• [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: install:win

    From wiki.synchro.net@VERT to All on Tue Feb 4 21:07:25 2014
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by ecbbs:
    Added link and text re: Windows installer that pulls from CVS & nightly builds. ---
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  • From wiki.synchro.net@VERT to All on Tue Feb 4 21:08:41 2014
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by ecbbs:
    Fixed ftp link to nightly build.
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  • From wiki.synchro.net@VERT to All on Tue Feb 4 21:38:56 2014
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by deuce:
    [Installation] Move CVS/latest installer to after the official one.
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  • From echicken@VERT to wiki.synchro.net on Wed Feb 5 00:37:54 2014
    Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: install:win
    By: wiki.synchro.net to All on Tue Feb 04 2014 21:07:25

    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by ecbbs:
    Added link and text re: Windows installer that pulls from CVS & nightly builds.

    A note to the curious:

    Cyan and I put this installer together today. It pulls the latest ctrl, exec, node1-4, text, web and xtrn directories from CVS, then downloads the latest nightly build and unpacks it into the exec directory. It may need some work yet, but should produce a fresh installation that's quite up-to-date. (We've tested it and found it to work on Windows XP, 7, and 2008 so far, and it will probably work on others.)

    The SBBSCTRL environment variable gets set appropriately, and sbbs.dll is copied to the system directory (I can't remember if this is necessary, or if we could just add the 'exec' directory to the PATH.) If anyone can think of any new-installation/upgrade pitfalls that we may need to address, let me know.

    Hopefully this makes things easier for newcomers (and others) doing fresh installs. The existing upgrade process is a bit confusing for those who fail to read the documentation that comes with each upgrade archive. :D

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  • From wiki.synchro.net@VERT to All on Tue Feb 4 21:59:46 2014
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by ecbbs:
    Amended text per Deuce's edits ('below' becomes 'above',) linked to installer executable on CVS rather than CoA website.
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  • From wiki.synchro.net@VERT to All on Tue Feb 4 22:40:56 2014
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by digital man:
    [Installation] Removed reference to the non-supported non-working daily snapshot installer (tsk.. trolls)
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  • From echicken@VERT to wiki.synchro.net on Wed Feb 5 00:51:59 2014
    Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: install:win
    By: wiki.synchro.net to All on Tue Feb 04 2014 21:38:56

    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by deuce:
    [Installation] Move CVS/latest installer to after the official one.

    Doesn't bode well ... this is for people who have trouble reading documentation. :D :D :D

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to echicken on Tue Feb 4 22:53:52 2014
    Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: install:win
    By: echicken to wiki.synchro.net on Wed Feb 05 2014 12:37 am

    Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: install:win
    By: wiki.synchro.net to All on Tue Feb 04 2014 21:07:25

    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by ecbbs:
    Added link and text re: Windows installer that pulls from CVS &
    nightly builds.

    A note to the curious:

    Cyan and I put this installer together today. It pulls the latest ctrl, exec, node1-4, text, web and xtrn directories from CVS, then downloads the latest nightly build and unpacks it into the exec directory. It may need some work yet, but should produce a fresh installation that's quite up-to-date. (We've tested it and found it to work on Windows XP, 7, and 2008 so far, and it will probably work on others.)

    The SBBSCTRL environment variable gets set appropriately, and sbbs.dll is copied to the system directory (I can't remember if this is necessary, or
    if we could just add the 'exec' directory to the PATH.) If anyone can
    think of any new-installation/upgrade pitfalls that we may need to address, let me know.

    Hopefully this makes things easier for newcomers (and others) doing fresh installs. The existing upgrade process is a bit confusing for those who fail to read the documentation that comes with each upgrade archive. :D

    The contents of CVS do not a working Windows install make. Please don't do this
    as your testing environments and knowledge pre-requisites are insufficient.

    digital man

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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT to echicken on Wed Feb 5 04:12:00 2014
    echicken wrote to wiki.synchro.net <=-

    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by ecbbs:
    Added link and text re: Windows installer that pulls from CVS & nightly builds.

    A note to the curious:

    Cyan and I put this installer together today. It pulls the latest
    ctrl, exec, node1-4, text, web and xtrn directories from CVS, then downloads the latest nightly build and unpacks it into the exec
    directory. It may need some work yet, but should produce a fresh installation that's quite up-to-date. (We've tested it and found it to work on Windows XP, 7, and 2008 so far, and it will probably work on others.)

    The SBBSCTRL environment variable gets set appropriately, and sbbs.dll
    is copied to the system directory (I can't remember if this is
    necessary, or if we could just add the 'exec' directory to the PATH.)
    If anyone can think of any new-installation/upgrade pitfalls that we
    may need to address, let me know.

