• BBSes as hobbies

    From Ivanhoe@VERT to All on Wed Jul 2 19:08:00 2008
    Hey!

    Have you ever stopped and wondered exactly what it is that attracts us BBSers to these telnet boards? If you think about it, it's an obsolete technology, offers inferior means of communicating and transferring data, and pales in comparison (aesthetically and functionally) to the internet at large. Why do we persist in keeping these BBS things alive?

    Maybe it's just me, but there's a definite innocence in this kind of communication, a hope and optimism that doesn't seem to exist in e-mail or
    the forums and online chat of the rest of the Internet. It reminds me of a time when Bulletin Boards were put up for the pupose of unifying the local community. People treated each other with respect, and spoke intelligently
    to one another. You didn't have as many people hiding behind a screen and attacking people as you do on IRC, for example.

    And of course there's always the nostalgia factor. There was something
    vaguely hopeful about the relationship between us and our technology, especially in the early nineties. Possibilities felt unlimited, we knew we were sitting on the verge of a massive social and psychological shift as a nation. It wasn't just taken for granted that a phone could be taken with
    you and used anywhere on earth, or that e-mail is something you check in your morning routine, right along with showering and brushing your teeth.

    Maybe I'm rambling at this point, but I love this format so much, and I hope
    it stays forever.

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  • From Angus McLeod@VERT to Ivanhoe on Thu Jul 3 00:29:00 2008
    Re: BBSes as hobbies
    By: Ivanhoe to All on Wed Jul 02 2008 19:08:00

    Have you ever stopped and wondered exactly what it is that attracts us BBSer to these telnet boards? If you think about it...

    I spend entirely too much time on here as it is. Now you want me to
    *THINK* about it as well?!??

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  • From Sniper@VERT to Ivanhoe on Thu Jul 3 06:30:00 2008
    Ivanhoe wrote to All <=-

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    Hey!

    Have you ever stopped and wondered exactly what it is that attracts us BBSers to these telnet boards? If you think about it, it's an obsolete technology, offers inferior means of communicating and transferring
    data, and pales in comparison (aesthetically and functionally) to the internet at large. Why do we persist in keeping these BBS things
    alive?

    That's a misconception, because the vast majority of us here were
    there back then. Maybe some of the technologies are a bit dated,
    but they are still previlant in todays world. FTP is just as viable
    then as it is today, and telnet is used widely, although some call
    it SSH, its still based on the same concept as telnet, just
    encrypted. Granted the WWW side of things made it pretty, you also
    didn't have the bandwidth you have today to be able to move that kind
    of information. Porn pictures in GIF format were around back then,
    and they are still here today. We zipped up our files back then to
    save space and let use transfer more data through our limited
    bandwidth, and even though the files have increased in size, so has
    our bandwidth increased to allow us to move them.

    Maybe it's just me, but there's a definite innocence in this kind of communication, a hope and optimism that doesn't seem to exist in e-mail
    or the forums and online chat of the rest of the Internet. It reminds
    me of a time when Bulletin Boards were put up for the pupose of
    unifying the local community. People treated each other with respect,
    and spoke intelligently to one another. You didn't have as many people hiding behind a screen and attacking people as you do on IRC, for
    example.

    I guess you were never in Fido! I can't remember a time when there
    wasn't some war of words there. :) But yes, there was alot more
    respect, but that was because the a$$holes were few compared to the
    number involved. The problem with fido today is that the jerks hung
    around while the rest left. I think the only network that I was in
    back in the day was WishNet that was relatively free of the idiots,
    but even it had one or 2 come in just to disrupt things, but Rosie
    didn't let that go on very long. :)


    And of course there's always the nostalgia factor. There was something vaguely hopeful about the relationship between us and our technology, especially in the early nineties. Possibilities felt unlimited, we
    knew we were sitting on the verge of a massive social and psychological shift as a nation. It wasn't just taken for granted that a phone could
    be taken with you and used anywhere on earth, or that e-mail is
    something you check in your morning routine, right along with showering and brushing your teeth.

