• New 20 gauge??

    From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to All on Sat Sep 21 16:48:52 2019
    So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the Mossburg. Who else makes an affordable 20 guage semi?

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to HusTler on Sun Sep 22 15:40:00 2019
    Re: New 20 gauge??
    By: HusTler to All on Sat Sep 21 2019 04:48 pm

    So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the Mossburg. Who

    At Rural King I saw a Charles Daly semi auto that was cheaper than anythinh el se. Not sure who makes them, since but nowadays they're a brand name only that's owned by Chiappa in Italy. If I had to guess they're made by Akkar in Instanbul, Turkey. Chiappa has been importing their shotguns for awhile

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Moondog on Sun Sep 22 19:49:07 2019
    Re: New 20 gauge??
    By: Moondog to HusTler on Sun Sep 22 2019 03:40 pm

    So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the Mossburg. Who
    At Rural King I saw a Charles Daly semi auto that was cheaper than anythinh el se. Not sure who makes them, since but nowadays they're a brand name

    Thanks. The last shotgun I purched was the Remington 1100 so I'm outa touch with todays brands.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to HusTler on Mon Sep 23 06:55:00 2019
    HusTler wrote to Moondog <=-

    So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the Mossburg. Who
    At Rural King I saw a Charles Daly semi auto that was cheaper than anythinh el se. Not sure who makes them, since but nowadays they're a brand name

    Thanks. The last shotgun I purched was the Remington 1100 so
    I'm outa touch with todays brands.

    Firearms brands really haven't changed much in recent decades.

    Cheapest may not be what you want. You get what you pay for.



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  • From echto@VERT/ECHTOBBS to HusTler on Mon Sep 23 07:31:44 2019
    Re: New 20 gauge??
    By: HusTler to All on Sat Sep 21 2019 04:48 pm

    So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the Mossburg. Who else makes an affordable 20 guage semi?

    Hmmm. I don't know. Mossberg for me. The 930 SPX is a little spendy and I'm sure there are cheaper alternatives out there. I wasn't looking to buy a semi shotgun when I stumbled upon it. I ended up walking out with two firearms that day. :)

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  • From echto@VERT/ECHTOBBS to Gamgee on Mon Sep 23 07:36:02 2019
    Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
    By: Gamgee to HusTler on Mon Sep 23 2019 06:55 am

    HusTler wrote to Moondog <=-

    So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the Mossburg. Who
    At Rural King I saw a Charles Daly semi auto that was cheaper than anythinh el se. Not sure who makes them, since but nowadays they're a brand name

    Thanks. The last shotgun I purched was the Remington 1100 so
    I'm outa touch with todays brands.

    Firearms brands really haven't changed much in recent decades.

    Cheapest may not be what you want. You get what you pay for.

    Yeah, when it comes to something going bang in your hand you might now want the cheapest.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to echto on Mon Sep 23 14:10:23 2019
    Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
    By: echto to Gamgee on Mon Sep 23 2019 07:36 am

    So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the
    At Rural King I saw a Charles Daly semi auto that was cheaper than
    Thanks. The last shotgun I purched was the Remington 1100 so
    I'm outa touch with todays brands.

    Firearms brands really haven't changed much in recent decades.
    Cheapest may not be what you want. You get what you pay for.
    Yeah, when it comes to something going bang in your hand you might now want the cheapest.

    Let me rephrase my question. If I purchased a "cheap" semi or pump shotgun could it handle 100 rounds of trap shooting occasionally?

