watch because he was showing all the same symptoms that my dad was showing shortly before he died. I tried
    to talk to him about it, but he just couldn't get the message.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Vk3jed on Sat Sep 19 06:03:00 2020
    Vk3jed wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    Some were of human origin (I think more careless rather than
    malicious), some were lightning.

    I remember a geopolitical writer called "war nerd" talking about how
    if terrorists wanted to have their way with the US, instead of
    risking a dirty bomb into a west coast port like Oakland or Long
    Beach, sending 2 dozen 'jihadists' with Bic lighters to start
    coordinated fires all along the west coast during the summer. It'd do
    more damage and cost a lot less to execute.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 19 15:07:53 2020
    Re: Re: FIRE! FIRE!
    By: Dumas Walker to DENNISK on Sat Sep 19 2020 09:29 am

    The large ones were not.

    Figures are thrown out about the number of fires started by people,
    and those of natural causes. But if you look at the AREA burnt, its
    the inverse. The majority of area burnt was due to fires NOT
    deliberately lit.

    People don't walk for an hour deep in the wilderness to start an
    uncontrollabl
    fire.

    They might not there, but here I am not so sure.

    What caused the big ones there, lightning?



    sometimes it's pyromaniacs. there was one guy who would just go around with a simple lighter and light shit up. it was so dry everything was super flammable.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dr. What on Sat Sep 19 15:11:52 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Dr. What to MRO on Sat Sep 19 2020 12:18 pm

    to his desk sweaty and breathing hard. I thought
    that he had run up the stairs, but no. He had just walked from one end of the building to the other (all flat walking).

    It was hard to watch because he was showing all the same symptoms that my dad was showing shortly before he died. I tried
    to talk to him about it, but he just couldn't get the message.


    we had this guy at my work. dennis was in horrible shape. his gut would hang under his shirt and he could barely walk. he had diabetes and god knows what else and he was in horrible shape. he spent half the day at the snack machine.

    i guess he had oozing sores on his legs and all kinds of problems. went to the bar every night. had his own stool because he was so disgusting.

    he retired and he died 7 months later.
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  • From hollowone@VERT/AMIGAC to Dr. What on Sat Sep 19 21:39:00 2020
    Besides, facial
    recognition software is having a hell of a time with all these mask wearing folks, so take it as an excuse to stick it to the surveilance state with the state's own mandated policies ;) ---

    Now **that** is a good reason to wear a mask!

    Actually very true! This is also very tempting every time I visit some store to start shopping with a phrase: "I love you hunny-bunnies, but stay fucking calm and this is a fucking robbery". But sanity check tells me not to do it ;-)

    /h1



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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Dr. What on Sat Sep 19 20:06:58 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Dr. What to Underminer on Sat Sep 19 2020 12:04 pm

    Besides, facial
    recognition software is having a hell of a time with all these mask wearing folks, so take it as an excuse to stick it to the surveilance state with the state's own mandated policies ;) ---

    Officer I've been robbed. "What did they look like?" I dunno. They had a mask on!

    HusTler
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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to Dumas Walker on Sun Sep 20 10:47:00 2020
    Dumas Walker wrote to DENNISK <=-

    The large ones were not.

    Figures are thrown out about the number of fires started by people, and
    those
    of natural causes. But if you look at the AREA burnt, its the inverse. The majority of area burnt was due to fires NOT deliberately lit.

    People don't walk for an hour deep in the wilderness to start an
    uncontrollabl

    fire.

    They might not there, but here I am not so sure.

    What caused the big ones there, lightning?


    Dry lightning. Clouds roll in, there are some lightning strikes, but no rain. Overall, I think there are LESS thunderstorms than there used to be when I was little. I remember there being more, but it would also rain as well during the storm. Our climate is more like that found inland, than a coastal one now.


    There was, if I recall correctly, a known risk from dry lightning in the days preceding the fires. Combine that with some wind, and it gets out of control quickly. We did have drought like conditions and a very mild winter that year (and the year before), so things were quite dry. There were concerns about a bad fire season beforehand because of how the previous months had been. This year had been mild and dry as well (except for a fairly unqiue cold snap), so I think it will again be quite hazardous.



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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Dennisk on Sun Sep 20 19:19:00 2020
    On 09-19-20 21:46, Dennisk wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Lightning is the main cause, and I do recall shortly before they
    started there were concerns about lightning starting fires. Electrical cables are another potential source. But for it to be arson, someone

    Electrical faults have started a number of major fires in Victoria, uncluding one of the deadliest Black Saturday fires, and some of the Ash Wednesday fires.

