• homeless people.. with a newer phone

    From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Sat Sep 19 09:21:00 2020
    Hello Dennisk!

    ** On Saturday 19.09.20 - 13:36, dennisk wrote to Andeddu:

    Honest to God, I've seen homeless people begging for money
    on the street with a newer phone than the one I use.

    Some communities have programmes to provide phones for the
    homeless.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Sat Sep 19 10:24:52 2020
    Re: homeless people.. with a newer phone
    By: Ogg to All on Sat Sep 19 2020 09:21 am

    Hello Dennisk!

    ** On Saturday 19.09.20 - 13:36, dennisk wrote to Andeddu:

    Honest to God, I've seen homeless people begging for money
    on the street with a newer phone than the one I use.

    Some communities have programmes to provide phones for the
    homeless.


    yeah but they arent brand new iphones [i hope]
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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Ogg on Sat Sep 19 19:56:17 2020
    Re: homeless people.. with a newer phone
    By: Ogg to All on Sat Sep 19 2020 09:21 am

    Honest to God, I've seen homeless people begging for money
    on the street with a newer phone than the one I use.


    Yep.. They're called "Obama Phones" paid for by Uncle Sam for those in need. They get a free smart phone plus 350 mins per month and 3 Gigs of Data. Ain't that a bitch?

    HusTler
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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to Ogg on Sun Sep 20 10:50:00 2020
    Ogg wrote to All <=-

    Hello Dennisk!

    ** On Saturday 19.09.20 - 13:36, dennisk wrote to Andeddu:

    Honest to God, I've seen homeless people begging for money
    on the street with a newer phone than the one I use.

    Some communities have programmes to provide phones for the
    homeless.

    Interesting. Never heard of that but it does explain it. Phones like mine are pretty non-existant now. I wonder if in the future, like "retro-computers", they will seek a pretty penny being "vintage" and "retro".


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  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to Dennisk on Sat Sep 19 21:25:00 2020
    Hello Dennisk!

    ** On Sunday 20.09.20 - 11:50, dennisk wrote to Ogg:

    ...Phones like mine are pretty non-existant now. I wonder
    if in the future, like "retro-computers", they will seek a
    pretty penny being "vintage" and "retro".

    I really doubt that older phones will appeal to anyone except
    a museum. An older phone may not get the range or have the
    longer battery life of newer tech. Battery prices for older
    models of anything (especially old laptops) are exorbitant

    The old phones may be cool to look at, but horrid to use.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Sat Sep 19 20:43:22 2020
    Re: homeless people.. with a newer phone
    By: HusTler to Ogg on Sat Sep 19 2020 07:56 pm

    Re: homeless people.. with a newer phone
    By: Ogg to All on Sat Sep 19 2020 09:21 am

    Honest to God, I've seen homeless people begging for money
    on the street with a newer phone than the one I use.


    Yep.. They're called "Obama Phones" paid for by Uncle Sam for those in need. They get a free smart phone plus 350 mins per month and 3 Gigs of Data. Ain't that a bitch?


    it didnt start with obama.
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  • From Hatton@VERT/THRCORN to MRO on Sun Sep 20 03:18:00 2020
    Re: homeless people.. with a newer phone
    By: MRO to HusTler on Sat Sep 19 2020 08:43 pm

    Yep.. They're called "Obama Phones" paid for by Uncle Sam for those
    in need. They get a free smart phone plus 350 mins per month and 3
    Gigs of Data. Ain't that a bitch?

    it didnt start with obama.

    You're right, it didn't. The money for the program comes from the Universal Service Fund fee that every person pays on their phone bills. This started in the 1930's. Reagan's administration was the first to install landline phones using this money in the 80's.

    The Obama administration was the first to say that cellular service was the natural progression of this can bear his name legitimately. Given that at least one provider of this service uses the domain Obamaphone.com I think it's fair to say the monicker sticks.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Hatton on Sun Sep 20 01:47:12 2020
    Re: homeless people.. with a newer phone
    By: Hatton to MRO on Sun Sep 20 2020 03:18 am

    You're right, it didn't. The money for the program comes from the Universal Service Fund fee that every person pays on their phone bills. This started in the 1930's. Reagan's administration was the first to install landline phones using this money in the 80's.

