I was pointed here by the LINUX-UBUNTU echo, that info on:

I am looking for SyncTerm DEB files or PPA with same for *buntu based distros from 10.10 Maverick to 14.04 ESR.

The one PPA which has this only has a 32b, not64b/AMD64 or has it but the build
failed.

Any one have DEBS for the above or a PPA I am not finding?

Alternatively, DETAILED & EXPLICIT compiling instructions for the same.

Thanks.


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Re: SyncTerm DEB or PPA or DETAILED/EXPLICIT compile for 14.04 Kubuntu
By: rick christian to All on Sun Sep 18 2016 06:43 pm

I was pointed here by the LINUX-UBUNTU echo, that info on:

I am looking for SyncTerm DEB files or PPA with same for *buntu based distros from 10.10 Maverick to 14.04 ESR.

The one PPA which has this only has a 32b, not64b/AMD64 or has it but the build
failed.

Any one have DEBS for the above or a PPA I am not finding?

Alternatively, DETAILED & EXPLICIT compiling instructions for the same.

1. Download https://sourceforge.net/projects/syncterm/files/syncterm/syncterm-1.0/syncterm- 1.0.tgz/download

2. Extract the tgz:
$ tar xzvf syncterm-1.0.tgz

3. Go into the sub-directory src/syncterm
$ cd syncterm-1.0/src/syncterm

4. Execute 'gmake'
$ gmake

This should create the file: gcc.linux.x64.exe.debug/syncterm.

Optionally, run 'gmake install' (as root) to install the binary and fonts in the appropriate system directories for all users to find and execute.

You may have to replace 'gmake' with 'make' on some distros.

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El 18/09/16 a las 15:43, rick christian escribió:

I was pointed here by the LINUX-UBUNTU echo, that info on:

I am looking for SyncTerm DEB files or PPA with same for *buntu based distros
from 10.10 Maverick to 14.04 ESR.

The one PPA which has this only has a 32b, not64b/AMD64 or has it but the build
failed.

Any one have DEBS for the above or a PPA I am not finding?

Alternatively, DETAILED & EXPLICIT compiling instructions for the same.

Thanks.


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I work on SyncTerm package for Debian. You can build with
pbuilder/cowbouilder or any tool to make debian/ubuntu packages.

You can see https://github.com/ftoledo/pkg-syncterm

Also, you can check these build's in ubuntu (remeber are for debian):

http://repo.bbs.docksud.com.ar/pool/main/s/syncterm/

On 09/19/2016 02:49 AM, Digital Man -> rick christian wrote:

1. Download https://sourceforge.net/projects/syncterm/files/syncterm/syncterm-1.0/syncterm-

You may have to replace 'gmake' with 'make' on some distros.

THanks I review that and see if the DEBS in the other message don't work.


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On 09/19/2016 01:46 PM, Ragnarok -> rick christian wrote:

I work on SyncTerm package for Debian. You can build with pbuilder/cowbouilder or any tool to make debian/ubuntu packages.

You can see https://github.com/ftoledo/pkg-syncterm

Also, you can check these build's in ubuntu (remeber are for debian):

http://repo.bbs.docksud.com.ar/pool/main/s/syncterm/

Thanks, I will look at these... but I see a trigger

the packages are built with "DFSG" and that to me means that changes were made to meet the DFSG and thus features were removed...

What changes were made to meed the DFSG???

Thanks.


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On 09/19/2016 01:46 PM, Ragnarok -> rick christian wrote:

http://repo.bbs.docksud.com.ar/pool/main/s/syncterm/

Thanks, but these have issues in Kubuntu 14.04, can not meed dependencies.

What series were these built for??


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On 09/19/2016 02:49 AM, Digital Man -> rick christian wrote:

4. Execute 'gmake'
$ gmake

My experience tells me that before all of that there needs to be an install of libs to compile...as no source ever includes all the libs that it needs in the source...

What are those libs, please?


