Starting to create custom menus for my system and have ran in to a little snag. I know there is a bullseye.asc file for the bulletins menu, but when I create
a bullseye.ans file it says file not found when loading. Does the system not recognize a .ANS / .RIP etc for the bullseye menu?

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Re: Bullseye Menu
By: IronMan to All on Mon Sep 19 2016 04:07 pm

Starting to create custom menus for my system and have ran in to a little snag. I know there is a bullseye.asc file for the bulletins menu, but when I create
a bullseye.ans file it says file not found when loading. Does the system not recognize a .ANS / .RIP etc for the bullseye menu?

Try changing it from bullseye.ans to bullseye.asc


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Re: Bullseye Menu
By: IronMan to All on Mon Sep 19 2016 04:07 pm

Starting to create custom menus for my system and have ran in to a little snag. I know there is a bullseye.asc file for the bulletins menu, but when I create
a bullseye.ans file it says file not found when loading. Does the system not recognize a .ANS / .RIP etc for the bullseye menu?

Try changing it from bullseye.ans to bullseye.asc

Mojo

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When I renamed it from bullseye.ans to bullseye.asc, the menu will now pull up but it's not showing
any ansi colors. Just plain old ASCII.... Can you not create a bullseye.ans menu? All the other
menus displays ansi menus fine.

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Re: Re: Bullseye Menu
By: IronMan to Mojo on Tue Sep 20 2016 03:44 pm

When I renamed it from bullseye.ans to bullseye.asc, the menu will now pull up but it's not showing
any ansi colors. Just plain old ASCII.... Can you not create a bullseye.ans menu? All the other
menus displays ansi menus fine.

I haven't looked that closely at the bulletin setup. You could probably change it to use ans if you wanted but I would just run ans2asc on your ans file and use the resulting asc file. Don't need to change anything that way.

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Try changing it from bullseye.ans to bullseye.asc

When I renamed it from bullseye.ans to bullseye.asc, the menu will now pull up but it's not showing
any ansi colors. Just plain old ASCII.... Can you not create a bullseye.ans menu? All the other
menus displays ansi menus fine.

Simply renaming an .ans to .asc probably won't work well.. You should run the ans2asc conversion tool (which will convert the ANSI codes to Synchronet codes).

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Re: Bullseye Menu
By: Nightfox to IronMan on Tue Sep 20 2016 04:06 pm

Simply renaming an .ans to .asc probably won't work well.. You should run the ans2asc conversion tool (which will convert the ANSI codes to
Synchronet codes).

it works fine.
the only benefit of running the conversion util is that when the user does not support ansi color it will be stripped easily.
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Re: Bullseye Menu
By: IronMan to All on Mon Sep 19 2016 04:07 pm

Starting to create custom menus for my system and have ran in to a little snag. I know there is a bullseye.asc file for the bulletins menu, but when I create
a bullseye.ans file it says file not found when loading. Does the system not recognize a .ANS / .RIP etc for the bullseye menu?

You need a .asc version as well. Usins ANS2ASC to create this file should do it.

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Re: Bullseye Menu
By: Nightfox to IronMan on Tue Sep 20 2016 04:06 pm

Simply renaming an .ans to .asc probably won't work well.. You should run the ans2asc conversion tool (which will convert the ANSI codes to Synchronet codes).

What I should have said (my bad) is when creating it save it as bullseye.asc.. This is how I do it with thedraw when I make one...


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20 Sep 16 15:51, you wrote to IronMan:

When I renamed it from bullseye.ans to bullseye.asc, the menu will
now pull up but it's not showing any ansi colors. Just plain old
ASCII.... Can you not create a bullseye.ans menu? All the other menus
displays ansi menus fine.

I haven't looked that closely at the bulletin setup. You could
probably change it to use ans if you wanted but I would just run
ans2asc on your ans file and use the resulting asc file. Don't need to change anything that way.

but that doesn't allow for that "looks like walt disney puked here" colors all over the place look that some seem to want...