    The Obama administration was the first to say that cellular service was the natural progression of this can bear his name legitimately. Given that at least one provider of this service uses the domain Obamaphone.com I think it's fair to say the monicker sticks.



    you actually took the time to look it up on a website and plagerize it here.
    i see where you got it from.
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  • From Weatherman@VERT/TLCBBS to HusTler on Sun Sep 20 02:23:00 2020
    HusTler wrote to Ogg <=-


    Honest to God, I've seen homeless people begging for money
    on the street with a newer phone than the one I use.


    Yep.. They're called "Obama Phones" paid for by Uncle Sam for those
    in need. They get a free smart phone plus 350 mins per month and 3 Gigs
    of Data. Ain't that a bitch?

    Actually the program was started in the 1980s by Ronald Reagan as the lifeline program. The intent was to ensure that low income families would be able to have a land-line telephone in their house for use in case of an emergency such as a house fire or a medical situation.

    I'm going by memory here, so I could very well be wrong here, but I believe that during the Bush administration this program was expanded to include cellular phone service, as the use of landline phones was beginning to decline.

    Now I'm by now means a fan of Obama or his administration, but if we're gong to combat the effects of liberalism gone wild, we certainly need to do it from the foundation of verifiable and undeniable fact.

    Regards,


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Ogg on Sun Sep 20 20:44:00 2020
    On 09-19-20 21:25, Ogg wrote to Dennisk <=-

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    Hello Dennisk!

    ** On Sunday 20.09.20 - 11:50, dennisk wrote to Ogg:

    ...Phones like mine are pretty non-existant now. I wonder
    if in the future, like "retro-computers", they will seek a
    pretty penny being "vintage" and "retro".

    I really doubt that older phones will appeal to anyone except
    a museum. An older phone may not get the range or have the
    longer battery life of newer tech. Battery prices for older
    models of anything (especially old laptops) are exorbitant

    And what will they work on? My first mobile (an Ericsson GA628) won't even work on today's networks here, because the 2G that it used was switched off years ago.

    You'd have to setup a private 2G network just ro run such a phone on, and that has legality issues. Technically, it is feasible with today's SDR hardware and software.


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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Dennisk on Sun Sep 20 08:14:15 2020
    Re: homeless people.. with a
    By: Dennisk to Ogg on Sun Sep 20 2020 10:50 am

    Honest to God, I've seen homeless people begging for money
    on the street with a newer phone than the one I use.

    Some communities have programmes to provide phones for the
    homeless.

    Interesting. Never heard of that but it does explain it. Phones like mine ar pretty non-existant now. I wonder if in the future, like "retro-computers", they will seek a pretty penny being "vintage" and "retro".

    Oh no. Nothing but the best for the homeless. No old phones, donated phones.

    HusTler
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  • From Hatton@VERT/THRCORN to MRO on Sun Sep 20 12:31:12 2020
    Re: homeless people.. with a newer phone
    By: MRO to Hatton on Sun Sep 20 2020 01:47 am

    you actually took the time to look it up on a website and plagerize it here. i see where you got it from.

    Actually I had to refresh my memory since I had a very similar conversation many years ago about the subject.

    Also, this isn't a school assignment, references aren't required and if I wanted to copy paste verbatim I can... even though I didn't.

    I paraphrased :P

    Hatton

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  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Sun Sep 20 10:05:00 2020
    Hello HusTler!

    ** On Sunday 20.09.20 - 08:14, hustler wrote to Dennisk:

    Honest to God, I've seen homeless people begging for
    money on the street with a newer phone than the one I
    use.

    Some communities have programmes to provide phones for
    the homeless.

    Interesting. Never heard of that but it does explain it.
    Phones like mine ar pretty non-existant now. I wonder if
    in the future, like "retro-computers", they will seek a
    pretty penny being "vintage" and "retro".