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Re: SyncTerm DEB or PPA or DETAILED/EXPLICIT compile for 14.04 Kubuntu
By: rick christian to Digital Man on Tue Sep 20 2016 03:24 pm

On 09/19/2016 02:49 AM, Digital Man -> rick christian wrote:

4. Execute 'gmake'
$ gmake

My experience tells me that before all of that there needs to be an install of libs to compile...as no source ever includes all the libs that it needs in the source...

So you didn't actually try it?

What are those libs, please?

The requisite libraries (besides the obviously, like glibc) are included in the archive.

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El 20/09/16 a las 11:50, rick christian escribió:

On 09/19/2016 01:46 PM, Ragnarok -> rick christian wrote:

I work on SyncTerm package for Debian. You can build with pbuilder/cowbouilder or any tool to make debian/ubuntu packages.

You can see https://github.com/ftoledo/pkg-syncterm

Also, you can check these build's in ubuntu (remeber are for debian):

http://repo.bbs.docksud.com.ar/pool/main/s/syncterm/

Thanks, I will look at these... but I see a trigger

the packages are built with "DFSG" and that to me means that changes were made
to meet the DFSG and thus features were removed...

What changes were made to meed the DFSG???

Thanks.

Cryplib, due to have include some files dereivates from openssl that
must have licese issues.

See README.source

El 20/09/16 a las 12:22, rick christian escribió:

On 09/19/2016 01:46 PM, Ragnarok -> rick christian wrote:

http://repo.bbs.docksud.com.ar/pool/main/s/syncterm/

Thanks, but these have issues in Kubuntu 14.04, can not meed dependencies.

What series were these built for??

Yes, it's was made for debian jessie and unstable i think that you must
update the depends for your distro.

if you want, i can help you to setup the build environment with
pbuilder, to make these packages for your distro/version

Saludos!

On 09/20/2016 09:59 PM, Digital Man -> rick christian wrote:

So you didn't actually try it?

Measure twice, thrice or more, then cut or compile.

I don't attempt compilations until I see documentation showing the process works with out fail and complete and full instructions to the last detail..

Why? see below....

What are those libs, please?

It needs:
sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
sudo apt-get install unzip

Thats in addition to something along:

sudo apt-get install build-essential + 20 recommended packages..

Do NOT use --install-suggests as that pretty much drags in about 300 packages for GUI stuff you don't need or want on a headless server

You will need to add the suggested to the line by hand.

NOW.. It will then compile with screens and screens of stuff

BUT

It DOES NOTHING...

$ ./syncterm -t bbs.deckersheaven.com FidoME@fidodev:~/syncterm-1.0/src/syncterm/gcc.linux.x64.exe.debug$ ../syncterm
-if X -t bbs.deckersheaven.com FidoME@fidodev:~/syncterm-1.0/src/syncterm/gcc.linux.x64.exe.debug$ man syncterm
FidoME@fidodev:~/syncterm-1.0/src/syncterm/gcc.linux.x64.exe.debug$ ../syncterm
-if C -t bbs.deckersheaven.com FidoME@fidodev:~/syncterm-1.0/src/syncterm/gcc.linux.x64.exe.debug$ syncterm FidoME@fidodev:~/syncterm-1.0/src/syncterm/gcc.linux.x64.exe.debug$ syncterm -v FidoME@fidodev:~/syncterm-1.0/src/syncterm/gcc.linux.x64.exe.debug$ syncterm telnet://bbs.deckersheaven.com FidoME@fidodev:~/syncterm-1.0/src/syncterm/gcc.linux.x64.exe.debug$ syncterm -if X telnet://bbs.deckersheaven.com

I guess partially it does something as if I use syncterm -f instead of -if it whines that -f is not longer supported.


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On 09/27/2016 11:07 AM, Ragnarok -> rick christian wrote:

Yes, it's was made for debian jessie and unstable i think that you must update the depends for your distro.

14.0.4.5 does NOT have:

libncurses5 (>= 6), libtinfo5 (>= 6),

libncurses5 = 5.9_20140118-1ubuntu
libtinfo5 = 5.9+20140118

So it has to be compilable against those in 14.04.5

I don't, cant, and won't use past 14.04 as systemd is not permitted.

if you want, i can help you to setup the build environment with
pbuilder, to make these packages for your distro/version

Sure, so long as it is detailed...

