• NFL

    From Ryedawg@VERT to All on Thu Aug 18 19:26:52 2011
    Anyone doing a pickem league this year. I think the old one is now defunct.
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  • From The Lizard Master@VERT to Ryedawg on Wed Sep 7 08:55:00 2011
    Re: NFL
    By: Ryedawg to All on Thu Aug 18 2011 07:26 pm

    Anyone doing a pickem league this year. I think the old one is now defunct.

    Where is Jazzman?

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  • From Sandman@VERT/HAVENS to All on Sat Aug 10 16:25:39 2019
    Anyone looking forward to the start of the NFL season? The Saints were screwed out of their chance to go to the Superbowl last year because of very poor officiating. Pass interference was very obvious but not called. To answer this travesty the NFL has changed the rules and made receivers untouchable by defenders. Carl Banks, former New York Giant commented during the Jet/Giant preseason game "If these are going to be the new rules they might as well just get rid of the position". The NFL has already turned the game of football into a
    "sissy" game. Pretty soon they won't allow tackling at all. Ewwwww don't hurt the QB. Ewwww you tackled me too hard. Ewwww You gave me a concussion.The NFL is
    crying about low attendance? Keep adding more stupid rules to the game. And don't forget to let the whole damn team kneel during our national anthem. That really ought to bring in the crowds. So is anyone looking forward to the start to the NFL season?

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Sandman on Sat Aug 10 18:49:00 2019
    Sandman wrote to All <=-

    Anyone looking forward to the start of the NFL season? The
    Saints were screwed out of their chance to go to the Superbowl
    last year because of very poor officiating. Pass interference was
    very obvious but not called. To answer this travesty the NFL has
    changed the rules and made receivers untouchable by defenders.
    Carl Banks, former New York Giant commented during the Jet/Giant
    preseason game "If these are going to be the new rules they might
    as well just get rid of the position". The NFL has already turned
    the game of football into a
    "sissy" game. Pretty soon they won't allow tackling at all.
    Ewwwww don't hurt the QB. Ewwww you tackled me too hard. Ewwww
    You gave me a concussion.The NFL is
    crying about low attendance? Keep adding more stupid rules to the
    game. And don't forget to let the whole damn team kneel during
    our national anthem. That really ought to bring in the crowds. So
    is anyone looking forward to the start to the NFL season?

    I haven't watched an NFL game in nearly two years, and will
    continue my boycott this year. I don't care about rule changes,
    but the kneeling for the national anthem is the dealbreaker for
    me. Bunch of disrespectful, entitled, prima donnas who can't just
    play a simple game without getting political. Screw all of em.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Gamgee on Sun Aug 11 19:35:00 2019
    Gamgee wrote to Sandman <=-

    I haven't watched an NFL game in nearly two years, and will
    continue my boycott this year. I don't care about rule changes,
    but the kneeling for the national anthem is the dealbreaker for
    me. Bunch of disrespectful, entitled, prima donnas who can't just
    play a simple game without getting political. Screw all of em.

    I have always prefered the college game myself. Looking forward to the
    season starting Labor Day weekend.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Dumas Walker on Mon Aug 12 18:01:00 2019
    Dumas Walker wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I haven't watched an NFL game in nearly two years, and will
    continue my boycott this year. I don't care about rule changes,
    but the kneeling for the national anthem is the dealbreaker for
    me. Bunch of disrespectful, entitled, prima donnas who can't just
    play a simple game without getting political. Screw all of em.

    I have always prefered the college game myself. Looking forward
    to the season starting Labor Day weekend.

    Yes, I like to watch some college football, but certainly not a
    fanatic about it. I especially like the in-state rivalry games
    near the end of the season.

    My real sports passion is hockey, and baseball to some extent.



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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZZONE to Gamgee on Wed Sep 4 11:36:49 2019
    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Gamgee to Dumas Walker on Mon Aug 12 2019 06:01 pm

    Dumas Walker wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I haven't watched an NFL game in nearly two years, and will
    continue my boycott this year. I don't care about rule changes,
    but the kneeling for the national anthem is the dealbreaker for
    me. Bunch of disrespectful, entitled, prima donnas who can't just
    play a simple game without getting political. Screw all of em.

    I have always prefered the college game myself. Looking forward
    to the season starting Labor Day weekend.

    Yes, I like to watch some college football, but certainly not a
    fanatic about it. I especially like the in-state rivalry games
    near the end of the season.

    My real sports passion is hockey, and baseball to some extent.



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    I can't say I enjoy football anymore. Too politcal and too many stops. I am not a fan of all the new rules, and prefered when the QB was fair game.