    Oh no. Nothing but the best for the homeless. No old
    phones, donated phones.

    Maybe the doners offer their last year's model. That could
    explain why some homeless have better phones! :)

    Maybe there are even programmes that offer bulk phone
    purchases at a discount which are then handed out.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Hatton on Sun Sep 20 10:55:50 2020
    Re: homeless people.. with a newer phone
    By: Hatton to MRO on Sun Sep 20 2020 12:31 pm

    Re: homeless people.. with a newer phone
    By: MRO to Hatton on Sun Sep 20 2020 01:47 am

    you actually took the time to look it up on a website and plagerize
    it here. i see where you got it from.

    Actually I had to refresh my memory since I had a very similar conversation many years ago about the subject.

    Also, this isn't a school assignment, references aren't required and if I wanted to copy paste verbatim I can... even though I didn't.

    I paraphrased :P

    Hatton

    i was just trying to nail down when this fucking happened. it ended up being quite difficult and i dont think you're telling the truth.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Ogg on Sun Sep 20 10:58:54 2020
    Re: Re: homeless people.. with a
    By: Ogg to All on Sun Sep 20 2020 10:05 am

    in the future, like "retro-computers", they will seek a
    pretty penny being "vintage" and "retro".

    Oh no. Nothing but the best for the homeless. No old
    phones, donated phones.

    Maybe the doners offer their last year's model. That could
    explain why some homeless have better phones! :)

    Maybe there are even programmes that offer bulk phone
    purchases at a discount which are then handed out.


    a kid i worked with at a side job had an obama phone. it was illegally given to him but he certainly needed it. him and his brother were adopted by an older couple and the man died and the woman was in a horrible financial situation so they were working to support her and keep the house.

    anyways, i've seen the phone that he had. it was a smart phone but really crappy and only good for the basics. you'd have to use wifi to be able to do any fucking around on it really.

    so it was a basic phone and not flashy so i got no problem with that. it's a phone to get a call on when you have a job interview.
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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Weatherman on Sun Sep 20 09:45:59 2020
    Re: homeless people.. with a
    By: Weatherman to HusTler on Sun Sep 20 2020 02:23 am

    Honest to God, I've seen homeless people begging for money
    on the street with a newer phone than the one I use.


    Yep.. They're called "Obama Phones" paid for by Uncle Sam for those

    Actually the program was started in the 1980s by Ronald Reagan as the lifeli program. The intent was to ensure that low income families would be able to

    I have no idea who started the phones and could care less. Here in New York they call them "Obama Phones" (The free cell phones). Probably because Obama was black so the black population feels they got free cell phones because of President Obama. That's just an assumption on my part. I live in a primarly impoversed primarily black neighborhood. They call the free phones "Obama Phones" !! Get over it.

    HusTler
    havens.synchro.net:23

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  • From Hatton@VERT/THRCORN to MRO on Sun Sep 20 17:50:41 2020
    Re: homeless people.. with a newer phone
    By: MRO to Hatton on Sun Sep 20 2020 10:55 am

    i was just trying to nail down when this fucking happened. it ended up being quite difficult and i dont think you're telling the truth. ---

    Allow me to provide my sources this time then. Note that this grouping of documents follows the creation of the USF from 1934 (FDR) through to 2016 (Obama), with dated stops at Reagan (1985) and Clinton (1996).

    The TL;DR is that the timeline is the same as I posted before with one other addition for detail.

    Hatton

    From https://www.fcc.gov/general/universal-service
    Universal service is the principle that all Americans should have access to communications services. Universal service is also the name of a fund and the category of FCC programs and policies to implement this principle. Universal service is a cornerstone of the law that established the FCC, the Communications Act of 1934. Since that time, universal service policies have helped make telephone service ubiquitous, even in remote rural areas. Today, the FCC recognizes high-speed Internet as the 21st Century.

