Just curious, I'm starting to get notifications of recieving a file called VOTING.DAT by QWK from VERT everyday now. Have I missed something? What program does this file associate with, or is it something in the testing phase. It sounds interesting. Thanks In Advance.
Just curious, I'm starting to get notifications of recieving a file called VOTING.DAT by QWK from VERT everyday now. Have I missed something? What program does this file associate with, or is it something in the testing phase. It sounds interesting. Thanks In Advance.
Just curious, I'm starting to get notifications of recieving a file called VOTING.DAT by QWK from VERT everyday now. Have I missed something? What program does this file associate with, or is it something in the testing phase. It sounds interesting. Thanks In Advance.
The other day, I saw a message in the Synchronet Programming area about some commits related to a SMB-based voting system. I wonder if it's related to that.
Yes, it's part of a new distributed voting thing I'm working on. You can turn it off at the QWK: prompt (it should be off by default), but if you're running a recent development (3.17) build and then send a REP packet to VERT, it'll get turned back on automatically.
And if you're running a recent development build (and you're using the built-in Synchronet message reader), hit 'V' now and you should be able to up-vote or down-vote this message. :-)
Yes, it's part of a new distributed voting thing I'm working on. You can turn it off at the QWK: prompt (it should be off by default), but if you're running a recent development (3.17) build and then send a REP packet to VERT, it'll get turned back on automatically.
And if you're running a recent development build (and you're using the built-in Synchronet message reader), hit 'V' now and you should be able to up-vote or down-vote this message. :-)
Just curious, I'm starting to get notifications of recieving a file called VOTING.DAT by QWK from VERT everyday now. Have I missed something? What program does this file associate with, or is it something in the testing phase. It sounds interesting. Thanks In Advance.
SysOp: C.G. Learn, AKA: DesotoFireflite
Valhalla Home Services! - (Synchronet) - bbs.valhallahomeservices.com:2323 Valhalla II! - (GAP) - bbs.valhallahomeservices.com
A Gamers Paradise - Over 150 Registered Online Game Doors!
Just curious, I'm starting to get notifications of recieving a file called VOTING.DAT by QWK from VERT everyday now. Have I missed something? What program does this file associate with, or is it something in the testing phase. It sounds interesting. Thanks In Advance.
if you logon to vert. into your bbs qwk account
(under Change Packet Configuration) you see this :
[V] Include VOTING.DAT File : No
mine was in off mode, how many are in off mode (maybe the older account) and the rest might be in the on mode (yes)
Yes, it's part of a new distributed voting thing I'm working on. You can turn it off at the QWK: prompt (it should be off by default), but if you're running a recent development (3.17) build and then send a REP packet to VERT, it'll get turned back on automatically.
And if you're running a recent development build (and you're using the built-in Synchronet message reader), hit 'V' now and you should be able to up-vote or down-vote this message. :-)
That sounds cool. I haven't upgraded my Synchronet binaries, so I haven't seen this in action yet. Does the latest Synchronet show the upvotes & downvotes? Also, will there be interfaces added to the JavaScript layer to submit votes & view the results?
Re: VOTING.DAT
By: DesotoFireflite to All on Fri Nov 11 2016 07:42 am
Just curious, I'm starting to get notifications of recieving a file called VOTING.DAT by QWK from VERT everyday now. Have I missed something? What program does this file associate with, or is it something in the testing phase. It sounds interesting. Thanks In Advance.
SysOp: C.G. Learn, AKA: DesotoFireflite
Valhalla Home Services! - (Synchronet) - bbs.valhallahomeservices.com:2323
Valhalla II! - (GAP) - bbs.valhallahomeservices.com
A Gamers Paradise - Over 150 Registered Online Game Doors!
Starting 11/09, I started getting these messages too...
Re: VOTING.DAT
By: DesotoFireflite to All on Fri Nov 11 2016 07:42 am
Just curious, I'm starting to get notifications of recieving a file called VOTING.DAT by QWK from VERT everyday now. Have I missed something? What program does this file associate with, or is it something in the testing phase. It sounds interesting. Thanks In Advance.
Yes, it's part of a new distributed voting thing I'm working on. You can turn it off at the QWK: prompt (it should be off by default), but if you're running a recent development (3.17) build and then send a REP packet to VERT, it'll get turned back on automatically.