    I get concusions, etc. but the sport has changed so much its become boring.

    I am looking forward to the Bears season tho... If they can make a dude retire during pre-season that D is gonna be hellafied... <sarcasm />


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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to All on Sun Sep 27 12:01:21 2020
    Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?

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  • From Hatton@VERT/THRCORN to HusTler on Sun Sep 27 21:16:22 2020
    Re: NFL
    By: HusTler to All on Sun Sep 27 2020 12:01 pm

    Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?

    Not a full-on fan, that's my wife - but it's the Bills - the only New York team that actually *plays* in New York ;)

    Hatton

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to HusTler on Sun Sep 27 18:38:00 2020
    HusTler wrote to All <=-

    Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans?
    I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's
    yours?

    Screw the NFL.

    I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
    Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.



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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Gamgee on Mon Sep 28 02:58:03 2020
    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Gamgee to HusTler on Sun Sep 27 2020 06:38 pm

    I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
    Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.

    haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who are not in the US?

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  • From Codefenix@VERT/CONCHAOS to HusTler on Mon Sep 28 06:47:08 2020
    Re: NFL
    By: HusTler to All on Sun Sep 27 2020 12:01 pm

    Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?

    Browns here. They looked sharp yesterday.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Hatton on Mon Sep 28 08:20:50 2020
    Re: NFL
    By: Hatton to HusTler on Sun Sep 27 2020 09:16 pm

    Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?

    Not a full-on fan, that's my wife - but it's the Bills - the only New York t that actually *plays* in New York ;)

    HA. Very true. It's bothered me for years the Jets and Giants don't play in New York anymore. New statiums are being built for other NFL teams. Maybe one will be built in New York eventually? Hey .. I can dream ;-). That said, the way both teams are playing it doesn't matter where they play. The good news is the Packers won a great game last night! Rogers is the man! :-)

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 07:44:00 2020
    Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
    Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.

    haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who
    are not in the US?

    Kapernick started the whole thing about kneeling during the
    playing of the national anthem before games, as some sort of
    "protest" against unfair treatment of black people. Many people
    found (and still do) that to be disrespectful, and a lot of folks
    gave up on the NFL (and basketball/NBA, and to some extent
    baseball/MLB) because of it.



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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Gamgee on Mon Sep 28 10:02:37 2020
    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Gamgee to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 2020 07:44 am

    Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
    Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.

    haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who
    are not in the US?

    Kapernick started the whole thing about kneeling during the
    playing of the national anthem before games, as some sort of
    "protest" against unfair treatment of black people. Many people
    found (and still do) that to be disrespectful, and a lot of folks
    gave up on the NFL (and basketball/NBA, and to some extent
    baseball/MLB) because of it.



    ... All the easy problems have been solved.

    Ah, I see.

    I see you have a bigger number of powerful leagues over there. Here in Spain, only soccer makes money... everything else does not really pull its weight.

    My father asked me what the biggest sport was over there and I told him I believed it to be baseball, but I don't know how accurate my estimation was :-)

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 10:45:00 2020
    Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Gamgee to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 2020 07:44 am

    I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
    Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.

    haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who
    are not in the US?

    Kapernick started the whole thing about kneeling during the
    playing of the national anthem before games, as some sort of
    "protest" against unfair treatment of black people. Many people
    found (and still do) that to be disrespectful, and a lot of folks
    gave up on the NFL (and basketball/NBA, and to some extent
    baseball/MLB) because of it.

    Ah, I see.

    I see you have a bigger number of powerful leagues over there.
    Here in Spain, only soccer makes money... everything else does
    not really pull its weight.

    Yes, I understand that soccer (football to you) is the biggest
    thing in Europe (and other places). I played soccer myself in
    school, but don't have a whole lot of interest in it any more. I
    do try to watch the World Cup tournament when it comes around.

    My father asked me what the biggest sport was over there and I
    told him I believed it to be baseball, but I don't know how
    accurate my estimation was :-)

    I think football (USA version) is probably the "biggest" sport
    here these days, even despite the "social justice" issues that
    have embroiled it. Baseball was always known to me as "America's
    game", but seems to have declined in recent years. Most people
    find it too slow-paced and boring. Basketball has it's following,
    but I think it's also on the decline overall.

    I have somewhat of a cyclic interest in baseball, but my
    major/favorite sport is ice hockey. :-)



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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 11:17:00 2020
    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Arelor to Gamgee on Mon Sep 28 2020 02:58 am

    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Gamgee to HusTler on Sun Sep 27 2020 06:38 pm

    I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
    Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.

    haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who are not in t US?