    Nostalgia is the primary reason I returned. I left the BBS scene in
    96, or more direct, I shut down my board then... but by the year
    2000, I was sitting there talking to a good friend of mine who also
    ran a board and we got to reminising about the good old days and that
    sparked my interest and I started looking and well, one thing led to
    another and I started running a BBS again. My morning routine
    includes checking the BBS... :)

    Maybe I'm rambling at this point, but I love this format so much, and I hope it stays forever.

    As long as there are people that enjoy it, it will be around. With
    the capabilites Rob has included in SynchroNet, it looks to have a
    long life.



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  • From Sniper@VERT to Angus McLeod on Thu Jul 3 06:31:00 2008
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    Re: BBSes as hobbies
    By: Ivanhoe to All on Wed Jul 02 2008 19:08:00

    Have you ever stopped and wondered exactly what it is that attracts us BBSer to these telnet boards? If you think about it...

    I spend entirely too much time on here as it is. Now you want me to *THINK* about it as well?!??

    Well, if you include flying model airplanes, that's pretty much your
    entire life! :)



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  • From Angus McLeod@VERT to Sniper on Thu Jul 3 22:39:00 2008
    Re: Re: BBSes as hobbies
    By: Sniper to Ivanhoe on Thu Jul 03 2008 06:30:00

    We zipped up our files back then to save space and let use transfer
    more data through our limited bandwidth, and even though the files have increased in size, so has our bandwidth increased to allow us to move
    them.

    :-) I remember cautiously predicted that when our 28,800s came online, we might realise transfer rates as fast as five minutes per megabyte!!!!!

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  • From Angus McLeod@VERT to Sniper on Thu Jul 3 22:47:00 2008
    Re: Re: BBSes as hobbies
    By: Sniper to Angus McLeod on Thu Jul 03 2008 06:31:00

    Have you ever stopped and wondered exactly what it is that attracts us BB to these telnet boards? If you think about it...

    I spend entirely too much time on here as it is. Now you want me to *THINK* about it as well?!??

    Well, if you include flying model airplanes, that's pretty much your
    entire life! :)

    Well, there's also *LOTS* of dog-grooming, and I spend a whole lot of time looking after an elderly relative, I listen to music and read copiously, enjoy cinema, occasionally visit an attractive, blond woman who is young enough to be my daughter, work on th car, work on the house, and sometimes even work at /work/.

    So no, definately not much time for unnecessary *thinking*!

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  • From Ivanhoe@VERT to Angus McLeod on Thu Jul 3 11:26:00 2008
    Re: BBSes as hobbies
    By: Angus McLeod to Ivanhoe on Thu Jul 03 2008 00:29:00

    Re: BBSes as hobbies
    By: Ivanhoe to All on Wed Jul 02 2008 19:08:00

    Have you ever stopped and wondered exactly what it is that attracts us BB to these telnet boards? If you think about it...

    I spend entirely too much time on here as it is. Now you want me to
    *THINK* about it as well?!??


    Sure! It's good for you!

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  • From Ivanhoe@VERT to Sniper on Thu Jul 3 11:32:00 2008
    Re: Re: BBSes as hobbies
    By: Sniper to Ivanhoe on Thu Jul 03 2008 06:30:00

    Thank god. I started back in 1989/1990 and I was all of 8 or 9 years old. I would dial up all the local BBSes (there were like thirty, at least) in my hometown (Lexington, KY) and just ate it up. I loved the doors, of course, but really loved being able to communicate with people and the way everyone interacted was just so much better. I can't really put my finger on exactly why it was better, it just felt like it was. Maybe that's nostalgia or whatever, but we wouldn't be here now if there wasn't something there to return to.

    You see a lot of that versatility you mentioned in the old hardware as well as the old protocols and transfer methods like FTP, etc. that you mentioned. People are suping up C-64's now and giving them massive hard drives and ethernet and even getting them to run linux. I'm totally amazed by the resilience and flexibility of the older technologies compared to a lot of things that have already passed on even though they were developed only a few years ago. There was nothing like that early .com boom.

