As for the Christian related items, I have them on my BBS, but users
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I have also set it to where messages posted on my BBS are to use REAL NAMES. This provides for accountability in the postings, instead of
having to hide behind an alias. Users who apply for access who do not
I was using PeerBlock, and that helped stop a bunch of them. But, is there a "list of bad countries", per se?? If so, I can put them into PeerBlock, and that'll stop them from accessing at all.
ipdeny.com has country blocks.
I had to disable PeerBlock, because it not only does NOT allow me to
not get the Sunrise Doors InterBBS compeitition games processed, it also does NOT allow me to access the BBSLinkNet doorgames scores.
someone quote me so daryl can see. he probably blocked me because
i'm going to hell and the devil and the demons are laughing at me.
Not to mention your attitude that I've seen in various messages
from you toward others in several echoes. If you can't say something
nice to someone, don't say anything at all.
Many times, I've seen your messages to others laced with profanity, or engaged in "character assassination". I have enough of a command of the English language where I don't need to use such. To me, profanity is the attempt of a feeble mind to express itself forcibly. When I see users
engaging in such behavior on another BBS, I feel that they will do
likewise on my system...so, they are blocked.
I have also set it to where messages posted on my BBS are to use REAL NAMES. This provides for accountability in the postings, instead of
having to hide behind an alias. Users who apply for access who do not provide their real name are blocked from ever connecting to the BBS
again. They can use an alias after verification, but I've had scores of users over the 25 years I've been a Sysop, try to circumvent the rules
I've laid down...and doing what I've described in this paragraph.
What users do OUTSIDE MY BBS is THEIR BUSINESS...but, they're a Guest
In My Home at logon. And, admittedly, all caps is considered shouting,
but I'm using this for emphasis. If a user or Sysop doesn't want to
logon to my BBS because of the way I run it, that's their choice. There
are likely many more BBS's out there that are probably much more to
their liking.
With FIDONet and QWK Networking, you have NOTHING like that. A message laced with profanity, character assassination, attacking the moderator,
etc. goes through several systems before it gets to the moderator's
As for the Christian related items, I have them on my BBS, but users
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NAMES. This provides for accountability in the postings, instead of having to hide behind an alias. Users who apply for access who do not
As far as using real names - I agree that people shouldn't hide behind an alias. However, I think there are valid reasons one might use an alias besides hiding behind it online to troll people. Some people might just
I was using PeerBlock, and that helped stop a bunch of them. But, is there a "list of bad countries", per se?? If so, I can put them into PeerBlock, and that'll stop them from accessing at all.
ipdeny.com has country blocks.
someone quote me so daryl can see. he probably blocked me because
i'm going to hell and the devil and the demons are laughing at me.
Daryl Stout wrote to MRO on 09-10-17 13:18 <=-
I was using PeerBlock, and that helped stop a bunch of them. But, is there a "list of bad countries", per se?? If so, I can put them into PeerBlock, and that'll stop them from accessing at all.
ipdeny.com has country blocks.
I had to disable PeerBlock, because it not only does NOT allow me to
not get the Sunrise Doors InterBBS compeitition games processed, it
also does NOT allow me to access the BBSLinkNet doorgames scores.
using an alias isnt 'hiding' infact, it was the norm for this hobby and computing in general.
who cares what someone's name is? i sure dont.
I'm just curious, does your BBS software or message editor limit the size of messages that you post? I'm curious why you tend to break messages up into several messages (even mid-sentence, as you've done with this message).
As far as using real names - I agree that people shouldn't hide behind an alias. However, I think there are valid reasons one might use an alias besides hiding behind it online to troll people. Some people might just want a little privacy online - They might have a reason to not want people to easily track them. Perhaps someone has a stalker in real life who might want to follow them.. Who knows, and IMO it's best not to judge people. You don't know what struggles someone might be facing. Using a handle seems to be fairly standard practice - For instance, there's a guitar forum I read & post in online, and everyone there uses a handle.
As for the Christian related items, I have them on my BBS, but users
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Just add the IP addresses of those two to the List Manager under PermAllow and you'll be fine.
Just add the IP addresses of those two to the List Manager under PermAllow and you'll be fine.
Re: Wildcards In IP.CAN f 1/2
By: Bill McGarrity to Daryl Stout on Mon Sep 11 2017 09:07:00
Just add the IP addresses of those two to the List Manager under PermAllow and you'll be fine.
I knew there would have to be away to get around that just like any frewall, etc.. but I've never run PeerBlock.. SBBS does all I need it to do, if I give it enough time to keeps it's database built up.
Nightfox wrote to Daryl Stout <=-
As far as using real names - I agree that people shouldn't hide behind
an alias. However, I think there are valid reasons one might use an
alias besides hiding behind it online to troll people. Some people
might just want a little privacy online - They might have a reason to
not want people to easily track them. Perhaps someone has a stalker in real life who might want to follow them.. Who knows, and IMO it's best not to judge people. You don't know what struggles someone might be facing. Using a handle seems to be fairly standard practice - For instance, there's a guitar forum I read & post in online, and everyone there uses a handle.
And are you sure everyone who has used your BBS has used their real
real name? People could make up a fake first & last name.