And if you're running a recent development build (and you're using the built-in Synchronet message reader), hit 'V' now and you should be able to up-vote or down-vote this message. :-)
All users (including QWKnet accounts) should have that option off by default think when I was initially working on it, it was including the VOTING.DAT fo all QWK packets and that might be what he was seeing.
Re: Re: VOTING.DAT
By: Digital Man to Lord Time on Fri Nov 11 2016 16:24:57
All users (including QWKnet accounts) should have that option off by default think when I was initially working on it, it was including the VOTING.DAT fo all QWK packets and that might be what he was seeing.
It's been coming through here about 2-3 times per day for the last couple days.
Starting 11/09, I started getting these messages too...
Are you still?
digital man
Re: Re: VOTING.DAT
By: Lord Time to DesotoFireflite on Fri Nov 11 2016 12:20 pm
Just curious, I'm starting to get notifications of recieving a file called VOTING.DAT by QWK from VERT everyday now. Have I missed something? What program does this file associate with, or is it something in the testing phase. It sounds interesting. Thanks In Advance.
if you logon to vert. into your bbs qwk account
(under Change Packet Configuration) you see this :
[V] Include VOTING.DAT File : No
mine was in off mode, how many are in off mode (maybe the older account) and the rest might be in the on mode (yes)
All users (including QWKnet accounts) should have that option off by default. I think when I was initially working on it, it was including the VOTING.DAT for all QWK packets and that might be what he was seeing.
If you're a recent running v3.17 development build, then when your system sends a .REP packet to VERT, it'll detect the VOTING.DAT file and turn that flag on for your QWKnet account automatically.
All users (including QWKnet accounts) should have that option off by default think when I was initially working on it, it was including the VOTING.DAT fo all QWK packets and that might be what he was seeing.
It's been coming through here about 2-3 times per day for the last couple days.
Interesting... I just checked your QWKnet account and that option is off: QWK Settings for CASTLERO #93:
[A] Ctrl-A Color Codes : Leave in
[T] Archive Type : zip
[E] Include E-mail Messages : Un-read Only
[I] Include File Attachments : Yes
[D] Delete E-mail Automatically : Yes
[F] Include New Files List : No
[N] Include Index Files : No
[C] Include Control Files : No
[V] Include VOTING.DAT File : No
I'll have to look into this further. :-)
It's been coming through here about 2-3 times per day for the last couple days.
Interesting... I just checked your QWKnet account and that option is off: QWK Settings for CASTLERO #93:
[A] Ctrl-A Color Codes : Leave in
[T] Archive Type : zip
[E] Include E-mail Messages : Un-read Only
[I] Include File Attachments : Yes
[D] Delete E-mail Automatically : Yes
[F] Include New Files List : No
[N] Include Index Files : No
[C] Include Control Files : No
[V] Include VOTING.DAT File : No
I'll have to look into this further. :-)
Re: Re: VOTING.DAT
By: Digital Man to Black Panther on Fri Nov 11 2016 19:03:15
It's been coming through here about 2-3 times per day for the last couple days.
Interesting... I just checked your QWKnet account and that option is off: QWK Settings for CASTLERO #93:
[A] Ctrl-A Color Codes : Leave in
[T] Archive Type : zip
[E] Include E-mail Messages : Un-read Only
[I] Include File Attachments : Yes
[D] Delete E-mail Automatically : Yes
[F] Include New Files List : No
[N] Include Index Files : No
[C] Include Control Files : No
[V] Include VOTING.DAT File : No
I'll have to look into this further. :-)
From what I've seen today, it's come through about 5 times. The last time was 11:25:22p MDT.