    Actually, I was watching Landline a few years ago and the segment was about farmers who were hosting wind turbines on their property for a steady income in lean times. A significant fire started on such a farmer's property when a crow took a wrong step and created a short between an active wire and a cross arm on a high voltage line. The crow fell to the ground in flames and started the fire.

    And yes, I also remember the lightning concerns.

    would have to park, walk an hour in the national park, start a fire,
    and GET OUT ALIVE!!

    That is not to say arson doesn't happen, but such fires occur in more accessible areas.

    True!


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Sep 20 20:17:00 2020
    On 09-19-20 06:03, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    @VIA: VERT/REALITY
    Vk3jed wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    Some were of human origin (I think more careless rather than
    malicious), some were lightning.

    I remember a geopolitical writer called "war nerd" talking about how
    if terrorists wanted to have their way with the US, instead of
    risking a dirty bomb into a west coast port like Oakland or Long
    Beach, sending 2 dozen 'jihadists' with Bic lighters to start
    coordinated fires all along the west coast during the summer. It'd do
    more damage and cost a lot less to execute.

    Mother Nature seems perfectly capable of doing that without our help. ;)


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DENNISK on Sun Sep 20 09:28:00 2020
    Dry lightning. Clouds roll in, there are some lightning strikes, but no rain. >Overall, I think there are LESS thunderstorms than there used to be when I was >little. I remember there being more, but it would also rain as well during the
    storm. Our climate is more like that found inland, than a coastal one now.

    That is what causes a lot of the ones in the Western US also. The rain
    dries up before it reaches the ground, but the lightning persists.

    Once a few fires get going that way, the fire bugs tend to get drawn out. :(


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Sun Sep 20 22:21:00 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: MRO to Dr. What on Sat Sep 19 2020 03:11 pm

    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Dr. What to MRO on Sat Sep 19 2020 12:18 pm

    to his desk sweaty and breathing hard. I thought
    that he had run up the stairs, but no. He had just walked from one end the building to the other (all flat walking).

    It was hard to watch because he was showing all the same symptoms that dad was showing shortly before he died. I tried
    to talk to him about it, but he just couldn't get the message.


    we had this guy at my work. dennis was in horrible shape. his gut would han

    i guess he had oozing sores on his legs and all kinds of problems. went to t

    he retired and he died 7 months later.
    that's no way to live.

    oozing sores on the legs indicates half the heart is working harder than the other. Imagine a pump being clogged up so it can't recirculate the the high volume of fluid being backed up. The fluid has to go somewhere.

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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to HusTler on Mon Sep 21 09:08:00 2020
    HusTler wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Officer I've been robbed. "What did they look like?" I dunno. They
    had a mask on!

    I can recall, not that many years ago, where banks told people not to wear hoodies (I assume masks were already verboten).

    Now, you enter a bank **without** a mask and you get yelled at.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Moondog on Mon Sep 21 09:53:00 2020
    Moondog wrote to MRO <=-

    oozing sores on the legs indicates half the heart is working harder
    than the other. Imagine a pump being clogged up so it can't
    recirculate the the high volume of fluid being backed up. The fluid has
    to go somewhere.

    My dad had the same issue. The term they used is "edema" - swelling due to excess fluid trapped in the body's tissues.

    When your heart is not working correctly, edema is a big problem.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dr. What on Mon Sep 21 15:06:00 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Dr. What to Moondog on Mon Sep 21 2020 09:53 am

    Moondog wrote to MRO <=-

    oozing sores on the legs indicates half the heart is working harder than the other. Imagine a pump being clogged up so it can't recirculate the the high volume of fluid being backed up. The fluid has to go somewhere.

    My dad had the same issue. The term they used is "edema" - swelling due to excess fluid trapped in the body's tissues.

    When your heart is not working correctly, edema is a big problem.


    ... I was talking during sex and my girlfriend hung up.

    I knew someone who had a heart iussue that was triggered by disewase and
    poor living habits, and he began to swell up and get sores on his legs. He asked me to give him a ride to the clinic, then before you knew it I was running him to the Emergency Room. They checked him in, and put him on a med that helped him pee away most of the liquid he was retaining. He was also
    put on blood pressure meds and a water pill. His heart was running 85% capacity on one side. In a month he lost about 50 pounds (most was liquid)
    and racked up a huge medical bill. He changed several of his habits, but now he has a girlfriend that likes to drink and eat out at restaurants, so he's picking up weight again. Their work schedules are different enough they don't
    want to go hiking or other outdoorsy stuff when they are together. she
    pretty much runs his life, and is on the phone with him when he's by
    himself.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dr. What on Mon Sep 21 19:40:59 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Dr. What to HusTler on Mon Sep 21 2020 09:08 am

    HusTler wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Officer I've been robbed. "What did they look like?" I dunno. They
    had a mask on!