KK4QBN wrote to Nightfox <=-
Otherwise, if a use is to lazy to take the 2 minutes to aplly for user acces here, then they will never be a productive member of this system.
I don't ask off the wall question.. Name, Location, Handle, Callsign (handle) email address, and where you heard of the BBS and what you
want to see in a BBS (Why do you visit). takes no more then a couple minutes to sign up..
And I've noticed these BOTS are getting further and further into
peoples systems and inadvertently posting stuff on networked walls,
etc.. just through the random commands/ logins they issue.. So guest account here is gone.. pretty much.
KK4QBN wrote to Mro <=-
LOL, I don'l let my religious or political beliefs govern my BBS, (but will defend myself from persecution)
I'm in no race to get users, they call when they want to.. I have a
good many regulars who call many times a day, but its because I try to welcome them on the system and have something here to please everyone.
I would more than likely put "Tasteful Nudes" on the BBS for a certian security level, because I've had people ask for the quality pics we
used to offer on our website.. we recruited good, up and coming models, paid them well, followed all laws, and was always tasteful with the sites.. we embedded tracking cookies to see what peoples bests
interests were, through referral links, etc.. and it seemed people
liked some raunchy stuff.. thats when we shut down.
I also have other issues that make jumping through hoops something I prever to avoid. I will be keeping my guest account, but will be reviewing the security settings. Long term is I may leave it for file download access only. In this scenaario, telnet guest access might become information about signing up to the BBS and that's in, in this scenario.
Today, no need, because the Internet provides the breadth of content. There's nothing "controversial" that I've seen in current echo lists.
And are you sure everyone who has used your BBS has used their real real name? People could make up a fake first & last name.
That's what I did for those times I need it. :) It looked like a real name, but was an alias.
Re: Re: Wildcards In IP.CAN f 1/2
By: Vk3jed to KK4QBN on Tue Sep 12 2017 08:33:00
Today, no need, because the Internet provides the breadth of content. There's nothing "controversial" that I've seen in current echo lists.
EXACTLY.. its sad that my 9 year old nephew will do a search for some game or addon and get bombarded with explicit pictures on google.. even with
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I'm just curious, does your BBS software or message editor limit the size of N>messages that you post? I'm curious why you tend to break messages up into N>several messages (even mid-sentence, as you've done with this message).
And are you sure everyone who has used your BBS has used their real real name N>People could make up a fake first & last name.
you are using the default peerblock blocklists apparently.
you dont need to do that.
you telling me i was going to hell (FOR 4 PAGES) for something trivial isnt s M>nice either. religious people are the ones with the most skeletons in the M>closet.
there's nothing wrong with some fucking swearing. i'm not a feeble mind, and M>i'm sure if you and i went toe to toe intellectually you wouldnt fare M>well. you'd probably have a medical issue and not show up beforehand, though.
good to know that i am blocked on a bbs i would never visit anyways.
who the fuck cares what name someone uses. i'm not hiding. am i afraid dary M>is going to come to my house and beat me up? nope. also i dont care what name M>you use.
i bet you get no users.
I had to disable PeerBlock, because it not only does NOT allow me to not get the Sunrise Doors InterBBS compeitition games processed, it also does NOT allow me to access the BBSLinkNet doorgames scores.
Just add the IP addresses of those two to the List Manager under PermAllow a BM>you'll be fine.
LOL, I don'l let my religious or political beliefs govern my BBS, (but will K>defend myself from persecution)
I'm in no race to get users, they call when they want to.. I have a good many K>regulars who call many times a day, but its because I try to welcome them on K>the system and have something here to please everyone.
I would more than likely put "Tasteful Nudes" on the BBS for a certian securi K>level, because I've had people ask for the quality pics we used to offer on K>our website.. we recruited good, up and coming models, paid them well, follow K>all laws, and was always tasteful with the sites.. we embedded tracking cooki K>to see what peoples bests interests were, through referral links, etc.. and i K>seemed people liked some raunchy stuff.. thats when we shut down.
Still it was a good venture considering T1 was the quickest backbone running K>from chattanooga to our area, and we ran dual ISDN lines and would change K>settings as need to either give better bandwith to the website or free up K>phonelines for POTS calls coming in (We provided PPP and BBS dialup acces and K>could have four incoming lines at once coming in and 64mbs going in/out think K>it was divided)
I've had a couple of twits...even a "Sysop" who refused to provide his details. As a result, he was banned from the system. I don't remember
his name, or his system.
reached". I feel that "honesty is the best policy" (as per the late Ben Franklin <G>),
If the user commits a serious egregious violation of the BBS rules,
then I advise other Confirmed Visiting Sysops, so that they may protect their systems. We've spent too much time and money, to let a twit
destroy everything.
you are using the default peerblock blocklists apparently.
you dont need to do that.
Well, it won't let me run certain BBS or ham radio programs. So, I had
to disable it.
I wouldn't waste my time. Vengenance is The Lord's -- He will take
care of you in His own time.
i bet you get no users.
I'm not running the BBS for my ego, and it doesn't bother me if I get
very few users. If I didn't enjoy the BBS, I would have shut it down
years ago.
Just add the IP addresses of those two to the List Manager under PermAllow a BM>you'll be fine.
The Sunrise Doors InterBBS competition has its own processor...not
sure what it's IP address is...and the same thing applies for the ham
radio application of CQ100.