Weird. I logged into Telnet with your CASTLERO account and created a QWK pac and there was no VOTING.DAT file. I logged in via ftp with your CASTLERO account and created (and downloaded) a QWK packet and again, no VOTING.DAT file:
Viewing .ZIP: vert.qwk
Length Method Size Ratio Date Time CRC-32 Attr Name
------ ------ ----- ----- ---- ---- -------- ---- ----
568 DeflatN 357 37.2% 11/11/2016 11:35p c7b1a170 --w---- HEADERS.
1408 DeflatN 771 45.3% 11/11/2016 11:35p 22d6add9 --w---- MESSAGES.DAT
Can you find this VOTING.DAT file and maybe delete it or rename it? And see it gets recreated and what the new file's date/time stamp is? This is very curious.
if you logon to vert. into your bbs qwk account
(under Change Packet Configuration) you see this :
[V] Include VOTING.DAT File : No
Re: VOTING.DAT
By: Digital Man to Knightmare on Fri Nov 11 2016 04:28 pm
Starting 11/09, I started getting these messages too...
Are you still?
digital man
That's a negative at this time, since you mentioned the issue on a previous post.
Re: VOTING.DAT
By: Knightmare to Digital Man on Sat Nov 12 2016 12:07 am
Re: VOTING.DAT
By: Digital Man to Knightmare on Fri Nov 11 2016 04:28 pm
Starting 11/09, I started getting these messages too...
Are you still?
I just got it again... 12:52PM EST - 11/12/16
Also got a note to renew my BBS listing... Are the two conncted?
Yes, it's part of a new distributed voting thing I'm working on. You can turn it off at the QWK: prompt (it should be off by default), but if you're running a recent development (3.17) build and then send a REP packet to VERT, it'll get turned back on automatically.
And if you're running a recent development build (and you're using the built-in Synchronet message reader), hit 'V' now and you should be able to up-vote or down-vote this message. :-)
Re: Re: VOTING.DAT
By: Lord Time to DesotoFireflite on Fri Nov 11 2016 12:20 pm
if you logon to vert. into your bbs qwk account
(under Change Packet Configuration) you see this :
[V] Include VOTING.DAT File : No
Good Info to have.
I figured it out,
but others may need this info.
Thanks for the reply.
Re: VOTING.DAT
By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Fri Nov 11 2016 12:23:45
Yes, it's part of a new distributed voting thing I'm working on. You can turn it off at the QWK: prompt (it should be off by default), but if you're running a recent development (3.17) build and then send a REP packet to VERT, it'll get turned back on automatically.
And if you're running a recent development build (and you're using the built-in Synchronet message reader), hit 'V' now and you should be able to up-vote or down-vote this message. :-)
I've upgraded my Synchronet binaries, and I temporarily switched back to the built-in reader and upvoted this message. It doesn't seem to show voting results when viewing a message though. Is there another command key to view the voting results? Or are the results shown in a different way?
Do you have a custom message header (text/menu/msghdr.asc) or a modified text.dat? If you have a custom message header, you'll need to use the new UPVOTES, DOWNVOTES, or SCORE @-codes to display the voting results of a message. If you're not, then it should automatically use the new MsgVotes text.dat line (when there are votes) if even you don't have that line in your text.dat.
My sbbsctrl was crashing with the updated binaries, so I've reverted back for now. I'll try again with the updated binaries at some point.
Do you have a custom message header (text/menu/msghdr.asc) or a modified text.dat? If you have a custom message header, you'll need to use the new UPVOTES, DOWNVOTES, or SCORE @-codes to display the voting results of a message. If you're not, then it should automatically use the new MsgVotes text.dat line (when there are votes) if even you don't have that line in your text.dat.
Starting 11/09, I started getting these messages too...
Are you still?
I just got it again... 12:52PM EST - 11/12/16
Can you copy and paste the message you're seeing? Can you find the VOTING.DAT file and check it's date/time and maybe its contents? Try renaming or deleting it and see if it keeps coming back.
Also got a note to renew my BBS listing... Are the two conncted?
Um... you got a note to renew on your own BBS or on Vertrauen? I don't know how they could be connected anyway.
Re: VOTING.DAT
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sat Nov 12 2016 12:43 pm
Do you have a custom message header (text/menu/msghdr.asc) or a modified text.dat? If you have a custom message header, you'll need to use the new UPVOTES, DOWNVOTES, or SCORE @-codes to display the voting results of a message. If you're not, then it should automatically use the new MsgVotes text.dat line (when there are votes) if even you don't have that line in your text.dat.