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    Before sporting events it customary for everyone to rise for the playing of our national anthem. Kapernick took this time as an opportunity to protest police brutality by kneeling and "taking a knee" in protest during the ceremony. He did this to get people's attentoin, and sure enough he recieved more than his share of negative attention because it was revered as being disrespectful during a time when most reflect on those who served and died to protect our nation, and celebrate our freedom. The NFL is pretty strict on
    how athletes promote personal political and charities on the field, and some believe "on the field" includes being on the field creating a distraction during a period of respect.

    Some argue and say they don't go to an event for the opening ceremony and
    don't care, and that's fine. There's enough people who disagreed and showed they can hurt the NFL financially. It boils down to how hypocritical things appear when a large money driven organization goes "woke" and their sudden awareness of social justice appears to be pandering to a specific group.

    If a player wants my attention to a cause, take a knee during the game, especially during a play.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Codefenix on Mon Sep 28 09:56:22 2020
    Re: NFL
    By: Codefenix to HusTler on Mon Sep 28 2020 06:47 am

    Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?

    Browns here. They looked sharp yesterday.

    Been a long time for the Browns. How is this year looking for them?

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  • From hollowone@VERT/AMIGAC to HusTler on Sun Sep 27 21:17:00 2020
    Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a
    New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?

    Seahawks
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Moondog on Mon Sep 28 12:24:11 2020
    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 2020 11:17 am

    Before sporting events it customary for everyone to rise for the playing of our national anthem. Kapernick took this time as an opportunity to protest police brutality by kneeling and "taking a knee" in protest during the ceremony. He did this to get people's attentoin, and sure enough he recieved more than his share of negative attention because it was revered as being disrespectful during a time when most reflect on those who served and died to protect our nation, and celebrate our freedom. The NFL is pretty strict on how athletes promote personal political and charities on the field, and some believe "on the field" includes being on the field creating a distraction during a period of respect.

    I know it's customary to stand for the national anthem, but I don't see how it's so disrespectful or terrible for people to take a knee, as some people say. Seems like some people get really offended by people taking a knee, and I don't understand such an extreme reaction.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Mon Sep 28 20:40:58 2020
    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Nightfox to Moondog on Mon Sep 28 2020 12:24 pm

    field creating a distraction during a period of respect.

    I know it's customary to stand for the national anthem, but I don't see how it's so disrespectful or terrible for people to take a knee, as some people say. Seems like some people get really offended by people taking a knee, and I don't understand such an extreme reaction.


    what i dont like about it is it was a huge distration and the media ate it up like crazy and then everyone had to hear about the kneeling. and then all the other people felt obligated to kneel or they were racist.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Mon Sep 28 20:09:00 2020
    Nightfox wrote to Moondog <=-

    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 2020 11:17 am

    Before sporting events it customary for everyone to rise for the playing of our national anthem. Kapernick took this time as an opportunity to protest police brutality by kneeling and "taking a knee" in protest during the ceremony. He did this to get people's attentoin, and sure enough he recieved more than his share of negative attention because it was revered as being disrespectful during a time when most reflect on those who served and died to protect our nation, and celebrate our freedom. The NFL is pretty strict on how athletes promote personal political and charities on the field, and some believe "on the field" includes being on the field creating a distraction during a period of respect.

    I know it's customary to stand for the national anthem, but I

    Yes, because it shows respect to the flag, and the country, and
    those who keep it free. This isn't unique to the USA, either.

    don't see how it's so disrespectful or terrible for people to
    take a knee, as some people say.

    Well, if it's respectful to stand for the anthem, what would it be
    to remain sitting, or to kneel? Yup, that's right - the opposite
    of respectful.

    Seems like some people get really offended by people taking a
    knee, and I don't understand such an extreme reaction.

    Perhaps if you asked a veteran, or a family member of a veteran
    killed in action, you'd get an answer that would explain it.



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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Tue Sep 29 01:05:00 2020
    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Arelor to Gamgee on Mon Sep 28 2020 10:02 am

    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Gamgee to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 2020 07:44 am

    Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
    Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.

    haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who
    are not in the US?

    Kapernick started the whole thing about kneeling during the
    playing of the national anthem before games, as some sort of
    "protest" against unfair treatment of black people. Many people
    found (and still do) that to be disrespectful, and a lot of folks
    gave up on the NFL (and basketball/NBA, and to some extent
    baseball/MLB) because of it.



    ... All the easy problems have been solved.

    Ah, I see.

    I see you have a bigger number of powerful leagues over there. Here in Spain only soccer makes money... everything else does not really pull its weight.

