• Night Owl Shareware

    From Daryl Stout@VERT to MRO on Wed Jun 1 10:49:00 2016
    He even has the old Night Owl CD-Rom collections. I had sent mine to Sean Dennis, but apparently, one can re-download those off of the internet.

    i have all the nightowl cds if anybody needs anything.

    IIRC, when I tried to put them online, the virus scanner I was running
    at the time (either McAfee or F-Prot) noted that many of the files were supposedly "infected".

    Daryl

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  • From Mro@VERT to Daryl Stout on Wed Jun 1 22:34:21 2016
    Re: Night Owl Shareware
    By: Daryl Stout to MRO on Wed Jun 01 2016 10:49 am


    IIRC, when I tried to put them online, the virus scanner I was running
    at the time (either McAfee or F-Prot) noted that many of the files were supposedly "infected".



    they are probably false positives.
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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT to MRO on Thu Jun 2 12:52:00 2016
    IIRC, when I tried to put them online, the virus scanner I was running at the time (either McAfee or F-Prot) noted that many of the files were supposedly "infected".

    they are probably false positives.

    Probably so. I use the IObit Malware Fighter, and also the Sophos
    Virus Removal Tool.

    Too bad there isn't a command line one to use on BBS's anymore, such
    as with THDPro. One used to be able to use either McAfee or F-Prot, but
    I don't think a command line scanner exists anymore.

    Daryl

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  • From Al@VERT to Daryl Stout on Thu Jun 2 16:31:00 2016
    On 06/02/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

    Too bad there isn't a command line one to use on BBS's anymore, such
    as with THDPro. One used to be able to use either McAfee or F-Prot, but
    I don't think a command line scanner exists anymore.

    There is clam-av. It's the main av on linux but I think there is a windows version of it. It can be used with a graphical interface or command line.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Mro@VERT to Daryl Stout on Thu Jun 2 19:27:02 2016
    Re: Night Owl Shareware
    By: Daryl Stout to MRO on Thu Jun 02 2016 12:52 pm

    Too bad there isn't a command line one to use on BBS's anymore, such
    as with THDPro. One used to be able to use either McAfee or F-Prot, but
    I don't think a command line scanner exists anymore.



    if you keep one running it will scan the files as they are sent or uploaded and block access / junk the file / delete the bad files in the executable.
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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT to AL on Fri Jun 3 12:30:00 2016
    Al,

    Too bad there isn't a command line one to use on BBS's anymore, such as with THDPro. One used to be able to use either McAfee or F-Prot, but I don't think a command line scanner exists anymore.

    There is clam-av. It's the main av on linux but I think there is a windows A>version of it. It can be used with a graphical interface or command line.

    Never heard of it. The thing is, if one already has an anti-virus deal
    on their system, if they try to put another one on there, both will
    "fight to the death", thinking the other program is malware.

    Daryl

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  • From Nightfox@VERT to Daryl Stout on Fri Jun 3 14:25:41 2016
    Too bad there isn't a command line one to use on BBS's anymore, such
    as with THDPro. One used to be able to use either McAfee or F-Prot, but
    I don't think a command line scanner exists anymore.

    Command-line virus scanners still exist. AVG provides a command-line virus scanner, which I've been using on my BBS:
    http://free.avg.com/us-en/homepage
    I installed their Windows scanner, and I noticed it contains a command-line version as a separate executable.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT to Mro on Fri Jun 3 14:30:14 2016
    Too bad there isn't a command line one to use on BBS's anymore, such
    as with THDPro. One used to be able to use either McAfee or F-Prot,
    but I don't think a command line scanner exists anymore.

    if you keep one running it will scan the files as they are sent or uploaded and block access / junk the file / delete the bad files in the executable.

    Yeah, but the BBS software wouldn't necessarily know about a virus scanner running in the background like that. If the virus scanner detects a virus
    and decides to quarantine the file, the BBS software might still assume the file is okay and try to make it available for download. Then users would
    see a file that they can't download. I know you'd probably say that's not a big issue, since a user could simply report that to the sysop.. But I think
    it would be better to configure a virus scanner to check uploads so the BBS
    can tell if a file is bad and then not make it available for download if the scan fails. Even better, use an upload processor that can unpack archives
    and use a virus scanner to scan the files inside rather than scanning the archive itself.

    Nightfox

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  • From Alan Ianson@VERT to Daryl Stout on Fri Jun 3 14:57:06 2016
    On 06/03/16, Daryl Stout said the following...

    There is clam-av. It's the main av on linux but I think there is a windo A>version of it. It can be used with a graphical interface or command line

    Never heard of it. The thing is, if one already has an anti-virus deal on their system, if they try to put another one on there, both will
    "fight to the death", thinking the other program is malware.

    Although clam-av is entirely different than those scanners of old it can be used in the same way and the definition files are updated regularly.

    MBSE has it pre-installed an one of the virus scanners that it can work with although it is disabled by default. I did use it with MBSE and it scanned
    every incoming file whether a user uploaded it to the BBS or it was recieved with a tic from one of the various FDNs.