PS: 5 brownie points to the first one who can say where that quoted phrase comes from ;)

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20 Sep 16 16:06, you wrote to IronMan:

Try changing it from bullseye.ans to bullseye.asc

When I renamed it from bullseye.ans to bullseye.asc, the menu will
now pull up but it's not showing any ansi colors. Just plain old
ASCII.... Can you not create a bullseye.ans menu? All the other menus
displays ansi menus fine.

Simply renaming an .ans to .asc probably won't work well.. You should
run the ans2asc conversion tool (which will convert the ANSI codes to Synchronet codes).

ahhhh... so the .asc extension doesn't mean ASCII... i remember when RA introduced similar capability but i never looked into it... i preferred to have
my ASCII screens different from my colored screens... it is something that we might should explore over here a bit more... kinda goofs up the workflow, though, as ya still gotta have ANS screens for thedraw (and similar) to work with before the conversion to asc (not ASCII)...

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20 Sep 16 16:06, you wrote to IronMan:

Try changing it from bullseye.ans to bullseye.asc

When I renamed it from bullseye.ans to bullseye.asc, the menu will
now pull up but it's not showing any ansi colors. Just plain old
ASCII.... Can you not create a bullseye.ans menu? All the other menus
displays ansi menus fine.

Simply renaming an .ans to .asc probably won't work well.. You should run the ans2asc conversion tool (which will convert the ANSI codes to Synchronet codes).

ahhhh... so the .asc extension doesn't mean ASCII... i remember when RA introduced similar capability but i never looked into it... i preferred to have
my ASCII screens different from my colored screens... it is something that we might should explore over here a bit more... kinda goofs up the workflow, though, as ya still gotta have ANS screens for thedraw (and similar) to work with before the conversion to asc (not ASCII)...

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Yea, used the ans2asc and converted it. actually converted all my menu files to .asc.
Just not use to this with all the other BBS packages I ran over the years. Have created a special
directory to hold all my ansi menus I create and then convert them with ans2asc and then copy
them over to my subs/text/menu for display on the BBS. guess I will just use .asc for all my display
menus and files.
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Re: Bullseye Menu
By: mark lewis to Al on Wed Sep 21 2016 07:33 am

I haven't looked that closely at the bulletin setup. You could
probably change it to use ans if you wanted but I would just run
ans2asc on your ans file and use the resulting asc file. Don't need
to change anything that way.

but that doesn't allow for that "looks like walt disney puked here" colors all over the place look that some seem to want...

It does actually. The .asc file will be <CTRL>A codes instead of ansi.

PS: 5 brownie points to the first one who can say where that quoted phrase comes from ;)

I can think of a few people would say something like that but I never read it so I can't guess.. ;)

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PS: 5 brownie points to the first one who can say where that quoted phrase comes from ;)

I found it, but only thanks to Google. The End (1978). I never saw the movie, it came out just before I was born. However, anything with Burt Reynolds and Dom DeLuise is usually a good laugh.

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21 Sep 16 20:18, you wrote to me:

PS: 5 brownie points to the first one who can say where that quoted
phrase comes from ;)

I found it, but only thanks to Google. The End (1978).

yup... that's the one...

I never saw the movie, it came out just before I was born. However, anything with Burt Reynolds and Dom DeLuise is usually a good laugh.

very... it was a different role for burt... you should watch it if you get the chance :)

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Re: Bullseye Menu
By: mark lewis to Nightfox on Wed Sep 21 2016 07:35:34

Simply renaming an .ans to .asc probably won't work well.. You
should run the ans2asc conversion tool (which will convert the ANSI
codes to Synchronet codes).

ahhhh... so the .asc extension doesn't mean ASCII... i remember when RA introduced similar capability but i never looked into it... i preferred to have my ASCII screens different from my colored screens... it is something that we might should explore over here a bit more... kinda goofs up the workflow, though, as ya still gotta have ANS screens for thedraw (and similar) to work with before the conversion to asc (not ASCII)...