    From https://www.ntia.doc.gov/legacy/opadhome/overview.htm
    When President Clinton signed the Telecommunications Act of 1996 ("the Act" or "the 1996 Act" )(1) into law on February 8, 1996, it represented the beginning of a new era in telecommunications regulation in the United States. As the most extensive and significant change in the basic U.S. law governing communications since the Communications Act of 1934 ("the 1934 Act"),(2) the new Act's passage represented a bipartisan consensus that advances in technology, as well as the success of regulatory models based on competition rather than monopoly, called for major changes in the regulation of telecommunications.

    From https://www.fcc.gov/general/lifeline-program-low-income-consumers
    Since 1985, the Lifeline program has provided a discount on phone service for qualifying low-income consumers to ensure that all Americans have the opportunities and security that phone service brings, including being able to connect to jobs, family and emergency services. Lifeline is part of the Universal Service Fund. The Lifeline program is available to eligible low-income consumers in every state, territory, commonwealth, and on Tribal lands.

    ...
    On March 31, 2016, the Commission adopted a comprehensive reform and modernization of the Lifeline program. In the 2016 Lifeline Modernization Order, the Commission included broadband as a support service in the Lifeline program. The Commission also set out minimum service standards for Lifeline-supported services to ensure maximum value for the universal service dollar, and established a National Eligibility Verifier to make independent subscriber eligibility determinations.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ogg on Sun Sep 20 08:06:00 2020
    Ogg wrote to All <=-

    Honest to God, I've seen homeless people begging for money
    on the street with a newer phone than the one I use.

    Some communities have programmes to provide phones for the
    homeless.

    And having a phone is critical to getting off the streets. See a
    payphone recently? They're all gone.




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to MRO on Sun Sep 20 08:07:00 2020
    MRO wrote to Ogg <=-

    Some communities have programmes to provide phones for the
    homeless.

    yeah but they arent brand new iphones [i hope]

    No, I've read about them - they're typically off-brand Android phones
    with limited memory and storage.




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ogg on Sun Sep 20 08:08:00 2020
    Ogg wrote to Dennisk <=-

    I really doubt that older phones will appeal to anyone except
    a museum. An older phone may not get the range or have the
    longer battery life of newer tech.

    With the GSM carriers, they've been phasing out the older networks -
    2G is already dead, 3G is going away soon. Old phone won't work
    anymore, if I understand correctly.





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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Hatton on Sun Sep 20 13:46:16 2020
    Re: homeless people.. with a newer phone
    By: Hatton to MRO on Sun Sep 20 2020 05:50 pm

    Re: homeless people.. with a newer phone
    By: MRO to Hatton on Sun Sep 20 2020 10:55 am

    i was just trying to nail down when this fucking happened. it ended
    up being quite difficult and i dont think you're telling the truth.
    ---

    Allow me to provide my sources this time then. Note that this grouping of documents follows the creation of the USF from 1934 (FDR) through to 2016


    oh sorry i was multitasking and i thought you were the guy talking about lord.

    i dont care about the phone thing that reagan started.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Sep 20 13:49:34 2020
    Re: Re: homeless people.. with a newer phone
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Ogg on Sun Sep 20 2020 08:06 am

    Ogg wrote to All <=-

    Honest to God, I've seen homeless people begging for money
    on the street with a newer phone than the one I use.

    Some communities have programmes to provide phones for the
    homeless.

    And having a phone is critical to getting off the streets. See a
    payphone recently? They're all gone.



    well i'm not sure if having a phone will get people off the streets. i'd say their own transportation would be a huge help. but i dont know, some people just cant function in society.

    i've seen people given everything and then just lose it again.
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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Ogg on Sun Sep 20 13:29:50 2020
    Re: Re: homeless people.. with a
    By: Ogg to All on Sun Sep 20 2020 10:05 am

    Honest to God, I've seen homeless people begging for
    money on the street with a newer phone than the one I
    use.

    Maybe the doners offer their last year's model. That could
    explain why some homeless have better phones! :)

    Maybe there are even programmes that offer bulk phone
    purchases at a discount which are then handed out.