Ok, I understand the line in the text.dat, and I also get that I have a custom header and use the new @-codes UPVOTES, DOWNVOTES, and SCORE, I will see the results, but How do I vote on a particular message after I update the BBS to the newest 3.17 nightly build. This voting thing is awesome, and I want it.
Re: VOTING.DAT
By: Digital Man to Knightmare on Sat Nov 12 2016 11:20 am
Starting 11/09, I started getting these messages too...
Are you still?
I just got it again... 12:52PM EST - 11/12/16
Can you copy and paste the message you're seeing? Can you find the VOTING.DAT file and check it's date/time and maybe its contents? Try renaming or deleting it and see if it keeps coming back.
Also got a note to renew my BBS listing... Are the two conncted?
Um... you got a note to renew on your own BBS or on Vertrauen? I don't know how they could be connected anyway.
File located in c:\sbbs\data\qnet\VERT.in\VOTING.DAT
0 bytes
Last updated 11/12/16
Ok, I understand the line in the text.dat, and I also get that I have
a custom header and use the new @-codes UPVOTES, DOWNVOTES, and SCORE,
I will see the results, but How do I vote on a particular message
after I update the BBS to the newest 3.17 nightly build. This voting
thing is awesome, and I want it.
Hit 'V' at the "Reading" prompt, then 'U' for up or 'D' for down-vote the message. Your BBS will then send the vote(s) to VERT in your next REP packet and get redistributed from there. Or at least, that's how it's *supposed* to work. :-)
The poll creation/display/voting stuff is still pending.
File located in c:\sbbs\data\qnet\VERT.in\VOTING.DAT
0 bytes
Last updated 11/12/16
If you delete the file, does it come back?
Re: VOTING.DAT
By: Digital Man to Knightmare on Sun Nov 13 2016 11:55:35
File located in c:\sbbs\data\qnet\VERT.in\VOTING.DAT
0 bytes
Last updated 11/12/16
If you delete the file, does it come back?
It hasn't come back on my system since I deleted it.
Re: VOTING.DAT
By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Sun Nov 13 2016 11:54 am
Ok, I understand the line in the text.dat, and I also get that I have
a custom header and use the new @-codes UPVOTES, DOWNVOTES, and SCORE,
I will see the results, but How do I vote on a particular message
after I update the BBS to the newest 3.17 nightly build. This voting
thing is awesome, and I want it.
Hit 'V' at the "Reading" prompt, then 'U' for up or 'D' for down-vote the message. Your BBS will then send the vote(s) to VERT in your next REP packet and get redistributed from there. Or at least, that's how it's *supposed* to work. :-)
Awesome, Thanks.
The poll creation/display/voting stuff is still pending.
I understand, I'm just excited, and trying to get my mind ready for it. As always, thanks
The poll creation/display/voting stuff is still pending.
I understand, I'm just excited, and trying to get my mind ready for
it. As always, thanks
And when I logged on just now, I saw this:
On Sun Nov 13 2016 03:17 pm, in DOVE-Net Synchronet Discussion DesotoFireflite Up-voted your message: VOTING.DAT
It's working! :-)
Re: VOTING.DAT
By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Sun Nov 13 2016 08:31 pm
The poll creation/display/voting stuff is still pending.
I understand, I'm just excited, and trying to get my mind ready for
it. As always, thanks
And when I logged on just now, I saw this:
On Sun Nov 13 2016 03:17 pm, in DOVE-Net Synchronet Discussion DesotoFireflite Up-voted your message: VOTING.DAT
It's working! :-)
Yea, I know, it's awesome. I voted from your system just to try it out, and it's really cool (I hope you can still use that word these days LOL), I look forward to implementing here on Valhalla. I really like the way you header shows a special line calld MSG when someone votes on a message. I also noticed, and I may be wrong, the vote seems to follow the thread.
Yea, I know, it's awesome. I voted from your system just to try it out,
and it's really cool (I hope you can still use that word these days
LOL), I look forward to implementing here on Valhalla. I really like
the way you header shows a special line calld MSG when someone votes on
a message. I also noticed, and I may be wrong, the vote seems to follow
the thread.
Votes are per-message, not per-thread. There were probably just more
than one individual message that was voted on in that thread. I some point, I'll add a way to list the votes (who voted which way).