Well .asc does mean ASCII.. But with Synchronet, an .asc file can also contain Synchronet attribute codes, and Synchronet will either display them or strip them, depending on whether the user's terminal supports ANSI or not.

And I suppose renaming an .ans to .asc could work.. Synchronet would probably simply send the contents to the user, and if their terminal supports ANSI, then it would interpret and display the ANSI codes.

Since Synchronet can intelligently strip its color codes if needed, I've been in the habit of simply having .asc files that contain Synchronet codes. I do have to use asc2ans whenever I want to edit one with TheDraw, then convert back using ans2asc, which makes the workflow perhaps a little more tedious than it should be. I wasn't sure if I wanted a separate .ans and .asc version of most of my files - but I suppose that wouldn't really be much of an issue.

Nightfox

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21 Sep 16 21:19, you wrote to me:

Simply renaming an .ans to .asc probably won't work well.. You
should run the ans2asc conversion tool (which will convert the ANSI
codes to Synchronet codes).

ahhhh... so the .asc extension doesn't mean ASCII... i remember when
RA introduced similar capability but i never looked into it... i
preferred to have my ASCII screens different from my colored
screens... it is something that we might should explore over here a
bit more... kinda goofs up the workflow, though, as ya still gotta
have ANS screens for thedraw (and similar) to work with before the
conversion to asc (not ASCII)...

Well .asc does mean ASCII.. But with Synchronet, an .asc file can
also contain Synchronet attribute codes, and Synchronet will either display them or strip them, depending on whether the user's terminal supports ANSI or not.

yes, i know how it works... RA has the same since the '90s but it uses "RA codes"... ^K[bf where b is the background color number and f is the foreground color number... in most all of these that i've glanced at, they seem to use the
same numbers as those used for the same colors in ANSI... all that's been changed is the leading indicator code...

And I suppose renaming an .ans to .asc could work.. Synchronet would probably simply send the contents to the user, and if their terminal supports ANSI, then it would interpret and display the ANSI codes.

yeah, not sure about that... i've just stayed with the normal stuff of asc being mono and ans being color with avt and some basic rip also offered as an alternative color formats...

Since Synchronet can intelligently strip its color codes if needed,
I've been in the habit of simply having .asc files that contain
Synchronet codes. I do have to use asc2ans whenever I want to edit
one with TheDraw, then convert back using ans2asc, which makes the workflow perhaps a little more tedious than it should be.

that's what i commented about earlier...

I wasn't sure if I wanted a separate .ans and .asc version of most of
my files - but I suppose that wouldn't really be much of an issue.

i'm still undecided and after all these years, i still use the old school two, three or four files for the various terminal offerings...

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Ok guys heres another question and probably a stupid one on my part.

Ok, I am creating my bullseye bulletin menu but have added more than 9 bulletins so of course
when you try to load the 10th one you hit (10) but it of course takes you to the number 1 bulletin.
How could you do this?? would you have to turn off hot keys in order to have over 9 bulletins
posted? Noticed the Vertrauen just has 9 also so I figure I'm not the only one.

Is there a way to turn hot keys off for just the bullseye menu and not the entire BBS?


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Ok, I am creating my bullseye bulletin menu but have added more than 9 bulletins so of course
when you try to load the 10th one you hit (10) but it of course takes you to the number 1 bulletin.
How could you do this?? would you have to turn off hot keys in order to have over 9 bulletins
posted? Noticed the Vertrauen just has 9 also so I figure I'm not the only one.

Is there a way to turn hot keys off for just the bullseye menu and not the entire BBS?

The bullseye.js script doesn't appear to be using hotkeys; it should accept anything from 1 up to the total number of bulletins in your list even if that's more than 9. (I tested the method it uses (console.getnum) here, and that bears out.)

How many lines do you have in your bullseye.cfg? Is the first bulletin from that file showing up in your list? It looks like the first line from that file essentially gets discarded, and then the remaining lines are displayed.

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