    I'm think they give out refurbished phones that come off contracts or turned in for newer phones. There not top of the line phones. There phones that most people don't want any more. A lot of people want the latest and greatest. ;-)

    HusTler
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  • From Havok@VERT/GMBBS to HusTler on Sun Sep 20 19:43:56 2020
    Re: homeless people.. with a newer phone
    By: HusTler to Ogg on Sat Sep 19 2020 07:56 pm


    Yep.. They're called "Obama Phones" paid for by Uncle Sam for those in need. They get a free smart phone plus 350 mins per month and 3 Gigs of Data. Ain't that a bitch?

    I agree with you but!

    That is just what he wanted your and my reply to be, anger and devision.

    He was and is very good seperating races.




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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 21 19:03:00 2020
    On 09-20-20 08:06, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Ogg <=-

    And having a phone is critical to getting off the streets. See a
    payphone recently? They're all gone.

    True (though I actually know a couple of payphone sites in town! :) ).


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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 21 19:04:00 2020
    On 09-20-20 08:08, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Ogg <=-

    With the GSM carriers, they've been phasing out the older networks -
    2G is already dead, 3G is going away soon. Old phone won't work
    anymore, if I understand correctly.

    That's certainly true here.


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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to Ogg on Mon Sep 21 21:23:00 2020
    Ogg wrote to Dennisk <=-

    Hello Dennisk!

    ** On Sunday 20.09.20 - 11:50, dennisk wrote to Ogg:

    ...Phones like mine are pretty non-existant now. I wonder
    if in the future, like "retro-computers", they will seek a
    pretty penny being "vintage" and "retro".

    I really doubt that older phones will appeal to anyone except
    a museum. An older phone may not get the range or have the
    longer battery life of newer tech. Battery prices for older
    models of anything (especially old laptops) are exorbitant

    The old phones may be cool to look at, but horrid to use.

    My battery lasts for days, and the replacement cost $15 and was very easy to install. Just pop the back cover and put the new battery in.

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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to HusTler on Mon Sep 21 21:45:00 2020
    HusTler wrote to Ogg <=-

    Re: homeless people.. with a newer phone
    By: Ogg to All on Sat Sep 19 2020 09:21 am

    Honest to God, I've seen homeless people begging for money
    on the street with a newer phone than the one I use.


    Yep.. They're called "Obama Phones" paid for by Uncle Sam for those
    in need. They get a free smart phone plus 350 mins per month and 3 Gigs
    of Data. Ain't that a bitch?

    Not these ones. I live in Melbourne, Australia.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 21 08:52:21 2020
    Re: Re: homeless people.. with a newer phone
    By: Vk3jed to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 21 2020 07:03 pm

    And having a phone is critical to getting off the streets. See a
    payphone recently? They're all gone.

    Funny you mention that. My car broke down in the supermarket parking lot. Not one payphone could be found anywhere. I finally walked about a mile and found a bar that had one. That was 10 years ago. That bar is gone now so it's probably even harder to find a pay phone now. I hate having to ask store owners to use their phone. They look at you like you're a homeless person.

    HusTler
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  • From hollowone@VERT/AMIGAC to HusTler on Mon Sep 21 21:18:00 2020
    Funny you mention that. My car broke down in the supermarket parking lot. Not one payphone could be found anywhere. I finally walked about a mile and found a bar that had one. That was 10 years ago. That bar is
    gone now so it's probably even harder to find a pay phone now. I hate having to ask store owners to use their phone. They look at you like you're a homeless person.

    I get your point. Can't imagine myself without a phone, but ocassionally I find myself with a dead battery state while forgetting about it for longer.

    I imagine if I had a problem and a phone was dead then it's the same shame to ask all around.

    This world of us today is more about me then us.. everybody must think about himself much more than in the past.. and this is a spiral hard to escape.

    /h1



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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dennisk on Mon Sep 21 14:48:00 2020
    Re: Re: homeless people.. wit
    By: Dennisk to Ogg on Mon Sep 21 2020 09:23 pm

    Ogg wrote to Dennisk <=-

    Hello Dennisk!

