throwing around slur words like it's 1985.Having no tolerance for intolerance is still intolerance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
As a (presumably) straight white man, I think you underestimate the effects bigotry has on minorities.
I did a poor job of phrasing my thoughts here. In this point, I'm talking
that some other demographic would take over as the majority. My meaning is more along the lines of old straight white men becoming less & less dominant of a majority.
As a (presumably) straight white man, I think you underestimate the effectsyou're literally being a bigot right now.
bigotry has on minorities.
As a (presumably) straight white man, I think you underestimate the
effects bigotry has on minorities.
you're literally being a bigot right now.
How did I do that, by assuming you're a straight white man? The level of entitledness you display tends to be indicative of straight white men. I mean, I've seen racial minorities turn on other minorities, but it always baffles me. Minorities of all types would be best off sticking together.
How did I do that, by assuming you're a straight white man? The level ofYeah, Assuming he is a straight white man by his actions here alone is pretty bigoted.. I'm a straight whit man, and I don't care what anyone does or does'nt do, is or is'nt, as long as it does'nt me or my loved ones.. "Straight White Man" is a fairly large "Demographic".. so yes.. statistically it could come up like that in the numbers.. especially if
entitledness you display tends to be indicative of straight white men. I
mean, I've seen racial minorities turn on other minorities, but it always
baffles me. Minorities of all types would be best off sticking together.
Ravne wrote to MRO <=-
As a (presumably) straight white man, I think you underestimate the effects
bigotry has on minorities.
you're literally being a bigot right now.
How did I do that, by assuming you're a straight white man? The
level of entitledness you display tends to be indicative of
straight white men. I mean, I've seen racial minorities turn on
other minorities, but it always baffles me. Minorities of all
types would be best off sticking together.
I kinda wish I had time to troll properly with you, but I lead a
busy life. I spend lots of time at work, or taking care of my
family, or with my partner keeping me "busy". Besides, it's only
a week until Pride month, I have way too many lesbian antics to
take part in to waste my time on old straight men.
How did I do that, by assuming you're a straight white man? The level of entitledness you display tends to be indicative of straight white men. I
I kinda wish I had time to troll properly with you,
but I lead a busy life.
partner keeping me "busy". Besides, it's only a week until Pride month, I have way too many lesbian antics to take part in to waste my time on old straight men.
Ravne wrote to kk4qbn <=-
How did I do that, by assuming you're a straight white man? The level of
entitledness you display tends to be indicative of straight white men. I
mean, I've seen racial minorities turn on other minorities, but it always
baffles me. Minorities of all types would be best off sticking together.
Yeah, Assuming he is a straight white man by his actions here alone is pretty bigoted.. I'm a straight whit man, and I don't care what anyone does or does'nt do, is or is'nt, as long as it does'nt me or my loved ones.. "Straight White Man" is a fairly large "Demographic".. so yes.. statistically it could come up like that in the numbers.. especially if
You may be right on some level. To clarify, I don't think all
straight white men are a problem. I also don't think that other demographics can't be a problem, but I do think (rough
guesstimate) 4/5 times this kind of behavior comes from straight
white men.
Quoting Ravne to Kk4qbn <=-
You may be right on some level. To clarify, I don't think all straight white men are a problem. I also don't think that other demographics
can't be a problem, but I do think (rough guesstimate) 4/5 times this
kind of behavior comes from straight white men. -!-
You <insert word here>, are a bigot. Wow... I almost never bother with mro / anti mro posts, but you are more offensive then he is.
You <insert word here>, are a bigot. Wow... I almost never bother with
mro / anti mro posts, but you are more offensive then he is.
I get it, I came on way too strong & was extremely clumsy with my delivery. Point taken, lesson learned. I'm a big enough person to admit when I'm wrong. I have some autistic tendencies & that seems to make it difficult for me to see where the line is before I cross it.
Quoting Ravne to Kk4qbn <=-
You may be right on some level. To clarify, I don't think all straight white men are a problem. I also don't think that other demographics can't be a problem, but I do think (rough guesstimate) 4/5 times this kind of behavior comes from straight white men. -!-
You <insert word here>, are a bigot. Wow... I almost never bother with
mro / anti mro posts, but you are more offensive then he is.
Point taken, lesson learned. I'm a big enough person to admit when I'm wrong. I have some autistic tendencies & that seems to make it difficult for me to see where the line is before I cross it.
you dont have the brainpower or the testicular fortitude to troll me
must be hard sucking all those dirty dicks.
Re: Re: BBS community improvements
By: MRO to Ravne on Sat May 25 2024 07:00 pm
you dont have the brainpower or the testicular fortitude to troll me must be hard sucking all those dirty dicks.
