• Why I Run A BBS

    From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to VK3JED on Tue Sep 12 11:33:00 2017
    Tony,

    I run my systems for one user - me. If anyone else likes what I'm doing and V>wants to stick around, great, but if they don't, that's fine by me too.

    THANK YOU!!

    Yes, back in the day, a lot of BBSs had somewhat "raunchy" sections, usually V>only offered to users who the sysop had a particularly good relationship with

    Years ago in central Arkansas, when there were at least a dozen local
    BBS's, there were monthly gatherings of Sysops and users at local
    restaurants. Like with ham radio hamfests, it was "an experience"
    putting faces to user names. :)

    One female Sysop ran an adult BBS, and she was "carding" every single
    person who applied for access. I never did call her BBS.

    Today, no need, because the Internet provides the breadth of content. There' V>nothing "controversial" that I've seen in current echo lists.

    When I was on dial-up only over 20 years ago, I had a caller page me
    for chat. He asked "Where's all the adult content??". When I typed "The Internet", his response was <CLICK!> -- NO CARRIER. <G>

    ... The wheel's spinning, but the hamster's dead.

    His ghosts keep it moving. <G>

    Daryl
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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Tue Sep 12 11:32:00 2017
    Tim,

    EXACTLY.. its sad that my 9 year old nephew will do a search for some game or K>addon and get bombarded with explicit pictures on google.. even with strict K>filtering..

    sad indeed.. I'm all for open internet, but lets at least try to keep our K>pre-pubescent kids as innocent as possible.

    Exactly. They'll likely hear from it from their classmates first.

    when I walked on him one day with those pics on the browser, he told me he wa K>searching for something for minecraft and it came up.. I believe him.. so I s K>him down and explained to him what his father should have.

    He left with a better understanding and now I do not believe it will scare hi

    Sort of like a user wanting access to adult files, even though he's
    under 18. His reason?? "I need them for a high school sex education
    class project!!". Nice try, but no dice. <G>

    I'm not going to lie.. I looked at Playboys, etc when I was 8 or 9 but not no K>of the crap that is freely acessible today.. My dad say me down and taught me K>that nudity was natural and sex was natural, I guess thats when I got my bird K>and bees talks..

    I remember a cartoon from MAD magazine years ago. Someone had used
    graffitti on a newstand that was selling Playboy. After their deed, it
    read "If you enjoy self PLAY, BOY this magazine will sure help!!". :P

    It's not like the old days of "the birds and the beees"...especially
    in the Yogi Bear cartoon, where Yogi explains that to Boo Boo...in that
    "birds fly, and bees make honey". :P

    Now, they say "sex is a misdemeanor -- the more you miss, the meaner
    you get!!". <G> Just what these hormone fevered adolescents need to hear <sigh!>.

    Daryl

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 13 13:16:00 2017
    Daryl Stout wrote to VK3JED <=-

    I run my systems for one user - me. If anyone else likes what I'm doing and
    wants to stick around, great, but if they don't, that's fine by me too.

    THANK YOU!!

    The point being each of us has our reasons for running a BBS. Today, costs are much lower, so we don't have to justify our rationale for running a BBS.

    Years ago in central Arkansas, when there were at least a dozen local BBS's, there were monthly gatherings of Sysops and users at local restaurants. Like with ham radio hamfests, it was "an experience"
    putting faces to user names. :)

    Yes, BBS meets were fun, I remember going to one and having a ball.

    One female Sysop ran an adult BBS, and she was "carding" every single person who applied for access. I never did call her BBS.

    "carding"? Female sysops were a relatively rare breed, in any case. I only recall encountering one or two back then.

    Today, no need, because the Internet provides the breadth of content.
    here'
    nothing "controversial" that I've seen in current echo lists.

    When I was on dial-up only over 20 years ago, I had a caller page me
    for chat. He asked "Where's all the adult content??". When I typed "The Internet", his response was <CLICK!> -- NO CARRIER. <G>

    Hahaha. :D

    ... The wheel's spinning, but the hamster's dead.

    His ghosts keep it moving. <G>

    LOL :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 13 13:24:00 2017
    Daryl Stout wrote to KK4QBN <=-

    Sort of like a user wanting access to adult files, even though he's under 18. His reason?? "I need them for a high school sex education
    class project!!". Nice try, but no dice. <G>

    That one's as old as the hills. :D

    graffitti on a newstand that was selling Playboy. After their deed, it read "If you enjoy self PLAY, BOY this magazine will sure help!!". :P

    LOL!

    It's not like the old days of "the birds and the beees"...especially
    in the Yogi Bear cartoon, where Yogi explains that to Boo Boo...in that "birds fly, and bees make honey". :P

    Now, they say "sex is a misdemeanor -- the more you miss, the meaner
    you get!!". <G> Just what these hormone fevered adolescents need to
    hear <sigh!>.

    Haha, but it's true. :D


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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Wed Sep 13 10:04:00 2017
    Tim,

    He is trolling you... if y'all want to keep this thread up, please move it to K>the RELIGION area.. for the sanity of us all..

    I have now put his name in the TWIT configuration of Synchronet...so
    any further messages from him will automatically be deleted by
    Synchronet. I looked through the documentation, and discovered
    that...it's like the SPOTKILL utility for GT Power BBS software.

    So, he will never darken my message bases again. Thankfully, the
    others I've seen in DoveNet aren't as vitrolic as he is.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Wed Sep 13 08:57:00 2017
    Tim,

    we dodged the bullet brother.. the first few track projections showed the eye K>coming right up through our area, but when it dissapated to a category 2 arou K>ft meyers and once made land fall I beleive it weakened it so much that the K>system already in place just pushed it around and KO'd it.. all we have up he K>is empty gas stations, empty grocery stores, motels, campgrounds, and horse K>stables full of Floridians, about a half inch of rain and the wind never made K>it over about 15-20 mph gusts.. That was a strange Hurricane.. the way it K>hugged the coastline of every landmass it went to, I presume thats why all K>their bays and beaches temporarily were drew back..

    The Florida Keys were just devastated...just like Antigua and Barbuda.
    In the latter case, I think 90% of the structures on the island were
    destroyed.

    There was a lot of good hospitality here.. a couple motels lodged people free K>as did most the campgrounds. our animal shelters are full of evacuees.. and K>there are a few shelters open in different counties up here.. I'm about 65m N K>of Atlanta and they faired a bit differently down there, Was listening to the K>radio and heard a few streets were shut down because falling debris off K>buildings.. It's weird how only a few miles can make the difference.

    There was a lot of that in Miami...a skyscraper under construction was "raining glass shards"...and, they had to close the streets.

    What was left of it turned into alabama, we only received I presume the very K>edge of it, or whatever it pushed this way.. :)

    We got some rain here yesterday...maybe 1/4 of an inch, but that was
    it. It was in the 60's here all day.

    With the cool summer (Little Rock never hit 100 degrees for an actual temperature, although it did with the heat index several times), folks
    are starting to wonder if we'll have a cold winter.

    The National Weather Service in Little Rock put out a very interesting article on that, located at:

    http://www.weather.gov/lzk/coolsummer17.htm

    I'm going to have to check with the Wooly Worms, for their
    prognostication. Punxatawney Phil is in hiberation until February. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to TONY LANGDON on Wed Sep 13 10:05:00 2017
    Tony,

    The point being each of us has our reasons for running a BBS. Today, costs TL>much lower, so we don't have to justify our rationale for running a BBS.

    Especially considering that you can have as many telnet nodes as you desire...without the additional expense of another dial-up line for a node...and folks from anywhere in the world can telnet in.

    "carding"? Female sysops were a relatively rare breed, in any case. I only TL>recall encountering one or two back then.

    That's what we termed it here. As I recall, she wasn't too bad
    looking, but she was rather heavy set. Now, had she been with a slender
    figure and in a bikini, folks would've really been "coming toward her"
    (yes, I did just go there <LOL!>). :P

    ... It usually takes weeks to prepare an impromptu speech.

    Isn't that the truth!! I'll add that to my collection. :)

    Seriously, before doing ham radio nets, I practice the preamble...and
    in some cases, have done it so much, that I've memorized it. Now, watch
    the net manager go ahead and switch it all around. :P

    Daryl

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 13 12:19:18 2017
    Re: Weather
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Wed Sep 13 2017 08:57:00

    I'm going to have to check with the Wooly Worms, for their prognostication. Punxatawney Phil is in hiberation until February. <G>

    We do the persimmon fork/shovel check here, and it's usually straight on.. its the shovel this time so it's going to be a rough winter..

    Synchronet rocks! (Keep the message on topic) :-)

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    KK4QBN BBS

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 13 16:39:43 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Wed Sep 13 2017 10:04 am

    Tim,

    He is trolling you... if y'all want to keep this thread up, please move it to K>the RELIGION area.. for the sanity of us all..

    I have now put his name in the TWIT configuration of Synchronet...so
    any further messages from him will automatically be deleted by
    Synchronet. I looked through the documentation, and discovered
    that...it's like the SPOTKILL utility for GT Power BBS software.