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to HusTler on Mon Sep 23 14:18:00 2019
    Re: New 20 gauge??
    By: HusTler to Moondog on Sun Sep 22 2019 07:49 pm

    Re: New 20 gauge??
    By: Moondog to HusTler on Sun Sep 22 2019 03:40 pm

    So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the Mossburg Who
    At Rural King I saw a Charles Daly semi auto that was cheaper than anythi el se. Not sure who makes them, since but nowadays they're a brand name

    Thanks. The last shotgun I purched was the Remington 1100 so I'm outa touc

    Remington isn't what t used to be. After the Cerberus /Freedom holdings
    buyout in 2007, they among the other brands purchased began to drop in quality.
    Remington claims they did some major retooling in their New York plant as
    well as their Alabama facility, however I haven't heard any newer reviews

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to echto on Mon Sep 23 14:29:00 2019
    Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
    By: echto to Gamgee on Mon Sep 23 2019 07:36 am

    Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
    By: Gamgee to HusTler on Mon Sep 23 2019 06:55 am

    HusTler wrote to Moondog <=-

    So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the Mossburg. Who
    At Rural King I saw a Charles Daly semi auto that was cheaper than anythinh el se. Not sure who makes them, since but nowadays they're brand name

    Thanks. The last shotgun I purched was the Remington 1100 so
    I'm outa touch with todays brands.

    Firearms brands really haven't changed much in recent decades.

    Cheapest may not be what you want. You get what you pay for.

    Yeah, when it comes to something going bang in your hand you might now want

    Depends on how reliably and how often you want it to go bang. It's like
    buying power tools. If you relied on your tools to make a living, would you buy a Makita or Milwaukee, or would you buy the cheapest item at Harbor Freight?

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  • From echto@VERT/ECHTOBBS to HusTler on Mon Sep 23 14:54:33 2019
    Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
    By: HusTler to echto on Mon Sep 23 2019 02:10 pm

    Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
    By: echto to Gamgee on Mon Sep 23 2019 07:36 am

    So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the
    At Rural King I saw a Charles Daly semi auto that was cheaper than
    Thanks. The last shotgun I purched was the Remington 1100 so I'm outa touch with todays brands.

    Firearms brands really haven't changed much in recent decades. Cheapest may not be what you want. You get what you pay for.
    Yeah, when it comes to something going bang in your hand you might now want the cheapest.

    Let me rephrase my question. If I purchased a "cheap" semi or pump shotgun could it handle 100 rounds of trap shooting occasionally?

    I don't see why not. I would definitely research a brand you are interested in buying first just to make sure.

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  • From echto@VERT/ECHTOBBS to Moondog on Mon Sep 23 14:58:02 2019
    Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
    By: Moondog to echto on Mon Sep 23 2019 02:29 pm

    Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
    By: echto to Gamgee on Mon Sep 23 2019 07:36 am

    Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
    By: Gamgee to HusTler on Mon Sep 23 2019 06:55 am

    HusTler wrote to Moondog <=-

    So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the Mossburg. Who
    At Rural King I saw a Charles Daly semi auto that was cheaper than anythinh el se. Not sure who makes them, since but nowadays they're brand name

    Thanks. The last shotgun I purched was the Remington 1100 so I'm outa touch with todays brands.

    Firearms brands really haven't changed much in recent decades.

    Cheapest may not be what you want. You get what you pay for.

    Yeah, when it comes to something going bang in your hand you might now want

    Depends on how reliably and how often you want it to go bang. It's like buying power tools. If you relied on your tools to make a living, would you buy a Makita or Milwaukee, or would you buy the cheapest item at Harbor Freight?

    I love the Harbor Freight analogy. Gets the point across everytime. :)

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  • From Arelor@VERT to echto on Mon Sep 23 17:46:55 2019
    Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
    By: echto to Gamgee on Mon Sep 23 2019 07:36 am

    Cheapest may not be what you want. You get what you pay for.

    Yeah, when it comes to something going bang in your hand you might now want the cheapest.


    I agree with the general idea, but on the other hand higher price does not automatically mean higher quality.

    My father has one of those cop show Berettas, I think it is one of those worth 900-1000 USD. It is not bad but my father has more malfunctions during competitions than me with that one.

