Rob,

I'm passing this on as some are saying that the MSGID that sbbsecho is generating is not compliant with the FTSC Standards. Can you please review?

Thanks

Allen

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Hello Wilfred!

15 Feb 17 18:23, you wrote to me:

Hi,

On 2017-02-15 12:21:05, Allen Prunty wrote to All:
about: "Testing Synchronet":

@MSGID: 1196.fn_fidotest@1:2320/100 1d09c8ad

Well that's not correct according to FTS-0009:

^AMSGID: origaddr serialno

The originating address should be specified in a form that
constitutes a valid return address for the originating network.

@PID: Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 Feb 7 2017 MSC 1800
@TZUTC: -0500
@TID: SBBSecho 3.00-Win32 r3.28 Feb 7 2017 MSC 1800
Just curious can someone please let me know how this is getting
out?

Allen
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SEEN-BY: 261/38 280/464 5003 5555 310/31 423/120 712/848 770/1
2320/0
SEEN-BY: 2320/1 100 200 5075/35
@PATH: 2320/100 280/464

Bye, Wilfred.

Allen


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Re: Testing Synchronet
By: Allen Prunty to Digital Man on Wed Feb 15 2017 04:07 pm

Rob,

I'm passing this on as some are saying that the MSGID that sbbsecho is generating is not compliant with the FTSC Standards. Can you please review?

That's an old topic that's been beat to death and nobody has ever been able to sight a specific instance of software that had a problem with Sychronet/SBBSecho's FTN message-IDs. In summary: it's not a problem.

digital man

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Re: Testing Synchronet
By: Allen Prunty to Digital Man on Wed Feb 15 2017 04:07 pm

I'm passing this on as some are saying that the MSGID that sbbsecho is generating is not compliant with the FTSC Standards. Can you please review?

That's an old topic that's been beat to death and nobody has ever been able to sight a specific instance of software that had a problem with Sychronet/SBBSecho's FTN message-IDs. In summary: it's not a problem.

That's what I'm trying to tell them, you know, the FTSC crew. They're saying, if you follow one part you must follow the entire document. Then Soupgate was brought into the equation... I said, isn't that a program that gates and winds up stripping all PATH and Seen-bys? I asked, if it doesn't know what network it came from what good is a MSGID then. I'm still waiting. They have nothing to do but nitpick over anything yet they're all still using software that's 20 years old and most likely abandoned.

You're fine.


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Re: Testing Synchronet
By: Digital Man to Allen Prunty on Thu Feb 16 2017 18:25:54

I'm passing this on as some are saying that the MSGID that sbbsecho is
generating is not compliant with the FTSC Standards. Can you please
review?

That's an old topic that's been beat to death and nobody has ever been able to sight a specific instance of software that had a problem with Sychronet/SBBSecho's FTN message-IDs. In summary: it's not a problem.

Somebody mentioned that Soupgate is one such program, but probably the only one, that has a problem with it.
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Joe Delahaye wrote to Digital Man on 02-17-17 16:42 <=-

Re: Testing Synchronet
By: Digital Man to Allen Prunty on Thu Feb 16 2017 18:25:54

I'm passing this on as some are saying that the MSGID that sbbsecho is
generating is not compliant with the FTSC Standards. Can you please
review?

That's an old topic that's been beat to death and nobody has ever been able to sight a specific instance of software that had a problem with Sychronet/SBBSecho's FTN message-IDs. In summary: it's not a problem.

Somebody mentioned that Soupgate is one such program, but probably the only one, that has a problem with it.

As I said over there Joe, Soupgate is a Usenet gateway and it strips seen-bys and path information so what's the big deal. They're complaining for the sake they can over nothing.


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Re: Re: Testing Synchronet
By: Bill McGarrity to Digital Man on Thu Feb 16 2017 11:38 pm

That's what I'm trying to tell them, you know, the FTSC crew. They're saying, if you follow one part you must follow the entire document. Then Soupgate was brought into the equation... I said, isn't that a program that gates and winds up stripping all PATH and Seen-bys? I asked, if it doesn't know what network it came from what good is a MSGID then. I'm still waiting. They have nothing to do but nitpick over anything yet they're all still using software that's 20 years old and most likely abandoned.