    So, he will never darken my message bases again. Thankfully, the
    others I've seen in DoveNet aren't as vitrolic as he is.


    thank you. see you in hell with your wife.
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  • From Mro2@VERT/BBSESINF to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 13 16:42:10 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: ANONYMOUS to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 13 2017 04:39 pm

    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Wed Sep 13 2017 10:04 am

    Tim,

    He is trolling you... if y'all want to keep this thread up, please move it to K>the RELIGION area.. for the sanity of us all..

    I have now put his name in the TWIT configuration of Synchronet...so any further messages from him will automatically be deleted by Synchronet. I looked through the documentation, and discovered that...it's like the SPOTKILL utility for GT Power BBS software.

    So, he will never darken my message bases again. Thankfully, the
    others I've seen in DoveNet aren't as vitrolic as he is.


    thank you. see you in hell with your wife.
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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Mro on Wed Sep 13 21:17:57 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Mro to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 13 2017 16:39:43

    thank you. see you in hell with your wife.

    Is'nt that stupid.. replying to someone you know has twitlisted you..

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Digital Man on Wed Sep 13 21:21:28 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Mro2 to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 13 2017 16:42:10

    thank you. see you in hell with your wife.

    Rob,

    If this is'nt blatent abuse of systems you have implemented into synchronet and dovenets "self governing" body, nothing is... Daryl put his name in the twitlist so he does THIS just to get his message across..

    can you not just SHITCAN this guy at the source?

    EVERYONE IS SICK OF HIM!

    I believe in free speech, but enough is enough already..

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Daryl Stout on Thu Sep 14 11:52:00 2017
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    Especially considering that you can have as many telnet nodes as you desire...without the additional expense of another dial-up line for a node...and folks from anywhere in the world can telnet in.

    And your BBS can either hitch a free ride on your home broadband, or be hosted cheaply on a VPS. :)

    "carding"? Female sysops were a relatively rare breed, in any case. I
    nly
    recall encountering one or two back then.

    That's what we termed it here. As I recall, she wasn't too bad
    looking, but she was rather heavy set. Now, had she been with a slender figure and in a bikini, folks would've really been "coming toward her" (yes, I did just go there <LOL!>). :P

    OK, I don't know the term.

    ... It usually takes weeks to prepare an impromptu speech.

    Isn't that the truth!! I'll add that to my collection. :)

    LOL, I have literally done an impromptu talk in the truest sense - just stand up and do it. :)

    Seriously, before doing ham radio nets, I practice the preamble...and
    in some cases, have done it so much, that I've memorized it. Now, watch the net manager go ahead and switch it all around. :P

    Hahaha :)


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to KK4QBN on Wed Sep 13 21:29:19 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: KK4QBN to Digital Man on Wed Sep 13 2017 09:21 pm

    If this is'nt blatent abuse of systems you have implemented into synchronet and dovenets "self governing" body, nothing is... Daryl put his name in the twitlist so he does THIS just to get his message across..

    can you not just SHITCAN this guy at the source?

    EVERYONE IS SICK OF HIM!

    I believe in free speech, but enough is enough already..


    are you getting the opioid itch again or something? you seem to be having a freak out.
    anyways, i'm not falling for your bait.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to all on Wed Sep 13 21:33:55 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: KK4QBN to Digital Man on Wed Sep 13 2017 09:21 pm


    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Mro2 to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 13 2017 16:42:10

    thank you. see you in hell with your wife.

    Rob,

    If this is'nt blatent abuse of systems you have implemented into synchronet and dovenets "self governing" body, nothing is... Daryl put his name in the twitlist so he does THIS just to get his message across..

    can you not just SHITCAN this guy at the source?

    EVERYONE IS SICK OF HIM!

    I believe in free speech, but enough is enough already..



    mr proper is trying to bait me into being banned, but i'm not taking the bait. it's either calculated or he's having an episode.
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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to MRO on Thu Sep 14 00:35:29 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: MRO to all on Wed Sep 13 2017 21:33:55

    mr proper is trying to bait me into being banned, but i'm not taking the bait. it's either calculated or he's having an episode.

    It's mrproper BTW.. that nick came from hours and hours of building a kernel under Slackware.. get it right.. Troll..

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  • From Roadhog@VERT/OUTWEST to KK4QBN on Wed Sep 13 23:30:56 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: KK4QBN to Digital Man on Wed Sep 13 2017 09:21 pm

    If this is'nt blatent abuse of systems you have implemented into synchronet and dovenets "self governing" body, nothing is... Daryl put his name in the twitlist so he does THIS just to get his message across..

    can you not just SHITCAN this guy at the source?

    EVERYONE IS SICK OF HIM!

    Speak for yourself and don't think you have the right to include everyone is your ignorant moronic statements, I like reading everyones opinions even yours and Dayrls.
    You two are just thin skined self rightous self absorbed idiots.

    "... Amish safe sex: painting an "X" on the cows that kick."

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Roadhog on Thu Sep 14 06:24:15 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Roadhog to KK4QBN on Wed Sep 13 2017 23:30:56

    Speak for yourself and don't think you have the right to include everyone is your ignorant moronic statements, I like reading everyones opinions even yours and Dayrls.
    You two are just thin skined self rightous self absorbed idiots.

    We're not here for your amusment.. someone who takes measures to cirumvent really the only way to filter an idiot from this message base should be dealt with. And who the hell are you to call me a self absorbed idiot? as a matter of fact who the hell are you? don't think I've ever heard of you before. and I sure don't speak here enough for anyone to form an opinion of me..

    Oh wait.. its 2017 the "I can form an opinion of anyone in a split second days" everyone has a keyboard and facebook.. So they are automatically pros..

    I would twitlist the idiot myself but I may have users who for some strange reason want to hear what he says, and It does'nt really matter anyway because he'll just come back under a different alias and make it even worse. thats more than likely why no has'nt done anything about hime.. just give the baby his pacifier and let him go..

    Go on with your opinions ass.. This is the Synchronet Discussion area.. and that message WAS on topic to Synchronet. because this idiot is driving a knife deeper into an already dying hobby. He's nothing but a LID. and anyone who "comes to his rescue" is either to stupid to configure his own BBS and has had him help in some way (which is a stupid move), or just a plain idiot.. or HIM posing as someone else.. this has been going on for years..

    So which one are you?

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to KK4QBN on Thu Sep 14 12:18:56 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: KK4QBN to Digital Man on Wed Sep 13 2017 09:21 pm

    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Mro2 to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 13 2017 16:42:10

    thank you. see you in hell with your wife.

    Rob,

    If this is'nt blatent abuse of systems you have implemented into synchronet

    How?

    and dovenets "self governing" body, nothing is... Daryl put his name in the twitlist so he does THIS just to get his message across..

    Does what?

    can you not just SHITCAN this guy at the source?

    EVERYONE IS SICK OF HIM!

    That may be true, but all the sysops have the ability to filter messaes to or from him.

    I believe in free speech, but enough is enough already..

    And you have the freedom to filter his messages.

    digital man

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Digital Man on Thu Sep 14 17:09:34 2017
    On 2017 Sep 14 12:18:56, you wrote to KK4QBN:

    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Mro2 to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 13 2017 16:42:10
    ^^^^
    [...]

    and dovenets "self governing" body, nothing is... Daryl put his name in
    the twitlist so he does THIS just to get his message across..

    Does what?

    changed his name to Mro2 (as can be seen in the above quote header) to get around daryl's twitlisting of Mro...

    )\/(ark

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to mark lewis on Thu Sep 14 17:09:17 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Thu Sep 14 2017 05:09 pm

    On 2017 Sep 14 12:18:56, you wrote to KK4QBN:

    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Mro2 to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 13 2017 16:42:10
    ^^^^
    [...]

    and dovenets "self governing" body, nothing is... Daryl put his name in
    the twitlist so he does THIS just to get his message across..

    Does what?

    changed his name to Mro2 (as can be seen in the above quote header) to get around daryl's twitlisting of Mro...

    yeah i did that. if daryl puts mro~ in twitlist it will block all the posts.
    i still will reply to him if i want, though.


    anyways, mr proper was just baiting me and i'm not taking the bait.

    sorry daryl for saying that i read hell was actually colder than heaven. such a horrible offense. the devil is laughing at my chains or whatever he said.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to mark lewis on Thu Sep 14 17:14:44 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Thu Sep 14 2017 05:09 pm

    By: Mro2 to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 13 2017 16:42:10
    ^^^^
    changed his name to Mro2 (as can be seen in the above quote header) to get around daryl's twitlisting of Mro...


    i did that as a joke btw, that was actually trolling to see if people noticed.

    i honestly do not believe daryl can figure out how to twitlist someone with synchronet that quickly.
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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Digital Man on Thu Sep 14 20:31:58 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Digital Man to KK4QBN on Thu Sep 14 2017 12:18:56

    I believe in free speech, but enough is enough already..

    And you have the freedom to filter his messages.

    Whats the use when he just logs in under a different name? that was the whole point of the message..

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to TONY LANGDON on Thu Sep 14 17:41:00 2017
    Tony,

    LOL, I have literally done an impromptu talk in the truest sense - just stan TL>up and do it. :)

    That's what I've had to do on some ham radio nets. First, I've been
    doing nets since I got into the hobby 26 years ago...so, I should know
    what I'm doing (hi hi). But, without a script, I end up "winging it",
    trying to go with the format that the net had used.