    I can recall, not that many years ago, where banks told people not to wear hoodies (I assume masks were already verboten).

    Now, you enter a bank **without** a mask and you get yelled at.




    people are doing walk off robberies and the police post "do you recognize this person" and they're wearing a mask.

    you can go in with a ninja mask or darth vader mask and nobody would bat an eye.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dr. What on Mon Sep 21 19:41:38 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Dr. What to Moondog on Mon Sep 21 2020 09:53 am

    Moondog wrote to MRO <=-

    oozing sores on the legs indicates half the heart is working harder
    than the other. Imagine a pump being clogged up so it can't
    recirculate the the high volume of fluid being backed up. The fluid
    has to go somewhere.

    My dad had the same issue. The term they used is "edema" - swelling due to excess fluid trapped in the body's tissues.

    When your heart is not working correctly, edema is a big problem.



    thats your body telling you something is fucking wrong here.
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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Dr. What on Mon Sep 21 20:57:42 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Dr. What to HusTler on Mon Sep 21 2020 09:08 am

    Officer I've been robbed. "What did they look like?" I dunno. They
    had a mask on!

    I can recall, not that many years ago, where banks told people not to wear hoodies (I assume masks were already verboten).

    Now, you enter a bank **without** a mask and you get yelled at.

    I'll tell you what.. It make me very nervous at night to walk by someone wearing a mask. (Covid Mask) If they held me at gun point and robbed me, there's no way I could ID them. Just sayin. We live in dangerous times.

    HusTler
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  • From Hakuchi@VERT to HusTler on Tue Sep 22 16:31:00 2020
    HusTler wrote to Hakuchi <=-

    As long as I don't make her sick. I'd rather be safe then sorry. But I suppose there are a lot of people like you out there killing their
    Moms.

    How come you would make her sick? Are you sick for some contagious disease? If not why you make her afraid for no reason? I wouldn't ... and I'm not "out there to kill my mother" nor anyone elses for that matter.


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  • From Hakuchi@VERT to Underminer on Tue Sep 22 16:38:00 2020
    Underminer wrote to Hakuchi <=-

    I don't wear a mask to protect myself; I wear a mask to protect YOUR goddamn dumb ass. Please do ME the courtesy of valuing my safety over a tiny bit of discomfort on your end.

    From what you would be protecting MY goddamn dumb ass from? Do you happen to know that this nonsense about some "virus" going around is not scientifially sound? Have you heard of Koch's postulates? Or the fact that there is no virus isolated or purified? All about this scandemic is just fearmongering ... But If you like to be afraid and virtue signaling to the whole world how good sheep you are wearing your face-diaper and distancing and all what they say. Don't be surprised that one day you will feel rather stupid when this all blows apart and people like you will see throught the smokescreens.

    Fuck sakes.

    Indeed ...
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  • From Underminer@VERT/UNDRMINE to Hakuchi on Tue Sep 22 14:57:16 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Hakuchi to HusTler on Tue Sep 22 2020 04:31 pm

    How come you would make her sick? Are you sick for some contagious disease? If not why you make her afraid for no reason? I wouldn't ... and I'm not "out there to kill my mother" nor anyone elses for that matter.

    No, you're just ignorant of basic biology/virology and too stupid to realize it.
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  • From paulie420@VERT/BEERS20 to Hakuchi on Tue Sep 22 21:15:00 2020
    I don't wear a mask to protect myself; I wear a mask to protect YOUR goddamn dumb ass. Please do ME the courtesy of valuing my safety over tiny bit of discomfort on your end.

    From what you would be protecting MY goddamn dumb ass from? Do you
    happen to know that this nonsense about some "virus" going around is not scientifially sound? Have you heard of Koch's postulates? Or the fact
    that there is no virus isolated or purified? All about this scandemic is just fearmongering ... But If you like to be afraid and virtue signaling to the whole world how good sheep you are wearing your face-diaper and distancing and all what they say. Don't be surprised that one day you
    will feel rather stupid when this all blows apart and people like you
    will see throught the smokescreens.

    Fuck sakes.