I am manually adding the IP of the "temporary block" addresses into
the ip.can file; in effect, permanently blocking them from the BBS. I'm
also doing the same to these IP's, who are slamming my system via SSH
logon attempts.
I've had a couple of twits...even a "Sysop" who refused to provide his
details. As a result, he was banned from the system. I don't remember
his name, or his system.
just because someone doesnt want to give a stranger his real personal information just to use a shitty bbs, that doesnt make him a twit.
i wouldnt let any kid use the internet without close supervision.
maybe that's why my son is so fucking computer illiterate now. my gf's daughter is 12 and got in trouble a bunch of times on her phone. she even catfished a guy.
Did you get much damage from Hurricane Irma?? The ham radio and
damage reports I saw from Florida were staggering.
we dont even HAVE users nowadays.
Well, it won't let me run certain BBS or ham radio programs. So, I had
to disable it.
peerblock doesnt prevent bbs or ham radio programs to run.
it only has blocklists that you can optionally use.
seems like a lot of work for nothing. but if you have the free time, go ahead. you know you could just cat the file into ip.can hourly
Mro wrote to Bill McGarrity on 09-11-17 18:34 <=-
Re: Wildcards In IP.CAN f 1/2
By: Bill McGarrity to Daryl Stout on Mon Sep 11 2017 09:07 am
Just add the IP addresses of those two to the List Manager under PermAllow and you'll be fine.
well those default lists arent any good really. they have always had issues. it blocks many game companies like activision and residential
ip addresses too. it's best to make up your own list and the syntax is pretty easy. ---
Bill,
I had to disable PeerBlock, because it not only does NOT allow me to not get the Sunrise Doors InterBBS compeitition games processed, it also does NOT allow me to access the BBSLinkNet doorgames scores.
Just add the IP addresses of those two to the List Manager under PermAllow a BM>you'll be fine.
The Sunrise Doors InterBBS competition has its own processor...not
sure what it's IP address is...and the same thing applies for the ham
radio application of CQ100.
I am manually adding the IP of the "temporary block" addresses into
the ip.can file; in effect, permanently blocking them from the BBS. I'm
also doing the same to these IP's, who are slamming my system via SSH
logon attempts.
just because someone doesnt want to give a stranger his real personal information just to use a shitty bbs, that doesnt make him a twit.
no, it makes them a twunt... if it is a "shitty bbs", WTF are they doing there on it anyway?
we dont even HAVE users nowadays.
Umm... I have a few regulars, and usually get 1-2 new users a week, the pots line is pretty damn popular too..
Maybe It's how the people percieve the SYSOP of a bbs??
peerblock doesnt prevent bbs or ham radio programs to run.
it only has blocklists that you can optionally use.
Well something is blocking outgoing traffic on his system.. the BBSLINK connector was'nt working, He disables peerblock and then it works..
the bbslink connector is a hacked over telgate feature..
if you have the answers tell us?
Re: Wildcards In IP.CAN f 1/2
By: Mro to Daryl Stout on Tue Sep 12 2017 00:07:18
seems like a lot of work for nothing. but if you have the free time, go ahead. you know you could just cat the file into ip.can hourly
be nice and give him an example HOW instead of berating him and being such a prick.. You used to actually offer help to people, but anymore you won't offer them crap without first being a dick.. either you're just turning into a sour old man, or you have issues.. very serious issues.. there is no use in this.. go troll on facebook..
just because someone doesnt want to give a stranger his real personal M>information just to use a shitty bbs, that doesnt make him a twit.
you know ben franklin cheated on his wife, right?
we dont even HAVE users nowadays.
I have real issues with this, especially in the modern climate of personal V>information gathering. While that's not something a BBS sysop does (for V>pusposes other than running the BBS itself), the perception is out there, V>because of all those services that _do_ collect your information to add you t V>their mailing lists.
DM has fixed this issue with a new upgraded logon.js and a couple other thing K>that one would need to fix to make sure it works correctly.. I beleive the K>thread is in dovenet Synchronet programming.
Tim,
DM has fixed this issue with a new upgraded logon.js and a couple other thing K>that one would need to fix to make sure it works correctly.. I beleive the K>thread is in dovenet Synchronet programming.
I'll have go get that new logon.js -- unless it was in the new SBBS_DEV.ZIP that I got last night. I did have to reboot the system to
unzip it, because the system wouldn't let SMBUTIL be replaced, even
though I had shut down the Synchronet Control Panel. Once I rebooted,
and extracted SBBS_DEV.ZIP to C:\SBBS\EXEC, everything extracted fine. That's the first time I've had a problem with extracting files from it.
infact, one guy called me a homosexual (using not so nice words)here and said i never did anything for the bbs community. so i banned his ass from my bbs.
Umm... I have a few regulars, and usually get 1-2 new users a week,
the pots line is pretty damn popular too..
yeah i get that. i dont consider that real traffic though. i had a pots line up for 5 yrs or so but only one guy used it and he was just an experimenter retro guy.
