• An Easy Way to Bootstrap Arch Linux

    From mr_chris@VERT/DECKHEVN to All on Fri Dec 16 15:00:01 2016
    Hi everyone,

    I wanted to share how I bootstrap a 99.9% pure Arch Linux system when I don't have a whole weekend to go through the installation manual again. Antergos (https://antergos.com) is an Arch distribution that uses Arch's repos and adds one of its own.

    I don't particularly care for the changes they make. While the Antergos installer allows you to choose which desktop you want, I choose the command line install. That make setting up things like full disk encryption on LVM very easy. After I boot into the newly installed system, I remove the Antergos repo entry in the Pacman config, and disable the 10_antergos in favor of 10_linux in /etc/grub.d/.

    After that, I install the rest of the packages I want manually knowing that Antergos won't be applying their treatment to it. For example, their LightDM theme is horribly broken and buggy so it's nice to not have to deal with it.

    Just thought I'd share. Hopefully this saves someone some time.

    Chris

    ---
    Synchronet Decker's Heaven -//- bbs.deckersheaven.com
  • From jagossel@VERT/KK4QBN to mr_chris on Fri Dec 16 16:13:15 2016
    Re: An Easy Way to Bootstrap Arch Linux
    By: mr_chris to All on Fri Dec 16 2016 03:00 pm

    I wanted to share how I bootstrap a 99.9% pure Arch Linux system when I don'
    t
    have a whole weekend to go through the installation manual again. Antergos (https://antergos.com) is an Arch distribution that uses Arch's repos and ad
    ds
    one of its own.

    Ok, I am definetly interested now. I may take a look at it in a VM, once I get the time, and see what it is like.

    How long have you been using Antergos? Would you know if they, also, made updating the Linux kernels easier as well? I know that Manjaro does by running mkinitcpio, grub-mkconfig, and grub-install (as part of the post-installation script of the system upgrade).

    Honestly, though, I miss the purity of Arch Linux, but I do agree that I do not have the time to run the installation manually and fix any issues that I might have caused.

    ---
    Synchronet KK4QBN BBS - (706)422-9538 - kk4qbn.synchro.net, Chatsworth GA US
  • From mr_chris@VERT/DECKHEVN to jagossel on Fri Dec 16 18:55:03 2016
    Re: An Easy Way to Bootstrap Arch Linux
    By: jagossel to mr_chris on Fri Dec 16 2016 04:13 pm

    How long have you been using Antergos? Would you know if they, also, made updating the Linux kernels easier as well? I know that Manjaro does by running mkinitcpio, grub-mkconfig, and grub-install (as part of the post-installation script of the system upgrade).

    I've been running it for a few years, since before the name change when it was Cinnarch. I'm not sure what Manjaro does, but I do know that aside from the Antergos graphical installer and their extra repo, it is pure Arch. Having said that, I've never really had a difficult time updating kernels. A pacman -Syyua typically handles everything including updating Grub and the initramfs.

    ---
    Synchronet Decker's Heaven -//- bbs.deckersheaven.com
  • From Nicholas Boel@VERT/PHARCYDE to mr_chris on Fri Dec 16 17:14:30 2016
    Hello mr_chris,

    On Fri, 16 Dec 2016 15:00:00 -0500, mr_chris -> All wrote:

    I wanted to share how I bootstrap a 99.9% pure Arch Linux system when I
    don't
    have a whole weekend to go through the installation manual again. Antergos (https://antergos.com) is an Arch distribution that uses Arch's repos and
    adds
    one of its own.

    I don't particularly care for the changes they make. While the Antergos installer allows you to choose which desktop you want, I choose the command line install. That make setting up things like full disk encryption on LVM
    very
    easy. After I boot into the newly installed system, I remove the Antergos
    repo
    entry in the Pacman config, and disable the 10_antergos in favor of
    10_linux in
    /etc/grub.d/.

    After that, I install the rest of the packages I want manually knowing that Antergos won't be applying their treatment to it. For example, their
    LightDM
    theme is horribly broken and buggy so it's nice to not have to deal with
    it.

    Just thought I'd share. Hopefully this saves someone some time.

    I'm not sure where you're going with this. I can install a fresh Archlinux command line install in about 20 minutes or less. Then, if not using old hardware, it takes about 5 minutes more to be up and running with a complete desktop environment. Why in the world would it take you an entire weekend? This
    is Archlinux, not Gentoo. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

    --- slrn/1.0.3 (Linux)
    * Origin: thePharcyde_ distribution system (723:1/1)
    Synchronet thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)
  • From jagossel@VERT/KK4QBN to Nicholas Boel on Sat Dec 17 07:41:39 2016
    Re: An Easy Way to Bootstrap Arch Linux
    By: Nicholas Boel to mr_chris on Fri Dec 16 2016 05:14 pm

    I'm not sure where you're going with this. I can install a fresh Archlinux command line install in about 20 minutes or less. Then, if not using old hardware, it takes about 5 minutes more to be up and running with a complete desktop environment. Why in the world would it take you an entire weekend? T
    his
    is Archlinux, not Gentoo. :)

    Personally, the installation isn't the problem; mine would any configuration issues or missing a step during the installation.