    ** On Sunday 20.09.20 - 11:50, dennisk wrote to Ogg:

    ...Phones like mine are pretty non-existant now. I wonder
    if in the future, like "retro-computers", they will seek a
    pretty penny being "vintage" and "retro".

    I really doubt that older phones will appeal to anyone except
    a museum. An older phone may not get the range or have the
    longer battery life of newer tech. Battery prices for older
    models of anything (especially old laptops) are exorbitant

    The old phones may be cool to look at, but horrid to use.

    My battery lasts for days, and the replacement cost $15 and was very easy to install. Just pop the back cover and put the new battery in.

    ... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!

    In order to keep my work phone for work purposes only, my backup phone is a
    pay as you go Tracfone "dumb" phone. People get pissed at me because all it does is take pictures, texts, and makes phone calls. I can browse with it,
    but it's way too small a screen to be useful. That's fine, because I decided at a point in time years ago i would not be one of those people I point at
    and laugh about being tethered to their phones.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to HusTler on Mon Sep 21 15:13:00 2020
    Re: Re: homeless people.. wit
    By: HusTler to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 21 2020 08:52 am

    Re: Re: homeless people.. with a newer phone
    By: Vk3jed to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 21 2020 07:03 pm

    And having a phone is critical to getting off the streets. See a payphone recently? They're all gone.

    Funny you mention that. My car broke down in the supermarket parking lot. find a pay phone now. I hate having to ask store owners to use their phone.

    HusTler
    havens.synchro.net:23

    Payphones exist wherever there are large quantities of migrant workers or immigrants with strong ties to their families back home. International rates on a calling card are cheaper than they are on cell plans. Pay phones pay fo r the space they take up if they average three calls a day or 100 calls a month. Pay phones also exist in places where cell coverage is really spotty, or very few carriers cover an area. In the Upper Penninsula of Michigan it
    is common to see pay phones by truck stops and gas station / road houses.

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  • From paulie420@VERT/BEERS20 to HusTler on Mon Sep 21 15:56:00 2020
    On 21 Sep 2020, HusTler said the following...

    Re: Re: homeless people.. with a newer phone
    By: Vk3jed to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 21 2020 07:03 pm

    And having a phone is critical to getting off the streets. See a payphone recently? They're all gone.

    Funny you mention that. My car broke down in the supermarket parking lot. Not one payphone could be found anywhere. I finally walked about a HusTler
    havens.synchro.net:23

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    I quoted the whole message; it seems like with your posts, hustler, I never
    get the whole thing. See up there, 'I finally walked about a'........ that
    was the end on my end. I must still have SOME issue with this QWK network. :/
    I don't think its your issue... just trying to track down MY issue.



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  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to Dennisk on Mon Sep 21 20:15:00 2020
    Hello Dennisk!

    ** On Monday 21.09.20 - 22:23, dennisk wrote to Ogg:

    The old phones may be cool to look at, but horrid to use.

    My battery lasts for days, and the replacement cost $15
    and was very easy to install. Just pop the back cover and
    put the new battery in.

    My adopted Blackberry Q10 is pretty old by some phone
    standards, but it has room to support the better 4G stuff for
    while longer. Fine with me. And.. it has the user
    replaceable battery feature too. I have 3 that cycle from [1]
    one on charge, [2] one fully charged and waiting, and [3] one
    in the phone.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to hollowone on Mon Sep 21 21:22:52 2020
    Re: Re: homeless people.. wit
    By: hollowone to HusTler on Mon Sep 21 2020 09:18 pm

    Funny you mention that. My car broke down in the supermarket parking

    I get your point. Can't imagine myself without a phone, but ocassionally I f myself with a dead battery state while forgetting about it for longer.

    I imagine if I had a problem and a phone was dead then it's the same shame t ask all around.

