I figured it out... it had nothign to do with Synchronet at all... it had everything to do with permissions on the file.

It's purring along now without a problem... however I can't seem to get tickit to do anything.... one problem at a time... that's another battle :-)

Allen
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Re: Figured it out...
By: Alprunty to All on Wed Jul 20 2016 12:49 am

one problem at a time... that's another battle :-)

This wouldn't be anywhere near as much fun if everything worked. :)

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Re: Figured it out...
By: Alprunty to All on Wed Jul 20 2016 12:49 am

I figured it out... it had nothign to do with Synchronet at all... it had everything to do with permissions on the file.

Checked permissions on mine - looks good - not sure why I keep getting this ...example.com domain showing up when it tries to make a callout.

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Checked permissions on mine - looks good - not sure why I keep getting this ...example.com domain showing up when it tries to make a callout.

Documentation of this stuff being what it is right now, your best bet is to read the source.

The part that reads 'ctrl/ftn_domains.ini' is in 'exec/load/fido_syscfg.js'. Looks like each section in 'ftn_domains.ini' can have a DNSSuffix key. If no such key/value pair is present, it defaults to 'example.com'. The part that actually uses the data read from 'ftn_domains.ini' is in 'exec/load/fido.js', and probably others like 'exec/load/binkp.js'.

The DNSSuffix ends up being appended to some address that is constructed via 'FIDO.Addr' and some other helper functions. I'm guessing without looking that it would end up looking something like 'a1.b2.c3.d4.example.com' or whatever. Presumably this is all part of computing an FQDN based on some fido 'standard' or binkp convention.

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Re: Figured it out...
By: Alprunty to All on Wed Jul 20 2016 12:49 am

I figured it out... it had nothign to do with Synchronet at all... it had everything to do with permissions on the file.

Which file? It'd be potentially helpful to others if you could elaborate.

digital man

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Re: Figured it out...
By: echicken to nolageek on Wed Jul 20 2016 01:51 pm

Checked permissions on mine - looks good - not sure why I keep getting this ...example.com domain showing up when it tries to make a callout.

Documentation of this stuff being what it is right now, your best bet is to read the source.

The part that reads 'ctrl/ftn_domains.ini' is in 'exec/load/fido_syscfg.js'. Looks like each section in 'ftn_domains.ini' can have a DNSSuffix key. If no such key/value pair is present, it defaults to 'example.com'. The part that actually uses the data read from 'ftn_domains.ini' is in 'exec/load/fido.js', and probably others like 'exec/load/binkp.js'.

The DNSSuffix ends up being appended to some address that is constructed via 'FIDO.Addr' and some other helper functions. I'm guessing without looking that it would end up looking something like 'a1.b2.c3.d4.example.com' or whatever. Presumably this is all part of computing an FQDN based on some fido 'standard' or binkp convention.

I asked Deuce about this yesterday and he was insistent that the documentation on the wiki is correct and current: http://wiki.synchro.net/util:binkit <shrug>

If it's insufficient, it'd be nice if someone updated it accordingly. Perhaps an example ftn_domains.ini file would be helpful.

digital man

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Re: Figured it out...
By: Poindexter Fortran to Alprunty on Wed Jul 20 2016 07:30 am

Poindexter,

I don't hide the fact that i do this for cognative therapy after a major brain trauma. Believe me this used to be so simple for me... I like to rise to the challenge a bit.

I edited the ftn....txt file on my mac over the network and permissions got skewed on that file. it was like it was there and it wasn't. Once I went in there and changed it to where everyone had access boom things just worked.
I've done the same to all the tickit files and it's not working. I even ran the tickitcfg.js still not working.

Sure this is something minor I've done... we will get it fixed sooner or later


Allen
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I asked Deuce about this yesterday and he was insistent that the documentation on the wiki is correct and current: http://wiki.synchro.net/util:binkit <shrug>

I think it's just a bit of a formatting issue. I just made an edit that will hopefully make the 'domain options' in ftn_domains.ini more clearerer to people.

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Re: Figured it out...
By: Digital Man to echicken on Wed Jul 20 2016 02:44 pm

I asked Deuce about this yesterday and he was insistent that the documentation on the wiki is correct and current: http://wiki.synchro.net/util:binkit <shrug>

If it's insufficient, it'd be nice if someone updated it accordingly. Perhaps an example ftn_domains.ini file would be helpful.

Rob,

I may not be the best in getting things set up but once I have a grasp on what to do I am pretty good at getting things going. Don't know if you know of a company called Charter Communications, but before my head injury I worked in the Charter Business level Network Operations and Montoring center. I wrote the website on how to interface with the business services and maintained the company's business wiki where they put all the support information for all the busness level support techs and wrote a manual on how to diagnose and maintain a Motorola/ARRIS CMTS vs a Sisco CMTS I could do a world of good in expanding the wiki and making it a bit more understandable.