You know the FTSC crew has beat me up enough over Platinum Express... it is a powerful e-mail system as long as you use it's dialup mailer. It was NEVER designed to be a standalone tosser. I had to write a lot of custom stuff to make it work as a standalone tosser and I'm not the best at coding. It has a bridge to internet rex but they never cashed my check and sent me a registration for it. (Don't have a credit card and they don't take paypal that I could find).

Personally I like knowing I have an active developer and am caught in a catch 22. Last time I tried Synchronet I was damn near blind... January 1st I was barely leagal to drive... now my uncorrected vision is 20/50 which is not too bad and Lenscrafters popped new lenses in my glasses today and I feel like I'm 20 years old (still have a glaring small blind spot in left eye's center visual field but right eye compensates only see it reading up close on white paper).

My catch 22 is that I have a long time friend come out of retirement to do a whole new tosser for Winserver and he's 80% completed it called ViaToss... I really like Winserver but Synchro is doing everything but tics at the moment and I don't yet know how to set up SMNB or set up htick. Had to download whole husky package.

I was hoping for an example config from someone I'm lost with it.

I can still do tics on the wildcat side and got that working perfectly with binkd. PX I'm never going back to ... ever. Viamail will do tic and mail... it's going to be awesome once completed. But the people at Synchronet are much nicer to deal with... so do I abandon wildcat completely and go 100% sync or keep one fott in the door. Like I said I'm really falling in love now I can see enough to do something with it.

Allen

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Re: Testing Synchronet
By: Bill McGarrity to Joe Delahaye on Fri Feb 17 2017 06:50 pm

As I said over there Joe, Soupgate is a Usenet gateway and it strips seen-bys and path information so what's the big deal. They're complaining for the sake they can over nothing.

The problem with Soupgate and Internet Rex (as witnessed in Weather) are real.

Personally, Synchronet gates more elegantly than all of the above. I'm learning that quite quickly.

Allen
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Re: Testing Synchronet
By: Bill McGarrity to Joe Delahaye on Fri Feb 17 2017 18:50:00

That's an old topic that's been beat to death and nobody has ever
been able to sight a specific instance of software that had a
problem with Sychronet/SBBSecho's FTN message-IDs. In summary: it's

not a problem.

Somebody mentioned that Soupgate is one such program, but probably
the only one, that has a problem with it.

As I said over there Joe, Soupgate is a Usenet gateway and it strips seen-bys and path information so what's the big deal. They're complaining for the sake they can over nothing.

Yeah, I knew it was a Usenet gate.Somebody mentioned it was from 2000, but I'm pretty sure my NC at the time, was using it in 93 or so.
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On 2017 Feb 17 16:42:04, you wrote to Digital Man:

I'm passing this on as some are saying that the MSGID that sbbsecho is
generating is not compliant with the FTSC Standards. Can you please
review?

That's an old topic that's been beat to death and nobody has ever
been able to sight a specific instance of software that had a problem
with Sychronet/SBBSecho's FTN message-IDs. In summary: it's not a
problem.

Somebody mentioned that Soupgate is one such program, but probably the only one, that has a problem with it.

it is only a problem with soupgate because it is attempting to do something with the MSGID that it is not intended to be done with... specifically, it is trying to parse it instead of just reading it as a string containing an address
part and followed by a serial number...

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Re: Testing Synchronet
By: mark lewis to Joe Delahaye on Sun Feb 19 2017 16:47:50

Somebody mentioned that Soupgate is one such program, but probably
the only one, that has a problem with it.

it is only a problem with soupgate because it is attempting to do something with the MSGID that it is not intended to be done with... specifically, it is trying to parse it instead of just reading it as a string containing an address part and followed by a serial number...

OK. I dont use it, so have absolutely no idea <G>
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