    Seriously, before doing ham radio nets, I practice the preamble...and in some cases, have done it so much, that I've memorized it. Now, watch the net manager go ahead and switch it all around. :P

    Hahaha :)

    What's worse is the vanity callsigns. Now, I can't complain too much
    about that, I have had 2 of them. The first callsign I got, N5VLZ, from
    the United States Federal Communications Commission (FCC -- they
    regulate amateur radio, etc. in the U.S. and its territories), I held
    from 1991 to 2009. Then, in mid 2009, I changed to AE5WX -- because
    Skywarn Severe Weather Operations got me interested in amateur
    radio. It still is a big part of it, with the VoIP Skywarn Hurricane
    Prep Net on Saturday...and the Southeast U.S. D-Star Weather Net on
    Sunday (both U.S. Time).

    But, back to the callsigns. One elderly ham, Russell Ballinger, for a
    long time, had the callsign KG5MR. Several hams, you hear their voice on
    the air, and you know it's them, and write down their callsign. Well,
    one night, I heard him give my call, and so I wrote down in the log
    "KG5MR, Russell, Jacksonville, Arkansas".

    The shock came when he said "This is WA5NBK. Russell. Downtown
    Jacksonville. No traffic". I went "Oh, <expeletive!>"...<scribble!>
    <scribble!> <scribble!> -- so much so, I tore a hole in the log!!

    When I met him again, I said "Darn your hide, Russell!!" :P

    Sadly, he became a Silent Key several years ago, but he was a great
    Elmer to many of the hams in central Arkansas.

    Daryl, WX1DER

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to mark lewis on Thu Sep 14 22:49:40 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: mark lewis to Digital Man on Thu Sep 14 2017 05:09 pm


    On 2017 Sep 14 12:18:56, you wrote to KK4QBN:

    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Mro2 to Daryl Stout on Wed Sep 13 2017 16:42:10
    ^^^^
    [...]

    and dovenets "self governing" body, nothing is... Daryl put his name in
    the twitlist so he does THIS just to get his message across..

    Does what?

    changed his name to Mro2 (as can be seen in the above quote header) to get around daryl's twitlisting of Mro...

    Ah, I didn't notice that. Well there's always away around. <shrug>

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to KK4QBN on Thu Sep 14 22:52:57 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: KK4QBN to Digital Man on Thu Sep 14 2017 08:31 pm

    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Digital Man to KK4QBN on Thu Sep 14 2017 12:18:56

    I believe in free speech, but enough is enough already..

    And you have the freedom to filter his messages.

    Whats the use when he just logs in under a different name? that was the whole point of the message..

    Yup. And we've had much more troublesome characters in the past do just that and elaborate counter-measures were developed to filter based on content rather than author/poster name, but even those filters could be circumvented. Nothing is 100%.

    digital man

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Digital Man on Fri Sep 15 07:19:18 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Digital Man to KK4QBN on Thu Sep 14 2017 22:52:57

    Yup. And we've had much more troublesome characters in the past do just that and elaborate counter-measures were developed to filter based on content rather than author/poster name, but even those filters could be circumvented. Nothing is 100%.

    Yeah, right.. guess the best thing to do is just stop feeding him..

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to DIGITAL MAN on Fri Sep 15 08:55:00 2017
    changed his name to Mro2 (as can be seen in the above quote header) to ge around daryl's twitlisting of Mro...

    Ah, I didn't notice that. Well there's always away around. <shrug>

    I did notice it...and that's in the twit list as well. And, if I knew
    his IP, I'd block it as well.

    As one user noted, "he was trolling me". Since I use QWK Mail to
    read my messages, I can view the headers beforehand, so when I saw his
    attempt to get around it, I deleted the message without even looking at
    it, and put that in the twit list as well.

    I realize I'm not the administrator of Dove-Net; but for the sake of argument, had I been the administrator of a message network, he would
    get banned in a hurry...and I would advise all confirmed Visiting Sysops
    of his details.

    IMO, he refuses to be courteous to fellow BBS users. His profane
    attacks also shows to me that he doesn't believe in "if you would not
    say it to your mother, wife, daughter, sister, pastor, etc. -- don't say
    it at all"...although I've heard of some females whose "vocabulary"
    would make a sailor blush!!. Had I been such a "potty mouth" to my
    parents as the way he is in the echoes, I wouldn't be here today!!

    My late wife could tell someone off, and not have to use one single
    word of profanity in doing so. I have very little respect for someone
    who has a "potty mouth"...which seems to be the norm in today's world.
    There's a time and place for everything, and a public BBS echo is not
    the place for it, IMO...unless it's a FLAME echo, where nothing is
    sacred, and all bets are off.

    So many think that for comedy, it has to equate to "the raunchier, the better"...and they feel that a "G" rating for a move is a "death
    sentence". Truth be told, you do NOT have to be dirty or vulgar to be funny...the late Red Skelton, Bob Hope, Jack Benny, Groucho Marx, George
    Burns and Gracie Allen, and more, all proved that to be such. Some of
    the "church bulletin bloopers" I've seen, are an absolute scream!!

    To me, a little suggestiveness and innuendo is OK -- there was a ton
    of that in the movie "What's Up, Doc??" with Barbara Streisand and Ryan
    O'Neil (that shows how old I am!!)...but not one single word of
    profanity. Many years ago, I made the rule on my BBS that "foul
    language" (especially repetitive) was a definite "no-no".

    Now, I can understand typos at the keyboard with "fat finger
    syndrome". The perfect example is that the letters U, I, and O, are next
    to each other on the keyboard. I've had many times where I wanted to
    type either SHUT, or SHOT...but I'll give you 3 guesses what I type
    instead, and the first two don't count. <G> However, without "fat
    fingers", how do you pick up the food or silverware?? <BG>.

    One can "agree to disagree"...the world would be boring if everyone
    and everything was the same. However, he takes it into overdrive.

    Daryl

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to KK4QBN on Fri Sep 15 09:24:10 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: KK4QBN to Digital Man on Thu Sep 14 2017 08:31 pm

    Whats the use when he just logs in under a different name? that was the whole point of the message..

    I believe Mro said you can put wildcards in your name filter, so for example Mro~ would filter any name starting with Mro (including Mro2 etc.)

    Nightfox

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  • From Roadhog@VERT/OUTWEST to KK4QBN on Fri Sep 15 11:11:09 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: KK4QBN to Digital Man on Thu Sep 14 2017 08:31 pm

    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Digital Man to KK4QBN on Thu Sep 14 2017 12:18:56

    I believe in free speech, but enough is enough already..

    And you have the freedom to filter his messages.

    Whats the use when he just logs in under a different name? that was the whole point of the message..


    I don't have a BBS but I am wondering if there is a way to twit you out on my netrunner I will have to research that because I hate reading all your whaaaa whaaaaa self rightous BS.
    What ever happenend to your enter key? you know if you don't like a post you can just hit enter and go to the next message, gawd what a moron.

    "... If you don't like my Driving then get off the SIDEWALK!"

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  • From Captain Kiwi@VERT/BLACKSUN to Daryl Stout on Fri Sep 15 12:56:24 2017
    Re: Why I Run A BBS
    By: Daryl Stout to VK3JED on Tue Sep 12 2017 11:33:00

    I run my systems for one user - me. If anyone else likes what I'm doing a V>wants to stick around, great, but if they don't, that's fine by me too.

    This should be the only reason anyone needs to run a board. I have 3 or 4 regular users and a few that come back every couple of weeks. I also have some that show up once and never call again. I enjoy having users, but my reasoning for running a board is because I've wanted to do so since I was a young teenager.

    I have found that running my board has helped me connect with some great
    people in the Arkansas area. People that I've never thought I would have any kind of connection and I have "bonded" over tales of the "good ol' days" of LORD, Trade Wars, getting the latest shareware, etc.

    When it comes to asking for users personal info; As the SysOp of the board, Daryl has every right to ask for that information. My board however, you're free to do whatever you want (within reason) and may do so anonymously.
    The feedback form is available and users are welcome to send me their information, but it's not required to get full user access.

    Captain Kiwi

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  • From Captain Kiwi@VERT/BLACKSUN to Daryl Stout on Fri Sep 15 13:01:24 2017
    Re: Sex And The Kids
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Tue Sep 12 2017 11:32:00

    when I walked on him one day with those pics on the browser, he told me he K>searching for something for minecraft and it came up.. I believe him.. so K>him down and explained to him what his father should have.

    My girlfriends daughter had the same thing happen while looking up the same thing.

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  • From Captain Kiwi@VERT/BLACKSUN to All on Fri Sep 15 13:40:22 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Digital Man to mark lewis on Thu Sep 14 2017 22:49:40

    and dovenets "self governing" body, nothing is... Daryl put his name
    the twitlist so he does THIS just to get his message across..

    Does what?

    changed his name to Mro2 (as can be seen in the above quote header) to ge around daryl's twitlisting of Mro...