You really just have zero idea of how to insult a lesbian. It's almost funny in how pathetic it is. You need some new material.
Quoting Ravne to Tiny <=-
I get it, I came on way too strong & was extremely clumsy with my delivery. Point taken, lesson learned. I'm a big enough person to
admit when I'm wrong.
How did I do that, by assuming you're a straight white man? The level of entitledness you display tends to be indicative of straight white men. I
You may be right on some level. To clarify, I don't think all straight white men are a problem. I also don't think that other demographics can't be a problem, but I do think (rough guesstimate) 4/5 times this kind of behavior comes from straight white men.
P.S - Since you only care about genders and such and nothing else, I'll
await breathless for you to call me a straight white man, or something else you find offensive.
Ravne wrote to MRO <=-
must be hard sucking all those dirty dicks.
You really just have zero idea of how to insult a lesbian. It's almost funny in how pathetic it is. You need some new material.
P.S - Since you only care about genders and such and nothing else, I'll await breathless for you to call me a straight white man, or something else you find offensive.
Maybe someone should create a bot that counts how often Ravne uses that term? :D
must be hard sucking all those dirty dicks.
You really just have zero idea of how to insult a lesbian. It's almostI think he thinks we're all depraved men in soiled sweatpants living in their parent's basement. Sounds like projection to me.
funny in how pathetic it is. You need some new material.
Ravne wrote to MRO <=-
Re: Re: BBS community improvements
By: MRO to Ravne on Sat May 25 2024 07:00 pm
you dont have the brainpower or the testicular fortitude to troll me
must be hard sucking all those dirty dicks.
You really just have zero idea of how to insult a lesbian. It's
almost funny in how pathetic it is. You need some new material.
While I don't think gay men are depraved, I think you may have a point about MRO projecting. That could explain a lot, he's just a flaming gay guy dying to come out. That could also explain his flair for theatrics. Flaming gay men just LOVE theatrics.
Projection tends to be the main MO of all of these types, the ones that hate on LGBTQ people & call us groomers & pedos. The haters are the ones that truly want to be pedos, they've even shown us by trying to make
child marriage legal. ---
You really just have zero idea of how to insult a lesbian. It's almostYou're a very cunning linguist.
funny in how pathetic it is. You need some new material.
Methinks you're also a troll and will be gone soon.
Another reminder in case it didn't get noticed in an earlier message where I mentioned it: It's less than a week to Pride month. How about we get some real ACTUAL support from y'all, instead of jumping on the bandwagons of demonizing us.
Quoting Ravne to Gamgee <=-
where I mentioned it: It's less than a week to Pride month. How about
we get some real ACTUAL support from y'all, instead of jumping on the bandwagons of demonizing us.
Ravne wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: BBS community improvements
By: Gamgee to Ravne on Mon May 27 2024 08:21 pm
You really just have zero idea of how to insult a lesbian. It's almost
funny in how pathetic it is. You need some new material.
You're a very cunning linguist.
Methinks you're also a troll and will be gone soon.
Another reminder in case it didn't get noticed in an earlier
message where I mentioned it: It's less than a week to Pride
month. How about we get some real ACTUAL support from y'all,
instead of jumping on the bandwagons of demonizing us.
How did I do that, by assuming you're a straight white man? The level of entitledness you display tends to be indicative of straight white men. I
That sounds like a bigot flag to me right there.
Projection tends to be the main MO of all of these types, the ones that hate on
LGBTQ people & call us groomers & pedos. The haters are the ones that truly >want to be pedos, they've even shown us by trying to make child marriage legal.
Tiny wrote to RAVNE <=-
Let's turn pride month into anti war month. Something that matters and will save the world.
Yes. I also don't see straight white men having such a monopoly on entitledness, either. I see it in a lot of younger people regardless of race, gender, or sexual orientation.
They also mistake older people who worked hard for what they have as "entitled" when they just want to protect what they've earned. The key there is they "worked hard" for it and don't expect anything above what
they worked for, unlike the entitled youth who thinks their short time of (maybe) working entitles them to the same things.
That sounds like a bigot flag to me right there.
Yes. I also don't see straight white men having such a monopoly on entitledness, either. I see it in a lot of younger people regardless of race, gender, or sexual orientation.
They also mistake older people who worked hard for what they have as "entitled" when they just want to protect what they've earned. The key there is they "worked hard" for it and don't expect anything above what
I am a straight white guy and I've feelt disadvantaged my entire life. I
people to make it feel hostile. The days of you older straight white men being the majority are ending, we need to appeal to those that are becoming the majority. If I hadn't been into BBSing in the mid 90s & had other women
now you're a homophobe lol
"Flaming gay men just LOVE theatrics" .. are you gonna start talking
about people eating watermelon now?
