• Gun Grabbers

    From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to All on Wed Jul 11 12:20:20 2018
    There are multiple "assault weapons" bans being pushed throughout the
    country, there is legislation in Congress to enact an effective ban on handguns, an out of control California DOJ is pushing regulations that will criminalize millions of gun owners, and Democratic politicians are openly saying that they are coming to take your guns.

    Were angry, frustrated, and upset at everything that is going on with the country and how these arrogant, self-centered, selfish leftists think they
    can run your life for you, violate your own personal decisions, override what you think is the best method of self-defense for yourself and your family,
    and take away your fundamental, God-given rights.

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to Thumper on Sat Jul 14 10:33:03 2018
    Re: Gun Grabbers
    By: Thumper to All on Wed Jul 11 2018 12:20 pm

    Were angry, frustrated, and upset at everything that is going on with the country and how these arrogant, self-centered, selfish leftists think they can run your life for you, violate your own personal decisions, override what you think is the best method of self-defense for yourself and your family, and take away your fundamental, God-given rights.

    Hi, arrogant, self-centered, selfish leftist here.

    Also, I own guns.

    The best method of self-defense for yourself is the one that works for you, but does not unnecessarily risk harming others. That's why booby-trapping your property is illegal in (as far as I know) every state. For many large and explosive weapons the ATF has to sign off on civilian ownership.

    Therefore, if you think your best method of self-defense is mining your property, you can't. If you think the best method of self-defense is an operational 120mm smoothbore gun from a tank, you're not allowed to own the shells without ATF approval (and a $200 tax on each).

    I saw you mention "common-sense laws" earlier. Common sense dictates that mining your property or firing a 120mm explosive anti-personnel round at an intruder shouldn't be done.

    For the majority of Americans, common-sense also suggests that to own a firearm one should be properly trained, and licensed, similar to how one gets a license to drive a car.

    DaiTengu

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  • From Derision@VERT/AMIGAC to DaiTengu on Mon Jul 16 21:28:39 2018
    Re: Gun Grabbers
    By: DaiTengu to Thumper on Sat Jul 14 2018 10:33:03

    I saw you mention "common-sense laws" earlier. Common sense dictates that mining your property or firing a 120mm explosive anti-personnel round at an intruder shouldn't be done.

    For the majority of Americans, common-sense also suggests that to own a firearm one should be properly trained, and licensed, similar to how one gets a license to drive a car.

    This. I have no general problem with guns, but I don't see why you shouldn't need to have a license, registration, and maybe even insurance in the same way that you would a car. We make people do that to own a car so that we know that they have at least a marginal idea of how to operate it, and won't go driving on sidewalks mowing people down. In the same vein, I don't see why you shouldn't be properly trained and licensed to use any kind of a gun as well. Cos I'd much rather you understand how it works, than just be some schmo that walked off the street and bought a rifle from Wal-Mart with nothing except "guns are cool" as background.

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  • From JIMMYLOGAN@VERT/OTHETA to DERISION on Mon Aug 6 23:44:00 2018
    DERISION wrote to DAITENGU <=-

    I saw you mention "common-sense laws" earlier. Common sense dictates that mining your property or firing a 120mm explosive anti-personnel round at an intruder shouldn't be done.

    For the majority of Americans, common-sense also suggests that to own a firearm one should be properly trained, and licensed, similar to how one gets a license to drive a car.

    This. I have no general problem with guns, but I don't see why you shouldn't need to have a license, registration, and maybe even
    insurance in the same way that you would a car. We make people do that
    to own a car so that we know that they have at least a marginal idea of how to operate it, and won't go driving on sidewalks mowing people
    down. In the same vein, I don't see why you shouldn't be properly
    trained and licensed to use any kind of a gun as well. Cos I'd much
    rather you understand how it works, than just be some schmo that walked off the street and bought a rifle from Wal-Mart with nothing except
    "guns are cool" as background.

    In my area, people are basically brought up with or without guns. Those
    of us raised with guns were taught how to use, store, etc. Those without
    that kind of raising? Sure - they could use it. I know schools now teach driver's education - we didn't have that when I was in school, but I
    still took a test to get a driver's license.

    I did NOT take a test to own a gun, and I think the 2nd amendment allows
    me to OWN. I DID take a test and submitted myself to finger-printing
    and a background check to get a license to CARRY a gun on my person.




