OK.. here's a new one on me. I've just moved to an area that ONLY has Comcast as a provider and in there insane wisdom require authorization for POP3 even on poert 110. Now, if I can ask the gurus to possibly add a name/pw section in the POP3 area that will allow communication between me and them. Or should I just setup a mail server here on my machine and screw them?
Poindexter Fortran wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-
OK.. here's a new one on me. I've just moved to an area that ONLY has Comcast as a provider and in there insane wisdom require authorization for POP3 even on poert 110. Now, if I can ask the gurus to possibly add a name/pw section in the POP3 area that will allow communication between me and them. Or should I just setup a mail server here on my machine and screw them?
POP3 always requires a user/pass, am I missing something here? I log
into my BBS with POP3 locally, seem to recall doing so from outside of
my network, too.
I'm at a loss.... as when everything was set at 25 from my old provider, it worked. I figured just change the #'s and viola...
Another question, if I don't use the relay can I setup a virtual mail
server and send/receive directly rather than going through Comcast?
Poindexter Fortran wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-Now, I can send email out from the board BUT, when I try and send email TO the board I get the following error from Comcast:
Final-recipient: rfc822; bill.mcgarrity@tequilamockingbirdonline.net Action: failed
Status: 5.1.1
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 #5.1.0 Address rejected.
on another note, do you REALLY need to be running an email server at home? it's just another thing for spambots to hit.
Now, I can send email out from the board BUT, when I try and send
email TO the board I get the following error from Comcast:
Final-recipient: rfc822; bill.mcgarrity@tequilamockingbirdonline.net Action: failed
Status: 5.1.1
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 #5.1.0 Address rejected.
Last-attempt-Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 05:42:45 +0000
Poindexter Fortran wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-
Poindexter Fortran wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-Now, I can send email out from the board BUT, when I try and send email TO the board I get the following error from Comcast:
Final-recipient: rfc822; bill.mcgarrity@tequilamockingbirdonline.net Action: failed
Status: 5.1.1
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 #5.1.0 Address rejected.
Hmmm. is mail.tequilamockingbirdonline.net your BBS box behind a
Comcast ISP line?
Access Denied wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-
27 Dec 13 12:48, you wrote to Poindexter Fortran:
Now, I can send email out from the board BUT, when I try and send
email TO the board I get the following error from Comcast:
Final-recipient: rfc822; bill.mcgarrity@tequilamockingbirdonline.net Action: failed
Status: 5.1.1
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 #5.1.0 Address rejected.
Last-attempt-Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 05:42:45 +0000
Do you have to setup an actual account of bill.mcgarrity on your
Comcast website as a secondary user? You may be trying to send mail to
an invalid email account. At least that's what I get out of "Address rejected" from above.
Mro wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-
I'm at a loss.... as when everything was set at 25 from my old provider, it worked. I figured just change the #'s and viola...
Another question, if I don't use the relay can I setup a virtual mail
server and send/receive directly rather than going through Comcast?
why dont you just forward your email through vert?
on another note, do you REALLY need to be running an email server at
home? it's just another thing for spambots to hit.
the sysop of datastream pretty much made receiving spam his hobby, so
my servers are scrolling like crazy with all the spam. i have to setup honeypots. ---
SMTP
Transfer port: 465
Submission port: 587
POP3
Listening Port: 110
Sendmail:
Enabled and using Relay Server
Relay
Server: smtp.comcast.net Port: 587
Login is checked with my necessary login info.
Now, I can send email out from the board BUT, when I try and send email TO the board I get the following error from Comcast:
Final-recipient: rfc822; bill.mcgarrity@tequilamockingbirdonline.net
Action: failed
Another question, if I don't use the relay can I setup a virtual mail server and send/receive directly rather than going through Comcast?
why dont you just forward your email through vert?
Because I shouldn't have to. It's not a relay issue with outgoing, that works fine. It's incoming and what makes you think vert or any other mail
Final-recipient: rfc822;
bill.mcgarrity@tequilamockingbirdonline.net
Action: failed
Status: 5.1.1
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 #5.1.0 Address rejected.
Last-attempt-Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 05:42:45 +0000
Do you have to setup an actual account of bill.mcgarrity on your
Comcast website as a secondary user? You may be trying to send
mail to an invalid email account. At least that's what I get out
of "Address rejected" from above.