Was I trolling? Absolutely! Is that my interest in general? Not at all.So that "straight white men" was just an "edgy insult" as well, yes? This isn't a one way street, here.
I just get upset when I see people using slur words that were originally aimed at my people, taking them & throwing them around as "edgy insults"
1. at people they may not even apply to & 2. using such hurtful things
in such a casual manner.
Another reminder in case it didn't get noticed in an earlier message
where I mentioned it: It's less than a week to Pride month. How about we get some real ACTUAL support from y'all, instead of jumping on the bandwagons of demonizing us.
On Tue, 28 May 2024 03:54:00 +0000, you wrote:
now you're a homophobe lol
"Flaming gay men just LOVE theatrics" .. are you gonna start talking about people eating watermelon now?
Should also be pointed out that nothing poindexter said included the word "gay". That was projected in the reply to him.
aimed at my people, taking them & throwing them around as "edgy insults"So that "straight white men" was just an "edgy insult" as well, yes? This isn't a one way street, here.
1. at people they may not even apply to & 2. using such hurtful things in
In case you didn't realize or care, we just got done mourning the heroes that have given their lives to protect "our" (that's OUR as in ALL OF US - See? No demonizing there either) freedoms. Did you bother supporting that,
Who tried to make child marriage legal recently? I know historically people did get married off at very young ages, but I have not seen any push to have that happen here in the US lately.
So that "straight white men" was just an "edgy insult" as well, yes? This isn't a one way street, here.
Are you really implying that referring to straight white men as straight white men is just as hurtful as referring to LGBTQ people as fags,
pedos, & groomers? Really??!! Seriously??!!
I'm alive, so obviously I didn't "make the ultimate sacrifice" for my country. I'm a veteran though, so don't you dare suggest I don't know
what it takes to defend our freedoms. Were you assuming as a lesbian I couldn't be a veteran? We were in the military long before we were
openly accepted there. We defended the freedoms of those that push the attitude that our rights should be taken, the same as every military
member defended ALL of our freedoms, including the freedom of LGBTQ
people to love those that we love.
I get it, you're a "middle of the road, I don't support you, but I don't want you to be murdered" type of guy. Do you speak out against those
that do think I should be murdered, though? If not, then you're part of
the problem.
I'm alive, so obviously I didn't "make the ultimate sacrifice" for myNo mention of it whatsoever, though. Instead, you insist on pushing another agenda entirely, and putting people down if they don't have the same views as you do.
country. I'm a veteran though, so don't you dare suggest I don't know what
So that "straight white men" was just an "edgy insult" as well, yes? This
isn't a one way street, here.
I apologize for forgetting to ask sooner. What's your "preferred term" for yourself?
No mention of it whatsoever, though. Instead, you insist on pushing
another agenda entirely, and putting people down if they don't have the
same views as you do.
"Why is the government getting involved in people's lives like this?" Van Schoiak said. "What purpose do we have in deciding that a couple who are 16 or 17 years old, their parents say, you know, `you guys love each other, go ahead and get married, you have my permission.' Why would we stop that?" ht tps://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article288424893.html#stor y link=cpy
Another reminder in case it didn't get noticed in an earlier message where I mentioned it: It's less than a week to Pride month. How about we get some real ACTUAL support from y'all, instead of jumping on the bandwagons of demonizing us.
Imagine a global 30-day cease-fire. Every conflict.
(Naaah, military-industrial complex shareholders wouldn't stand for it.)
I get it, you're a "middle of the road, I don't support you, but I don't want you to be murdered" type of guy. Do you speak out against those that do think I should be murdered, though? If not, then you're part of the problem.
I don't see it now, but you said something about me going about trying to get my point across the wrong way. Am I? I don't know that I agree with that opinion. First of all, I have no delusion that I'm going to convince anyone
Quoting Poindexter Fortran to Tiny <=-
Let's turn pride month into anti war month. Something that matters and will save the world.
Imagine a global 30-day cease-fire. Every conflict.
(Naaah, military-industrial complex shareholders wouldn't stand for
it.)
kk4qbn wrote to Ravne <=-
Re: BBS community improvements
By: Ravne to Accession on Tue May 28 2024 19:24:13
So that "straight white men" was just an "edgy insult" as well, yes? This
isn't a one way street, here.
I apologize for forgetting to ask sooner. What's your "preferred term" for yourself?