    The command line is not as simple as f-prot was, but it can be used in the
    same way.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Mro@VERT to Daryl Stout on Fri Jun 3 17:02:20 2016
    Re: Night Owl Shareware
    By: Daryl Stout to AL on Fri Jun 03 2016 12:30 pm


    Never heard of it. The thing is, if one already has an anti-virus deal
    on their system, if they try to put another one on there, both will
    "fight to the death", thinking the other program is malware.


    not always. they arent THAT stupid.

    i believe i had clamav and another software installed on my stepdaughter's netbooks because together they did what i wanted. there was no conflict.
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  • From Mro@VERT to Nightfox on Fri Jun 3 17:03:15 2016
    Re: Night Owl Shareware
    By: Nightfox to Daryl Stout on Fri Jun 03 2016 02:25 pm

    Too bad there isn't a command line one to use on BBS's anymore, such
    as with THDPro. One used to be able to use either McAfee or F-Prot,
    but I don't think a command line scanner exists anymore.

    Command-line virus scanners still exist. AVG provides a command-line virus scanner, which I've been using on my BBS:
    http://free.avg.com/us-en/homepage
    I installed their Windows scanner, and I noticed it contains a command-line version as a separate executable.



    if people use winzip and winrar or whatever they will see that most antivirus softwares have a command line scan function. it's usually presetup in the programs i mentioned for av scanning archives.
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  • From Mro@VERT to Nightfox on Fri Jun 3 17:04:12 2016
    Re: Night Owl Shareware
    By: Nightfox to Mro on Fri Jun 03 2016 02:30 pm

    Yeah, but the BBS software wouldn't necessarily know about a virus scanner running in the background like that. If the virus scanner detects a virus and decides to quarantine the file, the BBS software might still assume the file is okay and try to make it available for download. Then users would see a file that they can't download. I know you'd probably say that's not
    a big issue, since a user could simply report that to the sysop.. But I think it would be better to configure a virus scanner to check uploads so


    well people dont download much nowadays. and the ones i've seen that scan in the archive remove the 'bad' file and leave the rest there just fine.
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  • From Accession@VERT to Al on Fri Jun 3 16:40:28 2016
    Hello Al,

    On 02 Jun 16 16:31, Al wrote to Daryl Stout:

    Too bad there isn't a command line one to use on BBS's anymore,
    such as with THDPro. One used to be able to use either McAfee or
    F-Prot, but I don't think a command line scanner exists anymore.

    There is clam-av. It's the main av on linux but I think there is a
    windows version of it. It can be used with a graphical interface or command line.

    That's the one I use here on all incoming files, whether it be direct uploads or things received from a file distribution. I haven't had a single issue with it in the past few years.

    Every once in awhile it'll say "ClamAV is out of date!" but then... "don't worry." lol. So you just upgrade it through your package manager when it's available and you're good to go till the next update.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Alan Ianson@VERT to Accession on Fri Jun 3 15:54:40 2016
    On 06/03/16, Accession said the following...

    That's the one I use here on all incoming files, whether it be direct uploads or things received from a file distribution. I haven't had a single issue with it in the past few years.

    That's what I was thinking. If you are doing this already you might be able
    to help Daryl with it.. :)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT to NIGHTFOX on Fri Jun 3 22:39:00 2016
    I don't think a command line scanner exists anymore.

    Command-line virus scanners still exist. AVG provides a command-line virus N>scanner, which I've been using on my BBS: N>http://free.avg.com/us-en/homepage
    I installed their Windows scanner, and I noticed it contains a command-line N>version as a separate executable.

    Interesting. I might have to take a look at it.

    Daryl

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  • From Nightfox@VERT to Mro on Sat Jun 4 14:06:50 2016
    Re: Night Owl Shareware
    By: Mro to Nightfox on Fri Jun 03 2016 17:04:12

    well people dont download much nowadays. and the ones i've seen that scan in the archive remove the 'bad' file and leave the rest there just fine.

    If that bad file happens to be the installation executable or the main program executable, then that wouldn't do people much good if they download the archive without that..

    Nightfox

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  • From Mro@VERT to Nightfox on Sat Jun 4 19:46:32 2016
    Re: Night Owl Shareware
    By: Nightfox to Mro on Sat Jun 04 2016 02:06 pm

    well people dont download much nowadays. and the ones i've seen that scan in the archive remove the 'bad' file and leave the rest there
    just fine.

    If that bad file happens to be the installation executable or the main program executable, then that wouldn't do people much good if they download the archive without that..


    ah well, nobody will die because of it and if it was a virus they were better off.

    and like i said, people dont download.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT to Mro on Sun Jun 5 14:17:17 2016
    Re: Night Owl Shareware
    By: Mro to Nightfox on Sat Jun 04 2016 19:46:32

    If that bad file happens to be the installation executable or the main
    program executable, then that wouldn't do people much good if they
    download the archive without that..

    ah well, nobody will die because of it and if it was a virus they were better off.

    I actually see a good number of downloads from my BBS. Maybe more than you might imagine.

    Nightfox

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  • From Lith@VERT to Nightfox on Tue Jun 7 20:27:48 2016
    I actually see a good number of downloads from my BBS. Maybe more than you
    might imagine.

    Nightfox


    Do you allow google to index your ftp/file area?

    Lith,

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  • From Nightfox@VERT to Lith on Wed Jun 8 09:37:23 2016
    I actually see a good number of downloads from my BBS. Maybe more than you
    might imagine.

    Nightfox

    Do you allow google to index your ftp/file area?

    I'm not sure, as I haven't specifically done anything to allow or disallow Google to index my files. However, some days I see a few files downloaded from my BBS, some days a bunch; sometimes by guest and sometimes by an actual user logged in. And I see many of the same files downloaded multiple times, so somehow I doubt it's that my files are being indexed.

    Nightfox

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