    My father asked me what the biggest sport was over there and I told him I believed it to be baseball, but I don't know how accurate my estimation was

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    Baseball is considered the national favorite, however I think there's way more
    money behind pro football. Baseball has a simpler, more laid back
    appearance, so when there is any controversy with the team owners or players, people tend to turn away from it for awhile. It has it's ups and downs, but there is always a dediciated group of followers that love it regardless what happens. My grandparents on my father's side lived in Bayside, NY up until
    the 1950's and my grandfather worked for the NYPD in NYC. My grandmother's brother in law used to socialize at a club where the NY Yankees would go, and knew Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig. One of my father's cousins told me their
    uncle bought a baseball glove for Gehrig, and he used it for awhile.

    My grandmother was a Cubs fan, and her sister and brother in law were die
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Tue Sep 29 01:12:00 2020
    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Nightfox to Moondog on Mon Sep 28 2020 12:24 pm

    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 2020 11:17 am

    Before sporting events it customary for everyone to rise for the playin of our national anthem. Kapernick took this time as an opportunity to protest police brutality by kneeling and "taking a knee" in protest dur the ceremony. He did this to get people's attentoin, and sure enough he recieved more than his share of negative attention because it was rever as being disrespectful during a time when most reflect on those who ser and died to protect our nation, and celebrate our freedom. The NFL is pretty strict on how athletes promote personal political and charities the field, and some believe "on the field" includes being on the field creating a distraction during a period of respect.

    I know it's customary to stand for the national anthem, but I don't see how an extreme reaction.

    Nightfox

    The way I see it, it's disrespectful to take a ceremony or time we use to commemorate or reflect on those who gave their lives to protect our country, and make it into a soapbox to serve their own interests. The NFL has so many rules preventing the "soapbox" to appear regarding non-sanctioned messages, then they let this pass.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Gamgee on Mon Sep 28 22:34:02 2020
    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Mon Sep 28 2020 08:09 pm

    don't see how it's so disrespectful or terrible for people to
    take a knee, as some people say.

    Well, if it's respectful to stand for the anthem, what would it be
    to remain sitting, or to kneel? Yup, that's right - the opposite
    of respectful.

    I know standing is respectful, but I don't remember ever hearing that taking a knee for the anthem is not respectful. I'd think there's more than one way to show respect for something, and maybe I missed something, but I didn't think that just standing was the only mandated way to show respect for the anthem.

    Perhaps if you asked a veteran, or a family member of a veteran
    killed in action, you'd get an answer that would explain it.

    Perhaps they'd be able to explain it better.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Moondog on Mon Sep 28 22:41:22 2020
    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Moondog to Nightfox on Tue Sep 29 2020 01:12 am

    The way I see it, it's disrespectful to take a ceremony or time we use to commemorate or reflect on those who gave their lives to protect our country, and make it into a soapbox to serve their own interests. The NFL has so many rules preventing the "soapbox" to appear regarding non-sanctioned messages, then they let this pass.

    I can see that, yes. But if it's a matter of just how you respect the anthem, I'd think people can respect the anthem multiple ways.

    Nightfox

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Tue Sep 29 08:06:00 2020
    Nightfox wrote to Moondog <=-

    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Moondog to Nightfox on Tue Sep 29 2020 01:12 am

    The way I see it, it's disrespectful to take a ceremony or time we use to commemorate or reflect on those who gave their lives to protect our country, and make it into a soapbox to serve their own interests. The NFL has so many rules preventing the "soapbox" to appear regarding non-sanctioned messages, then they let this pass.

    I can see that, yes. But if it's a matter of just how you
    respect the anthem, I'd think people can respect the anthem
    multiple ways.

    I think you have a fundamental mis-understanding of why these
    jerkoffs are kneeling. They are *NOT* doing it as an "alternate
    way" to respect the anthem.

    They are doing it purposely to show that they do NOT respect the
    anthem, nor the nation that it stands for. They feel they have
    been mis-treated by others in America, especially the police, and
    choose this method to grandstand and introduce politics and
    "social justice" into sporting events.

    Part of the problem for many that don't like this is that they
    come to (or watch on TV) sporting events because they like
    *SPORTING* *EVENTS*. Period. It is not the place to bring your
    "cause" to, because it's got TV cameras all over the place (which
    is a main reason they do it). A ballgame is a place to get away
    from the normal everyday bullshit we are all subjected to.

    Ask yourself this question: How many of these "elite" athletes do
    *ANYTHING* to further this political/social agenda of theirs,
    *OUTSIDE* of a televised sporting event? How many of them are
    actually out in their communities doing positive things to bring
    about the change they desire. Things that actually help other
    people, when there are no reporters or cameras around.