    ---
    Synchronet KK4QBN BBS - (706)422-9538 - kk4qbn.synchro.net, Chatsworth GA US
  • From mr_chris@VERT/DECKHEVN to Nicholas Boel on Sat Dec 17 22:23:13 2016
    Re: An Easy Way to Bootstrap Arch Linux
    By: Nicholas Boel to mr_chris on Fri Dec 16 2016 05:14 pm

    I'm not sure where you're going with this. I can install a fresh Archlinux command line install in about 20 minutes or less. Then, if not using old

    Good for you on installing it in 20 minutes or less. Would you prefer a certificate, or a medal?

    ---
    Synchronet Decker's Heaven -//- bbs.deckersheaven.com
  • From Nicholas Boel@VERT/PHARCYDE to mr_chris on Sat Dec 17 22:49:48 2016
    Hello mr_chris,

    On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 22:23:12 -0500, mr_chris -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

    I'm not sure where you're going with this. I can install a fresh
    Archlinux command line install in about 20 minutes or less.

    Good for you on installing it in 20 minutes or less. Would you prefer
    a certificate, or a medal?

    I don't need a medal or certificate for correcting misinformation. I do that out of the kindness of my heart. Simply put, it doesn't take an entire weekend to install Archlinux. It was necessary to correct your asinine statements in a quick fashion.

    Regards,
    Nick

    --- slrn/1.0.3 (Linux)
    * Origin: thePharcyde_ distribution system (723:1/1)
    Synchronet thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)
  • From mr_chris@VERT/DECKHEVN to Nicholas Boel on Sun Dec 18 08:44:34 2016
    Re: An Easy Way to Bootstrap Arch Linux
    By: Nicholas Boel to mr_chris on Sat Dec 17 2016 10:49 pm

    that out of the kindness of my heart. Simply put, it doesn't take an entire weekend to install Archlinux. It was necessary to correct your asinine statements in a quick fashion.

    "An entire weekend". This is known as an exaggeration.

    Exaggeration - Noun - A statement that represents something as better or worse than it really is.

    Let's look at another word.

    Helpful - Adjective - Giving or ready to give help.

    You, Nick, are not being helpful. I started a thread with some information on a faster (for some) way to bootstrap Arch. I have had very good results with it and thought I'd share my experience with others in the hopes that others might find it helpful.

    You, one the other hand, felt it necessary to derail the point of the thread by making a desperate grab for attention and bragging about how fast you can install a Linux distribution. When called out on it, you defend your actions by claiming you are "correcting my asinine statements". This, Nick, does not contribute to the thread. It makes you look like an ass.

    I won't waste any more time responding until you can learn what being helpful is (you're doing it wrong), actually try it for yourself, and can learn how to contribute to a converstation in a civilized, non-trollish fasion.

    Chris

    ---
    Synchronet Decker's Heaven -//- bbs.deckersheaven.com
  • From Nicholas Boel@VERT/PHARCYDE to mr_chris on Sun Dec 18 09:34:30 2016
    Hello mr_chris,

    On Sun, 18 Dec 2016 08:44:34 -0500, mr_chris -> Nicholas Boel wrote:

    "An entire weekend". This is known as an exaggeration.

    Exaggeration - Noun - A statement that represents something as better or
    worse
    than it really is.

    Why would you exaggerate anything when trying to be helpful to others?

    Helpful - Adjective - Giving or ready to give help.

    So you basically exaggerated and provided misinformation while trying to be helpful. I can see now why you want to continue to try to prove to everyone that I'm wrong here, and you're not. :|

    You, Nick, are not being helpful.

    Neither are you, when exaggerating and providing misinformation. Nice (but typical) attempt at turning it around on me, though.

    You, one the other hand, felt it necessary to derail the point of the
    thread by
    making a desperate grab for attention and bragging about how fast you can install a Linux distribution. When called out on it, you defend your
    actions by
    claiming you are "correcting my asinine statements". This, Nick, does not contribute to the thread. It makes you look like an ass.

    And your exaggeration and misinformation made you look like an ass. It doesn't matter how fast *I* can install a Linux distribution. That was just an example (you could look that one up and provide the definition for it as well, if you really feel the need). That wasn't the point of my reply. The point was that your information was wrong, and overly exaggerated. Which is not very helpful.

    I won't waste any more time responding until you can learn what being
    helpful
    is (you're doing it wrong), actually try it for yourself, and can learn how
    to
    contribute to a converstation in a civilized, non-trollish fasion.

    Obviously, you were doing it wrong as well. Otherwise I wouldn't have replied to your original message. When trying to be helpful, it's probably not a good idea to misinform people and exaggerate. But I'm sure you knew that already.

    Regards,
    Nick

    --- slrn/1.0.3 (Linux)
    * Origin: thePharcyde_ distribution system (723:1/1)
    Synchronet thePharcyde_ telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)