Maybe It's how the people percieve the SYSOP of a bbs??
i dont think any users know anything about the sysops of bbses nor do they research about it.
infact, one guy called me a homosexual (using not so nice words)here and said i never did anything for the bbs community. so i banned his ass from my bbs. my bbs had the best lord game according to him and he loved it.
if you have the answers tell us?
i already said it many times over many months. you dont use those default shit lists.
i already told this nutjob 100 times. over the past 3 months
just because someone doesnt want to give a stranger his real personal M>information just to use a shitty bbs, that doesnt make him a twit.
Even if the President of the United States showed up at my door, with
the Secret Service in tow, I would want ID.
If I don't know someone's true identity, or whether I can trust them,
they are NOT WELCOME in my home, or on my BBS.
you know ben franklin cheated on his wife, right?
That's none of my concern. He's not the first person in history to do that.
infact, one guy called me a homosexual (using not so nice words)here and said i never did anything for the bbs community. so i banned his ass from my bbs.
You have also used not-so-nice words to call people that on Dove-Net.. Not too long ago, in fact. Just wanted to point that out..
well.. obviously he researched you and your antics somewhere, to find out that you really do more harm to the bbs community than good.. so there you just debunked your own opinion..
i already said it many times over many months. you dont use those default shit lists.
people tend to disregard the rest of your message when you call them idiots, or other choice words, so pretty much everything else you type beyond the halfway relative stuff you do mutter goes unseen.
Re: Wildcards In IP.CAN f 1/2
By: Mro to KK4QBN on Tue Sep 12 2017 16:02:58
i already told this nutjob 100 times. over the past 3 months
Referenece my last message regarding this.
actually, no he didnt. he didnt know shit. and when he was banned from my systems and websites he was surprised and he was crying about it.
i havent harmed the bbs community one bit. infact it's not possible to harm the bbs community period. the only way to harm the community would be
people tend to disregard the rest of your message when you call them
idiots, or other choice words, so pretty much everything else you type
beyond the halfway relative stuff you do mutter goes unseen.
this guy has 2 brain cells and they're fighting.
if your theory is correct [which it probably isnt], i couldnt care less.
Referenece my last message regarding this.
nope.
KK4QBN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
DM has fixed this issue with a new upgraded logon.js and a couple other things that one would need to fix to make sure it works correctly.. I beleive the thread is in dovenet Synchronet programming.
KK4QBN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
EXACTLY.. its sad that my 9 year old nephew will do a search for some
game or addon and get bombarded with explicit pictures on google.. even with strict filtering..
sad indeed.. I'm all for open internet, but lets at least try to keep
our pre-pubescent kids as innocent as possible.
when I walked on him one day with those pics on the browser, he told me
he was searching for something for minecraft and it came up.. I believe him.. so I sat him down and explained to him what his father should
have.
He left with a better understanding and now I do not believe it will
scare him.
I'm not going to lie.. I looked at Playboys, etc when I was 8 or 9 but
not none of the crap that is freely acessible today.. My dad say me
down and taught me that nudity was natural and sex was natural, I guess thats when I got my birds and bees talks..
Bad parenting is what creates sexual predators IMHO.
Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-
i'm pretty sure with fidonet you can SIGN your name, or you can just
use a real looking name.
Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-
1) As long as you play by the simple rules I've laid down, your data is kept STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL. If you break the rules, Confirmed Visiting Sysops are notified of your data, so that they can protect their
systems.
When my late wife and Co-Sysop was alive, even she did NOT have
access to the data...that's how seriously I took it. And, in the over
25 years of being a Sysop, I've NEVER had a law enforcement subpeona
for user data...and I intend to keep it that way. I'm going to run the system "above board".
2) They will NOT be sent mail from the Sysop, unless they initiate a message first.
I am manually adding the IP of the "temporary block" addresses into the
ip.can file; in effect, permanently blocking them from the BBS. I'm
also doing the same to these IP's, who are slamming my system via SSH
logon attempts.
That's unnecessary. Synchronet can automatically do this for you. Just
set the "Perm Filter Threshold" to the same value that you currently
have for the "Temp Ban Threshold" and those IP addresses will be automatically added your ip.can file, effectively disabling the
temp-ban feature altogether.
DM has fixed this issue with a new upgraded logon.js and a couple
other things that one would need to fix to make sure it works
correctly.. I beleive the thread is in dovenet Synchronet
programming.
Oh, OK. I don't follow that area closely, because it's mostly the finer points of the coding, and C is not my language. :) I'm still to upgrade to 3.17, last attempt failed to compile, and haven't got around to it since.
LoginAttemptDelay=5000 < these 2 create a pause before allowing LoginAttemptThrottle=1000 login prompt to reappear. LoginAttemptHackThreshold=10 Logs attempted hack LoginAttemptTempBanThreshold=20 tmp ban saved in memory LoginAttemptTempBanDuration=10M for a total of _ minutes LoginAttemptFilterThreshold=10 attemps before added to ip.can
That's unnecessary. Synchronet can automatically do this for you. Just set t DM>"Perm Filter Threshold" to the same value that you currently have for the "T DM>Ban Threshold" and those IP addresses will be automatically added your ip.ca DM>file, effectively disabling the temp-ban feature altogether.
That works for me. No one, other than myself ever got access to user TL>information, except for the friend who took over the system, and he never TL>divulged anything either.
