• Re: What is Linux?

    From _-=5T4T1C PuL53=-_@VERT to Corey on Sun Jul 10 20:09:00 2016
    And don't forget yor tux....

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A27 (Windows)
    * Origin: flupH | fluph.darktech.org
  • From Vk3jed@VERT to _-=5T4T1C PuL53=-_ on Mon Jul 11 10:36:00 2016
    _-=5T4T1C PuL53=-_ wrote to Corey <=-

    And don't forget yor tux....

    Got one sitting on the window sill! :D


    ... Heads will have to roll!
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    Synchronet Freeway BBS in Bendigo, Australia.
  • From Deavmi@VERT to Vk3jed on Sat Nov 19 20:19:08 2016
    On 2016-07-11 02:36 AM, Vk3jed wrote:
    _-=5T4T1C PuL53=-_ wrote to Corey <=-

    And don't forget yor tux....

    Got one sitting on the window sill! :D


    ... Heads will have to roll!
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    � Synchronet � Freeway BBS in Bendigo, Australia.

    Linux is the kernel and GNU are system utilities to go with Linux to
    make a useful system that we know as GNU/Linux.

    ---
    Synchronet Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet://bbs.ewbbs.net
  • From Vk3jed@VERT to Deavmi on Sun Nov 20 15:07:00 2016
    Deavmi wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Linux is the kernel and GNU are system utilities to go with Linux to
    make a useful system that we know as GNU/Linux.

    True, both go together to make a complete system.


    ... Use it up.Wear it out. Make it do Or do without.
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    Synchronet Freeway BBS in Bendigo, Australia.
  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to Vk3jed on Mon Nov 21 15:42:34 2016
    On 2016-11-20 07:07 AM, Vk3jed wrote:
    Deavmi wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Linux is the kernel and GNU are system utilities to go with Linux to make a useful system that we know as GNU/Linux.

    True, both go together to make a complete system.


    ... Use it up.Wear it out. Make it do Or do without.
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    � Synchronet � Freeway BBS in Bendigo, Australia.

    However there are examples where say now a toaster can use the Linux
    kernel (as the toaster company does not want to write their own kernel,
    time and money reasons) therefore they use Linux but might not
    necessarily use GNU as they might use their own utilities or a mix of
    both. Then you might even have GNU/Linux/ToasterUtils.

    ---
    Synchronet Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet://bbs.ewbbs.net
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Deavmi on Tue Nov 22 06:56:00 2016
    Deavmi wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    However there are examples where say now a toaster can use the Linux kernel (as the toaster company does not want to write their own kernel, time and money reasons) therefore they use Linux but might not
    necessarily use GNU as they might use their own utilities or a mix of both. Then you might even have GNU/Linux/ToasterUtils.

    True, that is entirely possible, but for general purpose systems, have you seen a Linux based system without GNU?


    ... One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions.
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    Synchronet Freeway BBS in Bendigo, Australia.
  • From mark firestone@VERT/QBBS to DEAVMI on Thu Nov 24 14:51:00 2016
    --- DEAVMI wrote --
    However there are examples where say now a toaster can use the Linux
    kernel (as the toaster company does not want to write their own kernel,
    time and money reasons) therefore they use Linux but might not
    necessarily use GNU as they might use their own utilities or a mix of
    both. Then you might even have GNU/Linux/ToasterUtils

    That's how you end up with artificially intellegent talking toasters with feelings. Is that what you want? Because that, is what you will get.



    ---
    * TARDIS BBS - Home of QUARKware * telnet bbs.cortex-media.info
  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Deavmi on Thu Nov 24 10:15:04 2016
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Deavmi to Vk3jed on Mon Nov 21 2016 03:42 pm

    Then you might even have GNU/Linux/ToasterUtils.

    Just don't call it linux/ToasterUtils/GNU or Stallman might write a web page about your product.