    Ah, I didn't notice that. Well there's always away around. <shrug>

    The comments left by Mro are often offensive. But what is a member of a message board going to do hundred or thousands of miles away? Remember the old saying "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me?" I think that applies here. If Mro wants to be an asshole, that is his right. If you don't want to see them, filter his messages as needed (including alternate names if he uses them.) The Internet is not a friendly place and we should expect people to be abbrasive much of the time (look at a majority of Facebook as a great example of this.) If someone says something you don't like on a message board just remember these words of wisdom from The Big Lebowski "I can't be worried about that shit. Fuck it man, life goes on." Remember that and you'll be in a much better place :)

    Captain Kiwi

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Nightfox on Fri Sep 15 14:21:14 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Fri Sep 15 2017 09:24:10

    Whats the use when he just logs in under a different name? that was
    the whole point of the message..

    I believe Mro said you can put wildcards in your name filter, so for example Mro~ would filter any name starting with Mro (including Mro2 etc.)

    For him to go that far, he would just go even further to keep up his.. whatever you want to call it... He just wants attention.. and I'll deny him that..

    stuff like this really don't bother me anymore.. I just don't like others being bullied.. especially ones who are not around to stick up for themselves.

    I realize some people have to do this to make themselves feel superior because they have an inferiority complex, I used to allow people to bully me all the time, but I've grown to either not give a crap in most situations now, or to fight back if needed..

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Roadhog on Fri Sep 15 14:34:33 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Roadhog to KK4QBN on Fri Sep 15 2017 11:11:09

    I don't have a BBS but I am wondering if there is a way to twit you out on my netrunner I will have to research that because I hate reading all your whaaaa whaaaaa self rightous BS.
    What ever happenend to your enter key? you know if you don't like a post you can just hit enter and go to the next message, gawd what a moron.

    You can also do the same.. or tell your sysop to twitlist me.. what woodpile did you crawl out of anyway? I don't know you, nor do I give a crap.

    How smart you sound calling others morons when you don't know how to block others messages.. or just skip them.. The messages between me and one other person is just that.. between us.. it may be a public forum, but you have no obligation whatsoever to reply or read it if it bothers you that much you triggered little twit.. I have a feeling if you are not MRO in the flesh you are one of his little cronies that he's "Helped" to get online.. better check your computer for some bitcoin miners or other spyware running in the background.

    You know, its funny that the BBS that you do not have you happen to be user #3, user slot created around the same time the sysop and guest account were created.. That reinfoces my point that you are just either troll #1, or one of his cronies.. because I've never had any prior issue with a "Roadhog" however.. Troll #1 has been giving the BBS scene trouble for close to 12 years that I myself can account for..

    have fun with all that..

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Daryl Stout on Fri Sep 15 12:47:58 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Daryl Stout to DIGITAL MAN on Fri Sep 15 2017 08:55 am

    I did notice it...and that's in the twit list as well. And, if I knew
    his IP, I'd block it as well.

    You could probably do a whois or similar command with this BBS domain and find his IP that way (assuming he usually connects from home, where his external-facing IP address would be the same IP address that his BBS is hosted on). Even just pinging his BBS domain would probably come back with an IP address.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to KK4QBN on Fri Sep 15 12:50:34 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Fri Sep 15 2017 02:21 pm

    stuff like this really don't bother me anymore.. I just don't like others being bullied.. especially ones who are not around to stick up for themselves.

    I realize some people have to do this to make themselves feel superior because they have an inferiority complex, I used to allow people to bully me all the time, but I've grown to either not give a crap in most situations now, or to fight back if needed..

    Yeah, I sometimes wonder that about trolls and bullies, whether they have an inferiority complex. I've decided not to let that bother me so much, because I know there are plenty more decent people in the world.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Roadhog on Fri Sep 15 12:53:20 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Roadhog to KK4QBN on Fri Sep 15 2017 11:11 am

    I don't have a BBS but I am wondering if there is a way to twit you out on my netrunner I will have to research that because I hate reading all your whaaaa whaaaaa self rightous BS.
    What ever happenend to your enter key? you know if you don't like a post you can just hit enter and go to the next message, gawd what a moron.

    The same goes with you, you can simply go on to the next message rather than calling someone a moron. Responses like this contribute to the troll problem on a message network.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Captain Kiwi on Fri Sep 15 12:55:22 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Captain Kiwi to All on Fri Sep 15 2017 01:40 pm

    someone says something you don't like on a message board just remember these words of wisdom from The Big Lebowski "I can't be worried about that shit. Fuck it man, life goes on." Remember that and you'll be in a much better place :)

    Yep. Ain't nobody got time for that.

    Nightfox

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Captain Kiwi on Fri Sep 15 18:22:51 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Captain Kiwi to All on Fri Sep 15 2017 13:40:22

    Ah, I didn't notice that. Well there's always away around. <shrug>

    The comments left by Mro are often offensive. But what is a member of a message board going to do hundred or thousands of miles away? Remember the old saying "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me?" I think that applies here. If Mro wants to be an asshole, that is his right. If you don't want to see them, filter his messages as needed (including alternate names if he uses them.) The Internet is not a friendly place and we should expect people to be abbrasive much of the time (look at a majority of Facebook as a great example of this.) If someone says something you don't like on a message board just remember these words of wisdom from The Big Lebowski "I can't be worried about that shit. Fuck it man, life goes on." Remember that and you'll be in a much better place :)

    Dud, this is been happening close to 15 years.. there is a point where a line needs to be drawn.. I know I've said stuff to piss on peoples parades also, but I do not Bully people who cannot defend themselves, not do I employee countermesures to get around twitlists put in place to block people like him. he has been doing this forever.. he HAS run people away from the BBS scene.

    The BBS community *should* have some small sense of security when it comes to stuff like this.. and one would think 15 years of this crap would be enough to have Rob actually do something about. all he is doing is tarnishing the BBS hobby and the SBBS and DOVENET name and brand because Rob lets him just keep doing it. it is a concensus that at least 85-90% of DoveNet users cannot stand his antics when he goes on his tirades.. he's halfway decent when he's taken his meds or whatever.. but he is nothing but a bully.. to speak of someones dead wife, to try to trigger a recovering addict into relapse.. this is nothing but pure evil..

    He has no business on this Net.. the greater majority of his messages are nothing but potshots at other users..

    He cares of nothing but stroking his Ego.. I've tried stopping this thread now because it is filling what is supposed to be the Sunchronet Discussion board with off topic crap, but people just coming back and re-hashing it.. I have not and will not reply to MRO (or any of his aliases) anymore, But I guarantee he will post at least 4-5 more messages trying to get me angry. Because HE has to have the last word. because HE is a narcisistic bully who's only lot in life is to troll and bully people on BBS networks.. sad life indeed.

    Take care Captain.

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Nightfox on Fri Sep 15 18:24:29 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Nightfox to Daryl Stout on Fri Sep 15 2017 12:47:58

    I did notice it...and that's in the twit list as well. And, if I
    knew his IP, I'd block it as well.

    You could probably do a whois or similar command with this BBS domain and find his IP that way (assuming he usually connects from home, where his external-facing IP address would be the same IP address that his BBS is hosted on). Even just pinging his BBS domain would probably come back with an IP address.

    He'll more than likely need to ad the IP of outwest BBS also, because he is posting as Roadhog (90% guarantee) also.

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Nightfox on Fri Sep 15 18:44:57 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Fri Sep 15 2017 12:50:34

    I realize some people have to do this to make themselves feel
    superior because they have an inferiority complex, I used to allow
    people to bully me all the time, but I've grown to either not give a
    crap in most situations now, or to fight back if needed..

    Yeah, I sometimes wonder that about trolls and bullies, whether they have an inferiority complex. I've decided not to let that bother me so much, because I know there are plenty more decent people in the world.

    Yes sir, and there are still plenty here on DoveNet, and Othernets and in the Gaming leagues.. and these hurricanes have brought some very brave acts, and acts of compassion that I thought I would never see again, So I still have hope for the world..

    Most people hearts are still in the right place, they have just been so mislead by media and other outside influences, that their hearts have been hardened.

    There are the few out there who are just plain sadistic bullies, who were either abused as children (mainly mentally). Or got to their sad state of mind some other way. and its sad to say, most will NEVER change. because they have become accustom to the rush of endorphines and other neural pathways firing as the result of what they do. It's like (or worse) than any drug you can take.

    I'm now a part time drug abuse counselor (I do it to give back to the community that has saved my life) so I do it free for are local judicial court circuit Drug Court, and also a halfway house. and though I cannot speak of specifics a lot of cases come into the halfway house coming out of prison have gained their bullying tatics as a coping mechanism to cover up for some (mostly mental) issues they suffered at a younger age, and those also drove 65% or more to their drug addictions.

    The Addicts though are some of the most good hearted people you could meet once they reach rock bottom and pick themselves back up. *most* of them would'nt hurt a fly and go out of their way to help other addicts, and even become counselors like I did. Take Trey Anistasio from the band Phish. he went to drug court (diversion program) got clean, and now is one of the hardest working advocates of these programs.

    Sad to say that a lot of the people with the inferiorioty complexes, bullys, etc. tend to relapse very quickly because whatever mental anguish set it off in the first place is buried deep into their psyche, and many end up back in prison on parol violation from mainly domestic situations..

    I try to keep my patience with people like this, but in our group meetings this is how we treat each other, when one catches the other slipping we call them out on their crap, and do not leave until the issues is resolved.

    This is more then likely why I get so defensive.

    Please forgive me if my messages offend anyone.. I'm just trying to help.