My question in all this crap is why do people think they need
label, I don't want someome to think of me as a straight white
male or a gay black toaster or whatever, because publicly my
sexual orientation is no ones business.. or anything else to that
matter.. I've never understood this..
I love /s how my desire to have the same rights as straight people is considered an "agenda" & how my desire to not be murdered is considered
my "view". That's really all Pride is about, our demands (you're damn
well right, we DEMAND) to be safe & have the same rights as everyone
else, including the right to fair jobs access, fair housing, everything that straight people expect for themselves. Pride is about normalizing
our existence in the world, not about trying to "shove our views in everyone's face".
with that opinion. First of all, I have no delusion that I'm going to convince anyone here of anything, I'm really not sure why I even keep responding. Except, maybe there's an LGBTQ person out there that's been afraid to come out & maybe seeing my posts will help them be less afraid.
leopards eating faces are straight people that pretend to support gay people just long enough to try to get us to let our guards down. ---
Yes. I also don't see straight white men having such a monopoly on entitledness, either. I see it in a lot of younger people regardless of race, gender, or sexual orientation.
They also mistake older people who worked hard for what they have as "entitled" when they just want to protect what they've earned. The key there is they "worked hard" for it and don't expect anything above what they worked for, unlike the entitled youth who thinks their short time of (maybe) working entitles them to the same things.
I think of the ones that signed a contract, (loan) to go to college then expect the rest of us that worked like dogs to pay their loans off.
Who tried to make child marriage legal recently? I know historically people >> did get married off at very young ages, but I have not seen any push to have >> that happen here in the US lately.
Missouri tried to ban child marriage but ran into resistance from house republicans.
Seven of the 14 committee members oppose the legislation and disagree with raising the state's marriage age, he said. "It's on the.going 16 to 18,"
"Why is the government getting involved in people's lives like this?" Van Schoiak said. "What purpose do we have in deciding that a couple who are 16 or
17 years old, their parents say, you know, `you guys love each other, go ahead
and get married, you have my permission.' Why would we stop that?"
Imagine a global 30-day cease-fire. Every conflict.
(Naaah, military-industrial complex shareholders wouldn't stand for it.)
Are you really implying that referring to straight white men as straight white men is just as hurtful as referring to LGBTQ people as fags,
pedos, & groomers? Really??!! Seriously??!!
You used it as a derogatory term, just as people use the words you mention as derogatory terms, also.
My question in all this crap is why do people think they need label, I don't >want someome to think of me as a straight white male or a gay black toaster or >whatever, because publicly my sexual orientation is no ones business.. or >anything else to that matter.. I've never understood this..
I love /s how my desire to have the same rights as straight people is considered an "agenda" & how my desire to not be murdered is considered my "view". That's really all Pride is about, our demands (you're damn well right,
we DEMAND) to be safe & have the same rights as everyone else, including the right to fair jobs access, fair housing, everything that straight people expec
for themselves. Pride is about normalizing our existence in the world, not about trying to "shove our views in everyone's face".
(Naaah, military-industrial complex shareholders wouldn't stand for it.)
I'd go the American way and turn it into a comercial festivity with discounts and liquidations of old stocks.
"Celebrate peace month with us! 40% off in any obsolete weaponry! Help the planet purchasing refurbished tanks instead of having new ones made! Try now our steel ammo, much less poisonous to the environment than traditional lead ammo, 30% off this month only!!!!"
So it is only legal with parental consent. They are not trying to *make it legal*, it is *already* legal.
By the way, you don't have to pick on a "hick state" for this, either. California also allows persons under 18 to marry with parental consent,
just like Missouri does.
fusion wrote to Ravne <=-
On 28 May 2024, Ravne said the following...
I love /s how my desire to have the same rights as straight people is considered an "agenda" & how my desire to not be murdered is considered
my "view". That's really all Pride is about, our demands (you're damn
well right, we DEMAND) to be safe & have the same rights as everyone
else, including the right to fair jobs access, fair housing, everything that straight people expect for themselves. Pride is about normalizing
our existence in the world, not about trying to "shove our views in everyone's face".
this has to be a joke. easily the largest source of violence
against your community is from within. domestic violence is huge
.. why do you hate each other? everything you read will say the
violence is perpetrated by a "partner" .. what sort of parter do
you expect a gay person might choose? everyone is so desperate to
make it seem like random straight guys are going around beating
up gay (or trans or whatever) people for fun.
do you know how hard it is to find modern recent examples of "gay
bashing" like you want to fearmonger? wikipedia, the source for
all things bullshit, repeatedly will use wording like "in some
countries" and other vague wording.. do you know how large the
USA section of the Violence against LGBT people page is? And half
of it is COPE about "ohh, it's because nobody reports it" .. and
you know what happens when you lot have nothing to complain about
in the US? "well, it's still happening somewhere on the planet!"