    ---
    Synchronet realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to mark firestone on Fri Nov 25 17:45:23 2016
    On 2016-11-24 04:51 PM, mark firestone wrote:
    --- DEAVMI wrote --
    However there are examples where say now a toaster can use the Linux
    kernel (as the toaster company does not want to write their own kernel,
    time and money reasons) therefore they use Linux but might not
    necessarily use GNU as they might use their own utilities or a mix of
    both. Then you might even have GNU/Linux/ToasterUtils

    That's how you end up with artificially intellegent talking toasters with feelings. Is that what you want? Because that, is what you will get.



    ---
    * TARDIS BBS - Home of QUARKware * telnet bbs.cortex-media.info

    Not really. Could be cool XD

    ---
    Synchronet Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet://bbs.ewbbs.net
  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to Poindexter Fortran on Fri Nov 25 17:47:02 2016
    On 2016-11-24 08:15 PM, Poindexter Fortran wrote:
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Deavmi to Vk3jed on Mon Nov 21 2016 03:42 pm

    Then you might even have GNU/Linux/ToasterUtils.

    Just don't call it linux/ToasterUtils/GNU or Stallman might write a web page about your product.

    ---
    � Synchronet � realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org

    Lol. Even though the ordering could be used for prominence of the sets
    of tools in the end product. Not prominence maybe but quantity, either or.

    ---
    Synchronet Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet://bbs.ewbbs.net
  • From Chris@VERT/DMINE to mark firestone on Fri Nov 25 18:48:52 2016
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: mark firestone to DEAVMI on Thu Nov 24 2016 02:51 pm

    That's how you end up with artificially intellegent talking toasters with feelings. Is that what you want? Because that, is what you will get.


    You hit the nail on the head. I can't get my overly sensitive linux toaster to shut the hell up.

    ;-)

    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    CDP
    The Diamond Mine BBS - telnet://bbs.dmine.net
    The Retro Room - http://forums.delphiforums.com/retroroom ------------------------------------------------------------------

    ---
    Synchronet Diamond Mine Online - bbs.dmine.net - Fredericksburg, VA USA
  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to Chris on Sat Nov 26 11:19:12 2016
    On 2016-11-26 01:48 AM, Chris wrote:
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: mark firestone to DEAVMI on Thu Nov 24 2016 02:51 pm

    That's how you end up with artificially intellegent talking toasters with feelings. Is that what you want? Because that, is what you will get.


    You hit the nail on the head. I can't get my overly sensitive linux toaster to
    shut the hell up.

    ;-)

    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    CDP
    The Diamond Mine BBS - telnet://bbs.dmine.net
    The Retro Room - http://forums.delphiforums.com/retroroom ------------------------------------------------------------------

    ---
    � Synchronet � Diamond Mine Online - bbs.dmine.net - Fredericksburg, VA USA

    Lol. I am not really an IoT person. I do like it if I could build it
    myself but for small things, not massive dependence on technology. That
    is where humanity will fail (or have we already in the eyes of our
    ancestors). For me being overly dependent on technology would be bad.
    Idk though. The human condition is complicated and hard to avoid.

    ---
    Synchronet Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet://bbs.ewbbs.net
  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to Deavmi on Sun Nov 27 08:08:00 2016
    Deavmi wrote to Chris <=-

    Lol. I am not really an IoT person. I do like it if I could build it myself but for small things, not massive dependence on technology. That
    is where humanity will fail (or have we already in the eyes of our ancestors). For me being overly dependent on technology would be bad.
    Idk though. The human condition is complicated and hard to avoid.

    Yeah, I haven't really felt a need to get into IoT yet. Some things are still best handled the old fashioned way. :)


    ... Never assume the obvious is true!
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    Synchronet Freeway BBS in Bendigo, Australia.
  • From Poindexter Fortran@VERT/REALITY to Chris on Sat Nov 26 13:23:00 2016
    Chris wrote to mark firestone <=-

    You hit the nail on the head. I can't get my overly sensitive linux toaster to shut the hell up.

    I tried to make French toast in mine and now it sits in the corner,
    sulking.