    That's right. Virtually NONE of them. That should tell you
    something.



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  • From hollowone@VERT/AMIGAC to Nightfox on Tue Sep 29 21:58:00 2020
    Well, if it's respectful to stand for the anthem, what would it be
    to remain sitting, or to kneel? Yup, that's right - the opposite
    of respectful.

    I know standing is respectful, but I don't remember ever hearing that taking a knee for the anthem is not respectful. I'd think there's more than one way to show respect for something, and maybe I missed
    something, but I didn't think that just standing was the only mandated
    way to show respect for the anthem.

    Not being American but also from a country with a patriotic DNA toward symbols I still don't understand why Kaepernick was so much bashed after it.

    To refer to above comments, some people come to the church and do not pray at all, don't react on moments when to knee and when to stand and all this rubbish actions that for sure catholic church educates you to do.. does it mean behavior is offensive to the faith and people should be crucified for it?

    Maybe out of desperation he could not find other way to make a point. I consider it much more constructive what Kaepernick did than all that Black Lives Matter bullshit that came out of similar frustration but outcome is robbed stores and cars torched to the ground. And guess what.. people were kneeling back to terrorists to say I'm sorry.

    I'm an outsider but I think America has a lot to learn how to deal with social unrest in a constructive way.

    /h1




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  • From Codefenix@VERT/CONCHAOS to HusTler on Tue Sep 29 10:56:43 2020
    Re: NFL
    By: HusTler to Codefenix on Mon Sep 28 2020 09:56 am

    Been a long time for the Browns. How is this year looking for them?

    A not-too-shabby 2-1 so far. They just won against Washington, which honestly could have gone either way, but always nice to see a win. They play Dallas next, so we'll see if they can keep the momentum going.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Tue Sep 29 14:01:00 2020
    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Nightfox to Gamgee on Mon Sep 28 2020 10:34 pm

    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Mon Sep 28 2020 08:09 pm

    don't see how it's so disrespectful or terrible for people to
    take a knee, as some people say.

    Well, if it's respectful to stand for the anthem, what would it be
    to remain sitting, or to kneel? Yup, that's right - the opposite
    of respectful.

    I know standing is respectful, but I don't remember ever hearing that taking was the only mandated way to show respect for the anthem.

    Perhaps if you asked a veteran, or a family member of a veteran
    killed in action, you'd get an answer that would explain it.

    Perhaps they'd be able to explain it better.

    Nightfox


    Taking a knee is seen as a form of protest, and even thogh it's protesting police brutality against black people, it was done at that time of the game
    on purpose. It was done to get attention and stick out during a time poeple will notice it.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Gamgee on Tue Sep 29 17:23:27 2020
    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Tue Sep 29 2020 08:06 am

    Part of the problem for many that don't like this is that they
    come to (or watch on TV) sporting events because they like
    *SPORTING* *EVENTS*. Period. It is not the place to bring your
    "cause" to, because it's got TV cameras all over the place (which
    is a main reason they do it). A ballgame is a place to get away
    from the normal everyday bullshit we are all subjected to.

    You know, something similar started happening to tabletop RPG games, which has ruined
    a lot of games for me.

    You try to have a very serious game about undead robots fighting alien werevolves and
    then the manual throws you some political message in order to ruin your fun.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to hollowone on Tue Sep 29 17:29:41 2020
    Re: Re: NFL
    By: hollowone to Nightfox on Tue Sep 29 2020 09:58 pm

    To refer to above comments, some people come to the church and do not pray at all,
    don't react on moments when to knee and when to stand and all this rubbish actions
    that for sure catholic church educates you to do.. does it mean behavior is offensi
    to the faith and people should be crucified for it?

    I think it is assumed a lot of people goes to church without "knowing the moves". For
    example, if they are going for the first time or whatever. I think not knowing what is
    propper is somewhat excusable, specially on religions that promote giving-the-other-cheek or accepting that humans are falible and suck.

    I am not church goer, but the times I have been to one because of social circumpstances I have done my best to adapt :-P


    Now, I think we can agree taking a knee was a clear declaration of political affiliation. Much like singing "Cara Al Sol" in mass. Singing that is not an alternate
    way of doing anything, it is just a way of declaring yourself a follower of General
    Franco's Fascism. And it would not fly well among non-fascists.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Gamgee on Tue Sep 29 18:51:27 2020
    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Gamgee to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 2020 07:44 am

    I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
    Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.

    haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who
    are not in the US?