The Wiki should be written for end user comprehension not a programmer's comprehension.

Allen

BTW... I createdthe ftn_domains.ini over a network on my main home system which is a mac-pro. It can access files on any of my windows units. The BBS resides on a little chinese clone notebook piece of crap.

I usually VNC into it on the big screen, but this time I edited using mac's textedit. WHen it saved the file on windows it gave the acces for users of read only no write no read and execute. I went in and opened properties tab and gave everyone full controll... bam it's working perfectly now no problems whatsoever.

I've done same thing with tickit but it's still not tossing my inbound files and they are piling up fast. :-(

If you want me to help with the wiki I can probably really help things out.
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Re: Figured it out...
By: echicken to Digital Man on Wed Jul 20 2016 06:37 pm

Echicken,

If posting a sample ftn_domains.ini on the wiki would help you can use mine.

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[fidonet]
Zones=1,2,3,4,5,6
OutboundRoot=/sbbs/fido/outbound/

[fsxnet]
Zones=21
OutboundRoot=/sbbs/fido/outbound/

[dorenet]
Zones=44
OutboundRoot=/sbbs/fido/outbound/

[retronet]
Zones=80
OutboundRoot=/sbbs/fido/outbound/
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If posting a sample ftn_domains.ini on the wiki would help you can use mine.

If you have a QWK account on Vertrauen you should be able to log into the wiki with that and make edits.

I don't really know my way around the new .js FTN tools for Synchronet all that well, so I'd rather not build out any documentation for it. I've just been stepping in to fix little bugs to kill some spare moments.

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Re: Figured it out...
By: Alprunty to echicken on Wed Jul 20 2016 03:58 pm

[retronet]
Zones=80
OutboundRoot=/sbbs/fido/outbound/

Odd, this is the one I'm trying to set up. I see you dont have a DNSSuffix line - can you post or send me a copy of your other ini sections for this net? I must be missing something else. I tried adding this:

DNSSuffix=necrobbs.strangled.net

and now I get:

Connection to f0.n774.z80.necrobbs.strangled.net:24554 failed.

and I have a different port specified in binkit.ini:

[80:774/12@retronet]
Host=necrobbs.strangled.net
Password=********
OutboundRoot=\sbbs\mail\outbound
Port=24560

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Re: Figured it out...
By: nolageek to Alprunty on Wed Jul 20 2016 11:31 pm

[retronet]
Zones=80
OutboundRoot=/sbbs/fido/outbound/

Odd, this is the one I'm trying to set up. I see you dont have a DNSSuffix line - can you post or send me a copy of your other ini sections for this net? I must be missing something else. I tried adding this:

DNSSuffix=necrobbs.strangled.net

I thinkthe DNS Suffix is dynamically created by the entry in Binkit.ini

It's working quite well for me. I have a duplicate binkit event with the -p modifier that is executed once every half hour or 48 times a day. It seems to be picking up things a lot better once I did this. I am not missing -any- mail by doing this. Here is my entry for the retronet hub. the main thing is the 5D address must have the same tag as the domain in your ftn_domains.ini

This just works.

[80:774/0@retronet]
Host=necrobbs.strangled.net
Port=24560
Password=INSERT-YOURS-HERE
Poll=Yes

Also make double sure that you put 80:774/0 into your echocfg program.

One of the things I've observed is that if you run the binkit event AS it is set in the wiki at the interval in the wiki about once ever 18 minutes or so if there's files to go out they will go out to your binkit nodes. the more active your BBS is the more it will poll that node. If your BBS is not that active then you need to do a poll event. Binkit will only poll if you put the -p modifier after the .js in the event.

Sadly, if you do it too often your hubs sometimes get a bit peaved. I have my regular binkit event set to run about once every 10 minutes I bumped up the times it's ran. However, it only sends what is already tossed to that node.

I'm learning this... once I pick and pull something apart I get a good grasp on how it works. hope my wiki edit helps.

Allen
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Re: Figured it out...
By: Alprunty to nolageek on Thu Jul 21 2016 01:04 am

It's working quite well for me. I have a duplicate binkit event with the -p modifier that is executed once every half hour or 48 times a day. It

I'm getting closer - I'm connecting to 80:774/0 now with and without using -p

My outbound packets aren't leaving though:

I'm seeing 'Encryption required' message...