14 Nov 16 12:04, you wrote to DesotoFireflite:
Yea, I know, it's awesome. I voted from your system just to try it out,
and it's really cool (I hope you can still use that word these days
LOL), I look forward to implementing here on Valhalla. I really like
the way you header shows a special line calld MSG when someone votes on
a message. I also noticed, and I may be wrong, the vote seems to follow
the thread.
Votes are per-message, not per-thread. There were probably just more than one individual message that was voted on in that thread. I some point, I'll add a way to list the votes (who voted which way).
could this voting thing be why there have been a few blank posts from you and at least one other person on the fido side of the gateway? there was just your name and origin line, IIRC... i can post the control lines back to you if needed...
Just curious, I'm starting to get notifications of recieving a file called VOTING.DAT by QWK from VERT everyday now. Have I missed something? What program does this file associate with, or is it something in the testing phase. It sounds interesting. Thanks In Advance.
Yes, it's part of a new distributed voting thing I'm working on. You can turn it off at the QWK: prompt (it should be off by default), but if you're running a recent development (3.17) build and then send a REP packet to VERT, it'll get turned back on automatically.
Yea, I know, it's awesome. I voted from your system just to try it
out, and it's really cool (I hope you can still use that word these
days LOL), I look forward to implementing here on Valhalla. I really
like the way you header shows a special line calld MSG when someone
votes on a message. I also noticed, and I may be wrong, the vote seems
to follow the thread.
Votes are per-message, not per-thread. There were probably just more than one individual message that was voted on in that thread. I some point, I'll add a way to list the votes (who voted which way).
Re: VOTING.DAT
By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Fri Nov 11 2016 12:23:45
Yes, it's part of a new distributed voting thing I'm working on. You can turn it off at the QWK: prompt (it should be off by default), but if you're running a recent development (3.17) build and then send a REP packet to VERT, it'll get turned back on automatically.
my :
V] Include VOTING.DAT File : No
and i still Receive
Do you have a custom message header (text/menu/msghdr.asc) or a
modified text.dat? If you have a custom message header, you'll
need to use the new UPVOTES, DOWNVOTES, or SCORE @-codes to
display the voting results of a message. If you're not, then it
should automatically use the new MsgVotes text.dat line (when
there are votes) if even you don't have that line in your
text.dat.
Re: VOTING.DAT
By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Sun Nov 13 2016 11:54 am
Do you have a custom message header (text/menu/msghdr.asc) or a
modified text.dat? If you have a custom message header, you'll
need to use the new UPVOTES, DOWNVOTES, or SCORE @-codes to
display the voting results of a message. If you're not, then it
should automatically use the new MsgVotes text.dat line (when
there are votes) if even you don't have that line in your
text.dat.
Ok, upgraded to the new development build this morning, voting seems to work locally ok here, and if I don''t use my custom msghdr.ans/asc file, the results show up fine in the text.dat header. But if I use my custom header I've created, and have been using for years it won''t show, even after adding the following line to the header:
Positive: UPVOTES Negitive: DOWNVOTES Total: SCORE (I used the at symbol before and after each code as reqired, but left it off in this message so it would show)
Could I have missed something in the update?
Ok, upgraded to the new development build this morning, voting seems
to work locally ok here, and if I don''t use my custom msghdr.ans/asc
file, the results show up fine in the text.dat header. But if I use my
custom header I've created, and have been using for years it won''t
show, even after adding the following line to the header:
Positive: UPVOTES Negitive: DOWNVOTES Total: SCORE (I used the at
symbol before and after each code as reqired, but left it off in this
message so it would show)
Could I have missed something in the update?
The full @-codes names are MSG_UPVOTES, MSG_DOWNVOTES, and MSG_SCORE.
Positive: UPVOTES Negitive: DOWNVOTES Total: SCORE (I used the at
symbol before and after each code as reqired, but left it off in this
message so it would show)
Could I have missed something in the update?
The full @-codes names are MSG_UPVOTES, MSG_DOWNVOTES, and MSG_SCORE.