    ... "I speak to machines with the voice of Humanity..."
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    Synchronet realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org
  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to Poindexter Fortran on Sun Nov 27 07:26:45 2016
    On 2016-11-26 11:23 PM, Poindexter Fortran wrote:
    Chris wrote to mark firestone <=-

    You hit the nail on the head. I can't get my overly sensitive linux toaster to shut the hell up.

    I tried to make French toast in mine and now it sits in the corner,
    sulking.



    ... "I speak to machines with the voice of Humanity..."
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
    � Synchronet � realitycheckBBS -- http://realitycheckBBS.org

    Why? :)

    ---
    Synchronet Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet://bbs.ewbbs.net
  • From Chris@VERT/DMINE to Deavmi on Sun Nov 27 23:17:52 2016
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Deavmi to Chris on Sat Nov 26 2016 11:19 am

    Lol. I am not really an IoT person. I do like it if I could build it
    myself but for small things, not massive dependence on technology. That
    is where humanity will fail (or have we already in the eyes of our ancestors). For me being overly dependent on technology would be bad.
    Idk though. The human condition is complicated and hard to avoid.

    While I'm far from a technophobe, I'm a firm believer in the idea that as our devices get smarted we get dumber. A lot dumber.

    At the very least I think we're getting the attention span of cats.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    CDP
    The Diamond Mine BBS - telnet://bbs.dmine.net
    The Retro Room - http://forums.delphiforums.com/retroroom ------------------------------------------------------------------

    ---
    Synchronet Diamond Mine Online - bbs.dmine.net - Fredericksburg, VA USA
  • From Chris@VERT/DMINE to Poindexter Fortran on Sun Nov 27 23:19:22 2016
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Poindexter Fortran to Chris on Sat Nov 26 2016 01:23 pm

    Chris wrote to mark firestone <=-

    You hit the nail on the head. I can't get my overly sensitive linux toaster to shut the hell up.

    I tried to make French toast in mine and now it sits in the corner,
    sulking.



    ... "I speak to machines with the voice of Humanity..."

    Tell it to man up. A little hard work and creativity never hurt anyone lol.


    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    CDP
    The Diamond Mine BBS - telnet://bbs.dmine.net
    The Retro Room - http://forums.delphiforums.com/retroroom ------------------------------------------------------------------

    ---
    Synchronet Diamond Mine Online - bbs.dmine.net - Fredericksburg, VA USA
  • From Chris@VERT/DMINE to Deavmi on Sun Nov 27 23:22:13 2016
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Chris to Deavmi on Sun Nov 27 2016 11:17 pm

    While I'm far from a technophobe, I'm a firm believer in the idea that as ou devices get smarted we get dumber. A lot dumber.
    -------
    And to drive that point home, I managed to misspell smarteR above.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    CDP
    The Diamond Mine BBS - telnet://bbs.dmine.net
    The Retro Room - http://forums.delphiforums.com/retroroom ------------------------------------------------------------------

    ---
    Synchronet Diamond Mine Online - bbs.dmine.net - Fredericksburg, VA USA
  • From kk4qbn@VERT/KK4QBN to Chris on Mon Nov 28 08:36:42 2016
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Chris to Deavmi on Sun Nov 27 2016 11:17 pm

    While I'm far from a technophobe, I'm a firm believer in the idea that as our devices get smarted we get dumber. A lot dumber.

    I agree, at least for 90% of the people who have access to these products. Had a lady just bow up and stop in front of me on a four lane road the other day, and she was in the "fast" lane. I finally got into the right line when I was able to get over, glanced over to make sure she was'nt stroking out or something, she was answering her damn cell phone. the stupidity amazes me.. they say people drive bad in LA, nah... come to Dalton GA.. we have some idiots.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    Synchronet KK4QBN BBS -
  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to Chris on Mon Nov 28 20:15:06 2016
    On 2016-11-28 06:17 AM, Chris wrote:
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Deavmi to Chris on Sat Nov 26 2016 11:19 am

    Lol. I am not really an IoT person. I do like it if I could build it myself but for small things, not massive dependence on technology. That
    is where humanity will fail (or have we already in the eyes of our ancestors). For me being overly dependent on technology would be bad.
    Idk though. The human condition is complicated and hard to avoid.

