• the people with signs come out and bother

    From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Sat Sep 19 09:20:00 2020
    Hello MRO!

    ** On Saturday 19.09.20 - 00:25, mro wrote to Dennisk:

    yep, i live in milwaukee,wi and when it's warm, the people
    with signs come out and bother the cars. i normally tell
    them to suck some dicks. everyone can make money doing that.

    The former or the latter? You have experience? :D


    anyways, i've seen them fuck off on their phones AND smoke
    cigarettes. cigs are so expensive. when i stopped smoking
    it was about 3.50 a pack

    Cheaper cigs can be obtained from the shops on native
    reserves.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Sat Sep 19 10:24:18 2020
    Re: the people with signs come out and bother
    By: Ogg to All on Sat Sep 19 2020 09:20 am

    Hello MRO!

    ** On Saturday 19.09.20 - 00:25, mro wrote to Dennisk:

    yep, i live in milwaukee,wi and when it's warm, the people
    with signs come out and bother the cars. i normally tell
    them to suck some dicks. everyone can make money doing that.

    The former or the latter? You have experience? :D

    yeah that's why i'm a millionaire.

    Cheaper cigs can be obtained from the shops on native
    reserves.

    i dont think they're that much cheaper , atleast at my casino. i havent been there in a long time because of covid and it being invite only or reservation only later on.

    it's a disgusting habit anyways.
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  • From Hatton@VERT/THRCORN to Ogg on Sat Sep 19 12:09:00 2020
    Cheaper cigs can be obtained from the shops on native
    reserves.

    Cigarette prices are state-subjective. Here in NY if you go to buy a
    pack from a local store you're paying between $8 and $10 per pack.

    If you can get to a native reservation they're as checap as $15 a carton.
    Thing is, if you're not close to a res and rely on public transit to
    move around there's a good chace you'll never make it to one.

    I quit a few years ago but my wife still smokes... and we live near
    a res.

    Hatton


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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Hatton on Sat Sep 19 20:12:43 2020
    Re: the people with signs com
    By: Hatton to Ogg on Sat Sep 19 2020 12:09 pm

    Cheaper cigs can be obtained from the shops on native
    reserves.

    Cigarette prices are state-subjective. Here in NY if you go to buy a
    pack from a local store you're paying between $8 and $10 per pack.

    If you can get to a native reservation they're as checap as $15 a carton.

    Not in New York. Maybe in Oklahoma but you'll never see a carton of cigarettes on any reservation in NY for 15 bucks.

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  • From Hatton@VERT/THRCORN to HusTler on Sun Sep 20 02:32:20 2020
    Re: the people with signs com
    By: HusTler to Hatton on Sat Sep 19 2020 08:12 pm

    If you can get to a native reservation they're as checap as $15 a
    carton.

    Not in New York. Maybe in Oklahoma but you'll never see a carton of cigarettes on any reservation in NY for 15 bucks.

    I'm 15 minutes from the Tuscarora rez, they sell several native-made brands and occasionally you will see the cheapest of them on sale for $15. Most are between $20 and $30 per carton.

    I didn't specify QUALITY, just price ;)

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Hatton on Sun Sep 20 08:54:37 2020
    Re: the people with signs com
    By: Hatton to HusTler on Sun Sep 20 2020 02:32 am

    I'm 15 minutes from the Tuscarora rez, they sell several native-made brands occasionally you will see the cheapest of them on sale for $15. Most are between $20 and $30 per carton.

    Where is Tuscarora rez? That's in NY? I used to go to the Shinicock rez on Long Island. It's in duh..Shinicock. If memory serves me right the cheapest carton was Smokin Joe's (Indian Cigs) for $20 bucks.I'd rather smoke rolled up ragweed. How people continue to smoke at 10 bucks a pack really blows my mind. That's a $400 per month nut. Even if you buy cheap at a rez it's still $300 per month. And what's up with vaping? How does one justify those things? Must be nice to be able "burn" money like that. ;-)

    HusTler
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  • From Hatton@VERT/THRCORN to HusTler on Sun Sep 20 17:53:18 2020
    Re: the people with signs com
    By: HusTler to Hatton on Sun Sep 20 2020 08:54 am

    Where is Tuscarora rez? That's in NY?

    Niagara Falls - I'm right on Lake Ontario, 40 miles north of Buffalo.