Same here. Never had an issue with law enforcement, and as a matter of fact TL>we did put in a submission to an early inquiry into regulation of online TL>systems.
2) They will NOT be sent mail from the Sysop, unless they initiate a message first.
Yep. :)
... What you can do to stop obscene phone calls: Don't make them!
infact, one guy called me a homosexual (using not so nice
words)here and said i never did anything for the bbs community. so
i banned his ass from my bbs.
You have also used not-so-nice words to call people that on Dove-Net..
Not too long ago, in fact. Just wanted to point that out..
whats your point?
I also saw a bizarre hostname slam the system...
I.DareYou.ToHit.This
It is now in the host filter.
I've also notice at times with the emails, some try to hack that,
and both usually resolve to 72.52.4.122 (I have several blacklists
enabled) -- and at times, these come in with a reversible IP (in
this case, 122.4.52.72) -- so, I block both.
On 2017 Sep 12 13:31:30, you wrote to Daryl Stout:
I am manually adding the IP of the "temporary block" addresses into the
ip.can file; in effect, permanently blocking them from the BBS. I'm
also doing the same to these IP's, who are slamming my system via SSH
logon attempts.
That's unnecessary. Synchronet can automatically do this for you. Just set the "Perm Filter Threshold" to the same value that you currently have for the "Temp Ban Threshold" and those IP addresses will be automatically added your ip.can file, effectively disabling the temp-ban feature altogether.
what are the INI file keys for "Perm Filter Threshold" and "Temp Ban Threshold"?
i havent harmed the bbs community one bit. infact it's not possible to harm the bbs community period. the only way to harm the community would be to attack bbses and make them unconnectable or something to that effect.
Re: Wildcards In IP.CAN f 1/2
By: Mro to KK4QBN on Tue Sep 12 2017 19:32:35
actually, no he didnt. he didnt know shit. and when he was banned from my systems and websites he was surprised and he was crying about it.
i havent harmed the bbs community one bit. infact it's not possible to harm the bbs community period. the only way to harm the community would be
Why not just go back to using your old handle.. because obviously you are OBVLIOUS to MANY things.
if your theory is correct [which it probably isnt], i couldnt care less.
Actually, He is just as smart or smarter than anyone in this network, different people have different ways of looking at things.. there are some
Re: Wildcards In IP.CAN f 1/2
By: Mro to KK4QBN on Tue Sep 12 2017 19:33:50
Referenece my last message regarding this.
nope.
Troll.. (I'm beginning to think this is too nice a label for you).
Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-
1) As long as you play by the simple rules I've laid down, your data is kept STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL. If you break the rules, Confirmed Visiting Sysops are notified of your data, so that they can protect their systems.
That works for me. No one, other than myself ever got access to user information, except for the friend who took over the system, and he never divulged anything either.
That will help. I'm getting slammed by SSH bots.
I also saw a bizarre hostname slam the system...
I.DareYou.ToHit.This
It is now in the host filter.
I've also notice at times with the emails, some try to hack that, and
both usually resolve to 72.52.4.122 (I have several blacklists enabled)
-- and at times, these come in with a reversible IP (in this case, 122.4.52.72) -- so, I block both.
whats your point?
It seems a little hypocritical to ban someone from your BBS for that, and then you go and talk like that to other people.
i havent harmed the bbs community one bit. infact it's not possible
to harm the bbs community period. the only way to harm the community
would be to attack bbses and make them unconnectable or something to
that effect.
In my time on Dove-Net, I've seen several new sysops be driven away by trollish antics from other members on Dove-Net.. Often by bashing them for not doing enough research or putting up a BBS that isn't modded enough, etc.
In my time on Dove-Net, I've seen several new sysops be driven away by trollish antics from other members on Dove-Net.. Often by bashing them for not doing enough research or putting up a BBS that isn't modded enough, etc.
whats your point?
It seems a little hypocritical to ban someone from your BBS for that, and then you go and talk like that to other people.
Remember who you're talking to.. decency, common courtesy, and dare I say intelligence take a back seat when it comes to him..
I was going to make a political pot shot, but will bite my tongue because I really would rather not see the mess that would unfold.. so.. use your imaginations folks..
I first came back in July or so of last year, and no sooner did I get hooked back up with dovenet this jackelop started on me, drudging up the past about my PAST active drug addiction, etc.. in fear of relapse because of his ignorance and shear disregard for the human race I just dropped it all and went away..
with him on a good many things, but if he was'nt such a trollish Dick he would be cool IMO.. I know he's gonna come back with "know one cares about your opinion" and "I do what I want, this is my world" or some stupid shit like that... but I don't care.. as long as he continues being a twit, twat, wanker, skater boi wanna be I'll bask in the fact that I know I, and everyone else here is better than him for that.. and I do realize he needs serious mental help so I try my best not to bash him too hard..
I'll never ever again put him in my twitlist, because you do not walk away from people who need help.. MRO go get that help that you desperatly need.. I did.. and it worked for me.. I was very seriously addicted to opiates.. and I am still and will always be an addict. I went to rehab and used the tools given to me to keep me straight.. I'm sure they have something out
Why not just go back to using your old handle.. because obviously you
are OBVLIOUS to MANY things.
i like this one because it's shorter.
i offered a cash reward in the past to people that could provide proof that i harmed the bbs community. nobody got it.