    Indeed ...
    ... ^~\MEH_™Z!';;_

    Idiots. Just wear a fucking mask already; regardless of who's right and wrong
    - just fucking wear it because thats what science says is smartest today.

    I'm just sick and tired of idiot Americans fucking it up for the rest of us
    who could get on with our lives other than retards not wearing a goddamn clothed mask.

    It isn't that hard. Shut up. Wear a mask - open our country.

    Fucking idiots.



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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to Moondog on Wed Sep 23 11:30:00 2020
    I knew someone who had a heart iussue that was triggered by disewase
    and poor living habits, and he began to swell up and get sores on his legs. He asked me to give him a ride to the clinic, then before you
    knew it I was running him to the Emergency Room. They checked him in,
    and put him on a med that helped him pee away most of the liquid he was retaining. He was also put on blood pressure meds and a water pill.
    His heart was running 85% capacity on one side. In a month he lost
    about 50 pounds (most was liquid) and racked up a huge medical bill.
    He changed several of his habits, but now he has a girlfriend that
    likes to drink and eat out at restaurants, so he's picking up weight again. Their work schedules are different enough they don't
    want to go hiking or other outdoorsy stuff when they are together.
    she pretty much runs his life, and is on the phone with him when he's
    by himself.

    It's hard to get healthy when you've spent most of your life unhealthy.

    I used to weigh 360 lbs, size 60 waist. I took strong blood pressure meds. What saved me was that I did get out an exercise somewhat, but my diet was poor.

    Finally my doctor told me I was boardline diabetic and I would need to start monitoring my blood sugar. There are certain things that really bother me
    and one of them is hurting (even a small poke) myself. So I set out to change things.

    10 years later, I'm 220 lbs, 42 waist, very weak blood pressure medicine
    (high blood pressure is genetic in my family). I eat mostly veggies now
    and exercise daily (which has been hard during the scam-demic with the gyms closed).

    It helped that during that time I took up ballroom dancing and found a wife
    who likes to eat healthy and exercise too. It would have been harder to
    stay on the "straight and narrow" without her, but it would be impossible
    if she was against eating well and exercising.

    A friend of mine at work had to lose lots of weight for knee surgery. But
    his wife kept with the bad eating habits and he ended up getting just as
    heavy as he was before the surgery.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to MRO on Wed Sep 23 11:33:00 2020
    MRO wrote to Dr. What <=-

    When your heart is not working correctly, edema is a big problem.

    thats your body telling you something is fucking wrong here.
    but these people just shrug it off.

    No. They don't want to face reality and make the necessary lifestyle
    changes.

    I have a cousin who's not quite at that point yet. Even though my dad
    died from these issues and I've lost the weight and kept it off, my cousin doesn't want to make the changes.

    At some point, she won't have choice.


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  • From Dr. What@VERT/DMINE to paulie420 on Wed Sep 23 11:44:00 2020
    paulie420 wrote to Hakuchi <=-

    Idiots. Just wear a fucking mask already; regardless of who's right and wrong - just fucking wear it because thats what science says is
    smartest today.

    Science says nothing of the sort. Or are you talking the selective "science" that the Lefties use to push their Narrative?

    I'm just sick and tired of idiot Americans fucking it up for the rest
    of us who could get on with our lives other than retards not wearing a goddamn clothed mask.

    Getting on with our lives has nothing to do with wearing a mask. It's about leftie "leaders" who are drunk with power and want to tell everyone how
    to live.

    Fact: 98% of people who get COVID won't even show symptoms.
    Fact: Asymptomatic people don't spread COVID.

    So there is absolutely no reason for EVERYONE to wear a mask.

    Sure, if you're sick and showing symptoms and you NEED to go to the store,
    wear one. But no one else needs to.

    It isn't that hard. Shut up. Wear a mask - open our country.

    Ah, yes. The standard Leftie "Just do what we tell you. We know what's best for you. Obey our commands."

    How about "We are adults and can make up our own minds." and "Take away the stupid, non-science based restrictions that you've imposed so that we can
    get everything working again."

    Oh, but that would force the Lefties to admit that they were wrong, which
    they will never do. And Lefties always double down on their bad decisions.

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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to Dr. What on Thu Sep 24 01:54:00 2020
    Dr. What wrote to paulie420 <=-

    paulie420 wrote to Hakuchi <=-

    Idiots. Just wear a fucking mask already; regardless of who's right and wrong - just fucking wear it because thats what science says is
    smartest today.

    Science says nothing of the sort. Or are you talking the selective "science" that the Lefties use to push their Narrative?