    Kapernick started the whole thing about kneeling during the
    playing of the national anthem before games, as some sort of
    "protest" against unfair treatment of black people. Many people
    found (and still do) that to be disrespectful, and a lot of folks
    gave up on the NFL (and basketball/NBA, and to some extent
    baseball/MLB) because of it.

    I keep debating with myself if I should stop watching the NFL. Unfortunatly I love the game too much. I played the game myself in Jr High and High school so I'm emotionally attached. I've been watching very closely this disprespecting our flag and I must say they have been behaving well. They even stopped a lot of the "show boating" but they do get penalized for that now. I doubt Kapernick will ever play in the NFL again. I hope it's a wake up call to keep politics out of sports. If I see it again I will definelty stop watching the NFL. Let them burn some buildings down. Just keep your protests out of sports.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Gamgee on Tue Sep 29 18:58:39 2020
    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Mon Sep 28 2020 08:09 pm

    Seems like some people get really offended by people taking a
    knee, and I don't understand such an extreme reaction.


    Because you STAND during the singing of the National Anthem. It's not a debate open for discussion!

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  • From hollowone@VERT/AMIGAC to Arelor on Wed Sep 30 13:12:00 2020
    Now, I think we can agree taking a knee was a clear declaration of political affiliation. Much like singing "Cara Al Sol" in mass. Singing that is not an alternate way of doing anything, it is just a way of declaring yourself a follower of General Franco's Fascism. And it would not fly well among non-fascists.

    Got your point sir, although everything is contextual I just reminded myself watching TV while France was hosting Euro 2016 Football (Soccer) Cup and when hooligans were being discussed I saw some English supported peeing and spitting and torching my country's flag.

    Well first thought I had actually was "Fuck the Brits, come and I'll shoot a bullet in your fucking head you half naked fucking monkey, next time you visit my country for a stag party, me and my boys will throw you to the river with concrete boots to make your adventure more comfy".

    so.. yes.. relatively speaking people might have felt offended by that famous kneeling, big time.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Codefenix on Wed Sep 30 08:50:05 2020
    Re: NFL
    By: Codefenix to HusTler on Tue Sep 29 2020 10:56 am

    A not-too-shabby 2-1 so far. They just won against Washington, which honestl could have gone either way, but always nice to see a win. They play Dallas next, so we'll see if they can keep the momentum going.

    Hey great for them! Did they get a win last year? 2-1 is a great start!

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Arelor on Wed Sep 30 07:41:00 2020
    Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Tue Sep 29 2020 08:06 am

    Part of the problem for many that don't like this is that they
    come to (or watch on TV) sporting events because they like
    *SPORTING* *EVENTS*. Period. It is not the place to bring your
    "cause" to, because it's got TV cameras all over the place (which
    is a main reason they do it). A ballgame is a place to get away
    from the normal everyday bullshit we are all subjected to.

    You know, something similar started happening to tabletop RPG
    games, which has ruined a lot of games for me.

    You try to have a very serious game about undead robots fighting
    alien werevolves and then the manual throws you some political
    message in order to ruin your fun.

    Hehehe.

    I didn't realize the politics had penetrated that deep into the
    gaming world. :-)



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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to HusTler on Wed Sep 30 07:44:00 2020
    HusTler wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Kapernick started the whole thing about kneeling during the
    playing of the national anthem before games, as some sort of
    "protest" against unfair treatment of black people. Many people
    found (and still do) that to be disrespectful, and a lot of folks
    gave up on the NFL (and basketball/NBA, and to some extent
    baseball/MLB) because of it.

    I keep debating with myself if I should stop watching the NFL. Unfortunatly I love the game too much. I played the game myself
    in Jr High and High school so I'm emotionally attached. I've been
    watching very closely this disprespecting our flag and I must say
    they have been behaving well. They even stopped a lot of the
    "show boating" but they do get penalized for that now. I doubt
    Kapernick will ever play in the NFL again. I hope it's a wake up
    call to keep politics out of sports. If I see it again I will
    definelty stop watching the NFL. Let them burn some buildings
    down. Just keep your protests out of sports.

    Well, as I said, I haven't watched an NFL game in 4 years... but I
    do recall in the last few weeks (opening day?) that they were
    still doing it. Either kneeling or returning to the locker room
    before the anthem was played. Just as bad, to me. Screw them.



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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to HusTler on Wed Sep 30 07:45:00 2020
    HusTler wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Mon Sep 28 2020 08:09 pm

    Seems like some people get really offended by people taking a
    knee, and I don't understand such an extreme reaction.

    Because you STAND during the singing of the National Anthem.
    It's not a debate open for discussion!