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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to Derision on Thu Sep 13 15:53:54 2018

    For the majority of Americans, common-sense also suggests that to own
    a
    firearm one should be properly trained, and licensed, similar to how
    one
    gets a license to drive a car.

    This. I have no general problem with guns, but I don't see why you
    shouldn't
    need to have a license, registration, and maybe even insurance in the
    same
    way that you would a car. We make people do that to own a car so that we know that they have at least a marginal idea of how to operate it, and
    won't
    go driving on sidewalks mowing people down. In the same vein, I don't
    see
    why you shouldn't be properly trained and licensed to use any kind of a
    gun
    as well. Cos I'd much rather you understand how it works, than just be
    some
    schmo that walked off the street and bought a rifle from Wal-Mart with nothing except "guns are cool" as background.

    The problem would be that criminals and killers would not bother to do any
    of that and as usual, the only ones that suffer and pay the "ginormous"
    fees for it are the legal, law-abiding citizens.

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  • From danly@VERT/ALKY to Thumper on Sun Nov 18 14:05:00 2018
    One of the nice side-effects of licensing and registration of firearms is
    that it quickly becomes evident just how gang-related violence dominates firearms fatalities. Here in Canada, the number of homicides by PAL-holders
    is approximately about as many women who are charged with infanticide; that
    is, it's statistically irrelevant. It makes for good argument data for
    firearms owners.

    However, that doesn't stop the Liberals and NDP from seeking to further make miserable the lives of PAL-holders or to deprive them of their property. When it comes to gang-related firearms violence our progressive politicians stick their fingers in their ears, close their eyes, and scream LALALALA.

    -D

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to danly on Wed Feb 20 21:13:00 2019
    Re: Re: Gun Grabbers
    By: danly to Thumper on Sun Nov 18 2018 02:05 pm

    One of the nice side-effects of licensing and registration of firearms is that it quickly becomes evident just how gang-related violence dominates firearms fatalities. Here in Canada, the number of homicides by PAL-holders is approximately about as many women who are charged with infanticide; that is, it's statistically irrelevant. It makes for good argument data for firearms owners.

    However, that doesn't stop the Liberals and NDP from seeking to further make miserable the lives of PAL-holders or to deprive them of their property. Whe it comes to gang-related firearms violence our progressive politicians stick their fingers in their ears, close their eyes, and scream LALALALA.

    -D

    Illinois is trying to make it harder for their residents. Already you need
    an Firearms Ownership ID Card in order to buy guns and ammo. New legislation will require an FOID holder to turn over every social media and discussion forum account name and password so the state can monitor you for "red flags" that indicate violent behavior. This is alread a hot issue because it
    violates due process of law, but it also treats those who are actually
    obeying the law like they are criminals

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  • From Thumper@VERT/THEWASTE to Moondog on Thu Feb 21 12:10:00 2019
    Moondog wrote to danly <=-


    Illinois is trying to make it harder for their residents. Already you need an Firearms Ownership ID Card in order to buy guns and ammo. New legislation will require an FOID holder to turn over every social media and discussion forum account name and password so the state can monitor you for "red flags" that indicate violent behavior. This is alread a
    hot issue because it violates due process of law, but it also treats
    those who are actually obeying the law like they are criminals

    That's bad but I'm sure their working on something like that here in Commiefornia....



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Fri Feb 22 16:39:00 2019
    Illinois is trying to make it harder for their residents. Already you need an Firearms Ownership ID Card in order to buy guns and ammo. New legislation will require an FOID holder to turn over every social media and discussion forum account name and password so the state can monitor you for "red flags" that indicate violent behavior. This is alread a hot issue because it violates due process of law, but it also treats those who are actually obeying the law like they are criminals

    Meanwhile, there are no longer any illegal shootings and gun-crimes in
    Chicago because all of this is working so darn well. <sarcasm mode off>

    Socialists, Communists, and other authoritarians don't want the
    non-criminals to have guns because it will make it easier to tell them what
    to do and have them do nothing about it. They are willing to accept that criminals will still have guns because, let's face it, there will always be criminals.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Mon Feb 25 12:19:00 2019
    Re: Re: Gun Grabbers
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Fri Feb 22 2019 04:39 pm