Why? Synchronet is handling all the SMTP and POP3 issues... I'm just relaying outgoing mail through Comcast but incoming shouldn't have anything to do with it unless they require login information when
trying to deliver it here. The thing is, nothing shows in the mail
server status window even when I have it set for "warning" that the
email is trying to be delivered.
you might have to get business class to have an open port.
Access Denied wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-
On 28 Dec 13 00:15, Bill McGarrity wrote to Access Denied:
I'm not sure. I was just throwing that out there. I have my DNS
pointing directly to my system, so when someone emails me
(at)pharcyde.org it goes directly to my Synchronet mail server. I only relay SMTP through them, which requires an authentication. I use Time Warner, so if they're anything close to the same way Comcast is setup, here's my sbbs.ini section:
[Mail]
AutoStart=true
MaxClients=10
MaxInactivity=120
Interface=
LinesPerYield=10
MaxDeliveryAttempts=50
RescanFrequency=3600
SMTPPort=25
SubmissionPort=587
POP3Port=110
DefaultCharset=IBM437
DefaultUser=Access Denied
DNSBlacklistHeader=X-DNSBL
DNSBlacklistSubject=SPAM
RelayServer=smtp-server.wi.rr.com
RelayPort=25
RelayUsername=<my_RR_email_address>
RelayPassword=<my_RR_password>
DNSServer=4.2.2.1
Options=ALLOW_POP3 | RELAY_TX | ALLOW_RELAY | SMTP_AUTH_VIA_IP
MaxMsgSize=10485760
Poindexter Fortran wrote to Mro <=-
you might have to get business class to have an open port.
Or use a mail redirection service. I have Comcast and they block port
25 outbound to prevent spambots. I use DNSExit.com; they are my primary mail exchanger and accept mail for my domain on port 25 as usual. They relay mail to me on a different port.
I get mail service and a primary mail exchanger that's in a colo and up 24/7.
Poindexter Fortran wrote to Mro <=-
you might have to get business class to have an open port.
Or use a mail redirection service. I have Comcast and they block port
25 outbound to prevent spambots. I use DNSExit.com; they are my primary mail exchanger and accept mail for my domain on port 25 as usual. They relay mail to me on a different port.
I get mail service and a primary mail exchanger that's in a colo and up 24/7.
OK.... as per mro's suggestion I contacted Comcast. Seems I needed to fill out a form stating that I am the executor of the email server and that I've taken steps to insure spam isn't passed. I explained I use DNSBL so they're processing my request to open my domain up. So hopefully this shit will be resoved within the next 24 hours... lol. I find it funny Comcast sends me 4-5 emails a day peddling their shit and I have to jump through hoops.
Thank for this Nick.... my settings are similar.
OK.... as per mro's suggestion I contacted Comcast. Seems I needed to
fill out a form stating that I am the executor of the email server and that I've taken steps to insure spam isn't passed. I explained I use
DNSBL so they're processing my request to open my domain up. So
hopefully this shit will be resoved within the next 24 hours... lol. I find it funny Comcast sends me 4-5 emails a day peddling their shit
and I have to jump through hoops.
Thanks mro and Nick for the help... appreciate it.
Mro wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-
Re: Re: POP3...
By: Bill McGarrity to All on Sat Dec 28 2013 02:56 pm
OK.... as per mro's suggestion I contacted Comcast. Seems I needed to fill out a form stating that I am the executor of the email server and that I've taken steps to insure spam isn't passed. I explained I use DNSBL so they're processing my request to open my domain up. So hopefully this shit will be resoved within the next 24 hours... lol. I find it funny Comcast sends me 4-5 emails a day peddling their shit and I have to jump through hoops.
just so you know... it is now your ASS if someone goes on your bbs and uses it for spam and you are reported.
you should disable the ability for users to send out email.
Access Denied wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-
On 28 Dec 13 14:52, Bill McGarrity wrote to Access Denied:
Thank for this Nick.... my settings are similar.
Though I take it none of it was helpful in fixing your current
situation? :)
Maybe it's just Comcast. Over the years I've heard plenty of bad things about them. Who do you use for your tequilamockingbirdonline.net
address or whatever it is? Can you use them for POP3?
Access Denied wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-
On 28 Dec 13 14:56, Bill McGarrity wrote to All:
OK.... as per mro's suggestion I contacted Comcast. Seems I needed to
fill out a form stating that I am the executor of the email server and that I've taken steps to insure spam isn't passed. I explained I use
DNSBL so they're processing my request to open my domain up. So
hopefully this shit will be resoved within the next 24 hours... lol. I find it funny Comcast sends me 4-5 emails a day peddling their shit
and I have to jump through hoops.