    Not sure why you replied to me. It was Nightfox that you quoted
    there above, not me. I do agree with your statement though.





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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Gamgee on Wed Sep 30 16:37:14 2020
    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Gamgee to HusTler on Wed Sep 30 2020 07:45 am

    Not sure why you replied to me. It was Nightfox that you quoted
    there above, not me. I do agree with your statement though.


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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to All on Wed Sep 30 16:39:07 2020
    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Gamgee to HusTler on Wed Sep 30 2020 07:44 am

    Well, as I said, I haven't watched an NFL game in 4 years... but I
    do recall in the last few weeks (opening day?) that they were
    still doing it. Either kneeling or returning to the locker room
    before the anthem was played. Just as bad, to me. Screw them.

    Now that you mention it I do remember seeing that on the highlight reels.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Moondog on Wed Sep 30 17:24:30 2020
    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Moondog to Nightfox on Tue Sep 29 2020 02:01 pm

    Taking a knee is seen as a form of protest, and even thogh it's protesting police brutality against black people, it was done at that time of the game on purpose. It was done to get attention and stick out during a time poeple will notice it.

    Well it worked. Now they have to worry about their jobs. I hope they all feel it was worth it. Between the protests and Covid-19 I'm not sure the league can survive. It's simple math. If the fans aren't there you don't get paid. At the very least there will be some serious cuts in salaries.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to HusTler on Wed Sep 30 19:35:00 2020
    HusTler wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Gamgee to HusTler on Wed Sep 30 2020 07:45 am

    Not sure why you replied to me. It was Nightfox that you quoted
    there above, not me. I do agree with your statement though.

    Sorry. I normally replace the To: field with All. I must have
    been rushed.

    Hmmmm.... Why replace the To: field at all? What's wrong with
    replying to the person that you're replying to?



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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to HusTler on Wed Sep 30 22:03:00 2020
    Re: Re: NFL
    By: HusTler to Gamgee on Tue Sep 29 2020 06:51 pm

    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Gamgee to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 2020 07:44 am

    I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
    Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.

    haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who
    are not in the US?

    Kapernick started the whole thing about kneeling during the
    playing of the national anthem before games, as some sort of
    "protest" against unfair treatment of black people. Many people
    found (and still do) that to be disrespectful, and a lot of folks
    gave up on the NFL (and basketball/NBA, and to some extent
    baseball/MLB) because of it.

    I keep debating with myself if I should stop watching the NFL. Unfortunatly love the game too much. I played the game myself in Jr High and High school I'm emotionally attached. I've been watching very closely this disprespectin our flag and I must say they have been behaving well. They even stopped a lo of the "show boating" but they do get penalized for that now. I doubt Kapern will ever play in the NFL again. I hope it's a wake up call to keep politics out of sports. If I see it again I will definelty stop watching the NFL. Let them burn some buildings down. Just keep your protests out of sports.


    While I was capable of playing athletic sports, eye cross dominance without proper coaching on how to deal with it held me back from doing anything
    halfway decent, so I never was interested in football. Basketball was where
    my attention span was. Same goes for soccer and hockey.

    One of my gripes with the NFL or it's players in question are how the league rejected any attempt for players who wanted to bring attention to
    non-partisan charitable causes, then all the sudden it's OK to take a knee dur ing a ceremony in the beginning of the game. If that time in the game was no big deal, they why did they strategically pick that time to protest?

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Gamgee on Thu Oct 1 08:24:23 2020
    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Gamgee to HusTler on Wed Sep 30 2020 07:35 pm

    Sorry. I normally replace the To: field with All. I must have
    been rushed.

    Hmmmm.... Why replace the To: field at all? What's wrong with
    replying to the person that you're replying to?

    Because too many users get their rocks off pointing out who the reply was to. This an open forum open to discussion to everyone. Again my apolgies. It won't happen again.

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  • From Codefenix@VERT/CONCHAOS to HusTler on Thu Oct 1 12:13:48 2020
    Re: NFL
    By: HusTler to Codefenix on Wed Sep 30 2020 08:50 am

    Hey great for them! Did they get a win last year? 2-1 is a great start!

    Yeah, they went 6-10 last season. They've been piss-poor to mediocre for years. Still entertaining to watch, for the most part :)

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to HusTler on Thu Oct 1 21:41:00 2020
    HusTler wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Gamgee to HusTler on Wed Sep 30 2020 07:35 pm

    Sorry. I normally replace the To: field with All. I must have
    been rushed.

    Hmmmm.... Why replace the To: field at all? What's wrong with
    replying to the person that you're replying to?