    Illinois is trying to make it harder for their residents. Already you nee an Firearms Ownership ID Card in order to buy guns and ammo. New legislat will require an FOID holder to turn over every social media and discussion forum account name and password so the state can monitor you for "red flag that indicate violent behavior. This is alread a hot issue because it violates due process of law, but it also treats those who are actually obeying the law like they are criminals

    Meanwhile, there are no longer any illegal shootings and gun-crimes in Chicago because all of this is working so darn well. <sarcasm mode off>

    Socialists, Communists, and other authoritarians don't want the non-criminals to have guns because it will make it easier to tell them what to do and have them do nothing about it. They are willing to accept that criminals will still have guns because, let's face it, there will always be criminals.

    The worst part about it all is how uninformed and misinformed the mainstream media is on firearms and their function. I've seen some of the worst
    computer animations of firearms functioning on the news. For example, one animation showing the complete bullet, cartridge and all,flying out the
    barrel.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Moondog on Thu Feb 28 16:53:00 2019
    Moondog wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    The worst part about it all is how uninformed and misinformed the mainstream media is on firearms and their function. I've seen some of
    the worst computer animations of firearms functioning on the news. For example, one animation showing the complete bullet, cartridge and all,flying out the barrel.

    That is how they worked on Looney-Tunes cartoons, too. The media often
    does little research into hot-button issues. They know all they have to do
    is mention them to get an audience.



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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to THUMPER on Tue Apr 16 12:16:00 2019
    I just thought of something I should have thought of before...

    When someone mentions people driving on sidewalks, I should
    ask why someone would do that? Doesn't that mean they are
    wanting to cause havoc, and it's NOT just because they
    don't have a license?





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    For the majority of Americans, common-sense also suggests that to own
    a
    firearm one should be properly trained, and licensed, similar to how
    one
    gets a license to drive a car.

    This. I have no general problem with guns, but I don't see why you
    shouldn't
    need to have a license, registration, and maybe even insurance in the
    same
    way that you would a car. We make people do that to own a car so that we know that they have at least a marginal idea of how to operate it, and
    won't
    go driving on sidewalks mowing people down. In the same vein, I don't
    see
    why you shouldn't be properly trained and licensed to use any kind of a
    gun
    as well. Cos I'd much rather you understand how it works, than just be
    some
    schmo that walked off the street and bought a rifle from Wal-Mart with nothing except "guns are cool" as background.

    The problem would be that criminals and killers would not bother to do
    any of that and as usual, the only ones that suffer and pay the "ginormous" fees for it are the legal, law-abiding citizens.

    -=Thumper=-
    Sysop
    The Wastelands BBS

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sun Apr 21 22:09:36 2019
    Re: Re: Gun Grabbers
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to THUMPER on Tue Apr 16 2019 12:16 pm

    I just thought of something I should have thought of before...

    When someone mentions people driving on sidewalks, I should
    ask why someone would do that? Doesn't that mean they are
    wanting to cause havoc, and it's NOT just because they
    don't have a license?



    there's a lot of youtube videos of black kids driving crazy, swerving and then driving on sidewalks. because that's a cool thing to do.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Mon Apr 22 11:00:00 2019
    Re: Re: Gun Grabbers
    By: MRO to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sun Apr 21 2019 10:09 pm

    Re: Re: Gun Grabbers
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to THUMPER on Tue Apr 16 2019 12:16 pm

    I just thought of something I should have thought of before...

    When someone mentions people driving on sidewalks, I should
    ask why someone would do that? Doesn't that mean they are
    wanting to cause havoc, and it's NOT just because they
    don't have a license?



    there's a lot of youtube videos of black kids driving crazy, swerving and th driving on sidewalks. because that's a cool thing to do.

    I never imagined reckless driving would become a "cool" thing to do

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Mon Apr 22 12:41:05 2019
    Re: Re: Gun Grabbers
    By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Apr 22 2019 11:00 am

    there's a lot of youtube videos of black kids driving crazy, swerving and th driving on sidewalks. because that's a cool thing to do.

    I never imagined reckless driving would become a "cool" thing to do


    kids are stupid.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to JIMMY ANDERSON on Fri Apr 26 17:26:59 2019
    Re: Re: Gun Grabbers
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to THUMPER on Tue Apr 16 2019 12:16 pm

    I just thought of something I should have thought of before...



    post on bottom please
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