    While I'm far from a technophobe, I'm a firm believer in the idea that as our devices get smarted we get dumber. A lot dumber.

    At the very least I think we're getting the attention span of cats.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    CDP
    The Diamond Mine BBS - telnet://bbs.dmine.net
    The Retro Room - http://forums.delphiforums.com/retroroom ------------------------------------------------------------------

    ---
    � Synchronet � Diamond Mine Online - bbs.dmine.net - Fredericksburg, VA USA

    We are getting dumb. That's why I avoid this shit. I want to run my
    life, not have an algorithm run it.

    ---
    Synchronet Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet://bbs.ewbbs.net
  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to Chris on Mon Nov 28 20:15:21 2016
    On 2016-11-28 06:22 AM, Chris wrote:
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Chris to Deavmi on Sun Nov 27 2016 11:17 pm

    While I'm far from a technophobe, I'm a firm believer in the idea that as ou
    devices get smarted we get dumber. A lot dumber.
    -------
    And to drive that point home, I managed to misspell smarteR above.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    CDP
    The Diamond Mine BBS - telnet://bbs.dmine.net
    The Retro Room - http://forums.delphiforums.com/retroroom ------------------------------------------------------------------

    ---
    � Synchronet � Diamond Mine Online - bbs.dmine.net - Fredericksburg, VA USA

    Get the spell check IoT out.

    ---
    Synchronet Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet://bbs.ewbbs.net
  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to kk4qbn on Mon Nov 28 20:16:33 2016
    On 2016-11-28 03:36 PM, kk4qbn wrote:
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Chris to Deavmi on Sun Nov 27 2016 11:17 pm

    While I'm far from a technophobe, I'm a firm believer in the idea that as
    our devices get smarted we get dumber. A lot dumber.

    I agree, at least for 90% of the people who have access to these products. Had
    a lady just bow up and stop in front of me on a four lane road the other day, and she was in the "fast" lane. I finally got into the right line when I was able to get over, glanced over to make sure she was'nt stroking out or something, she was answering her damn cell phone. the stupidity amazes me.. they say people drive bad in LA, nah... come to Dalton GA.. we have some idiots.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    � Synchronet � KK4QBN BBS - (706)422-9538 - kk4qbn.synchro.net, Chatsworth GA US

    Come to Cape Town, we have people who are drunk, drugged up or somehow
    bribed the traffic department. They can't drive. Cape Townians, worst
    drivers ever, dumb as fuck.

    ---
    Synchronet Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet://bbs.ewbbs.net
  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Deavmi on Mon Nov 28 16:33:11 2016
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Deavmi to Chris on Mon Nov 28 2016 08:15 pm

    VA USA

    We are getting dumb. That's why I avoid this shit. I want to run my
    life, not have an algorithm run it.



    are people becoming more dumb, or are we just being dumb in new ways, and these ways stick out like a sore thumb because they arent the usual.
    ---
    Synchronet ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to Mro on Tue Nov 29 18:12:30 2016
    On 2016-11-29 12:33 AM, Mro wrote:
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Deavmi to Chris on Mon Nov 28 2016 08:15 pm

    VA USA

    We are getting dumb. That's why I avoid this shit. I want to run my
    life, not have an algorithm run it.



    are people becoming more dumb, or are we just being dumb in new ways, and these
    ways stick out like a sore thumb because they arent the usual.
    ---
    � Synchronet � ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::

    Well we do have calculators, so maybe we are dumb again. Idk. Is it a
    constant ratio maybe? Like when IoT becomes a big part of our life then
    maybe there will be something that we have to do to run our lives or not
    be lazy or maybe dumb? Like how when computers came to the market. It destroyed many jobs but created many as well - see what I am getting at
    here?