    I have a "piece of junk" revolver from an obscure manufacturer that went bankrupt 30 years ago. The guy who sold it to me told me: "Its only good to put gypsy horse thieves on their knees and execute them point blank in the forest. If you hit anything at 25 meters with it you can consider yourself lucky". That thing costed me less than 200 bucks and only failed me once in a competition. The drum got stuck while reloading due to the heat so I had to close it by hitting it harder. I would not want to spend five seconds hitting the drum closed during a gunfight, but I am still getting better downtime that people with expensive guns.

    Spend smart, not hard.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to HusTler on Mon Sep 23 21:45:00 2019
    Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
    By: HusTler to echto on Mon Sep 23 2019 02:10 pm

    Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
    By: echto to Gamgee on Mon Sep 23 2019 07:36 am

    So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the
    At Rural King I saw a Charles Daly semi auto that was cheaper than
    Thanks. The last shotgun I purched was the Remington 1100 so I'm outa touch with todays brands.

    Firearms brands really haven't changed much in recent decades. Cheapest may not be what you want. You get what you pay for.
    Yeah, when it comes to something going bang in your hand you might now wa the cheapest.

    Let me rephrase my question. If I purchased a "cheap" semi or pump shotgun

    I'm sure it would. If you were to compete or shoot 3 gin or multi-gun competitively, I'd spend the extra $$ and get a Benelli

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Tue Sep 24 10:52:00 2019
    Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
    By: Arelor to echto on Mon Sep 23 2019 05:46 pm

    Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
    By: echto to Gamgee on Mon Sep 23 2019 07:36 am

    Cheapest may not be what you want. You get what you pay for.

    Yeah, when it comes to something going bang in your hand you might now wa the cheapest.


    I agree with the general idea, but on the other hand higher price does not a

    My father has one of those cop show Berettas, I think it is one of those wor

    I have a "piece of junk" revolver from an obscure manufacturer that went ban t 25 meters with it you can consider yourself lucky". That thing costed me l nd five seconds hitting the drum closed during a gunfight, but I am still ge

    Spend smart, not hard.

    Price is not always a factor, however good engineering and good materials and proper heat treating go a long way. While I'm not a dealer or have an FFL, I do have access to manufacturer events held by wholesellers. There were some brands I wouldn't have touched due to their price range, however after
    shooting several firearms by Barrett, Sig, CZ, STI, Salient and Thompson
    Center to name a few, and talk to their sales people and engineers, I realize why some brands and models have popular appeal. When money is tight, you
    have to pick and choose wisely. I'm trying to talk one of my dealer friends into having another range event. He has a couple of Taran Tactical STI
    Combat Masters on order. The John Wick series is great for product
    placement.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Moondog on Thu Sep 26 07:48:34 2019
    Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
    By: Moondog to HusTler on Mon Sep 23 2019 09:45 pm

    Let me rephrase my question. If I purchased a "cheap" semi or pump shotgun

    I'm sure it would. If you were to compete or shoot 3 gin or multi-gun competitively, I'd spend the extra $$ and get a Benelli

    Benelli!!!?? Good God man. How do you go from cheapest to a Benelli?? :-)

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to HusTler on Thu Sep 26 13:09:00 2019
    Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
    By: HusTler to Moondog on Thu Sep 26 2019 07:48 am

    Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
    By: Moondog to HusTler on Mon Sep 23 2019 09:45 pm

    Let me rephrase my question. If I purchased a "cheap" semi or pump shotgun

    I'm sure it would. If you were to compete or shoot 3 gin or multi-gun competitively, I'd spend the extra $$ and get a Benelli

    Benelli!!!?? Good God man. How do you go from cheapest to a Benelli?? :


    As stated, if you want to compete and run your gear hard and expect it to go bang, I'd choose a Benelli over a Mossberg or Remington. At least I didn't mention Salient's Benelli package. Feels strange handling a $3400 USD
    shotgun, and told by the sales rep to not worry about hurting it.

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