    And what's up with vaping? How does
    one justify those things? Must be nice to be able "burn" money like that. ;-)

    It's the "cooler" way to get nicotine, supposedly safer and if you're refilling rather than buying tossables, it can be cheaper.

    Hatton

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Hatton on Sun Sep 20 19:20:32 2020
    Re: the people with signs com
    By: Hatton to HusTler on Sun Sep 20 2020 05:53 pm

    Where is Tuscarora rez? That's in NY?

    Niagara Falls - I'm right on Lake Ontario, 40 miles north of Buffalo.


    Oh.. you didn't say you lived with the natives ;-) lol

    HusTler
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  • From Hatton@VERT/THRCORN to HusTler on Mon Sep 21 01:41:50 2020
    Re: the people with signs com
    By: HusTler to Hatton on Sun Sep 20 2020 07:20 pm

    Oh.. you didn't say you lived with the natives ;-) lol

    HAH thanks to the government layers here, I'm under State, County, Town and Village jurisdictions.

    I call it the quadriplegic form of government.

    Hatton

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Hatton on Mon Sep 21 19:14:00 2020
    On 09-20-20 17:53, Hatton wrote to HusTler <=-

    It's the "cooler" way to get nicotine, supposedly safer and if you're refilling rather than buying tossables, it can be cheaper.

    Can be? Over here, vaping is a fraction of the cost of cigarettes - now smoking here is like lighting your money up. The up front costs of the hardware and initial joice, are covered within the first 2 weeks of switching.

    I'm glad hubby switched to vaping years ago, literally saved thousands, probably over $10k by now. And no secondhand smoke or lingering small either.


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  • From Hatton@VERT/THRCORN to Vk3jed on Mon Sep 21 11:08:58 2020
    Re: Re: the people with signs com
    By: Vk3jed to Hatton on Mon Sep 21 2020 07:14 pm

    Can be? Over here, vaping is a fraction of the cost of cigarettes - now smoking here is like lighting your money up. The up front costs of the hardware and initial joice, are covered within the first 2 weeks of switching.

    Yeah, my "can be" is in reference to the abundance of single use, non-refillable devices. They're less expensive on a per-unit basis but are much easier to over-use and then toss.

    I used to smoke cigarettes and the occasionally (tobacco) pipe, tried vaping in a few iterations and after many attempts have quit.

    Hatton

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Hatton on Mon Sep 21 14:40:00 2020
    Re: Re: the people with signs
    By: Hatton to Vk3jed on Mon Sep 21 2020 11:08 am

    Re: Re: the people with signs com
    By: Vk3jed to Hatton on Mon Sep 21 2020 07:14 pm

    Can be? Over here, vaping is a fraction of the cost of cigarettes - now smoking here is like lighting your money up. The up front costs of the hardware and initial joice, are covered within the first 2 weeks of switching.

    Yeah, my "can be" is in reference to the abundance of single use, non-refill

    I used to smoke cigarettes and the occasionally (tobacco) pipe, tried vaping

    Hatton

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    One winter I got bronchitis really bad. Bad enough I had trouble lighting a cigarette. I decided at that moment this was my opportunity to quit smking cold turkey, and within two weeks I shook the nicotine addiction. It took
    much longer to undo all the psychological habits, such as physical act of smoking or fill the empty spot of doing something with your hands when
    sitting and reading. If I felt stressed, I'd want a smoke, but it was not because of a soothing effect or chemical dependency. it was the coping mechanism of stepping away and lighting up.

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  • From Hatton@VERT/THRCORN to Moondog on Tue Sep 22 00:47:19 2020
    Re: Re: the people with signs
    By: Moondog to Hatton on Mon Sep 21 2020 02:40 pm

    If I felt stressed, I'd want a smoke, but it was
    not because of a soothing effect or chemical dependency. it was the coping mechanism of stepping away and lighting up.

    Yup, I have Extra gum (polar ice) for those moments.