    ---
    Synchronet Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet://bbs.ewbbs.net
  • From Chris@VERT/DMINE to Deavmi on Wed Nov 30 00:30:00 2016
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Deavmi to Chris on Mon Nov 28 2016 08:15 pm

    We are getting dumb. That's why I avoid this shit. I want to run my
    life, not have an algorithm run it.


    I can understand it. I actually don't hate the technology. In many ways I've seen a lot of boyhood wishes fulfilled when E-Readers and digital music options came along (yeah, as a kid I wasn't asking for all that much in hindsight). The fact that some perfectly good older technology and more importantly, physical media is getting pushed out as a result gives me mixed feelings.

    That said, it's what we as a society do with the technology is what burns my ass. Just with cellphones alone, it's become acceptable to behave like complete idiots, when just a few years ago people wouldn't think of acting that way.

    Plus social media makes us act bolder than we really are, but I guess that's a topic for another day.


    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    CDP
    The Diamond Mine BBS - telnet://bbs.dmine.net
    The Retro Room - http://forums.delphiforums.com/retroroom ------------------------------------------------------------------

    ---
    Synchronet Diamond Mine Online - bbs.dmine.net - Fredericksburg, VA USA
  • From Chris@VERT/DMINE to Mro on Wed Nov 30 00:31:00 2016
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Mro to Deavmi on Mon Nov 28 2016 04:33 pm

    are people becoming more dumb, or are we just being dumb in new ways, and th ways stick out like a sore thumb because they arent the usual.

    Leave it to us to combine stupidity and innovation in such a fashion lol.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    CDP
    The Diamond Mine BBS - telnet://bbs.dmine.net
    The Retro Room - http://forums.delphiforums.com/retroroom ------------------------------------------------------------------

    ---
    Synchronet Diamond Mine Online - bbs.dmine.net - Fredericksburg, VA USA
  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to Chris on Wed Nov 30 13:48:31 2016
    On 2016-11-30 07:31 AM, Chris wrote:
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Mro to Deavmi on Mon Nov 28 2016 04:33 pm

    are people becoming more dumb, or are we just being dumb in new ways, and th
    ways stick out like a sore thumb because they arent the usual.

    Leave it to us to combine stupidity and innovation in such a fashion lol.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    CDP
    The Diamond Mine BBS - telnet://bbs.dmine.net
    The Retro Room - http://forums.delphiforums.com/retroroom ------------------------------------------------------------------

    ---
    � Synchronet � Diamond Mine Online - bbs.dmine.net - Fredericksburg, VA USA

    I guess so. Computers have made us stupid but hey some become smarter
    with it, because research is easier and there are now jobs in the hard thinking world of computing.

    ---
    Synchronet Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet://bbs.ewbbs.net
  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to Chris on Wed Nov 30 13:49:57 2016
    On 2016-11-30 07:30 AM, Chris wrote:
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Deavmi to Chris on Mon Nov 28 2016 08:15 pm

    We are getting dumb. That's why I avoid this shit. I want to run my
    life, not have an algorithm run it.


    I can understand it. I actually don't hate the technology. In many ways I've seen a lot of boyhood wishes fulfilled when E-Readers and digital music options
    came along (yeah, as a kid I wasn't asking for all that much in hindsight). The fact that some perfectly good older technology and more importantly, physical media is getting pushed out as a result gives me mixed feelings.

    That said, it's what we as a society do with the technology is what burns my ass. Just with cellphones alone, it's become acceptable to behave like complete
    idiots, when just a few years ago people wouldn't think of acting that way.

    Plus social media makes us act bolder than we really are, but I guess that's a
    topic for another day.


    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    CDP
    The Diamond Mine BBS - telnet://bbs.dmine.net
    The Retro Room - http://forums.delphiforums.com/retroroom ------------------------------------------------------------------

    ---
    � Synchronet � Diamond Mine Online - bbs.dmine.net - Fredericksburg, VA USA

    I like CD's. Just so good. Burn a CD with an ISO for booting. Great.
    Disc can be labelled so easily. Love em'. Hard wearing to unlike a flash
    drive which can break easily when compared to a disc (maybe not so much
    BUT they are cheaper to replace).