-+-File located in c:\sbbs\data\qnet\VERT.in\VOTING.DAT
0 bytes
Last updated 11/12/16
If you delete the file, does it come back?
digital man
Do you have a custom message header (text/menu/msghdr.asc) or a modified text.dat? If you have a custom message header, you'll need to use the new UPVOTES, DOWNVOTES, or SCORE @-codes to display the voting results of a message. If you're not, then it should automatically use the new MsgVotes text.dat line (when there are votes) if even you don't have that line in your text.dat.
Re: VOTING.DAT
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sat Nov 12 2016 12:43:33
Do you have a custom message header (text/menu/msghdr.asc) or a modified text.dat? If you have a custom message header, you'll need to use the new UPVOTES, DOWNVOTES, or SCORE @-codes to display the voting results of a message. If you're not, then it should automatically use the new MsgVotes text.dat line (when there are votes) if even you don't have that line in your text.dat.
I do have a custom message header. I tried putting @UPVOTES@, @DOWNVOTES@, and @SCORE@ in my header file, but Synchronet was displaying those literally rather than interpreting them. I tried updating my binaries to today's build to be sure, but it was still not interpreting those. I tried moving my custom header to Synchronet would use the default header, but it was still not displaying voting information for messages. I have updated my text.dat with the added MsgVotes line and others.
I do have a custom message header. I tried putting @UPVOTES@, @DOWNVOTES@, and @SCORE@ in my header file, but Synchronet was displaying those literally rather than interpreting them. I tried updating my binaries to today's build to be sure, but it was still not interpreting those. I tried moving my custom header to Synchronet would use the default header, but it was still not displaying voting information for messages. I have updated my text.dat with the added MsgVotes line and others.
Sorry, the actual @-code values are: MSG_UPVOTES, MSG_DOWNVOTES, and MSG_SCORE.
Nobody has voted on this message? :-(
digital man
The "V" key doesn't work for me. I guess I have an old version. I did try!
Re: VOTING.DAT
By: K7elh to Digital Man on Fri Dec 09 2016 07:15 pm
K7elh,
The "V" key doesn't work for me. I guess I have an old version. I did try!Best to update ASAP. The "V" command at the message prompt works well here.
Re: VOTING.DAT
By: Jon Justvig to K7elh on Fri Dec 09 2016 08:55 pm
Re: VOTING.DAT
By: K7elh to Digital Man on Fri Dec 09 2016 07:15 pm
K7elh,
The "V" key doesn't work for me. I guess I have an old version. I did try!Best to update ASAP. The "V" command at the message prompt works well here.
I thought 3.16c was the latest update??
I thought 3.16c was the latest update??
I thought 3.16c was the latest update??
I thought 3.16c was the latest update??
I thought 3.16c was the latest update??
v3.16c is the latest official release. The current development version is 3.17a and is built (from the current code in CVS) and archived for download daily (e.g. sbbs_dev.zip).
digital man
I thought 3.16c was the latest update??That is the latest stable release, 3.17 is in development, and most sysops love to be test subjects.. :-)
Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
KK4QBN BBS
I don't mind usually, but I just returned to the BBS world after a 25 year hiatus. Maybe I should take it slow... Lol...
I don't mind usually, but I just returned to the BBS world after a 25 year hiatus. Maybe I should take it slow... Lol...
if you already installed 3.16 and have it stable, going to 3.17 under windows is just as simple as reading some instructions and copying a few binaries over, and some stuff in the CTRL dir too.. DM has it all nice and
if you already installed 3.16 and have it stable, going to 3.17 under
windows is just as simple as reading some instructions and copying a
few binaries over, and some stuff in the CTRL dir too.. DM has it all
nice and
BACKUP FIRST!
if you already installed 3.16 and have it stable, going to 3.17 under windows is just as simple as reading some instructions and copying a few binaries over, and some stuff in the CTRL dir too.. DM has it all nice and zipped up on a daily basis.. now installing the new stuff like ecweb4, etc is a bit more tough (well it has give me a few issues but not many) but its a cakewalk.. pretty much..
(waiting for something to crash on my BBS since i said that)
Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
KK4QBN BBS
BACKUP FIRST!
Yeah, that too... but I would *hope* that would be something one would just naturally do.
Yeah, that too... but I would *hope* that would be something one would
just naturally do.
for some reason most sysops do NOT backup and end up 'losing it all in a crash' frequently.
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