    Hopefully this makes things easier for newcomers (and others) doing
    fresh installs. The existing upgrade process is a bit confusing for
    those who fail to read the documentation that comes with each upgrade archive. :D

    Quick question.... I have certain .js files modified in the exec folder. Being that's the case, sometime in the future, if you're ever thinking about doing it, can there be a cfg file that will allow us to block certain files from being updated?

    Just a thought... :)

    Thanks


    Bill

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  • From echicken@VERT to wiki.synchro.net on Wed Feb 5 10:03:40 2014
    Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: install:win
    By: echicken to wiki.synchro.net on Wed Feb 05 2014 00:37:54

    The SBBSCTRL environment variable gets set appropriately, and sbbs.dll is copied to the system directory (I can't remember if this is necessary, or

    Whoops - that ought to be sbbsexec.dll. I believe this thing has already been killed anyhow. It was fun, though. :D

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  • From echicken@VERT to Bill McGarrity on Wed Feb 5 10:04:55 2014
    Re: Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: install:win
    By: Bill McGarrity to echicken on Wed Feb 05 2014 04:12:00

    Quick question.... I have certain .js files modified in the exec folder. Being that's the case, sometime in the future, if you're ever thinking about doing it, can there be a cfg file that will allow us to block certain files from being updated?

    This wasn't an updater, but an installer.

    FWIW, if you modify JS files, etc., they should go into the mods directory (that's what it's for.) That's the way to 'block' them from being overwritten.

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  • From echicken@VERT to Digital Man on Wed Feb 5 10:12:54 2014
    Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: install:win
    By: Digital Man to echicken on Tue Feb 04 2014 22:53:52

    The contents of CVS do not a working Windows install make. Please don't
    do this as your testing environments and knowledge pre-requisites are insufficient.

    While I know that the contents of CVS aren't always going to be "working", I'd be curious to know what might be missing. It seemed like, coupled with a nightly build, the ctrl, exec, text, web and xtrn directories from CVS ought to do it. I accept that this is not the case, but am curious as to why.

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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT to echicken on Wed Feb 5 12:22:00 2014
    echicken wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-


    Quick question.... I have certain .js files modified in the exec folder. Being that's the case, sometime in the future, if you're ever thinking about doing it, can there be a cfg file that will allow us to block certain files from being updated?

    This wasn't an updater, but an installer.

    OK... my bad. The way it reads at 3AM could have been my fault... lol!!

    FWIW, if you modify JS files, etc., they should go into the mods
    directory (that's what it's for.) That's the way to 'block' them from being overwritten.

    Mmmm.... I should have known better... thanks ec...


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  • From Deuce@VERT to Bill McGarrity on Wed Feb 5 12:28:15 2014
    Re: Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: install:win
    By: Bill McGarrity to echicken on Wed Feb 05 2014 04:12 am

    Quick question.... I have certain .js files modified in the exec folder. Being that's the case, sometime in the future, if you're ever thinking
    about doing it, can there be a cfg file that will allow us to block certain files from being updated?

    Modified/new files belong in the mods directory. The mods directory isn't modified and is searched first when looking for JS and BIN files.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to echicken on Wed Feb 5 13:46:10 2014
    Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: install:win
    By: echicken to Digital Man on Wed Feb 05 2014 10:12 am

    Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: install:win
    By: Digital Man to echicken on Tue Feb 04 2014 22:53:52

    The contents of CVS do not a working Windows install make. Please
    don't do this as your testing environments and knowledge
    pre-requisites are insufficient.

    While I know that the contents of CVS aren't always going to be "working", I'd be curious to know what might be missing. It seemed like, coupled with a nightly build, the ctrl, exec, text, web and xtrn directories from CVS ought to do it. I accept that this is not the case, but am curious as to why.

    I didn't try your installer, so I can't give a comprehensive list of the problems. I know I personally encounter and address dozens of issues when creating a Windows installer package and I've been doing it for over 20 years (so I have a good idea what to look for and where the common gotchas are).

    An exercise of installing the BBS, creating user accounts, posting messages, uploading and downloading files (of different types), joining a QWK network, joining an FTN network, etc. (basically using all the features of the BBS) would eventually highlight all the issues. But that takes hours of work and a good idea of what "working" actually looks like.

    I guess instead (or in addition) you could take a working Synchronet-Windows installer, install it on a virgin system, and then compare all the directory contents and registry contents and see what's different to get a clue where to look for the deficiencies. I also do a lot of tweaking of the .cnf files through-out the process of creating and debugging a Windows-Install package, so
    those file contents would need a close inspection to find out what's lacking.