    ---
    Synchronet Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet://bbs.ewbbs.net
  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to Chris on Wed Nov 30 13:50:36 2016
    On 2016-11-30 07:30 AM, Chris wrote:
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Deavmi to Chris on Mon Nov 28 2016 08:15 pm

    We are getting dumb. That's why I avoid this shit. I want to run my
    life, not have an algorithm run it.


    I can understand it. I actually don't hate the technology. In many ways I've seen a lot of boyhood wishes fulfilled when E-Readers and digital music options
    came along (yeah, as a kid I wasn't asking for all that much in hindsight). The fact that some perfectly good older technology and more importantly, physical media is getting pushed out as a result gives me mixed feelings.

    That said, it's what we as a society do with the technology is what burns my ass. Just with cellphones alone, it's become acceptable to behave like complete
    idiots, when just a few years ago people wouldn't think of acting that way.

    Plus social media makes us act bolder than we really are, but I guess that's a
    topic for another day.


    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    CDP
    The Diamond Mine BBS - telnet://bbs.dmine.net
    The Retro Room - http://forums.delphiforums.com/retroroom ------------------------------------------------------------------

    ---
    � Synchronet � Diamond Mine Online - bbs.dmine.net - Fredericksburg, VA USA



    "Plus social media makes us act bolder than we really are, but I guess
    that's a
    topic for another day. "

    I guess so. Start a new post maybe?

    ---
    Synchronet Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet://bbs.ewbbs.net
  • From Gruven@VERT to Deavmi on Wed Nov 30 21:17:20 2016
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Deavmi to Chris on Wed Nov 30 2016 01:49 pm


    I like CD's. Just so good. Burn a CD with an ISO for booting. Great.
    Disc can be labelled so easily. Love em'. Hard wearing to unlike a flash drive which can break easily when compared to a disc (maybe not so much
    BUT they are cheaper to replace).

    That is if you have computers that can actually read/have a CD drive :-(
    Can't say I'm happy about that trend


    Gruven Reuven | Bala Cynwyd PA | Visulize Whirled Peas
    ---
    Synchronet Vertrauen Home of Synchronet telnet://vert.synchro.net
  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to Gruven on Thu Dec 1 21:07:47 2016
    On 2016-12-01 07:17 AM, Gruven wrote:
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Deavmi to Chris on Wed Nov 30 2016 01:49 pm


    I like CD's. Just so good. Burn a CD with an ISO for booting. Great.
    Disc can be labelled so easily. Love em'. Hard wearing to unlike a flash drive which can break easily when compared to a disc (maybe not so much BUT they are cheaper to replace).

    That is if you have computers that can actually read/have a CD drive :-( Can't say I'm happy about that trend


    Gruven Reuven | Bala Cynwyd PA | Visulize Whirled Peas

    ---
    � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet � telnet://vert.synchro.net

    Yeah. I have a CD reader and writer.

    ---
    Synchronet Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet://bbs.ewbbs.net
  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to Deavmi on Thu Dec 1 21:08:08 2016
    On 2016-12-01 09:07 PM, Deavmi wrote:
    On 2016-12-01 07:17 AM, Gruven wrote:
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Deavmi to Chris on Wed Nov 30 2016 01:49 pm


    I like CD's. Just so good. Burn a CD with an ISO for booting. Great.
    Disc can be labelled so easily. Love em'. Hard wearing to unlike a
    flash
    drive which can break easily when compared to a disc (maybe not so
    much
    BUT they are cheaper to replace).

    That is if you have computers that can actually read/have a CD drive :-(
    Can't say I'm happy about that trend


    Gruven Reuven | Bala Cynwyd PA | Visulize Whirled Peas

    ---
    � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet �
    telnet://vert.synchro.net

    Yeah. I have a CD reader and writer.
    Good old SATA CD/DVD drive.