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  • From Mr. Microchip@VERT to Angus McLeod on Sun Jul 6 23:44:00 2008
    Re: Re: BBSes as hobbies
    By: Angus McLeod to Sniper on Thu Jul 03 2008 10:39 pm

    :-) I remember cautiously predicted that when our 28,800s came online, we might realise transfer rates as fast as five minutes per megabyte!!!!!

    I'll never forget going from 2400bps to 9600bps and thinking "Oh man, oh man!"

    It was 1991 and I went to Sears, Roebuck and Co. to pick up a "Prodigy Starter Kit" that came with a rather unique "wall-wart" plug in modem. Prodigy, an alternative to the expensive Compu$erve and dumbed-down AOL at the time was rahter interesting to say the least. It was a joint venture between Sears, Roebuck and Co. and H&R Block if I remember right.

    Today, the Sears store I bought that from (with it's wonderful marble floors and vaulted ceilings) has long ago been demolished; Prodigy's mainframes have long ago been shut down; and 9600 seems like a dinosaur.

    Times have changed!


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  • From Blakdeth@VERT to Mr. Microchip on Mon Jul 7 09:31:00 2008
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    It was 1991 and I went to Sears, Roebuck and Co. to pick up a "Prodigy Starter Kit" that came with a rather unique "wall-wart" plug in modem. Prodigy, an alternative to the expensive Compu$erve and dumbed-down AOL
    at the time was rahter interesting to say the least. It was a joint venture between Sears, Roebuck and Co. and H&R Block if I remember
    right.

    Oh man. I received one of the Prodigy Starter Kits for Christmas one year.
    Mine came with a 2400bps modem.

    -bd

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  • From Nathan Pendleton@VERT to Mr. Microchip on Mon Jul 7 16:00:00 2008
    Re: Re: BBSes as hobbies
    By: Mr. Microchip to Angus McLeod on Sun Jul 06 2008 11:44 pm

    Re: Re: BBSes as hobbies
    By: Angus McLeod to Sniper on Thu Jul 03 2008 10:39 pm

    :-) I remember cautiously predicted that when our 28,800s came online, w might realise transfer rates as fast as five minutes per megabyte!!!!!

    I'll never forget going from 2400bps to 9600bps and thinking "Oh man, oh man

    It was 1991 and I went to Sears, Roebuck and Co. to pick up a "Prodigy Start Kit" that came with a rather unique "wall-wart" plug in modem. Prodigy, an alternative to the expensive Compu$erve and dumbed-down AOL at the time was rahter interesting to say the least. It was a joint venture between Sears, Roebuck and Co. and H&R Block if I remember right.

    Today, the Sears store I bought that from (with it's wonderful marble floors and vaulted ceilings) has long ago been demolished; Prodigy's mainframes hav long ago been shut down; and 9600 seems like a dinosaur.

    Times have changed!


    Thank God for Prodigy. I remember calling AOL and getting all these free CDs sent to me under various assumed names. (still had the address, though ...
    not too smart these days) Then my friends and I would download AOHell, log in with a fake credit card generator, and harass the locals. It was pretty amazing. Even more amazing: I'm not in prison.

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  • From MRoblivious1bmf@VERT to Ivanhoe on Wed Jul 2 23:24:20 2008
    To: Ivanhoe
    .,: This is something about BBSes as hobbies,
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    Have you ever stopped and wondered exactly what it is that attracts us BBSer to these telnet boards? If you think about it, it's an obsolete technology, Maybe it's just me, but there's a definite innocence in this kind of communication, a hope and optimism that doesn't seem to exist in e-mail or the forums and online chat of the rest of the Internet. It reminds me of a time when Bulletin Boards were put up for the pupose of unifying the local

    community. People treated each other with respect, and spoke intelligently to one another.


    haw haw! you thought wrong fucker!

    look around before you make an opinion. use bbs folk are the meanest flamers on the interwebs.

    btw, you may find the bbs scene so new and quaint, but you will be gone in 3 months never to return.

    i've seen a lot.

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