    Because too many users get their rocks off pointing out who the
    reply was to.

    I don't think so, unless the poster (who changed things) gets it
    wrong... Just reply to the person that you're.... replying to.

    This an open forum open to discussion to everyone.

    Agreed, but not sure what that has to do with anything.

    Again my apolgies. It won't happen again.

    No need to apologize. Just wanted to point out that you're doing
    things differently than everybody else. Why do something that
    actually *INCREASES* the chances of things getting confused? Just
    do it the established and standard way... Cheers.


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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Codefenix on Thu Oct 1 21:47:52 2020
    Re: NFL
    By: Codefenix to HusTler on Thu Oct 01 2020 12:13 pm

    Yeah, they went 6-10 last season. They've been piss-poor to mediocre for yea Still entertaining to watch, for the most part :)

    Im thinking of the Bengles season

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Gamgee on Fri Oct 2 08:14:33 2020
    Re: Re: NFL
    By: Gamgee to HusTler on Thu Oct 01 2020 09:41 pm

    Again my apolgies. It won't happen again.

    No need to apologize. Just wanted to point out that you're doing
    things differently than everybody else. Why do something that
    actually *INCREASES* the chances of things getting confused? Just
    do it the established and standard way... Cheers.

    Ok.. I'll be more careful. That said the Jets LOST again! They are now 0-3. This is going to be a long season. The Networks force you to watch the local teams so I'm stuck watching the Jets and Giants. Ack!

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  • From Hatton@VERT/THRCORN to HusTler on Fri Oct 2 16:06:41 2020
    Re: Re: NFL
    By: HusTler to Gamgee on Fri Oct 02 2020 08:14 am

    Ok.. I'll be more careful. That said the Jets LOST again! They are now 0-3. This is going to be a long season. The Networks force you to watch the local teams so I'm stuck watching the Jets and Giants. Ack!

    At least that time they got relatively close to not losing.

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  • From Codefenix@VERT/CONCHAOS to HusTler on Fri Oct 2 08:04:57 2020
    Re: NFL
    By: HusTler to Codefenix on Thu Oct 01 2020 09:47 pm

    Im thinking of the Bengles season

    Who dey?

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to HusTler on Tue Oct 6 16:02:35 2020
    Re: NFL
    By: HusTler to All on Sun Sep 27 2020 12:01 pm

    Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?

    I live just south of Green Bay, so ..... ;)

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  • From Jon Justvig@VERT/STEPPING to DaiTengu on Tue Oct 6 19:08:00 2020
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    Re: NFL
    By: HusTler to All on Sun Sep 27 2020 12:01 pm

    Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?

    I live just south of Green Bay, so ..... ;)

    I live just south west of Kansas City, MO so I really like the Chiefs, although, I also like the Las Vegas Raiders, never been to Vegas or Cali,
    but I've been a Raiders fan for over 20 years...sometimes I like to choose
    the underdog because I sometimes feel they have a lot to prove and when they win, it makes me feel good because they overcome. Another team I like is
    the Patriots, never been to New England either, but I like the team. Those three teams are my favorites.

    Sincerely,
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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to DaiTengu on Tue Oct 6 20:20:39 2020
    Re: NFL
    By: DaiTengu to HusTler on Tue Oct 06 2020 04:02 pm

    Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?

    I live just south of Green Bay, so ..... ;)

    DaiTengu

    I'm a BIG Green Bay Fan. Rogers still amazes me. Last night they moved to 4-0. KC did not look like Superbowl champs last night but still got the Win. Too bad I can't watch these teams on Sunday. Well.. I can if I want to pay for it. ;-)

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  • From DaiTengu@VERT/ENSEMBLE to HusTler on Wed Oct 7 15:36:28 2020
    Re: NFL
    By: HusTler to DaiTengu on Tue Oct 06 2020 08:20 pm

    I live just south of Green Bay, so ..... ;)

    I'm a BIG Green Bay Fan. Rogers still amazes me. Last night they moved to 4-0.

    He's doing great this year, I don't know if it's LaFeur, or if he has less distractions in his personal life.

    Maybe it's a combination of the two. He and LaFleur seem to genuinely like each other.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to DaiTengu on Wed Oct 7 19:48:26 2020
    Re: NFL
    By: DaiTengu to HusTler on Wed Oct 07 2020 03:36 pm

    He's doing great this year, I don't know if it's LaFeur, or if he has less distractions in his personal life.

    Maybe it's a combination of the two. He and LaFleur seem to genuinely like e other.

    DaiTengu

    That and I think their running the ball better then last year.

    HusTler

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