Actually, He is just as smart or smarter than anyone in this network,
different people have different ways of looking at things.. there are
some
yeah ok.
Troll.. (I'm beginning to think this is too nice a label for you).
you dont even know what a troll is.
with the way today's sysops do things i wouldnt trust my information with them. they run older versions of windows that are easily compromised and lose their systems to 'crashes' and never seem to backup.
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
the file in questions is javascript, and you can upgrade your binaries without having to compile the source code, they have nightly builds on
the website.
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
If there's no reason to divulge, why do it??
When I did a brief stint at Little Rock 911, they did a complete criminal background check on me...and they do the same on a yearly
basis out where I live.
Yet, when I worked at Burger King 40 years ago...and then in
silkscreen printing for nearly 20 years, people would come in, and have
no idea what they wanted...expecting us to figure it out for them!!
That was even with a menu, and samples of what we had printed!!
... What you can do to stop obscene phone calls: Don't make them!
Tell that to former college football coach Hugh Freeze. <G> It came
out that he did that (called an out of state escort service), and he abruptly resigned!!
Mro wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
with the way today's sysops do things i wouldnt trust my information
with them. they run older versions of windows that are easily
compromised and lose their systems to 'crashes' and never seem to
Teh proof is in the pudding bud.. it's all over google... I'll admit, You have HELPED many people.. but you have also done things to run Sysops and users off..
And its latin roots are:
MrOblivious1BMF..
Mro wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
with the way today's sysops do things i wouldnt trust my information with them. they run older versions of windows that are easily compromised and lose their systems to 'crashes' and never seem to
I don't run Windows for server applications, and a BBS is a server. Linux is a better OS for those applications in my opinion. Windows is fine for the end user though.
you come and go all the time. dont blame it on other people. you are unstable.
you started a fight and i finished it.
the file in questions is javascript, and you can upgrade your
binaries without having to compile the source code, they have
nightly builds on the website.
ARRRGH, another Windows user. AFAIK, binaries are only for Windows, I run on a Pi.
In my time on Dove-Net, I've seen several new sysops be driven away by
trollish antics from other members on Dove-Net.. Often by bashing
them for not doing enough research or putting up a BBS that isn't
modded enough, etc.
nobody ever left bbsing because of what another sysop said in a msg network. never happened ever.
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
the file in questions is javascript, and you can upgrade your binaries without having to compile the source code, they have nightly builds on the website.
ARRRGH, another Windows user. AFAIK, binaries are only for Windows, I run on a Pi.
ARRRGH, another Windows user. AFAIK, binaries are only for Windows, I
run on a Pi.
nobody ever left bbsing because of what another sysop said in a msg network. never happened ever.
Oh really? I don't remember names specifically right now, but I remember seeing several sysops on Dove-Net getting fed up and saying they were going to quit because of the crap they got from others on Dove-Net.
I had to have a police check to join the fire brigade, and other police chec TL>are likely in the future, all routine. I'm also constantly monitored for TL>evidence of certain offences, as a condition to maintaining my working with TL>children permit, which is a state requirement for any work, paid or voluntee TL>that involved direct contact with children, either in person or over TL>communication media (phone, Internet, etc). One good thing they did here is TL>made checks for volunteers free, but I have to pay for mine, becaise I do pa TL>work with kids.
no idea what they wanted...expecting us to figure it out for them!! That was even with a menu, and samples of what we had printed!!
Hahaha :)
Tell that to former college football coach Hugh Freeze. <G> It came out that he did that (called an out of state escort service), and he abruptly resigned!!
Oops. :D
There was a time I used a "real looking" alias on some nets and echoes.
Today, no need, because the Internet provides the breadth of content. There's nothing "controversial" that I've seen in current echo lists.
MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
in a loose sense of the word it's a server. anyways, most of us are running a 32 os windows os that suits our bbs and our legacy dos games.
it's cool if you want to emulate the dos environment for your
doorgames, but you are at a disadvange in this situation. i'd suggest running it in a vm on your linux server like i do.
if you're running linux synchronet for its ssh server, email server,
http, etc you are better off using something else.
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I hope you're talking about the original poster.. although I don't run
on a Pi, I'm by far not a windows user.. most of my services run off linux, My IRC server, and POTS server run off an old rusty XP machine
that has better uptime then my linux box does BTW. (upgrades.) My XP machine has been running since before I moved my whole BBS (minus the
irc server, bots and pots server) flawlessly.. it was just a bit too
slow to keep up with the growth of my BBS.
This old tower says "Optimized for AOL" if that tells you anything. I
paid about 2.50 for it at a thrift store and another 2 bucks for the
17" flatscreen monitor.. Now I have dual monitors on my linux box and
the one on the XP machine "Like I really need it.. I only use it to monitor pots connections every now and then). But really.. come one..
why shame someone for what OS they use.. thats like some of these Ham radio operators shaming others for using Chinese radios.. Newsflash people.. the components of all these radios are built on the same
freaking assembly line by the same 5 year old kids in China.. get a
grip.. you just paid 15x more for yours than I did mine.. You're afraid
to use your 400+ dollar ht because it might get dirty.. I'll throw mine
in the mud puddle, pick it up, get shocked (they'll shock whether their wet or not haha.. and keep using it)
Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I release daily builds for linux-x64 too (sbbs_dev.tgz).