    It's not 1973 anymore Martha. People ain't friendly anymore. Nodody wants to lend a hand anymore. Not unless there's something in it for them anyway. OH they might let you use their cell phone maybe. I've been stuck on the side of a road at night and lost count of how many cars drove by. Even when a cop shows up they won't help. They'll just call someone that will charge you 100 bucks or more just for a jump or a tow maybe change a tire. Back in the day I never paid for a jump. (A "jump" is to boost your battery with jumper cables)
    I just had to ask somone. I always had jumper cables in my trunk. Today I hear "What's a jumper cable?" Oh NO I don't want you to ruin my car. OH BOY.

    HusTler
    havens.synchro.net:23

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Mon Sep 21 20:26:07 2020
    Re: Re: homeless people.. wit
    By: Moondog to HusTler on Mon Sep 21 2020 03:13 pm

    immigrants with strong ties to their families back home. International rates on a calling card are cheaper than they are on cell plans. Pay phones pay fo r the space they take up if they average three calls a day or 100 calls a month. Pay phones also exist in places where cell coverage is really spotty, or very few carriers cover an area. In the Upper Penninsula of Michigan it is common to see pay phones by truck stops and gas station / road houses.


    all types of vending type machines make great money.
    my family ran motels and the phones and the coke machine made tons
    of money. sometimes it made more than the rooms made.

    it's too bad that in society we cant have pay phones because people vandalize them.
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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to Ogg on Tue Sep 22 22:03:00 2020
    Ogg wrote to Dennisk <=-

    Hello Dennisk!

    ** On Monday 21.09.20 - 22:23, dennisk wrote to Ogg:

    The old phones may be cool to look at, but horrid to use.

    My battery lasts for days, and the replacement cost $15
    and was very easy to install. Just pop the back cover and
    put the new battery in.

    My adopted Blackberry Q10 is pretty old by some phone
    standards, but it has room to support the better 4G stuff for
    while longer. Fine with me. And.. it has the user
    replaceable battery feature too. I have 3 that cycle from [1]
    one on charge, [2] one fully charged and waiting, and [3] one
    in the phone.

    Thats what I did. Because its easy to swap the battery, I can have one charged on standby. If I need to go out with a low battery, I just switch them. Easy.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Tue Sep 22 08:39:46 2020
    Re: Re: homeless people.. wit
    By: MRO to Moondog on Mon Sep 21 2020 08:26 pm

    all types of vending type machines make great money.
    my family ran motels and the phones and the coke machine made tons
    of money. sometimes it made more than the rooms made.

    it's too bad that in society we cant have pay phones because people vandalize them. ---

    I thought pay phones were disappearing because most people have cell phones these days. I've never heard of pay phone vandalism being a big problem.

    Nightfox

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Ogg on Tue Sep 22 12:18:09 2020
    Re: Re: homeless people.. wit
    By: Ogg to Dennisk on Mon Sep 21 2020 08:15 pm

    My adopted Blackberry Q10 is pretty old by some phone
    standards, but it has room to support the better 4G stuff for
    while longer. Fine with me. And.. it has the user
    replaceable battery feature too. I have 3 that cycle from [1]
    one on charge, [2] one fully charged and waiting, and [3] one
    in the phone.

    I'd like to see phone that looks like the Blackberry Q10 with a more suitable operating system like a modified Android and a decent chipset. I would probably pick one up as a spare if that were the case. I've always liked the little qwerty keyboard and appearance of Blackberry phones however found them trash to use. I've owned 3 in the past and they were all garbage compared to the earlier iPhones.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Tue Sep 22 17:55:15 2020
    Re: Re: homeless people.. wit
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Tue Sep 22 2020 08:39 am

    I thought pay phones were disappearing because most people have cell phones these days. I've never heard of pay phone vandalism being a big problem.

    it was a huge problem.
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  • From Ogg@VERT/EOTLBBS to Andeddu on Tue Sep 22 19:59:00 2020
    Hello Andeddu!

    ** On Tuesday 22.09.20 - 07:18, andeddu wrote to Ogg:

    I'd like to see phone that looks like the Blackberry Q10
    with a more suitable operating system like a modified
    Android and a decent chipset. I would probably pick one up
    as a spare if that were the case. I've always liked the
    little qwerty keyboard and appearance of Blackberry phones
    however found them trash to use. I've owned 3 in the past
    and they were all garbage compared to the earlieriPhones.

