• FreeBSD?

    From Chickenhead@VERT to All on Fri Nov 1 17:43:36 2019
    So...anyone using FreeBSD here?

    Mostly I've been a Linux snob since about 1992 when I started messing with the SLS distro...but recently, especially after systemd, I have been experimenting with FreeBSD. And liking it, a lot.

    My main server (for my home) runs FreeBSD now. I find that the OS updates are far less intrusive than the usual Debian "apt" based system. I love the ports tree, although the "pkg" system is very friendly to an old Linux fanatic. Mainly I'm running a Plex and Emby server and until recently, a logitech media server (which broke, but that's not unusual).

    I still run Linux on my laptop of course, but I still quite like FreeBSD. I find it amusing that my FreeBSD server, running the dreaded "RC" scripts boots faster than my Linux server running systemd.

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  • From Bencollver@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Chickenhead on Sat Nov 2 12:01:31 2019
    Re: FreeBSD?
    By: Chickenhead to All on Fri Nov 01 2019 17:43:36

    So...anyone using FreeBSD here?

    Mostly I've been a Linux snob since about 1992 when I started messing with t SLS distro...but recently, especially after systemd, I have been experimenti with FreeBSD. And liking it, a lot.


    I don't currently run FreeBSD, but i have in the past. I helped a friend
    set up a FreeBSD laptop running KDE back in 1998. I have also used
    NetBSD and OpenBSD extensively. I love the expertise and friendly can-do attitudes in the NetBSD community, and the ambition and beautifully
    written documentation in OpenBSD.

    My host machine runs Linux mainly because it has better driver support
    and virtualization options. I started with Unifix Linux in 1995. It
    came with hardcopy documentation that included important manuals and walkthroughs. I found this helpful because i didn't always have
    Internet connectivity.

    I feel there is something not quite right about systemd. It mainly has
    to do with perceived hostility towards users. The same can sometimes be
    said about the OpenBSD project, whose leader is on the record inviting misbehaving users to go kill themselves. That is not necessary. The
    world is harsh enough as it is.

    What are you liking about FreeBSD so far? I believe FreeBSD was the
    first BSD to come out with a comprehensive handbook. In my opinion
    that is highly praise-worthy.

    Peace,
    -Ben

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Chickenhead on Sat Nov 2 09:31:00 2019
    Chickenhead wrote to All <=-

    So...anyone using FreeBSD here?

    Not lately, how's the state of BSD nowadays?

    I started my *nix exposure running SunOS and BSD/OS (a commercial version of 4.4BSD), then moved to FreeBSD for my public-facing stuff. Linux just wasn't ready yet, this was 1997-2001.

    I had a web server, DNS server and FTP server for a gaming company running
    on 2 boxes, we ended up handling 400+ concurrent FTP downloads when a
    popular beta dropped. I was so proud of the setup at the time.


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  • From Arelor@VERT to Chickenhead on Sat Nov 2 10:57:36 2019
    Re: FreeBSD?
    By: Chickenhead to All on Fri Nov 01 2019 05:43 pm

    So...anyone using FreeBSD here?

    I have experimented with FreeBSD, but I am an OpenBSD user myself. I mostly run Slackware Linux and OpenBSD these days.

    I think FreeBSD has its merits, but it always felt to me like a BSD licensed Linux. I can't really point what it was what made me feel that way.
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  • From Arelor@VERT to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Nov 2 11:01:55 2019
    Re: Re: FreeBSD?
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Chickenhead on Sat Nov 02 2019 09:31 am

    Not lately, how's the state of BSD nowadays?

    I can't speak for the other BSDs, but OpenBSD has been doing a lot of work regarding blocking memory that is marked both as writable and executable at the same time(which is bad), have introduced privilege/capabilities syscalls for security purposes, and have started working hard in virtualitation.

    They have also introduced binary updates for both base and ports. The case used to be that you were supposed to compile the updates haha.
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  • From Grease@VERT/DARKMATT to Chickenhead on Sat Nov 2 10:27:00 2019
    Chickenhead wrote to All <=-

    So...anyone using FreeBSD here?

    Manjaro here. I've used many other flavors, Mint, Suse, Ub/lubuntu, Mandriva, CentOS, whatever flavor of the month. Never tried FreeBSD, though.
    Might have to d/l and check it out.