Thanks mro and Nick for the help... appreciate it.
WOW! Well, on a damn good note, at least they were helpful when you called. I could call a handful of ISPs around here and they wouldn't
have a clue in the world what you were referring to.
Hope that's the answer and you're working properly with no
configuration changes! :)
I can also put a delay on when the email gets sent or till I can review it. Appreciate the info...
Maybe it's just Comcast. Over the years I've heard plenty of bad
things about them. Who do you use for your
tequilamockingbirdonline.net address or whatever it is? Can you
use them for POP3?
They weren't too bad when I spoke to them. Actually, did everything
via online chat with one of there techs. That is my domain. I
purchased it through GoDaddy and use No-Ip as my dns although I don't
have to. I could use my dns server here. It's good cause I'm still
with a dynamic IP address and their DUC will update it automatically
if it should ever change. Have it set for every 5 minutes to update
ir needed.
Yes, there were very helpful and knew exactly what I was talking about
and had the answer for me within 5 minutes.
Hope that's the answer and you're working properly with no
configuration changes! :)
They said I'd hear back from the department in charge of domain restrictions within 24 hours so hopefully tomorrow. Till then, it's business as usual. :)
about IPV6 and if it was available in my area yet. The first idiot told me it has been deployed in my area.. so I started asking more questions, to which he had to refer me to someone else. As soon as the second guy entered the chat his words were "we have not deployed IPV6 to residential customers yet, here's an 800 number (which I'm guessing is just a regular customer support line, and nothing specific) to call and ask anymore IPV6 related questions - or to check for availability, etc.". So, the first guy had no idea what he was talking about, and the second just flat out said no and threw me a crappy redirection so that I drop the issue, most likely. :)
the chat his words were "we have not deployed IPV6 to residential customers yet, here's an 800 number (which I'm guessing is just a regular customer support line, and nothing specific) to call and ask anymore IPV6 related questions - or to check for availability, etc.". So, the first guy had no idea what he was talking about, and the second just flat out said no and threw me a crappy redirection so that I drop the issue, most likely. :)
Mro wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-
Re: Re: POP3...
By: Bill McGarrity to Mro on Sun Dec 29 2013 01:05 am
I can also put a delay on when the email gets sent or till I can review it. Appreciate the info...
how are you going to do that?
Access Denied wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-
On 29 Dec 13 01:14, Bill McGarrity wrote to Access Denied:
Yes, there were very helpful and knew exactly what I was talking about
and had the answer for me within 5 minutes.
That's awesome. I recently hit up Time Warner's online chat feature to
ask about IPV6 and if it was available in my area yet. The first idiot told me it has been deployed in my area.. so I started asking more questions, to which he had to refer me to someone else. As soon as the second guy entered the chat his words were "we have not deployed IPV6
to residential customers yet, here's an 800 number (which I'm guessing
is just a regular customer support line, and nothing specific) to call
and ask anymore IPV6 related questions - or to check for availability, etc.". So, the first guy had no idea what he was talking about, and the second just flat out said no and threw me a crappy redirection so that
I drop the issue, most likely. :)
Hope that's the answer and you're working properly with no
configuration changes! :)
They said I'd hear back from the department in charge of domain restrictions within 24 hours so hopefully tomorrow. Till then, it's business as usual. :)
Excellent. I'd like to know the outcome, so keep us informed!
OK.... as per mro's suggestion I contacted Comcast. Seems I needed to fill out a form stating that I am the executor of the email server and that I've taken steps to insure spam isn't passed. I explained I use DNSBL so they're processing my request to open my domain up.
That's something that frustrates me about internet companies (and
others). They hire people who know nothing about their services and technology, train them a bit, and then put them on the phones doing customer support. There's nothing really wrong with that, but
sometimes it frustrates me that most of the time, you get a customer support agent that is only able to forward you to someone else, or may even give you wrong information. I suppose it has to be like that
though, because there just aren't enough people within the company who know all about their services to provide all the customer support.
there's some good tech people in the milwaukee office, but it's hard
to get to them. first you get past the call center. i used to have a direct number but i misplaced it.
me. Charter though, anything I've heard about them is terrible. ;)
That's something that frustrates me about internet companies (and others). They hire people who know nothing about their services and technology,
train them a bit, and then put them on the phones doing customer support.
thanksgiving 2012, my internet went down. I called business support, and on thanksgiving within 2 hours, i had someone at my home fixing my internet. So i can't complain with that kind of service.. You don't get that from home internet.