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Nightfox on Fri Sep 15 18:46:00 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Nightfox to Captain Kiwi on Fri Sep 15 2017 12:55:22

    someone says something you don't like on a message board just
    remember these words of wisdom from The Big Lebowski "I can't be
    worried about that shit. Fuck it man, life goes on." Remember that
    and you'll be in a much better place :)

    Yep. Ain't nobody got time for that.

    The dude abides.

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    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to KK4QBN on Fri Sep 15 17:14:29 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Fri Sep 15 2017 06:44 pm

    There are the few out there who are just plain sadistic bullies, who were either abused as children (mainly mentally). Or got to their sad state of mind some other way. and its sad to say, most will NEVER change. because

    That's one of those situations where I feel bad for them, but at the same time, I don't like what they do. And I'm not sure if they're genuinely bad people or not, since they're probably acting that way due to how the ywere treated as children.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Daryl Stout on Fri Sep 15 19:44:43 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Daryl Stout to DIGITAL MAN on Fri Sep 15 2017 08:55 am

    changed his name to Mro2 (as can be seen in the above quote header) to ge around daryl's twitlisting of Mro...

    Ah, I didn't notice that. Well there's always away around. <shrug>

    I did notice it...and that's in the twit list as well. And, if I knew
    his IP, I'd block it as well.

    you dont need to block my ip because i'd never visit your system.

    As one user noted, "he was trolling me". Since I use QWK Mail to

    nah i wasnt trolling you. if i was trolling you i'd do a good job of it. i was just telling you how to configure peerblock which you couldnt wrap your head around.

    I realize I'm not the administrator of Dove-Net; but for the sake of argument, had I been the administrator of a message network, he would
    get banned in a hurry...and I would advise all confirmed Visiting Sysops
    of his details.

    IMO, he refuses to be courteous to fellow BBS users. His profane
    attacks also shows to me that he doesn't believe in "if you would not
    say it to your mother, wife, daughter, sister, pastor, etc. -- don't say
    it at all"...although I've heard of some females whose "vocabulary"
    would make a sailor blush!!. Had I been such a "potty mouth" to my


    you are extremely melodramatic. your 12 page religious rants are a bigger attack on this network than anything.

    you press your beliefs on others and if people's beliefs dont match yours, they are scum that should be banned. big deal if i say fuck and shit.
    fuck your shit.

    My late wife could tell someone off, and not have to use one single
    word of profanity in doing so. I have very little respect for someone
    who has a "potty mouth"...which seems to be the norm in today's world. There's a time and place for everything, and a public BBS echo is not


    honestly i would not be surprised if you have some skeletons in your closet. it's always the religious nuts that are the kiddy fiddlers.

    So many think that for comedy, it has to equate to "the raunchier, the better"...and they feel that a "G" rating for a move is a "death
    sentence". Truth be told, you do NOT have to be dirty or vulgar to be funny...the late Red Skelton, Bob Hope, Jack Benny, Groucho Marx, George Burns and Gracie Allen, and more, all proved that to be such. Some of

    george carlin, mitch hedberg, bill hicks, sam kinison, richard pryor, eddie izzard, robin williams, louis ck , lenny bruce.

    i win. go back to watching matlock.

    One can "agree to disagree"...the world would be boring if everyone
    and everything was the same. However, he takes it into overdrive.

    you think everything that isnt warm milk is too much.

    anways, take some of your own advice. your rants are disruptive.
    grow a thick skin if you think i was attacking and flaming you. i've got some dirt on you that would make you go away forever but i didnt unleash it here because it wouldnt be classy.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Captain Kiwi on Fri Sep 15 19:48:16 2017
    Re: Why I Run A BBS
    By: Captain Kiwi to Daryl Stout on Fri Sep 15 2017 12:56 pm

    Re: Why I Run A BBS
    By: Daryl Stout to VK3JED on Tue Sep 12 2017 11:33:00

    I run my systems for one user - me. If anyone else likes what I'm doing a V>wants to stick around, great, but if they don't, that's fine by me too.

    This should be the only reason anyone needs to run a board. I have 3 or 4

    you couldnt be any more wrong.

    a bbs is something for the users. so you should run it for the users.
    people that run it for themselves never stick around. people that run it for the users usually have very robust enjoyable bbses.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Captain Kiwi on Fri Sep 15 19:50:42 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Captain Kiwi to All on Fri Sep 15 2017 01:40 pm

    The comments left by Mro are often offensive.

    eat my shit

    The comments left by Mro are often offensive. But what is a member of a message board going to do hundred or thousands of miles away? Remember the old saying "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me?" I think that applies here. If Mro wants to be an asshole, that is his right. If you don't want to see them, filter his messages as needed (including alternate names if he uses them.) The Internet is not a friendly


    also, wasnt daryl and asshole for posting a bookload of religious crap for that long period of time? it wasnt even in the religion echo. he has been around the block. he could have atleast stayed on topic. but he chose to have an episode and condemn me to hell for saying i read somewhere that hell is actually colder than heaven. if that was wrong, so what. spare me the 12 pages of religious trash.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Fri Sep 15 19:51:25 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Nightfox to Daryl Stout on Fri Sep 15 2017 12:47 pm

    You could probably do a whois or similar command with this BBS domain and find his IP that way (assuming he usually connects from home, where his external-facing IP address would be the same IP address that his BBS is hosted on). Even just pinging his BBS domain would probably come back with an IP address.


    it would be stupid because i dont call any bbses. and i dont run my bbs at home.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Fri Sep 15 19:52:07 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Nightfox to Roadhog on Fri Sep 15 2017 12:53 pm

    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Roadhog to KK4QBN on Fri Sep 15 2017 11:11 am

    I don't have a BBS but I am wondering if there is a way to twit you out on my netrunner I will have to research that because I hate reading all your whaaaa whaaaaa self rightous BS.
    What ever happenend to your enter key? you know if you don't like a post you can just hit enter and go to the next message, gawd what a moron.

    The same goes with you, you can simply go on to the next message rather than calling someone a moron. Responses like this contribute to the troll problem on a message network.



    you are using that troll word a lot, i dont think you know what it means. if people are just arguing that doesnt mean trolling.
    if someone is a jerk to someone, that doesnt mean trolling.
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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Roadhog on Fri Sep 15 14:19:14 2017
    On 2017 Sep 15 11:11:08, you wrote to KK4QBN:

    I don't have a BBS but I am wondering if there is a way to twit you
    out on my netrunner I will have to research that because I hate [...]


    your terminal program won't have the first idea about any twitlist... the BBS you are using, on the other hand, may offer such capability... it is a synchronet system, after all... take a look in your settings area on the BBS and see if you find an option for twits... it may be near the option to have a signature or even where you might provide some information for finger to emit is someone tries to finger you on that system...


    )\/(ark

    Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
    Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
    ... Balanced diet? Eat a vegetarian.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to mark lewis on Sat Sep 16 08:47:09 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: mark lewis to Roadhog on Fri Sep 15 2017 02:19 pm

    On 2017 Sep 15 11:11:08, you wrote to KK4QBN:

    I don't have a BBS but I am wondering if there is a way to twit you
    out on my netrunner I will have to research that because I hate [...]

    i have mr proper twilisted. i can give him a qwk or nntp feed :D

    your terminal program won't have the first idea about any twitlist... the BBS you are using, on the other hand, may offer such capability... it is a synchronet system, after all... take a look in your settings area on the BBS and see if you find an option for twits... it may be near the option to have a signature or even where you might provide some information for finger to emit is someone tries to finger you on that system...

    did they add that yet?
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  • From Roadhog@VERT/OUTWEST to KK4QBN on Sat Sep 16 10:57:27 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: KK4QBN to Roadhog on Fri Sep 15 2017 02:34 pm

    You can also do the same.. or tell your sysop to twitlist me.. what

    You know, its funny that the BBS that you do not have you happen to be user #3, user slot created around the same time the sysop and guest account were created.. That reinfoces my point that you are just either troll #1, or one of his cronies.. because I've never had any prior issue

    Not really that funny, I know the Sysop and was a tester for him when he set it up.
    Not that hard to figure out but then for you who knows.
    and no I do not know Mro, I just think it's funny that he gets under your thin skin so easily.
    Looks to me like Mro plays you like a fiddle because you get so upset so easily.

    "... Experience: a name everyone gives to his/her mistakes."

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to MRO on Sat Sep 16 14:42:33 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: MRO to mark lewis on Sat Sep 16 2017 08:47:09

    i have mr proper twilisted. i can give him a qwk or nntp feed :D

    Still so full of himself that he does'nt realize that has'nt been my handle in 15 years... and he is actually SPEAKING to him self with this message. MRO and Roadhog is the same person. the sysop of the BBS just verified that.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

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  • From Captain Kiwi@VERT/BLACKSUN to KK4QBN on Sat Sep 16 12:14:28 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Fri Sep 15 2017 18:44:57

    I'm now a part time drug abuse counselor (I do it to give back to the commun that has saved my life) so I do it free for are local judicial court circuit

    Great work on getting clean! It's not an easy thing to do. Giving back and helping out those in need is a very noble work. Thank you!! :)

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Roadhog on Sat Sep 16 13:04:26 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Roadhog to KK4QBN on Sat Sep 16 2017 10:57 am

    Looks to me like Mro plays you like a fiddle because you get so upset so easily.

