• Sharing Local Message Area With QWK Network

    From DesotoFireflite@VERT to All on Fri Oct 30 04:06:26 2015
    Just wondering, is there an easy way to share a local message area, with a networked QWK message area easly. I have one local message echo, that I want to port into a new QWK network a few of us are starting, where messages from both areas will be in both areas. Thanks

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  • From Nightfox@VERT to DesotoFireflite on Fri Oct 30 07:38:53 2015
    Just wondering, is there an easy way to share a local message area, with a networked QWK message area easly. I have one local message echo, that I
    want
    to port into a new QWK network a few of us are starting, where messages
    from
    both areas will be in both areas. Thanks

    I'm not sure if there's a better way than this, but if you use the same internal code for both message areas, I believe that will achieve what you want. Note that if you change the internal code, you'll also have to rename the corresponding files for that message area to match the internal code (otherwise you'll lose any existing messages in that area).

    That seems a little kludgy though.. I'd be curious if there's a
    better/cleaner way to do it.

    Nightfox

  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT to Nightfox on Fri Oct 30 14:43:41 2015
    Re: Sharing Local Message Area With QWK Network
    By: Nightfox to DesotoFireflite on Fri Oct 30 2015 07:38 am

    I'm not sure if there's a better way than this, but if you use the same internal code for both message areas, I believe that will achieve what you want. Note that if you change the internal code, you'll also have to rename the corresponding files for that message area to match the internal code (otherwise you'll lose any existing messages in that area).

    That seems a little kludgy though.. I'd be curious if there's a better/cleaner way to do it.

    That's what I was planning on doing if I didn't hear back from anyone. I know it sounds kludgy, but I don't know what else to do, as I can't find any reference on it. Thanks

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to DesotoFireflite on Fri Oct 30 15:24:01 2015
    Re: Sharing Local Message Area With QWK Network
    By: DesotoFireflite to All on Fri Oct 30 2015 04:06 am

    Just wondering, is there an easy way to share a local message area, with a networked QWK message area easly. I have one local message echo, that I want to port into a new QWK network a few of us are starting, where messages from both areas will be in both areas. Thanks

    If you use the same "internal code" value (set in SCFG) for both areas, they will share the same message base files (and thus the same messages). But I'm not clear why you'd want to do that.

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT to Digital Man on Sat Oct 31 04:26:21 2015
    Re: Sharing Local Message Area With QWK Network
    By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Fri Oct 30 2015 03:24 pm

    If you use the same "internal code" value (set in SCFG) for both areas, they will share the same message base files (and thus the same messages). But I'm not clear why you'd want to do that.

    I'm hosting an echo on a local QWK network, that has the same theme as a local message base I have, so I thought I would tie them togeather the way you have with synchronet QWK, and Synchronet FidoNet, so the same messages will appear in both areas.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to DesotoFireflite on Sat Oct 31 03:46:05 2015
    Re: Sharing Local Message Area With QWK Network
    By: DesotoFireflite to Digital Man on Sat Oct 31 2015 04:26 am

    Re: Sharing Local Message Area With QWK Network
    By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Fri Oct 30 2015 03:24 pm

    If you use the same "internal code" value (set in SCFG) for both areas, they will share the same message base files (and thus the same messages). But I'm not clear why you'd want to do that.

    I'm hosting an echo on a local QWK network, that has the same theme as a local message base I have, so I thought I would tie them togeather the way you have with synchronet QWK, and Synchronet FidoNet, so the same messages will appear in both areas.

    Okay, but what you described is not really what I've done with the Synchronet-related message areas that are gated betwen FidoNet and DOVE-Net (and at one time, USENET). I used *one* message area and turned on the "gate between net types" option in SCFG for that message area. Having a message area in a "local" group gated with a networked message area in a different group doesn't really make sense to me and will likely cause issues (e.g. posting in the "local" area won't have the same logic applied as when posting to the area in the "network" group).

    digital man

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT to Digital Man on Sat Oct 31 08:22:11 2015
    Re: Sharing Local Message Area With QWK Network
    By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Sat Oct 31 2015 03:46 am

    Okay, but what you described is not really what I've done with the Synchronet-related message areas that are gated betwen FidoNet and DOVE-Net (and at one time, USENET). I used *one* message area and turned on the "gate between net types" option in SCFG for that message area. Having a message area in a "local" group gated with a networked message area in a different group doesn't really make sense to me and will likely cause issues (e.g. posting in the "local" area won't have the same logic applied as when posting to the area in the "network" group).

    OK, if that is not recomended, would it be ok when I set up the network on my end, just to reference the one local area, which coiencidently has the same QWK name as we planned to use. This way their would only be one echo with this name, and it would serve as my local message area, but it would be networked over the hub as part of it's network. Is that possable, or would it cease to function as a local area on my end. Thanks

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to DesotoFireflite on Sat Oct 31 12:34:03 2015
    Re: Sharing Local Message Area With QWK Network
    By: DesotoFireflite to Digital Man on Sat Oct 31 2015 08:22 am

    Re: Sharing Local Message Area With QWK Network
    By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Sat Oct 31 2015 03:46 am

    Okay, but what you described is not really what I've done with the Synchronet-related message areas that are gated betwen FidoNet and DOVE-Net (and at one time, USENET). I used *one* message area and turned on the "gate between net types" option in SCFG for that message area. Having a message area in a "local" group gated with a networked message area in a different group doesn't really make sense to me and will likely cause issues (e.g. posting in the "local" area won't have the same logic applied as when posting to the area in the "network" group).