That's something that frustrates me about internet companies (and others). They hire people who know nothing about their services and technology, train them a bit, and then put them on the phones doing customer support.
Wide open West does that for sure... I brought my Synchronet bbs up not
long ago, and i wanted to get back my usenet access for the bbs.. So i couldn't find the information online from their website, so i called customer support. The guy at level 1 support had no clue what a newsgroup was. He was like "What news site are you trying to get to?" and i'm all like, "no man, newsgroups... have you never heard of newsgroups? there's like a million of them online. Usenet, you've never heard of that?" and he was like "no, never heard of that... Must be something new..."
I asked him how long he had been using the internet and he told me pretty much all his life... That shows his age.. :)
Wide open West does that for sure... I brought my Synchronet bbs up not
long ago, and i wanted to get back my usenet access for the bbs.. So i couldn't find the information online from their website, so i called customer support. The guy at level 1 support had no clue what a newsgroup
That's good to hear. Last time I spoke with Comcast, they said pretty much unequivocally that the only way to get inbound SMTP on port 25 was to get a business class account. Maybe I'll call back and see if I get someone a little more knowledgeable.
residential account.... so you're right, they want me to convert over to a commercial one. I asked them why originally when I spoke to a rep before I moved into the area they said they'd be no issues, they just go back to the "Terms and Conditions" bullshit. Told them they better train their 1st
tier support a little better. Assholes...
Mro wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-
Re: Re: POP3...
By: Bill McGarrity to Poindexter Fortran on Mon Dec 30 2013 02:52 pm
residential account.... so you're right, they want me to convert over to a commercial one. I asked them why originally when I spoke to a rep before I moved into the area they said they'd be no issues, they just go back to the "Terms and Conditions" bullshit. Told them they better train their 1st
tier support a little better. Assholes...
well, i can understand why they dont want residential customers to run servers on their services. especially email servers.
there's reasons for these rules, and it's almost always some abusive customer. ---
heh.. On one hand that seems a little surprising, but honestly I
haven't used newsgroups very much for a while. Occasionally I read
through & post on some newsgroups though. Unfortunately, it seems
that many of the groups are full of spam.
What I find most amusing is, they're not blocking outbound mail....
only incoming. Seems rather ass-backwards if you ask me when
trying to reduce spam.
mark lewis wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013, Bill McGarrity wrote to Mro:
What I find most amusing is, they're not blocking outbound mail....
only incoming. Seems rather ass-backwards if you ask me when
trying to reduce spam.
their concern is protecting their customers... that means stopping
inbound spam... it also affords them the ability to set up huge mail
pots like honey pots so as to accumulate all that mail for analysis
which lets them share malware signatures and evidence with network security bods...
I told both of them that I was signing up as a business customer, and
i need a block of ip's and no ports blocked... Charter told me that
wasn't possible (at the time) with them and they block port 25 and a
few others.. Knology told me, look, you're a business account, and we
want to support you in any way, and we don't block any ports
whatsoever.
So that made my choice for me, and i've been a business customer of
theirs since about 2001. :) Charter could have had that business
because they actually had decent pricing and a lot more bandwidth, but knology gives me great support as a business too.. Granted, i pay more
per month, but thanksgiving 2012, my internet went down. I called
business support, and on thanksgiving within 2 hours, i had someone at
my home fixing my internet. So i can't complain with that kind of service.. You don't get that from home internet.
there's reasons for these rules, and it's almost always some abusive customer.
OK.... as per mro's suggestion I contacted Comcast. Seems I needed to fill >> out a form stating that I am the executor of the email server and that
I've taken steps to insure spam isn't passed. I explained I use DNSBL so
they're processing my request to open my domain up.
That's good to hear. Last time I spoke with Comcast, they said pretty much unequivocally that the only way to get inbound SMTP on port 25 was to get
a business class account. Maybe I'll call back and see if I get someone a little more knowledgeable.
What I find most amusing is, they're not blocking outbound mail.... only incoming. Seems rather ass-backwards if you ask me when trying to reduce spam.
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