    Are you suggesting that KK4QBN is to blame for Mro being an asshole to him? A bit of victim-blaming, it seems.. Rather than blame the target, I think people should just stop being assholes in the first place.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to KK4QBN on Sat Sep 16 13:08:34 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: KK4QBN to MRO on Sat Sep 16 2017 02:42 pm

    i have mr proper twilisted. i can give him a qwk or nntp feed :D

    Still so full of himself that he does'nt realize that has'nt been my handle in 15 years... and he is actually SPEAKING to him self with this message.

    I have some messages from mrproper from as recent as 2009 and 2016 (the latest being from November 22, 2016 in the Synchronet Discussion area).

    MRO and Roadhog is the same person. the sysop of the BBS just
    verified that.

    Are you sure? Mro and Roadhog have different typing styles. Mro never capitalizes his sentances, but Roadhog does, and Roadhog uses some different spacing styles in his messages.

    Nightfox

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Roadhog on Sat Sep 16 15:51:03 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Roadhog to KK4QBN on Sat Sep 16 2017 10:57:27

    Not really that funny, I know the Sysop and was a tester for him when he set it up.
    Not that hard to figure out but then for you who knows.
    and no I do not know Mro, I just think it's funny that he gets under your thin skin so easily.
    Looks to me like Mro plays you like a fiddle because you get so upset so easily.

    No, he no longer bother ME, it bothers me when he throws more death blows to a dying hobby because he cannot stop bullying new people to the platform for asking simple questions..

    Whats even worse is he speaks ill of the dead, and also does all he can to circumvent the twitlist features put in placeso he can just keep beating a dead horse..

    He stopped bothering me a LONG time ago.. I realize he has mental issues, dillusions of grandure, and an inferierority complex. I would almost feel sorry for him if he did'nt kwnow any better, or at least know where to draw the line in some cases.

    What is ticking me off is that he is pretty much pissing in the eye of the demeocratic process that has already stated for YEARS, that this network would be better off without him by MANY MANY MANY people.. But obviously the powers that be tink it would break a commandment to finally DO something about him..

    Yeah, we can twitlist him.. but then we'd end up twitlisting multiple names daily.. Because he (you) are the type of person that would do that.. Denn has already stated who (Roadhog) really is.. whats funny is that you have that pathetic of a life.. You would think one (even with server menatal retardation) would evolve mentally over a 15 year timeframe, but you only get worse.

    BTW.. mrproper was retired LONG ago.. I dunno why you think you need to call me by my old nick, maybe it makes you thin you're getting one over on me, but EVERYONE knows who I am and what my history is, I've been very upfront about that.. you on the otherhand are just de-evolving.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Captain Kiwi on Sat Sep 16 17:02:57 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Captain Kiwi to KK4QBN on Sat Sep 16 2017 12:14:28


    I'm now a part time drug abuse counselor (I do it to give back to the
    commun that has saved my life) so I do it free for are local judicial
    court circuit

    Great work on getting clean! It's not an easy thing to do. Giving back and helping out those in need is a very noble work. Thank you!! :)

    I have to say though.. its for me too.. it also helps to keep me clean and grounded.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Nightfox on Sat Sep 16 17:06:55 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Nightfox to Roadhog on Sat Sep 16 2017 13:04:26

    Looks to me like Mro plays you like a fiddle because you get so
    upset so easily.

    Are you suggesting that KK4QBN is to blame for Mro being an asshole to him? A bit of victim-blaming, it seems.. Rather than blame the target, I think people should just stop being assholes in the first place.

    Seems so simple right? well Roadhog IS MRO.. so he's not victim blaming.. he just continuing what he has been doing best for over 15 years or more.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Nightfox on Sat Sep 16 17:40:00 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Sat Sep 16 2017 13:08:34

    [1m[34mRe[0m[34m: [1m[36mOn The Twit List
    [34mBy[0m[34m: [1m[36mKK4QBN [34mto [36mMRO [34mon [36mSat Sep 16 2017
    Still so full of himself that he does'nt realize that has'nt been my
    handle in 15 years... and he is actually SPEAKING to him self with
    this message.

    I have some messages from mrproper from as recent as 2009 and 2016 (the latest being from November 22, 2016 in the Synchronet Discussion area).

    I *used to be* mrpoper in 2009. if you have any messages from that nick in 2016 it was not me.. when I started back in 2016 I started back as KK4QBN so if there is a mrproper in 2016 It was someone else using that handle.

    UNLESS I logged into vert and posted a message on there for some reason.. I still have a user account on vert as mrproper, but afaik I have'nt used it since I shut down Warzone BBS... I started back up around June or so of last year with a "North Georgia Online" or something to that extent, until he started up on me again and started making libelous claims against me stating I was still an active drug additct and a crop ton of other lies.

    I will be the first to admit that I am an opiate addict, and I ALWAYS will be. but through hard work I've been clean for close to 7 years now. The only vice I have now is smoking cigarrates. I truly have never figured out what this dudes issues with me is, other then the fact that I'm not afraid to speak my mind when he goes off on one of his temper tantrums and starts bullying people.

    Over the years I KNOW he has ran people off from the BBS scene, me being one of him because I was afraid he would draw me into relapse.. I realized I was stronger than that though.

    He has many different writing styles, and very good at social engineering to get his way. I was told by Denn (outwest) that it was him. or at least the same ip.

    For all I know it could be Denn though saying that because the writing style matches Denns more then Mro and he is wanting to hide behind a handle. It's no coincidence that the sysop account, guest account, then the roadhog account were all created the same timeframe.

    either way, I don't care. Like I told him before.. if he don't like it, he can push enter.. I'm doing the same exact thing..

    If the powers that be don't care that he continues to make Dovenet a crappy place to communicate (and now get synchronet questions answered) so be it..

    I'm better off learning for myself anyway.. I remember when one could pull 60 active systems up on the im list.. now were lucky to see 7.. thats not because the BBS scene is going away, as a matter of fact, there is a resurgances of users calling BBS'es especialy ham radio operators and many other POT line users.. there is also a resurgance of the ANSI art scene..

    but you cannot see any of that here because the infux of dramatic messages that border on the edge of lunacy. I dropped ALL dovnet areas except Synchronet Discussion and the Synchronet programming areas. and I'll be damned if he did'nt follow me into here too..

    I don't want to have to drop these areas.. they are my only lifeline to keep up with Synchronets development and newest features. But, I also don't want to have to come in reading a frigging transcript from the daily happenings of a mental insitution either..

    And it can be stopped and should be stopped. Did you know the Twitlist feature come about because arguments between myself, Angus Mcleod, and another user..
    I don't know where Angus is these days, but he would get very stubborn and bullheaded if you did'nt see something the way he did.. But he was NOTHING like this guy...

    FIN

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Sat Sep 16 16:42:35 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Nightfox to Roadhog on Sat Sep 16 2017 01:04 pm

    Looks to me like Mro plays you like a fiddle because you get so upset so easily.

    Are you suggesting that KK4QBN is to blame for Mro being an asshole to him? A bit of victim-blaming, it seems.. Rather than blame the target, I think

    i think kk4qbn IS the attacker, and if you would go back through the thread and you can see that he was either having some episode or his actions were intentional to drum up hostility and his agenda.

    i didnt want to play along so that made him even more determined.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to KK4QBN on Sat Sep 16 16:07:30 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Sat Sep 16 2017 05:40 pm

    I'm better off learning for myself anyway.. I remember when one could pull 60 active systems up on the im list.. now were lucky to see 7.. thats not

    I just had a look at the Synchronet BBS list (www.synchro.net/sbbslist.html) and it seems there are plenty more than 7 up there. And that's just mainly Synchronet BBSes - There are other online BBS lists that probably include more BBSes.

    because the BBS scene is going away, as a matter of fact, there is a resurgances of users calling BBS'es especialy ham radio operators and many other POT line users.. there is also a resurgance of the ANSI art scene..

    Yeah, there are a couple of BBS groups I follow on Facebook, and there is ANSI art posted in one or two of them regularly. It definitely seems the scene is still around.

    but you cannot see any of that here because the infux of dramatic messages that border on the edge of lunacy. I dropped ALL dovnet areas except Synchronet Discussion and the Synchronet programming areas. and I'll be damned if he did'nt follow me into here too..

    I don't want to have to drop these areas.. they are my only lifeline to keep up with Synchronets development and newest features. But, I also don't want to have to come in reading a frigging transcript from the daily happenings of a mental insitution either..

    I don't think the dramatic messages make up much of Dove-Net.. I think there is still plenty of interesting discussion on Dove-Net.

    And it can be stopped and should be stopped. Did you know the Twitlist feature come about because arguments between myself, Angus Mcleod, and another user.. I don't know where Angus is these days, but he would get very stubborn and bullheaded if you did'nt see something the way he did.. But he was NOTHING like this guy...

    I didn't realize that.. When was that? I started running Synchronet in 2007 and perhaps that happened before then?

    Nightfox

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Nightfox on Sat Sep 16 21:27:17 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Sat Sep 16 2017 16:07:30

    I'm better off learning for myself anyway.. I remember when one
    could pull 60 active systems up on the im list.. now were lucky to
    see 7.. thats not

    I just had a look at the Synchronet BBS list (www.synchro.net/sbbslist.html) and it seems there are plenty more than 7 up there. And that's just mainly Synchronet BBSes - There are other online BBS lists that probably include more BBSes.