Running outbound dir \sbbs\mail\outbound.050\
Locking \sbbs\mail\outbound.050\03060000.bsy
Lock successful.
Attempting callout for file \sbbs\mail\outbound.050\03060000.out
Callout to 80:774/0@retronet started.
Sent M_NUL command args: OPT CRYPT
Sent M_NUL command args: SYS Capitol Shrill BBS
Sent M_NUL command args: ZYZ nolageek
Sent M_NUL command args: LOC Washington, DC
Sent M_NUL command args: NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
Sent M_NUL command args: TIME Thu Jul 21 2016 10:35:33 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Sent M_NUL command args: VER BinkIT/1.41,JSBinkP/1.67/Win32 binkp/1.1
Sent M_ADR command args: 80:774/12@retronet 46:1/151 42:256/4 40:100/35
Got M_NUL command args: OPT CRAM-MD5-1fe8a42bcf5236b6636368616c6c656e
Got M_NUL command args: SYS Necronomicon BBS
Got M_NUL command args: ZYZ Necromaster
Got M_NUL command args: VER Mystic/1.12A29 binkp/1.0
[...]
Sent M_PWD command args: CRAM-MD5-4fceda162fbba64d55dfce4136ca3965
Got M_OK command args: secure
Unconfigured address 21:1/122@fsxnet
[...]
Unconfigured address 1:322/756@fidonet
Adding outbound files for 80:774/0@retronet
Adding '\sbbs\mail\outbound.050\03060000.out' as 'qnfcqkin.pkt'
Sent M_ERR command args: Encryption required
Unlocking \sbbs\mail\outbound.050\03060000.bsy.

Also make double sure that you put 80:774/0 into your echocfg program.

I've never used echocfg.exe - it asks for a config file when I run it, is that the sbbsecho.cfg file that is no longer used?

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Re: Figured it out...
By: nolageek to Alprunty on Thu Jul 21 2016 11:09 am

I've never used echocfg.exe - it asks for a config file when I run it, is that the sbbsecho.cfg file that is no longer used?

EchoCfg v3 is used to edit the ctrl/sbbsecho.ini file.

EchoCfg v2 is used to edit the ctrl/sbbsecho.cfg file.

digital man

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Re: Figured it out...
By: nolageek to Alprunty on Thu Jul 21 2016 11:09 am

I'm getting closer - I'm connecting to 80:774/0 now with and without using -p

That's because you have an outbound packet ready to go. You will still need a -p event because if you have no outbound packet for two or three days and your hub does not crash it to you then you are pretty much stuck with no mail until someone posts something to generate an outbound packet to send. It appears that Binkit's scans outbound directories to send files.

My outbound packets aren't leaving though:

Neither are mine... and I'm glad you are having the same probelm.

I'm seeing 'Encryption required' message...

Same here same error and everything.

Adding outbound files for 80:774/0@retronet
Adding '\sbbs\mail\outbound.050\03060000.out' as 'qnfcqkin.pkt'
Sent M_ERR command args: Encryption required

What I'm finding is Mystic's hub -only- likes the singular AKA presented to it that is picking up mail... all others seem to confuse it. Don't know if this is the issue... or what. Until We get a copy of the log from the other hub side to see what the other machine is thinking we only have half the equation. Perhapse Duece, who wrote binkit can figure this out.

In order to keep things flowing I've put Irex back up on port 24555 on top of Binkit and am letting it poll ONLY the nodes that are not regular fido zone nodes. I really want to be done with IREX... and soon.

Allen
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Alprunty wrote to nolageek <=-

What I'm finding is Mystic's hub -only- likes the singular AKA
presented to it that is picking up mail... all others seem to confuse

I've only seen this once, and only between two Mystic systems. I poll Mystic regularly from my SBBS installation without hiding AKAs. However, I do use BinkD as my mailer, so it looks like we may have an interaction between two mailers. And is it every Mystic system? Or just one?

The system I think you're talking about has a lot of AKAs, and that caused issues with Mystic's own mailer, perhaps it is with the one you're using too.


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Re: Figured it out...
By: nolageek to Alprunty on Thu Jul 21 2016 11:09 am

I'm getting closer - I'm connecting to 80:774/0 now with and without using -p

That's because you have an outbound packet ready to go. You will still need a -p event because if you have no outbound packet for two or three days and your hub does not crash it to you then you are pretty much stuck with no mail until someone posts something to generate an outbound packet to send. It appears that Binkit's scans outbound directories to send files.

My outbound packets aren't leaving though:

Neither are mine... and I'm glad you are having the same probelm.

Did anyone ever figure this out? I'm having the same issue, I can poll, but outbound
packets just sit in the outbound directory and BinkIT seems to ignore them.

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