    ---
    Synchronet Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet://bbs.ewbbs.net
  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Deavmi on Thu Dec 1 17:51:33 2016
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Deavmi to Chris on Wed Nov 30 2016 01:49 pm

    I like CD's. Just so good. Burn a CD with an ISO for booting. Great.
    Disc can be labelled so easily. Love em'. Hard wearing to unlike a flash drive which can break easily when compared to a disc (maybe not so much
    BUT they are cheaper to replace).


    cds get cd rot. i like flash disks for installing oses. so easy and beats using a cd or a dvd.

    i threw out all my cds and dvds and store stuff on old harddrives with redundant backups.
    ---
    Synchronet ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Chris@VERT/DMINE to Deavmi on Thu Dec 1 22:20:34 2016
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Deavmi to Chris on Wed Nov 30 2016 01:48 pm

    I guess so. Computers have made us stupid but hey some become smarter
    with it, because research is easier and there are now jobs in the hard thinking world of computing.


    Computers help us in that they put so much information at our fingertips, so there is a lot of potential there that we could only dream of when I was a youngin.

    The downside is, they put SOOO much information at our fingertips. So much that we don't know how to handle it all and end up giving up, or switching to porn (from what I've heard...).

    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    CDP
    The Diamond Mine BBS - telnet://bbs.dmine.net
    The Retro Room - http://forums.delphiforums.com/retroroom ------------------------------------------------------------------

    ---
    Synchronet Diamond Mine Online - bbs.dmine.net - Fredericksburg, VA USA
  • From Chris@VERT/DMINE to Deavmi on Thu Dec 1 22:28:53 2016
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Deavmi to Chris on Wed Nov 30 2016 01:49 pm

    I like CD's. Just so good. Burn a CD with an ISO for booting. Great.
    Disc can be labelled so easily. Love em'. Hard wearing to unlike a flash drive which can break easily when compared to a disc (maybe not so much
    BUT they are cheaper to replace).


    I was thinking more about music, but it actually applies to software packages. I like having the physical package to handle (gawd that sounds bad). Being able to stream, download and/or install stuff to USB is a great convenience. In terms of music I feel like going MP3 or streaming only removes us from the experience in some way.

    I know it makes me sound old fashioned (I am in some ways), but there was always something about buying an album or cd and reading the lyric booklet and credits and physically playing it on a turntable or cd player. Not sure how to describe it, but I felt more connected to the product when it was something more physical and tangible.

    It's a similar thing with software too. I remember buying boxed software including Linux distros such as Redhat and Mandrake back in the day. You could fairly easily (even then) get the same exact sofware either downloaded or purchased off of a cheap CD set, but I felt more invested in the boxed editions. Maybe it was just because I spent more money on it lol. But I do think there was a psychological difference in that experience for some of us.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    CDP
    The Diamond Mine BBS - telnet://bbs.dmine.net
    The Retro Room - http://forums.delphiforums.com/retroroom ------------------------------------------------------------------

    ---
    Synchronet Diamond Mine Online - bbs.dmine.net - Fredericksburg, VA USA
  • From Chris@VERT/DMINE to Deavmi on Thu Dec 1 22:30:35 2016
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Deavmi to Chris on Wed Nov 30 2016 01:50 pm


    "Plus social media makes us act bolder than we really are, but I guess that's a
    topic for another day. "

    I guess so. Start a new post maybe?

    Good idea :-)
    I'll have to remember to start a thread in the General Discussion section on how social media makes us 10 feet tall and 10 feet wide and bulletproof.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    CDP
    The Diamond Mine BBS - telnet://bbs.dmine.net
    The Retro Room - http://forums.delphiforums.com/retroroom ------------------------------------------------------------------

    ---
    Synchronet Diamond Mine Online - bbs.dmine.net - Fredericksburg, VA USA
  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to Chris on Fri Dec 2 16:42:10 2016
    On 2016-12-02 05:20 AM, Chris wrote:
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Deavmi to Chris on Wed Nov 30 2016 01:48 pm

    I guess so. Computers have made us stupid but hey some become smarter
    with it, because research is easier and there are now jobs in the hard thinking world of computing.


    Computers help us in that they put so much information at our fingertips, so there is a lot of potential there that we could only dream of when I was a youngin.