    I'm just sick and tired of idiot Americans fucking it up for the rest
    of us who could get on with our lives other than retards not wearing a goddamn clothed mask.

    Getting on with our lives has nothing to do with wearing a mask. It's about leftie "leaders" who are drunk with power and want to tell
    everyone how to live.

    Fact: 98% of people who get COVID won't even show symptoms.
    Fact: Asymptomatic people don't spread COVID.

    So there is absolutely no reason for EVERYONE to wear a mask.

    Sure, if you're sick and showing symptoms and you NEED to go to the
    store, wear one. But no one else needs to.

    It isn't that hard. Shut up. Wear a mask - open our country.

    Ah, yes. The standard Leftie "Just do what we tell you. We know
    what's best for you. Obey our commands."

    How about "We are adults and can make up our own minds." and "Take away the stupid, non-science based restrictions that you've imposed so that
    we can get everything working again."

    Oh, but that would force the Lefties to admit that they were wrong,
    which they will never do. And Lefties always double down on their bad decisions.

    The LAST thing they want to do is treat people like adults, and leave responsibility in the hands of the individual. That would mean people might not behave exactly as they WANT them to behave. Our state government is more interesting controlling the activities of the healthy, than in stopping the virus. Army barricades on roads, curfews, heavy fines for being more than 5KM from home. Tell me what is good for me, then let ME run my own life with your information.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dr. What on Wed Sep 23 21:11:00 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Dr. What to Moondog on Wed Sep 23 2020 11:30 am

    I knew someone who had a heart iussue that was triggered by disewase and poor living habits, and he began to swell up and get sores on his legs. He asked me to give him a ride to the clinic, then before you knew it I was running him to the Emergency Room. They checked him in, and put him on a med that helped him pee away most of the liquid he was retaining. He was also put on blood pressure meds and a water pill. His heart was running 85% capacity on one side. In a month he lost about 50 pounds (most was liquid) and racked up a huge medical bill.
    He changed several of his habits, but now he has a girlfriend that likes to drink and eat out at restaurants, so he's picking up weight again. Their work schedules are different enough they don't
    want to go hiking or other outdoorsy stuff when they are together.
    she pretty much runs his life, and is on the phone with him when he's by himself.

    It's hard to get healthy when you've spent most of your life unhealthy.

    I used to weigh 360 lbs, size 60 waist. I took strong blood pressure meds. What saved me was that I did get out an exercise somewhat, but my diet was poor.

    Finally my doctor told me I was boardline diabetic and I would need to start monitoring my blood sugar. There are certain things that really bother me and one of them is hurting (even a small poke) myself. So I set out to chan things.

    10 years later, I'm 220 lbs, 42 waist, very weak blood pressure medicine (high blood pressure is genetic in my family). I eat mostly veggies now
    and exercise daily (which has been hard during the scam-demic with the gyms closed).

    It helped that during that time I took up ballroom dancing and found a wife who likes to eat healthy and exercise too. It would have been harder to stay on the "straight and narrow" without her, but it would be impossible
    if she was against eating well and exercising.

    A friend of mine at work had to lose lots of weight for knee surgery. But his wife kept with the bad eating habits and he ended up getting just as heavy as he was before the surgery.


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  • From Hakuchi@VERT to Underminer on Thu Sep 24 14:59:00 2020
    Underminer wrote to Hakuchi <=-

    No, you're just ignorant of basic biology/virology and too stupid to realize it. ---

    Assumptions, assumptions and more assumtions.

    You apparently are more knowleadge and know better than some professors and scientist who have dedicated their lives to the matter?

    Things are not how they say in the zombie-box. But if you are willing to believe what ever that talking head is saying in there, by all means be afraid and dig a hole in the ground. Go there cowering. Let us sensible people live as we used to before this nonsense begun.

    Or you don't find it rather peculiar that they use this RT-PCR to test for some "virus" when this tests inventor Kary Mullis, got a nobel for that mind you, have said it cannot me used for that. This was back in the great HIV/AIDS hype. Well, would you guess who was pushing that back in the day? No other that zeralot fraudci who is doing the very same at the moment ... with his pal kill pates.

    Not only that, but do you happen to know what they are looking for with this test, that cannot be used to diagnose infectious diseases?

    Can you tell the difference between: ctccctttgt tgtgttgt and
    TCCCTTTGTTGTGTTGT?

    Well ... let me enlighten you a bit.