    I was speaking of the instant message list..

    because the BBS scene is going away, as a matter of fact, there is a
    resurgances of users calling BBS'es especialy ham radio operators
    and many other POT line users.. there is also a resurgance of the
    ANSI art scene..

    Yeah, there are a couple of BBS groups I follow on Facebook, and there is ANSI art posted in one or two of them regularly. It definitely seems the scene is still around.

    If you're not following blocktronicks, you should, they have some beautiful art. Florian Ochman created some Ansis for Warzone BBS and I lost them too along with all my data, some source code for some lord IGMS i had created (very cheesy ones but hey) and I was actually running an rlogin server that operated pretty the way Marks BBSlink does now. at the time it had about 50 active systems and some very competitive gameplay.. back then I never had time to write messages besides answer peoples support messages.

    And it can be stopped and should be stopped. Did you know the
    Twitlist feature come about because arguments between myself, Angus
    Mcleod, and another user.. I don't know where Angus is these days,
    but he would get very stubborn and bullheaded if you did'nt see
    something the way he did.. But he was NOTHING like this guy...

    We would argue over some of the dumbest things, but never resort to name calling, or telling one another that we'll see their wife in hell, and it always ended up usually with someting good coming out of it.. I liked Angus.

    I didn't realize that.. When was that? I started running Synchronet in 2007 and perhaps that happened before then?

    Yeah it was before that, bit very close.. around I think 2003 or so.. If I'm not mistaken the twitlist feature was Angus Idea.. "or a way to block a user on sbbs was" I may be wrong.. it's been a while.. there was a time when DM (Rob) actualy jumped in there and told us to stfu and get over our differences.. and petty they were.. As my my always said though, it takes two to argues.. (I've seen a dude get in an argument with a powerpole before) you see it all driving a taxi :)

    It appears you came on the scene right as I shut down Warzone BBS, it was around that time when lightening hit my system and I was backing up on CD's at the time, and the backup was no good.. Plus I was right in the middle of the worse part of my active addiction (right before I hit rock bottom).

    But yeah, If I can recall correctly, the twistlist was the brainchild of Angus. maybe Rob would remember better.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Daryl Stout on Sat Sep 16 08:47:00 2017
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    That's what I've had to do on some ham radio nets. First, I've been doing nets since I got into the hobby 26 years ago...so, I should know what I'm doing (hi hi). But, without a script, I end up "winging it", trying to go with the format that the net had used.

    Yep, that's another good example, or when starting a new net and warking out how to do things. :)

    The shock came when he said "This is WA5NBK. Russell. Downtown Jacksonville. No traffic". I went "Oh, <expeletive!>"...<scribble!> <scribble!> <scribble!> -- so much so, I tore a hole in the log!!

    When I met him again, I said "Darn your hide, Russell!!" :P

    Hahahaha I'll keep that in mind <evil grin> ;) (like many hams here, I hold multiple callsigns ;) ).


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Nightfox on Sun Sep 17 08:16:00 2017
    Nightfox wrote to KK4QBN <=-

    Yeah, I sometimes wonder that about trolls and bullies, whether they
    have an inferiority complex. I've decided not to let that bother me so much, because I know there are plenty more decent people in the world.

    Yeah, I just use the twit filter between my ears, that one is _much_ harder to get around. ;) I'm here for fun, not for a fight, though I can look after myself too.


    ... Anyone can get old. All you have to do is live long enough.
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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Captain Kiwi on Sun Sep 17 08:32:00 2017
    Captain Kiwi wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

    I run my systems for one user - me. If anyone else likes what I'm doing a V>wants to stick around, great, but if they don't, that's fine by me too.

    This should be the only reason anyone needs to run a board. I have 3
    or 4 regular users and a few that come back every couple of weeks. I
    also have some that show up once and never call again. I enjoy having users, but my reasoning for running a board is because I've wanted to
    do so since I was a young teenager.

    Yeah, I have a few tyre kickers, a couple of visiting sysops and the occasional semi-regular user. All good. :)

    I have found that running my board has helped me connect with some
    great people in the Arkansas area. People that I've never thought I
    would have any kind of connection and I have "bonded" over tales of the "good ol' days" of LORD, Trade Wars, getting the latest shareware, etc.

    I've connected with good people here too, even reconnected with old friends.


    When it comes to asking for users personal info; As the SysOp of the board, Daryl has every right to ask for that information. My board however, you're free to do whatever you want (within reason) and may do
    so anonymously. The feedback form is available and users are welcome to send me their information, but it's not required to get full user
    access.

    I just like people to have an account, but ask for minimal information, and once the account is created, they have full user level access, no upgrade necessary.


    ... Those who think they know it all, often upset those of us who do.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to KK4QBN on Sat Sep 16 20:41:56 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Sat Sep 16 2017 09:27 pm

    I'm better off learning for myself anyway.. I remember when one
    could pull 60 active systems up on the im list.. now were lucky to
    see 7.. thats not

    I was speaking of the instant message list..

    Ah, the inter-BBS message list? I thought that was a pretty cool feature when I started using Synchronet. I've been wondering why there are so few BBSes on that list and how that list is generated.

    It appears you came on the scene right as I shut down Warzone BBS, it was around that time when lightening hit my system and I was backing up on CD's at the time, and the backup was no good.. Plus I was right in the middle of the worse part of my active addiction (right before I hit rock bottom).

    I ran a BBS in the 90s, but I took it down in 2000. I didn't get back into BBSing until 2007, when I saw Jason Scott's documentary "BBS: The Documentary", and I was curious how many BBSes were running online and was inspired to start a BBS again. I am a little surprised I had not heard of Synchronet before 2007, but I don't remember there being any BBSes in my area using Synchronet in the 90s..

    Nightfox

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to CAPTAIN KIWI on Sat Sep 16 21:56:00 2017
    This should be the only reason anyone needs to run a board. I have 3 or 4 CK>regular users and a few that come back every couple of weeks. I also have s CK>that show up once and never call again. I enjoy having users, but my reason CK>for running a board is because I've wanted to do so since I was a young CK>teenager.

    Those were great times years ago...I loved those face to face user and
    Sysop meetings. It was fun putting faces to names. I remember at one
    gathering at a (now former) Denny's Restaurant, one (now former) Sysop
    opened up his case, and pulled out a fancy laptop computer. All the conversation in the room STOPPED, and all eyes GRAVITATED to the
    computer!! <BG>

    When it comes to asking for users personal info; As the SysOp of the board, CK>Daryl has every right to ask for that information. My board however, you're CK>free to do whatever you want (within reason) and may do so anonymously. CK>The feedback form is available and users are welcome to send me their CK>information, but it's not required to get full user access.

    I run my BBS my way...and others run their BBS their way...and that's
    fine with me. I know my BBS is not the only one in existence...but each
    BBS is run "for the Sysop" in many cases. Plus, I had promised my late
    wife that I'd continue the BBS in her memory, if she died first...which
    is exactly what happened.

    Ironically, I met her on a BBS that the local college (the University
    Of Arkansas At Little Rock) computer science department was running. We
    were friends for 17 1/2 years, and never thought about marriage...let
    alone to each other. We hit it off in 2002, got married in 2003, but I
    lost her to a heart attack 3 weeks shy of our 4th anniversary. She may
    have been visually impaired, but she was able to find errors in
    bulletins, system operations, etc. that I missed. And, she was also a
    FIERCE competitor in the various doorgames...a great winner, but she
    sure was a sore loser!! <G>

    I do a promo for the BBS via one of the ham radio modes that I do (D-Rats)...and I've picked up several users that way. I'll soon have a
    "ham radio packet door" on the BBS for licensed ham radio operators to
    use.

    Daryl, WX1DER

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ "Ignore Previous Cookie" - Message in fortune cookie.
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to CAPTAIN KIWI on Sat Sep 16 21:13:00 2017
    Re: Sex And The Kids
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Tue Sep 12 2017 11:32:00

    when I walked on him one day with those pics on the browser, he told me K>searching for something for minecraft and it came up.. I believe him.. K>him down and explained to him what his father should have.

    My girlfriends daughter had the same thing happen while looking up the same CK>thing.

    In a word, oops. :P

    The next thing will be the dogs and cats are looking up canine and
    kitty porn -- but the animals are naturally nude, anyway. Yet, I've seen several instances where folks "dress their dogs and cats to the hilt"
    for various things (including a "wedding"). The look on the animals'
    faces are like "get this crap off of me, before I rip it to shreds!!".

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ "Mount your horses, men!!" "We're not that lonely, sir!!"
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to NIGHTFOX on Sat Sep 16 21:15:00 2017
    I did notice it...and that's in the twit list as well. And, if I knew his IP, I'd block it as well.

    You could probably do a whois or similar command with this BBS domain and fin N>his IP that way (assuming he usually connects from home, where his N>external-facing IP address would be the same IP address that his BBS is hoste N>on). Even just pinging his BBS domain would probably come back with an IP N>address.

    I'm not going to worry about it. With the deal in the twit list, none
    of the messages come through. I only use QWK Mail to process my BBS
    messages, and do NOT read messages online.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Sat Sep 16 21:42:00 2017
    Tim,

    Please forgive me if my messages offend anyone.. I'm just trying to help.