    OK, if that is not recomended, would it be ok when I set up the network on my end, just to reference the one local area, which coiencidently has the same QWK name as we planned to use. This way their would only be one echo with this name, and it would serve as my local message area, but it would be networked over the hub as part of it's network. Is that possable, or would it cease to function as a local area on my end. Thanks

    That's totally possible. Now, with QWK, what matters are the conference numbers (not the names, so much). In this example, that one area will have a different "thousands" place conference number than areas from another group.

    You didn't mention whether your BBS would be the hub or a node of the QWK network (or both), so how you account for this massive gap in the QWK conference numbering will be different depending on whether your BBS is the hub or just a node of the network. But yes, you can do that.

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT to Digital Man on Sat Oct 31 19:34:06 2015
    Re: Sharing Local Message Area With QWK Network
    By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Sat Oct 31 2015 12:34 pm

    Okay, but what you described is not really what I've done with the
    Synchronet-related message areas that are gated betwen FidoNet and
    DOVE-Net (and at one time, USENET). I used *one* message area and
    turned on the "gate between net types" option in SCFG for that
    message area. Having a message area in a "local" group gated with
    a networked message area in a different group doesn't really make
    sense to me and will likely cause issues (e.g. posting in the
    "local" area won't have the same logic applied as when posting to
    the area in the "network" group).

    OK, if that is not recomended, would it be ok when I set up the
    network on my end, just to reference the one local area, which
    coiencidently has the same QWK name as we planned to use. This way
    their would only be one echo with this name, and it would serve as my
    local message area, but it would be networked over the hub as part of
    it's network. Is that possable, or would it cease to function as a
    local area on my end. Thanks

    That's totally possible. Now, with QWK, what matters are the conference numbers (not the names, so much). In this example, that one area will have a different "thousands" place conference number than areas from another group.

    You didn't mention whether your BBS would be the hub or a node of the QWK network (or both), so how you account for this massive gap in the QWK conference numbering will be different depending on whether your BBS is the hub or just a node of the network. But yes, you can do that.

    I will be just a node DM. This is getting complicated, i was hoping this would be rather a simple thing, but i see I may have opened a can of worms :) Thanks for your input, I really appreciate it.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to DesotoFireflite on Sun Nov 1 01:45:31 2015
    Re: Sharing Local Message Area With QWK Network
    By: DesotoFireflite to Digital Man on Sat Oct 31 2015 07:34 pm

    Re: Sharing Local Message Area With QWK Network
    By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Sat Oct 31 2015 12:34 pm

    Okay, but what you described is not really what I've done with the DM>> Synchronet-related message areas that are gated betwen FidoNet and DM>> DOVE-Net (and at one time, USENET). I used *one* message area and DM>> turned on the "gate between net types" option in SCFG for that
    message area. Having a message area in a "local" group gated with DM>> a networked message area in a different group doesn't really make DM>> sense to me and will likely cause issues (e.g. posting in the
    "local" area won't have the same logic applied as when posting to DM>> the area in the "network" group).

    OK, if that is not recomended, would it be ok when I set up the
    network on my end, just to reference the one local area, which
    coiencidently has the same QWK name as we planned to use. This way
    their would only be one echo with this name, and it would serve as my
    local message area, but it would be networked over the hub as part of
    it's network. Is that possable, or would it cease to function as a
    local area on my end. Thanks

    That's totally possible. Now, with QWK, what matters are the conference numbers (not the names, so much). In this example, that one area will have a different "thousands" place conference number than areas from another group.

    You didn't mention whether your BBS would be the hub or a node of the QWK network (or both), so how you account for this massive gap in the QWK conference numbering will be different depending on whether your BBS is the hub or just a node of the network. But yes, you can do that.

    I will be just a node DM. This is getting complicated, i was hoping this would be rather a simple thing, but i see I may have opened a can of worms :) Thanks for your input, I really appreciate it.

    As a node, it's actually pretty simple. You just need to decide which QWK conference number (on the hub) you're going to gate your local message area to, then select that in SCFG->Networks->QWK->Hubs->YourHUB->Subs. You don't need to move the message area (e.g. from the Local message group to a different group), but it might confuse your users to see networked messages in a Local group.

    digital man

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT to Digital Man on Sun Nov 1 06:01:28 2015
    Re: Sharing Local Message Area With QWK Network
    By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Sun Nov 01 2015 01:45 am

    As a node, it's actually pretty simple. You just need to decide which QWK conference number (on the hub) you're going to gate your local message area to, then select that in SCFG->Networks->QWK->Hubs->YourHUB->Subs. You don't need to move the message area (e.g. from the Local message group to a different group), but it might confuse your users to see networked messages in a Local group.

    Thank You DM.... I've already alearted users to the fact that it was going to be shared. It's a flea market echo, so it will be a win win for everyone. Thanks again.

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