    Latter one is from kill pates owned who's PCR test protocol primers and probes list. Found here:

    https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/real-time-rt-pcr-assays-for-the-detection-of-sars-cov-2-institut-pasteur-paris.pdf?sfvrsn=3662fcb6_2

    Second in the first table.

    And the first one is homo sapiens chromosome 8 primary assembly sequence.You do know chromosomes, right?

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nucleotide/NC_000008.11?report=genbank&log$=nuclalign&from=63648346&to=63648363

    At the very bottom of the page.

    Now tell me how that is not very peculiar to you? Since you are not stupid and you realise things about basic biology/virology.

    Please explain to me, why you don't find that alarming if they are looking for 18 character sequence that is found from everybody how happen to be part of human race?

    Have a nice day, Underminer (a very suitable alias for you, insn't it?)
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  • From Hakuchi@VERT to paulie420 on Thu Sep 24 15:04:00 2020
    paulie420 wrote to Hakuchi <=-

    Idiots. Just wear a fucking mask already; regardless of who's right and wrong - just fucking wear it because thats what science says is
    smartest today.

    No I wont, I do respect and apreciate my rights and freedoms too much to do such sumbission to nonsense.

    And why do science say that masks wont work? Also that there is no reason to do so ... since they don't work? Why would you want to do something that is not helping, even if we entertain that idea that there is something going around?

    I'm just sick and tired of idiot Americans fucking it up for the rest
    of us who could get on with our lives other than retards not wearing a goddamn clothed mask.

    You like police state then? You like to like in the world of 1984 and Brave New World? In the world that you have no say what happens in your life?

    It isn't that hard. Shut up. Wear a mask - open our country.

    Fucking idiots.

    Yes. All you say has been rather idiotic.


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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Hakuchi on Thu Sep 24 10:28:21 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Hakuchi to Underminer on Tue Sep 22 2020 04:38 pm

    I don't wear a mask to protect myself; I wear a mask to protect YOUR
    goddamn dumb ass. Please do ME the courtesy of valuing my safety
    over a tiny bit of discomfort on your end.

    From what you would be protecting MY goddamn dumb ass from? Do you happen to know that this nonsense about some "virus" going around is not scientifially sound? Have you heard of Koch's postulates? Or the fact that there is no virus isolated or purified? All about this scandemic is just fearmongering ... But If you like to be afraid and virtue signaling to the whole world how good sheep you are wearing your face-diaper and distancing and all what they say. Don't be surprised that one day you will feel rather stupid when this all blows apart and people like you will see throught the smokescreens.

    I honestly can't tell if this is satire or not. You ticked every single catchphrase box in the "COVID-19 conspiracy theorist nutjob" category.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to paulie420 on Wed Sep 23 10:11:00 2020
    paulie420 wrote to Hakuchi <=-

    I don't wear a mask to protect myself; I wear a mask to protect YOUR goddamn dumb ass. Please do ME the courtesy of valuing my safety over tiny bit of discomfort on your end.

    From what you would be protecting MY goddamn dumb ass from? Do you
    happen to know that this nonsense about some "virus" going around is not scientifially sound? Have you heard of Koch's postulates? Or the fact
    that there is no virus isolated or purified? All about this scandemic is just fearmongering ... But If you like to be afraid and virtue signaling to the whole world how good sheep you are wearing your face-diaper and distancing and all what they say. Don't be surprised that one day you
    will feel rather stupid when this all blows apart and people like you
    will see throught the smokescreens.

    Fuck sakes.

    Indeed ...
    ... ^~\MEH_™Z!';;_

    Idiots. Just wear a fucking mask already; regardless of who's right and wrong - just fucking wear it because thats what science says is
    smartest today.

    I'm just sick and tired of idiot Americans fucking it up for the rest
    of us who could get on with our lives other than retards not wearing a goddamn clothed mask.

    It isn't that hard. Shut up. Wear a mask - open our country.

    Fucking idiots.

    I live up in the Foothills in CA and when the shutdows started, everybody from others areas (Bay Area Mostly) poured in with trailers, boats, etc. It was like a huge vacation to them. Now we're in one of the highest tiers due to a lot of cases and now deaths are happening. I'm not sure about masks but wear one everywhere I go at this point. Most do in my area, but I run into a lot of people from outside our area up here that refuse to. Huge parties on the lake, or lake rentals, are happening and so on.... I always figured if people had done what we were asked this might not have happened as bad here. I don't know.... this has just been a hell of a year up here. Fires, Smoke, Power Outages, Covid and now facing more power outages due to PG&E's PPS Crap. I spent most of last October with no power and probably will this year too. Maybe it's time to bail on CA. Only 3 more years to pay on the house and 5 till retirement.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Fri Sep 25 19:06:00 2020
    MRO wrote to Underminer <=-

    Really? Compare transmission numbers in countries where masks have been more readily adopted and you'll see an extremely clear correlation.

    i dont trust the CDC, i dont trust the 'science' because i've
    seen it bent to people's wills, and i dont trust the belief that
    a rag on your face will prevent infection or prevent spreading of
    the virus.