    Grease
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  • From Vk3jed@VERT/FREEWAY to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Nov 3 12:41:00 2019
    On 11-02-19 09:31, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Chickenhead <=-

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    Chickenhead wrote to All <=-

    So...anyone using FreeBSD here?

    Not lately, how's the state of BSD nowadays?

    I played around with a friend's FreeBSD system back in the mid-late 90s. Certainly a solid OS, and back then, FreeBSD had a very good reputation, but most of my projects from then on required some form of Linux, and *BSD wasn't always supported.

    I started my *nix exposure running SunOS and BSD/OS (a commercial
    version of 4.4BSD), then moved to FreeBSD for my public-facing stuff. Linux just wasn't ready yet, this was 1997-2001.

    I remember my first Internet (shell) account was on a BSDi (commercial BSD variant) host. That seemed rock solid too.

    But yeah I have no idea where any of the BSDs are at now.


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  • From Kirkman@VERT/GUARDIAN to Chickenhead on Fri Nov 8 09:38:33 2019
    Re: FreeBSD?
    By: Chickenhead to All on Fri Nov 01 2019 05:43 pm

    Mostly I've been a Linux snob since about 1992 when I started messing with the SLS distro...but recently, especially after systemd, I have been experimenting with FreeBSD. And liking it, a lot.

    We used it at work for a server. I liked it okay, but I'm happy we're on Linux now... Better support for libraries and things we were needing.

    --Josh

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  • From Chickenhead@VERT to Bencollver on Fri Nov 8 16:21:17 2019
    Re: FreeBSD?
    By: Bencollver to Chickenhead on Sat Nov 02 2019 12:01 pm

    Re: FreeBSD?
    By: Chickenhead to All on Fri Nov 01 2019 17:43:36

    So...anyone using FreeBSD here?

    Mostly I've been a Linux snob since about 1992 when I started messing with t SLS distro...but recently, especially after systemd, I have been experimenti with FreeBSD. And liking it, a lot.


    I don't currently run FreeBSD, but i have in the past. I helped a friend set up a FreeBSD laptop running KDE back in 1998. I have also used
    NetBSD and OpenBSD extensively. I love the expertise and friendly can-do attitudes in the NetBSD community, and the ambition and beautifully
    written documentation in OpenBSD.

    My host machine runs Linux mainly because it has better driver support
    and virtualization options. I started with Unifix Linux in 1995. It
    came with hardcopy documentation that included important manuals and walkthroughs. I found this helpful because i didn't always have
    Internet connectivity.

    I feel there is something not quite right about systemd. It mainly has
    to do with perceived hostility towards users. The same can sometimes be said about the OpenBSD project, whose leader is on the record inviting misbehaving users to go kill themselves. That is not necessary. The
    world is harsh enough as it is.

    What are you liking about FreeBSD so far? I believe FreeBSD was the
    first BSD to come out with a comprehensive handbook. In my opinion
    that is highly praise-worthy.

    Peace,
    -Ben


    I ignored the systemd controversy when it first appeared but...the more I looke dinto it, the more I hated it. I'll go on record right here saying that RedHat hired astroturfers to support it. When Debian capitulated to systemd, I knew something was very wrong. Lennart Pottering, the creator of systemd, also made the shit-tacular pulseaudio system infecting every linux system.

    I like the attitude of FreeBSD. They're not as extreme as OpenBSD. I think they are carrying the standard of the original BSD team. I love the FreeBSD handbook. It does a great job of explaining everything. RTFM in one handy document.

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  • From Chickenhead@VERT to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Nov 8 16:26:12 2019
    Re: Re: FreeBSD?
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Chickenhead on Sat Nov 02 2019 09:31 am

    Chickenhead wrote to All <=-

    So...anyone using FreeBSD here?

    Not lately, how's the state of BSD nowadays?

    I started my *nix exposure running SunOS and BSD/OS (a commercial version of 4.4BSD), then moved to FreeBSD for my public-facing stuff. Linux just wasn't ready yet, this was 1997-2001.

    I had a web server, DNS server and FTP server for a gaming company running on 2 boxes, we ended up handling 400+ concurrent FTP downloads when a popular beta dropped. I was so proud of the setup at the time.


    ... Did you find what you were looking for?

    I started out with an old laptop running Linux. And I decided one day to just put FreeBSD on it. It was great...it was like the OLD Linux days in the early 90s.

    I feel like Linux has gone the wrong way. My main (System 67) laptop running Linux is my main go-to appliance but...when it comes to the server side, I use FreeBSD.

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