    And at the moment I'm chewing a lot (not at once) because I have a 15 year old son stuck in puberty.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Mon Sep 21 20:24:02 2020
    Re: Re: the people with signs
    By: Moondog to Hatton on Mon Sep 21 2020 02:40 pm

    smking cold turkey, and within two weeks I shook the nicotine addiction. It took much longer to undo all the psychological habits, such as physical act of smoking or fill the empty spot of doing something with your hands when sitting and reading. If I felt stressed, I'd want a smoke, but it was not because of a soothing effect or chemical dependency. it was the coping mechanism of stepping away and lighting up.


    smoking is weird because it really has roots in many things. your friends all smoke, you like the feeling of the nicotine, you like the smell, you like holding the cig. all of this plays into it.
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  • From Underminer@VERT/UNDRMINE to Moondog on Mon Sep 21 19:26:10 2020
    Re: Re: the people with signs
    By: Moondog to Hatton on Mon Sep 21 2020 02:40 pm

    One winter I got bronchitis really bad. Bad enough I had trouble lighting a cigarette. I decided at that moment this was my opportunity to quit smking cold turkey, and within two weeks I shook the nicotine addiction.

    For me it was when I was working a crappy in-between job shortly after the 2008 crash and found myself one day being able to afford either Coffee or a pack of Cigarettes, but not both. I decided having access to coffee for the 3 days until payday was more important to staying sane in the crazy environment than having smokes. By the time that payday came around I was over the hump. I ended up picking the habbit back up for a spell after the death of my father, and after my ex's affair, but both those times it was far easier to put it down afterwards knowing what to expect. And yes, the psychological habbits are the biggest thing - even now I occasionally feel like I should have one hanging out of my mouth when doing some task I haven't done much in the decade since, and I'm obviously WELL past any chemical dependency.
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Hatton on Tue Sep 22 20:10:00 2020
    On 09-21-20 11:08, Hatton wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Yeah, my "can be" is in reference to the abundance of single use, non-refillable devices. They're less expensive on a per-unit basis but
    are much easier to over-use and then toss.

    Ahh, well I did do a bit of reading up on e-cigs during hubby's switch to them, and the articles were definitely more in favour of going for the proper refillable units. And they are dirt cheap to run. The battery (most expensive part) will last for a year or two at a minimum. Juice is cheap, coils have to be regularly replaced, but they ar also cheap at around $15 for a pack of 5.

    I used to smoke cigarettes and the occasionally (tobacco) pipe, tried vaping in a few iterations and after many attempts have quit.

    So, did you eventually quit? I went cold turkey, with the assistance of patches in 1999, never touched cigarettes again. :)

    Hatton

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    Indeed. :D


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  • From Hatton@VERT/THRCORN to Vk3jed on Tue Sep 22 14:13:13 2020
    Re: Re: the people with signs com
    By: Vk3jed to Hatton on Tue Sep 22 2020 08:10 pm

    So, did you eventually quit? I went cold turkey, with the assistance of patches in 1999, never touched cigarettes again. :)

    Yeah, I haven't had nicotine for about 2 years now. There are some days that are tough, especially right now. Between work and a teenage boy...

    Hatton

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Moondog on Tue Sep 22 08:35:45 2020
    Re: Re: the people with signs
    By: Moondog to Hatton on Mon Sep 21 2020 02:40 pm

    One winter I got bronchitis really bad. Bad enough I had trouble lighting a cigarette. I decided at that moment this was my opportunity to quit smking cold turkey, and within two weeks I shook the nicotine addiction.

    That's basically the same way my dad quit. Years ago, he said he got a bad cold and couldn't smoke and decided to just stop smoking.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Tue Sep 22 08:38:27 2020
    Re: Re: the people with signs
    By: MRO to Moondog on Mon Sep 21 2020 08:24 pm

    smoking is weird because it really has roots in many things. your friends all smoke, you like the feeling of the nicotine, you like the smell, you like holding the cig. all of this plays into it.

    I've known people who smoke (much of my family smokes or used to smoke), but almost everyone I know who smokes has said it's a bad idea. So I never started smoking and never really wanted to. Aside from the bad health effects, I don't like the smell, and I don't know how someone would actually like it..

    Nightfox

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Hatton on Wed Sep 23 19:55:00 2020
    On 09-22-20 14:13, Hatton wrote to Vk3jed <=-

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    By: Vk3jed to Hatton on Tue Sep 22 2020 08:10 pm

    So, did you eventually quit? I went cold turkey, with the assistance of patches in 1999, never touched cigarettes again. :)

    Yeah, I haven't had nicotine for about 2 years now. There are some
    days that are tough, especially right now. Between work and a teenage boy...

    I'm somewhere around 21.5 years now. :)


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