    Idiot status confirmed.



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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to mro on Sat Sep 26 08:18:58 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Gamgee to MRO on Fri Sep 25 2020 07:06 pm

    i dont trust the CDC, i dont trust the 'science' because i've
    seen it bent to people's wills, and i dont trust the belief that
    a rag on your face will prevent infection or prevent spreading of
    the virus.

    Not even a little bit? Like Zero percent? How bout 50 percent?

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Sat Sep 26 15:49:33 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: HusTler to mro on Sat Sep 26 2020 08:18 am

    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Gamgee to MRO on Fri Sep 25 2020 07:06 pm

    i dont trust the CDC, i dont trust the 'science' because i've
    seen it bent to people's wills, and i dont trust the belief that
    a rag on your face will prevent infection or prevent spreading of
    the virus.

    Not even a little bit? Like Zero percent? How bout 50 percent?


    i dont think anybody can trust the CDC. we need something else with better structure and checks and balances.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to DaiTengu on Fri Sep 25 16:35:00 2020
    DaiTengu wrote to Hakuchi <=-

    I honestly can't tell if this is satire or not. You ticked every
    single catchphrase box in the "COVID-19 conspiracy theorist nutjob" category.

    Did he cover the "Bill Gates wants to inject you with a vaccine
    containing nano-tech" angle?



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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to MRO on Sun Sep 27 10:29:49 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: MRO to HusTler on Sat Sep 26 2020 03:49 pm

    seen it bent to people's wills, and i dont trust the belief that
    a rag on your face will prevent infection or prevent spreading of
    the virus.

    Not even a little bit? Like Zero percent? How bout 50 percent?


    i dont think anybody can trust the CDC. we need something else with better structure and checks and balances. ---

    Forget about what the CDC, Feds, whoever say. What do YOU think. Does a mask help in preventing the spread of germs?

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  • From Hakuchi@VERT to DaiTengu on Sun Sep 27 21:06:00 2020
    DaiTengu wrote to Hakuchi <=-

    I honestly can't tell if this is satire or not. You ticked every
    single catchphrase box in the "COVID-19 conspiracy theorist nutjob" category.

    Satire or not. Only satire is the fact that people like you refuse to see what
    is in front of their very eyes ... Unfortunately there are so many like you. It's rather distrubing to watch how people are willingly handing over their freedoms and rights.

    But ... let's entertain the idea that there is someting going on ... here are
    some facts from the Swiss Policy Research (yet another "conspiracy theorist nut job" website apparently, since it's not going along with the mainstream narrative, right?) https://swprs.org/facts-about-covid-19/



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Sun Sep 27 14:28:14 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: HusTler to MRO on Sun Sep 27 2020 10:29 am


    i dont think anybody can trust the CDC. we need something else with
    better structure and checks and balances. ---

    Forget about what the CDC, Feds, whoever say. What do YOU think. Does a mask help in preventing the spread of germs?

    no i dont think it helps with covid. only the n95 masks and not many have them. also you are touching things and touching your face and eyes more so i think it increases the likelyhood of you introducing the virus to your body that way.

    in my state most people are wearing masks religiously and every day we have more cases according to the media. it's been months and there's been no improvement.

    i think we have to depend on our bodies and stay healthy. americans are very very unhealthy and people with 2+ serious conditions dying from covid is indicicative of our poor health.

    i wish masks worked, but i really don't think they do. i think we should continue to social distance and stay clean.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Sun Sep 27 15:37:39 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: MRO to HusTler on Sun Sep 27 2020 02:28 pm

    Forget about what the CDC, Feds, whoever say. What do YOU think. Does a mask help in preventing the spread of germs?

    no i dont think it helps with covid. only the n95 masks and not many have them. also you are touching things and touching your face and eyes more so i think it increases the likelyhood of you introducing the virus to your body that way.