..
it gets even more annoying when it's like "this homeless gay
person was robbed! gay homeless people are more likely to be
robbed! like 95%!" .. imagine i robbed 100 people and 5 of them
were gay.. a perhaps generous estimate of the % of people in the
US who are gay.. do you see how that skews that statistics?
almost every homeless person gets robbed. holy cow all the
homeless gay people got robbed, we have to do something about
this violence against queer people!
then you keep getting at how "words are violence" .. you
repeatedly lump the word "fag" in with "pedophile" and "groomer"
the first is an insult against a trait that can't be changed.. a
part of who you are, as some people insist. but the second two
it's obvious you would want to defend against. but if you remove
the second two we have the two options here:
"fag" <-> "straight white men"
these are traits that can't be changed, and your usage is meant
to degrade and demean. do you make fun of the handicapped?
perhaps people with speech impediments? bash a few redheads now
and again? these are now both traits protected under the Civil
Rights Act btw.. but talking about progress is lame right?
with that opinion. First of all, I have no delusion that I'm going to convince anyone here of anything, I'm really not sure why I even keep responding. Except, maybe there's an LGBTQ person out there that's been afraid to come out & maybe seeing my posts will help them be less afraid.
i know why you keep responding.. because that's exactly what you
came here for. you're like those people who on their first day
joining twitter are trying out their hand at some bullshit
trolling only to be dunked on by a bunch of spergs with anime
avitars. you didn't want to be a part of this community, which is
why you set yourself apart from it in the beginning. "if it
wasn't for a few BBS women back in the day who told me everything
will be okay because you're a woman" .. fuck off. i was going to
ask if you wanted a parade for that, but that's exactly what you
want.
leopards eating faces are straight people that pretend to support gay people just long enough to try to get us to let our guards down. ---
this is mental illness. if you're afraid of people like this.
fear of what's around every corner.
Dumas Walker wrote to ACCESSION <=-as
Are you really implying that referring to straight white men as straight white men is just as hurtful as referring to LGBTQ people as fags, pedos, & groomers? Really??!! Seriously??!!
You used it as a derogatory term, just as people use the words you mention
derogatory terms, also.
+1
I apologize for forgetting to ask sooner. What's your "preferred term"
for yourself?
My question in all this crap is why do people think they need label, I don't want someome to think of me as a straight white male or a gay
black toaster or whatever, because publicly my sexual orientation is no ones business.. or anything else to that matter.. I've never understood this..
Hi! You can call me Tim!
I get it, you're a "middle of the road, I don't support you, but I don't want you to be murdered" type of guy. Do you speak out against those that do think I should be murdered, though? If not, then you're part of the problem.
+1
+2,000,000
I get it, you're a "middle of the road, I don't support you, but I don't
want you to be murdered" type of guy. Do you speak out against those that do >> think I should be murdered, though? If not, then you're part of the problem.
I have a big issue when somebody claims that you either support him or you are >his enemy. That trait becomes an extremist and the claim is most often false >than true.
I think he thinks we're all depraved men in soiled sweatpants living in their parent's basement. Sounds like projection to me.
Re: Re: BBS community improvements
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Ravne on Mon May 27 2024 07:46 am
I think he thinks we're all depraved men in soiled sweatpants living in their parent's basement. Sounds like projection to me.
Yeah. I WISH my parents had a basement.
I think he thinks we're all depraved men in soiled sweatpants living in their parent's basement. Sounds like projection to me.
Yeah. I WISH my parents had a basement.
I wish mine still lived in their previous home. It had a finished basement (well, technically it was a bi-level) complete with bathrooms and bedrooms.
That'd be a nice setup! :D
Now, my mother lives in a much smaller home with no basement, while my father and his wife live in a home with a clean, dry basement but with no facilities. It does at least have electric and is a walk out. ;)
atleast you got a mom! my mom died of covid on her birthday.
atleast you got a mom! my mom died of covid on her birthday.
;(
True, and I am glad I do still have one.
summer. smoked marlboro reds every day.
summer. smoked marlboro reds every day.
That will unfortunately do it.
Re: Re: BBS community improvements
By: kk4qbn to Ravne on Sat May 25 2024 15:16:25
Re: Re: BBS community improvements
By: Ravne to Gamgee on Mon May 27 2024 08:13 pm
Sorry, nobody needs to hijack an entire month for self glorification.
Or self pity how ever you want to look at it.
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