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  • From Bill McGarrity@VERT to Deuce on Wed Feb 5 17:01:00 2014
    Deuce wrote to Bill McGarrity <=-


    Quick question.... I have certain .js files modified in the exec folder. Being that's the case, sometime in the future, if you're ever thinking
    about doing it, can there be a cfg file that will allow us to block certain files from being updated?

    Modified/new files belong in the mods directory. The mods directory
    isn't modified and is searched first when looking for JS and BIN files.

    Thanks.. ec filled me in on that little gem... :)


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  • From echicken@VERT to Digital Man on Wed Feb 5 17:16:49 2014
    Re: [wiki.synchro.net] page changed: install:win
    By: Digital Man to echicken on Wed Feb 05 2014 13:46:10

    An exercise of installing the BBS, creating user accounts, posting messages, uploading and downloading files (of different types), joining
    a QWK network, joining an FTN network, etc. (basically using all the features of the BBS) would eventually highlight all the issues. But that takes hours of work and a good idea of what "working" actually looks
    like.

    I guess instead (or in addition) you could take a working Synchronet-Windows installer, install it on a virgin system, and then compare all the directory contents and registry contents and see what's different to get a clue where to look for the deficiencies. I also do a lot of tweaking of the .cnf files through-out the process of creating
    and debugging a Windows-Install package, so those file contents would
    need a close inspection to find out what's lacking.

    Interesting and informative. Thanks!

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  • From wiki.synchro.net@VERT to All on Sat Aug 15 03:20:11 2015
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by digital man:
    [Upgrade]
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  • From wiki.synchro.net@VERT to All on Sat Aug 15 03:21:33 2015
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by digital man:
    [Installation] Updated for v3.16c
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  • From wiki.synchro.net@VERT to All on Sun Sep 25 14:03:21 2016
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by Buckaroo:
    Added existing system upgrade for 3.16c to 3.17
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  • From wiki.synchro.net@VERT to All on Fri Jan 19 00:58:43 2018
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by digital man:
    [Upgrade Existing 3.16c] Replaced with the new install:dev page
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  • From wiki.synchro.net@VERT to All on Sun Feb 18 01:33:25 2018
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by digital man: [Prerequisites] Added link to MSVC2015 redist installer.
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  • From wiki.synchro.net@VERT to All on Tue Jan 1 22:33:28 2019
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by digital man:
    Changed sbbs316c to sbbs317b
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  • From wiki.synchro.net@VERT to All on Mon May 20 16:16:29 2019
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by digital man:
    [Installation] Added example of installation package contents
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  • From wiki.synchro.net@VERT to All on Mon May 20 16:51:36 2019
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by digital man:
    Added screen shots from Windows installer with more instructions
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  • From wiki.synchro.net@VERT to All on Mon May 20 17:04:57 2019
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by digital man:
    Added control panel splash screen
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  • From wiki.synchro.net@VERT to All on Mon May 20 17:42:30 2019
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by digital man:
    [See Also] Added link to setup instructions
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  • From wiki.synchro.net@VERT to All on Mon May 20 17:50:31 2019
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by digital man:
    [See Also] Added tags
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  • From wiki.synchro.net@VERT to All on Mon Sep 14 19:42:58 2020
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by digital man: [Prerequisites] Simplify this redist stuff (only the 2015 version is need, and point to the latest)
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  • From wiki.synchro.net@VERT to All on Sun Sep 20 22:34:50 2020
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by digital man:
    updated for v3.18b
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  • From wiki.synchro.net@VERT to All on Wed Nov 18 00:37:34 2020
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by digital man: [Prerequisites] I guess we do still use the old MSVCR100.DLL after all
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  • From digital man@VERT to wiki.synchro.net on Wed Dec 30 18:46:10 2020
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by digital man: [Prerequisites] Mention "x86" for MSVC 2015 CRTL package
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  • From digital man@VERT to wiki.synchro.net on Sun Jan 16 02:49:16 2022
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by digital man: [Prerequisites] updated link to MSVC 2010 SP1 redist package
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  • From Andre@VERT to wiki.synchro.net on Tue May 24 17:36:35 2022
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by Andre:
    [Installation] Changed link to current release and http instead of ftp.
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  • From digital man@VERT to wiki.synchro.net on Wed Mar 20 20:04:21 2024
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by digital man: [Prerequisites] Bold "x86", cause 3 times isn't enough :-)
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  • From digital man@VERT to wiki.synchro.net on Sat Apr 6 19:04:34 2024
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by digital man:
    [Windows Services] Remove (outdated) list of example NT-based OSes
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  • From digital man@VERT to wiki.synchro.net on Sat Jan 4 17:20:03 2025
    Wiki edit of http://wiki.synchro.net/install:win by digital man:
    [Installation] Updated for v3.20b
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