    Unwanted opinion here o/

    I think people lacks the discipline and equipment to avoid infection. Bars are full of people, people touches their faces without desinfecting their hands, that sort of thing. Most masks people is wearing nowadays are not designed to prevent people from getting infected by pathogens and the manufacturers themselves claim their masks are not suitable.

    However, if infection can't be exactly avoided, I think some safety practices help. If you are wearing a mark and somebody coughs on you, you will get infected, but the viral charge you'll get will get lower and, as far as I have heard, a lower viral charge of this thing is much more benign.

    So I am using masks myself, not because I think they are bulletproof, but because I think there is some benefit in them.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sun Sep 27 21:00:55 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Arelor to MRO on Sun Sep 27 2020 03:37 pm

    Unwanted opinion here o/

    I think people lacks the discipline and equipment to avoid infection. Bars are full of people, people touches their faces without desinfecting their hands, that sort of thing. Most masks people is wearing nowadays are not designed to prevent people from getting infected by pathogens and the manufacturers themselves claim their masks are not suitable.


    i think for a lot of us, this mask thing clashes with out culture.

    i would like to see more disinfecting of things. when i go into a walmart they still have some dirty ass carts. i dont believe these people are disinfecting them. they say they are but all they do is talk to their coworkers.

    so lets disinfect things all the time and stay apart. dont share computers at work.

    i think these things would help much more than rags on our faces.
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  • From hollowone@VERT/AMIGAC to HusTler on Mon Sep 28 20:33:00 2020
    Forget about what the CDC, Feds, whoever say. What do YOU think. Does
    a mask help in preventing the spread of germs?

    For sure helps to minimize the impact of all kinds of flu, especially considering people sneezing and couching without even considering to shut their mouth with their own hands.

    If it can help eliminate the pandemic, I'm not so sure if this is our ultimate solution. Think by example, in elevator at my office building I entered it first at -1 from the parking lot. At ground level 2 persons joined and at 1 two more joined. comfy capacity 6 persons (under normal circumstances). One person there had a mask, but point is different, do you think even if all had masks and one had COVID, would other be really saved, considering all that touching and exposure?

    I doubt it. That's why I earlier said that social distancing is much more important than masks and rather leaving in your own neighbourhood as much as possible and monitor it than travel without control and awareness of the risks you may spread or bring back home.

    /h1

    /h1



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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Oct 6 13:47:40 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to DaiTengu on Fri Sep 25 2020 04:35 pm

    I honestly can't tell if this is satire or not. You ticked every
    single catchphrase box in the "COVID-19 conspiracy theorist nutjob"
    category.

    Did he cover the "Bill Gates wants to inject you with a vaccine
    containing nano-tech" angle?

    I think that was implied if you read between the lines. ;)

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Hakuchi on Tue Oct 6 13:52:31 2020
    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: Hakuchi to DaiTengu on Sun Sep 27 2020 09:06 pm

    I honestly can't tell if this is satire or not. You ticked every
    single catchphrase box in the "COVID-19 conspiracy theorist nutjob"
    category.

    Satire or not. Only satire is the fact that people like you refuse to see what is in front of their very eyes ... Unfortunately there are so many like you. It's rather distrubing to watch how people are willingly handing over their freedoms and rights.

    You assume a lot. I stay home, and wear a mask not because I'm told to, but because it's the right thing to do according to scientific evidence.


    But if you believe the earth is flat, we didn't land on the moon, Bush did 9/11, Qanon, Pizzagate, Chemtrails, or that 5G is dangerous, there's really no hope for you.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Jon Justvig@VERT/STEPPING to DaiTengu on Tue Oct 6 17:16:00 2020
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    Re: Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to DaiTengu on Fri Sep 25 2020 04:35 pm

    I honestly can't tell if this is satire or not. You ticked every
    single catchphrase box in the "COVID-19 conspiracy theorist nutjob"
    category.

    Did he cover the "Bill Gates wants to inject you with a vaccine
    containing nano-tech" angle?

    I think that was implied if you read between the lines. ;)

    As in, you're #1 :)

    Sincerely,
    Jon Justvig

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  • From Surkey@VERT/IXWORX to HusTler on Fri Oct 9 04:10:39 2020
    Re: Corona-WTF??
    By: HusTler to All on Sat Sep 12 2020 08:14:00

    I understand the frustration, it gets dull and sometimes even brings mine and everybody's hope down to a depressing simmer, but it should always be the concern of the public to keep healthy discussion going in order to make sure the latest info is brought to as many people as possible, and, at the end of the day, its hard to get people to stop talking about things, especialy if so many people have been talking about it for months on end.

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