Joe Schweier wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
@TZ: 4168
ARRRGH, another Windows user. AFAIK, binaries are only for Windows, I
run on a Pi.
Have you been running Synchronet on a pi?? How's that working out for you??
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
A friend of the family worked for the Little Rock Police Department,
and had stopped by my parents home 20 years ago, and was chatting with
my Dad (he passed away 10 1/2 years ago). I had just gotten home from
work at a silkscreen print shop, when the officer decided to have some
fun with me. Over the bullhorn speaker it was "You in the jeans and
grungy clothes!! Up against the wall and spread them!!". :P
It's like printing a card with directions in ENGLISH on it, and they still can't follow it. Now, I admit that I nearly flunked first grade
for having trouble following directions in school...but at the young
age, I can understand that. These are full grown adults who can't seem
to understand plain English!!
The college was already in trouble with the National Collegiate
Athletic Association (NCAA), the body that governs collegiate sports in the U.S. and its territories. So, when they go before "the committee on infractions", they really are going to have some explaining to do!!
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Back in the day, one of my othernet colleagues used a "real looking"
alias as his real name on the othernets, and his "real" real name on Fidonet. There came quite a kerfluffle when he was accused by the Fido
NEC of providing an unauthorized Fidonet feed to himself.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I get requests for "Elite File Access" occasionally. One of my menus
has "Elite files" listed without a menu option, the other links the
Elite files option to "hangup".
KK4QBN wrote to Mro <=-
I fully agree.. I feel weird just asking the questions I do ask..
Name
Password
Handle
Location
and write an email with any suggestions, gripes, whatever.. or
NOTHING..
I would'nt want anymore information from anyone.. and the only reason I ask for email is if someone wants to join the mailing list, or if I
need to get updates out to people who call only once a month or so.
It was not so much about the OS people use, more about the assumption that because one is running an OS (most commonly Windows for reasons of convenience, since the installed base of compilers is much smaller proportionally) for which a precompiled version is available for download. It's those blind assumptions that annoy me more. I don't care what OS people use, just don't assume I'm using the same or that upgrade and other paths are the same! :)
Cool, good to know, if I ever change architecture (such as move to a VPS). But I run on a Pi at the moment. Daily builds for the Pi would be nice (especially as I run on a 1B), but I understand why they might not be available. :)
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Yeay, you would probably be the rare exeception that would need to
build your own, but as DM stated there are binaries for both windows
and linux, and if I'm not mistaken the whole reasone wer were even speaking of prebuilt binaries was because someone running windows
(maybe Daryl) was asking about upgrading but did'nt want ot build his
own src.. I might be way off on this though because I've processed a
lot of messages lately (most of it not worth the bits it took to write
it) :-)
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Build them daily and offer them yourself?! :-)
Somewhere the issue of me upgrading did come up, and the fact I have to compile it. Pre-built binaries would be nice, given the lengthy compile time on the Pi 1B
Build them daily and offer them yourself?! :-)
Which brings me back to my original problem - compilation time! :( Now, if I had a Pi 3, or if I could cross compile for the Pi on an x86 host, then it might be feasible. :)
Have you been running Synchronet on a pi?? How's that working out fo you??
Yes, for almost 2 years. Runs very well. :) I don't have any DOS doors to run, only native JS ones.
it's cool if you want to emulate the dos environment for your doorgames, but you are at a disadvange in this situation. i'd suggest running it in a vm on your linux server like i do.
I'm not running any doors locally, but I am using BBSLink as a remote door server.
version... I di not know enough to know what that means... When I et Mystic up under windwos and couldn't get any doors to work... the author called me a troll and said I was out to trash him and his software.... I fixed my door issue by setting up SBBS as a door server and had mystic log in to Synchronet in order to run games.
that's too bad. i checked it out again the other day and it still looks pretty mediocre. lord game doesnt even have any igms.
part of what makes a bbs good is putting work into it. if you just use shortcuts like these door servers, it cheapens the feel.
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I'm getting me a PI sometime soon.. I already have a bunch of Arduino boards with atmega chip (tons can be done with them). I bash
successfully runnig on my Wii, I wonder if it's possible to build SBBS
on the Wii.. seems far fetched :)
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
AH, gotcha now... time for another pie :)
IB JOE wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Good to know.... I am not a linux user, just learning, Mystic BBS has a
pi version... I di not know enough to know what that means... When I
et Mystic up under windwos and couldn't get any doors to work... the author called me a troll and said I was out to trash him and his software.... I fixed my door issue by setting up SBBS as a door server
and had mystic log in to Synchronet in order to run games.
Great news for the BBS community and linux users... %JoHo%, the author
of Frontdoor is back in the mix and he's working on a possible linux version of FD...
MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
that's too bad. i checked it out again the other day and it still looks pretty mediocre. lord game doesnt even have any igms.
part of what makes a bbs good is putting work into it. if you just use shortcuts like these door servers, it cheapens the feel.
KK4QBN wrote to MRO <=-
Along with tons of other stuff.. I'm working on a shell right now that will work liek more of a RPG instead of a menuing system to get around
the BBS. so goto external, message, file, and other areas one will need
to follow a story mode type rpg.. maybe even give them ways to interact with each other, fight, and do other things..
MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
that's too bad. i checked it out again the other day and it still looks pretty mediocre. lord game doesnt even have any igms.
There's others out there.
What OS were/are you running Mystic under? Regardless of BBS software, you have to use either Windows 32 bit (64 bit won't work), or Linux on a PC with DOSemu to be able to run DOS doors. Yes, Synchronet does make a great door server, and it has a few tricks that make it easier to run
DOS doors under it. I haven't tried doing that myself yet, could be an interesting side project.
Arduino is on my purchase list, just haven't got around to it yet. They look like a lot of fun to play with. :) Hmm, SBBS on a Wii, that's novel. :)
I... for the life of me cannot get doors, I got 1 or 2 to work... but I mean none of the ones I like. And I spent hours trying to get them to work.
Problem solved. Author called me a trole.... I honestly wanted themm to work and I honestly put in the hours in effort and could not get them to work.
BTW, my VM crashed and took everything out... bought a raspbarry pi 3 to have some fun and learn... I know nothing about linux... Installed the software
and I'm playing around with it.
I tried to install the linux version of SBBS today and couldn't get it to go... at least this time I know its me.
At some point in the future I will learn how to install SBBS and I'll start to play with the linux version
It's like printing a card with directions in ENGLISH on it, and they still can't follow it. Now, I admit that I nearly flunked first grade for having trouble following directions in school...but at the young age, I can understand that. These are full grown adults who can't seem to understand plain English!!
Oh, that's like working in tech support. :)
... I got a new shadow. My last shadow wasn't doing what I was doing.
IB JOE wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I get where you're going... I had a windows XP 32bit VM setup.... I can get any door... what-so-ever, to work under SBBS, or any other BBS
package for that matter... I also have a copy of WINServer, Wild Cat 5
on hand as well. I have been a SysOp since 1991....
I ended up setting SBBS up as a door server and had Mystic log into
that.. Problem solved. Author called me a trole.... I honestly wanted themm to work and I honestly put in the hours in effort and could not
get them to work.
BTW, my VM crashed and took everything out... bought a raspbarry pi 3
to have some fun and learn... I know nothing about linux... Installed
the software and I'm playing around with it.
I tried to install the linux version of SBBS today and couldn't get it
to go... at least this time I know its me.
At some point in the future I will learn how to install SBBS and I'll start to play with the linux version
Thank you for your interest!!
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Well, have a working linux base system un the Wii, believe that is the
os for it anyway (Gentoo I believe... Might be wrong) but with my
current softmod, I have a bash prompt with internet connectivity,
keyboard and mouse works. dunno what type of processor is in it though without looking it up.. probably arm.
Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-
The examples that come to mind are:
1) When the computer said it couldn't find the printer, the woman shook the printer in front of her monitor, and screamed "HERE IT IS!! WHY
CAN'T YOU SEE IT??!!" <G>
my current softmod, I have a bash prompt with internet connectivity,
keyboard and mouse works. dunno what type of processor is in it
though without looking it up.. probably arm.
Shuld be able to do a uname -a to find the architecture.
KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Shuld be able to do a uname -a to find the architecture.
I will try that, I know I'm wrong with Gentoo I believe.. but It's a
specialized OS for the wii, but it is linux based.. able to have bash
on there because the softmod.. I'll look into that further later on.. still have too many things to catch up with her on the BBS.
I have been playing with trying to update the windows vewrsion of SBBS. I downloaded a file that had all the exe directgory, I think I did anyway.... I'm getting an error everytime I go to read a message though... Something about a bin file for Avitars not being in the exec directory.
I do not know how to compile programs... what is the easiest way to update SBBS to it's current version??
Re: SBBS Updates
By: IB Joe to All on Sun Oct 28 2018 10:24:10
I have been playing with trying to update the windows vewrsion of SBBS. I
downloaded a file that had all the exe directgory, I think I did
anyway.... I'm getting an error everytime I go to read a message
though...
Something about a bin file for Avitars not being in the exec directory.
I do not know how to compile programs... what is the easiest way to
update
SBBS to it's current version??
Downloading the build archive (sbbs_dev.zip) is one step.
Updating scripts etc
is another:
http://wiki.synchro.net/install:dev
See Step 4. You can overwrite any .js stuff in your
exec/ and exec/load/
directories assuming you haven't modified anything in
there. If you do have
customizations in there, they should be copied to mods/.
Be careful when it comes to updating files anywhere else
(text/, ctrl/) as you
don't want to overwrite your own customizations or
config.
I muddled through step 4... ran jsexec update and I still have an issue with the BBS looking for a bin file related to avitars.
Re: SBBS Updates
By: Joe Schweier to echicken on Sun Oct 28 2018 20:24:28
I muddled through step 4... ran jsexec update and I still have an
issue with the BBS looking for a bin file related to avitars.
If possible, please share the actual error message. (Always.)
Does the file 'exec/avatars.js' exist on your system?
I muddled through step 4... ran jsexec update and I still have an
issue with the BBS looking for a bin file related to avitars.
Does the file 'exec/avatars.js' exist on your system?
Nope, and I fixed things kinda sorta... I have had a working copy of SBBS
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