    Trash to use? ..how so?

    For using it just as a phone it's the perfect size. For
    modest texting and checking for emails, it's fine. The built-
    in FM radio is quite nice to have when streaming something
    doesn't make sense.

    For www or video streaming, the screen is way too small. But
    that is not my requirement.

    For operating as a camera and as a photo album, the whole
    thing is just the right size.

    Everything that I need it for works really well.

    Just wondering what your classification of trash is based on.

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  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Ogg on Wed Sep 23 20:07:56 2020
    Re: Re: homeless people.. wit
    By: Ogg to Andeddu on Tue Sep 22 2020 07:59 pm

    Trash to use? ..how so?

    For using it just as a phone it's the perfect size. For
    modest texting and checking for emails, it's fine. The built-
    in FM radio is quite nice to have when streaming something
    doesn't make sense.

    For www or video streaming, the screen is way too small. But
    that is not my requirement.

    For operating as a camera and as a photo album, the whole
    thing is just the right size.

    Everything that I need it for works really well.

    Just wondering what your classification of trash is based on.

    I was meaning that the operating system was trash. Perhaps the more modern ones are useable now but Blackberry had the absolute worst browser back in 2008-2012. I used 3 seperate phones along with the Blackberry Playbook on different carriers and WiFi connections and the browser couldnt be trusted to bring up a page consistently. I didn't like the Blackberry OS which was missing so many features and apps which were available on Android and iOS. Overall it was a third rate experience compared to the rest of the competition.

    I do like the aesthetics of Blackberry phones though. Loved the appearance of the Passport, the Q10 along with the Classic, etc... great looking phones but not very useful for power users like me. If it's perfect for your needs, then great. But Blackberry hasn't been a successful company for sometime now because a lot of users, like me, noticed its glaring weaknesses.

    There will be a new 5G ready Blackberry set to release in Q1 or Q2 2021 with a keyboard which has had some interest. I think something like a built in physical keyboard in 2021 is a great way to differentiate your phone from the crowd, as all phones now look the same with their bezel less screens.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Wed Sep 23 07:00:00 2020
    Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-

    I thought pay phones were disappearing because most people have cell phones these days. I've never heard of pay phone vandalism being a big problem.

    No, you're right. Pay phone profits dropped steadily as cell phones
    took off.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Sep 24 00:21:30 2020
    Re: Re: homeless people.. wit
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Wed Sep 23 2020 07:00 am

    Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-

    I thought pay phones were disappearing because most people have cell
    phones these days. I've never heard of pay phone vandalism being a
    big problem.

    No, you're right. Pay phone profits dropped steadily as cell phones
    took off.


    that may be what wikipedia says, but i saw pay phones dwindle away before cellphones were common place.

    i dont think they were ever profitable except where immigrants used them to call home. not worth the cost to maintain them. also the phones were probably expensive and you have to have someone go around to collect the change. they probably used more money for gas than they collected in some machines.
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  • From Multiplemiggs@VERT/CAVEBBS to Vk3jed on Tue Oct 13 13:19:00 2020
    Re: Re: homeless people.. wit
    By: Vk3jed to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 21 2020 07:04 pm

    On 09-20-20 08:08, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Ogg <=-

    With the GSM carriers, they've been phasing out the older networks -
    2G is already dead, 3G is going away soon. Old phone won't work
    anymore, if I understand correctly.

    That's certainly true here.


    ... It's best to be judged by twelve than carried by six.

    My service provider is is giving GSM the axe on new years eve.
    Sucks cause I still have a Nokia 1600b that works great after 12 years.
    week+ battery life.

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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Multiplemiggs on Thu Oct 15 19:23:00 2020
    On 10-13-20 13:19, Multiplemiggs wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    My service provider is is giving GSM the axe on new years eve.
    Sucks cause I still have a Nokia 1600b that works great after 12 years. week+ battery life.

    Yeah 3G is the lowest grade of service available here, so you probably wouldn't get much joy from that phone here. :)


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