Leave nothing out... Know that I know NOTHING ABOUT COMPILING outside

../configure
sudo make
sudo make install


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28 Sep 16 08:45, you wrote to Digital Man:

Do NOT use --install-suggests as that pretty much drags in about 300 packages for GUI stuff you don't need or want on a headless server

agreed on that not using "--install-suggests" option... however, i think that syncterm and many other terminal programs that can properly handle BBS ANSI and
zmodem downloads are going to be GUI and not plain text terminal... i may be wrong on that, though... i use kubuntu 14.04.4 on my main workstation and syncterm compiled with no problems and is launched from an icon... i'm not aware of any really good ANSI terminals available from the command line like telnet, ssh, minicom and others... i think this is the first time you've mentioned building in a non-GUI environment...

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El 28/09/16 a las 17:15, mark lewis escribió:

28 Sep 16 08:45, you wrote to Digital Man:

Do NOT use --install-suggests as that pretty much drags in about 300 packages for GUI stuff you don't need or want on a headless server

agreed on that not using "--install-suggests" option... however, i think that
syncterm and many other terminal programs that can properly handle BBS ANSI and
zmodem downloads are going to be GUI and not plain text terminal... i may be wrong on that, though... i use kubuntu 14.04.4 on my main workstation and syncterm compiled with no problems and is launched from an icon... i'm not aware of any really good ANSI terminals available from the command line like telnet, ssh, minicom and others... i think this is the first time you've mentioned building in a non-GUI environment...

)\/(ark

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i will setup a virtual machine with ubuntu to try to adjust depends and
build it

Hi!

El 28/09/16 a las 17:15, mark lewis escribiij:

28 Sep 16 08:45, you wrote to Digital Man:

Do NOT use --install-suggests as that pretty much drags in about 300
packages for GUI stuff you don't need or want on a headless server

agreed on that not using "--install-suggests" option... however, i think that >> syncterm and many other terminal programs that can properly handle BBS ANSI

and

zmodem downloads are going to be GUI and not plain text terminal... i may be >> wrong on that, though... i use kubuntu 14.04.4 on my main workstation and
syncterm compiled with no problems and is launched from an icon... i'm not >> aware of any really good ANSI terminals available from the command line like >> telnet, ssh, minicom and others... i think this is the first time you've
mentioned building in a non-GUI environment...

)\/(ark

i will setup a virtual machine with ubuntu to try to adjust depends and
build it

I've only been able to look at it briefly but one thing I'm wondering is do those build-depends (besides debhelper, of course) actually need to be versioned?




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On 09/28/2016 04:15 PM, mark lewis -> rick christian wrote:

BBS ANSI and zmodem downloads are going to be GUI and not plain text terminal... i may be wrong on that, though...

based on the need for the ncurseslib-dev something or the other it appears that
it can/does use ncurses in the standard CLI

i use kubuntu 14.04.4 on
my main workstation and syncterm compiled with no problems and is

Instructions as what I tried doesn't work.

launched from an icon... i'm not aware of any really good ANSI terminals available from the command line like telnet, ssh, minicom and others...
i think this is the first time you've mentioned building in a non-GUI environment...

Built in a bog standard Ubuntu server VM...

Like above, it can use ncurses which should be capable for this setup, with that installed and using

syncterm -if C telnet://bbs.deckerheaven.com


I would expect it to fail on using -if X or S for which there is NO GUI to use.. but the C or F or A should work in the CLI.


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On 09/27/2016 11:07 AM, Ragnarok -> rick christian wrote:

if you want, i can help you to setup the build environment with
pbuilder, to make these packages for your distro/version

I am still in interested in this:

VM 14.0.4.5 with pbuilder from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto installed

I want to use the SOURCE FROM the ORIGINAL

https://sourceforge.net/projects/syncterm/files/syncterm/syncterm-1.0/syncterm-1.0.tgz/download

NOT any DFSG'd code removing features, ie: any source from the listed repo on nordsud is out, as it removes features.


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