    The downside is, they put SOOO much information at our fingertips. So much that
    we don't know how to handle it all and end up giving up, or switching to porn (from what I've heard...).

    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    CDP
    The Diamond Mine BBS - telnet://bbs.dmine.net
    The Retro Room - http://forums.delphiforums.com/retroroom ------------------------------------------------------------------

    ---
    � Synchronet � Diamond Mine Online - bbs.dmine.net - Fredericksburg, VA USA

    Yep.

    ---
    Synchronet Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet://bbs.ewbbs.net
  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to Mro on Fri Dec 2 17:02:58 2016
    On 2016-12-02 01:51 AM, Mro wrote:
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Deavmi to Chris on Wed Nov 30 2016 01:49 pm

    I like CD's. Just so good. Burn a CD with an ISO for booting. Great.
    Disc can be labelled so easily. Love em'. Hard wearing to unlike a flash drive which can break easily when compared to a disc (maybe not so much BUT they are cheaper to replace).


    cds get cd rot. i like flash disks for installing oses. so easy and beats using a cd or a dvd.

    i threw out all my cds and dvds and store stuff on old harddrives with redundant backups.
    ---
    � Synchronet � ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::

    Well I mean. I will burn a disk regularly enough you know. I won't keep
    a disk with 10.04 LTS on it (or whatever the version is). So I can stay
    away from CD rot for that. I only use disks for ISOs.

    ---
    Synchronet Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet://bbs.ewbbs.net
  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to Chris on Fri Dec 2 17:03:39 2016
    On 2016-12-02 05:30 AM, Chris wrote:
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Deavmi to Chris on Wed Nov 30 2016 01:50 pm


    "Plus social media makes us act bolder than we really are, but I guess that's a
    topic for another day. "

    I guess so. Start a new post maybe?

    Good idea :-)
    I'll have to remember to start a thread in the General Discussion section on how social media makes us 10 feet tall and 10 feet wide and bulletproof.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    CDP
    The Diamond Mine BBS - telnet://bbs.dmine.net
    The Retro Room - http://forums.delphiforums.com/retroroom ------------------------------------------------------------------

    ---
    � Synchronet � Diamond Mine Online - bbs.dmine.net - Fredericksburg, VA USA

    Good description :)

    ---
    Synchronet Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet://bbs.ewbbs.net
  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Deavmi on Sat Dec 3 09:47:45 2016
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Deavmi to Mro on Fri Dec 02 2016 05:02 pm

    Well I mean. I will burn a disk regularly enough you know. I won't keep
    a disk with 10.04 LTS on it (or whatever the version is). So I can stay away from CD rot for that. I only use disks for ISOs.


    i lost some things i will never get back again because i trusted cds and dvds. ;[ i should have been smarter and backed up in multiple places like i do now. ---
    Synchronet ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to Mro on Sun Dec 4 07:48:58 2016
    On 2016-12-03 05:47 PM, Mro wrote:
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Deavmi to Mro on Fri Dec 02 2016 05:02 pm

    Well I mean. I will burn a disk regularly enough you know. I won't keep
    a disk with 10.04 LTS on it (or whatever the version is). So I can stay away from CD rot for that. I only use disks for ISOs.


    i lost some things i will never get back again because i trusted cds and dvds.
    ;[ i should have been smarter and backed up in multiple places like i do now. ---
    � Synchronet � ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::

    Good point. What did you use the CDs and DVDs for?

    ---
    Synchronet Electronic Warfare BBS | telnet://bbs.ewbbs.net
  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Deavmi on Tue Dec 6 16:26:12 2016
    Re: Re: What is Linux?
    By: Deavmi to Mro on Sun Dec 04 2016 07:48 am

    i lost some things i will never get back again because i trusted cds and dvds. ;[ i should have been smarter and backed up in multiple places like i do now. ---

    Good point. What did you use the CDs and DVDs for?

    i scanned old photos and i had some personal records.
    also backups of my computers.
    ---
    Synchronet ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::