    I commend you for trying to help...it's admirable, considering what
    you've been through.

    As for the comments of bullying, etc., it's sad there are so many of
    these in the world nowadays (i.e. the school bullying, then suicides
    on Facebook).

    My parents taught me that "if you can't say something nice, don't say
    it at all"...but you're right...these "bullies" have to "have the last
    word". Plus, if I talked to my parents the way he responds in the
    majority of his messages, I wouldn't be here today!!

    Then, when you tell these people that "Life Isn't Burger King -- you
    can't always 'Have It Your Way'...they really get offended. I can say
    that, though...I worked for them nearly 40 years ago.

    Speaking of which, I absolutely *LOVE* their new Rodeo King sandwich!!
    It's like a "Double Whopper With Cheese"...but it has bacon, onion
    rings, barbeque sauce, and mayonnaise on it. I just hope this isn't a "temporary promotional item".

    I also love their 10 piece chicken nuggets. Unlike Wendy's and
    McDonald's, the burgers are "flame broiled", and not swimming in grease.

    We will now take a short pause for drooling!! <BG>

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ 3 things fail with age. Memory is 1st; forgot the other 2
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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Captain Kiwi on Sun Sep 17 12:59:00 2017
    Captain Kiwi wrote to KK4QBN <=-

    I'm now a part time drug abuse counselor (I do it to give back to the commun that has saved my life) so I do it free for are local judicial court circuit

    Great work on getting clean! It's not an easy thing to do. Giving
    back and helping out those in need is a very noble work. Thank you!!

    My hat goes off to anyone who's battled their demons and is now using that to do good. Kudos to KK4QBN. :)


    ... Come on baby light my fire...
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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Nightfox on Sun Sep 17 13:01:00 2017
    Nightfox wrote to KK4QBN <=-

    I just had a look at the Synchronet BBS list (www.synchro.net/sbbslist.html) and it seems there are plenty more than
    7 up there. And that's just mainly Synchronet BBSes - There are other online BBS lists that probably include more BBSes.

    I don't think I've got around to putting myself up there.


    ... Aha! Another "undocumented feature"!
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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Nightfox on Sun Sep 17 04:36:03 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Sat Sep 16 2017 20:41:56

    I'm better off learning for myself anyway.. I remember when one
    could pull 60 active systems up on the im list.. now were lucky to
    see 7.. thats not

    I was speaking of the instant message list..

    Ah, the inter-BBS message list? I thought that was a pretty cool feature when I started using Synchronet. I've been wondering why there are so few BBSes on that list and how that list is generated.

    I believe all system who are running the instant messenger are still polled on udp ports nightly by Robs system, a list is distrubuted and sent around to all the BBS systems. then when you use it it parses the list and probes the UDP ports for available system.. most of the time there is no one on there..

    One problem now, Is I get people send me telegrams from other BBS systems from Ecwebv4 when I'm playing a game or something, and that telegram flashes up quickly on the terminal after exiting the game, and theres no real way to know who it was or even what BBS it came from.. if you do happen to catch the rare one by the time I get to the messenger to send a telegram the people on the website of the other BBS are long gone..

    Tking I will try to find a better way to intergrate telegram options into my shell maybe as a global feature. and figure out why when they are received why they do not have a PAUSE afterwards so they can be read.

    I ran a BBS in the 90s, but I took it down in 2000. I didn't get back into BBSing until 2007, when I saw Jason Scott's documentary "BBS: The Documentary", and I was curious how many BBSes were running online and was inspired to start a BBS again. I am a little surprised I had not heard of Synchronet before 2007, but I don't remember there being any BBSes in my area using Synchronet in the 90s..

    I had a cool setup in the 90s when I was in my teens, was the local fidonet hub, we had planet connect satellite downling for fidonet and had to call chattanooga nightly for the uplink. ended up getting ISDN, so it did make the mail calls a bit cheaper. but before that I ended up having 3 lines running into the house :) This was all before the internet was available around here.. don't think it became available until 96 or so, and that was a deathblow to all the BBS systems.. I actually had a great many paying subscribers too..

    The first person to offer dialup internet here was a BBS sysop who paid to have t1 run from chattanooga to this area (around 35 miles) or so the story goes. Winstream, was Alltel at the time and they did'nt want to invest in it. but no less than 3 months after his business took off they finally did.. Now windstream sucks so bad in some areas around here that dialup is quicker than DSL because they oversell their DSLAMS. but theres no other choice.

    Yeah, Warzone BBS was active when that documentery came out.. the SBBS community was kinda so-so about it because we believe start of the art BBS systems like sbbs and the authors did'nt get enough exposure.. it seemed he always was speaking of BBS systems in the past tense as if they no longer existed.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Sun Sep 17 05:11:58 2017
    Re: Why I Run A BBS
    By: Daryl Stout to CAPTAIN KIWI on Sat Sep 16 2017 21:56:00

    Those were great times years ago...I loved those face to face user and Sysop meetings. It was fun putting faces to names. I remember at one gathering at a (now former) Denny's Restaurant, one (now former) Sysop opened up his case, and pulled out a fancy laptop computer. All the conversation in the room STOPPED, and all eyes GRAVITATED to the

    Just like hamfests, usuakky when you finally see the face behind the name, handle, callsign, or voice, it is not what you expected.. I don't know why we tend to create expectations of people appearance just by the way they type or talk.. very strange.

    I run my BBS my way...and others run their BBS their way...and that's
    fine with me. I know my BBS is not the only one in existence...but each BBS is run "for the Sysop" in many cases. Plus, I had promised my late wife that I'd continue the BBS in her memory, if she died first...which
    is exactly what happened.

    Exactly.. people should'nt be taunted for running the BBS the way they want, In my case I try to run the system to give the users what they ask for.. if I possibly can.. but I also run it for myself too.. It's a great side hobby.. especially when I get sick of HAM for a while (I'll never get sick of my RC planes but you cannot just go out and fly on a whim, it takes planning and time) so I always have the BBS to come to.. I would so much like ot find a soulmate who is into the same hobbies I am, my current girlfriend loves flying airplanes, but cannot stand amateur radio and just "dont get" the BBS.. But, It's a two way street.. she like metal detecting (strange enough) and is an adrenaline junkie. so I ride all the roller coasters and other rides my back can handle anymore.. I have to ride steel coasters, or atleast wooden ones that have had the RMC treatment so the ride is smooth.

    I'm afraid of height too, the coasters (even some of the highest) dont bother me because I know they're coming straight down.. but you'll never catch me bungee jumping or taking a dive out of a perfectly good airplane :)

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Sun Sep 17 05:19:19 2017
    Re: Sex And The Kids
    By: Daryl Stout to CAPTAIN KIWI on Sat Sep 16 2017 21:13:00

    In a word, oops. :P

    The next thing will be the dogs and cats are looking up canine and
    kitty porn -- but the animals are naturally nude, anyway. Yet, I've seen several instances where folks "dress their dogs and cats to the hilt"
    for various things (including a "wedding"). The look on the animals'
    faces are like "get this crap off of me, before I rip it to shreds!!".

    HA! yes.. reminds me of a time when I put a santa hat on my Beagle.. this beagle will let you do just about anything to it.. he is so docile and trusting.. last christmas I put a santa hat on him, and even though he left it on, he looked at me like "I hate you with a passion right now". I love that beagle to death he is suck a well mannered and docile dog.. the only time he will ever growl at me or anyone else is we will every once in a blue moon give him a large bone for a treat, and when he starts gnawing at it so much I get afraid he is going to break it into shards and get choked, or atleast regret it when he goes to poop later.. so I tell him to give it to me and he will growl.. that dog and food go hand in hand.. I've never seen a dog so obsessed with eating.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Sun Sep 17 05:56:47 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Sat Sep 16 2017 21:42:00

    As for the comments of bullying, etc., it's sad there are so many of
    these in the world nowadays (i.e. the school bullying, then suicides
    on Facebook).

    SO very true... these "keyboard warriors" are just that.. they do this behind their keyboard, but I guarantee if you were face to face with one they would'nt even look at you, they would hang their head to the ground and scurry away.

    My parents taught me that "if you can't say something nice, don't say
    it at all"...but you're right...these "bullies" have to "have the last word". Plus, if I talked to my parents the way he responds in the
    majority of his messages, I wouldn't be here today!!

    Same here.. I can tell you some very creative ways I used to get my whoopings.. but I consider them just that.. DISCIPLINE.. not beatings like everyone wants to holler now. kids calling cops and DFCS on their parents for spanking them.. what a crock. I was raised to treat others as I would want to be treated, and never speak ill of the dead or someone who is not there to defend their honor. And someone who would do that has no Idea what respect is, nor do they have a single moral fiber in their body.

    Even if ones parents did'nt raise them well, as an adult they have the power to change and do the right thing..

    Then, when you tell these people that "Life Isn't Burger King -- you
    can't always 'Have It Your Way'...they really get offended. I can say that, though...I worked for them nearly 40 years ago.

    Lol, I was the nightshift manager at burgerking a good many years ago, and just about had all my family and friends working there. the owner of that particular frachise loved it because we all worked together so well.

    Speaking of which, I absolutely *LOVE* their new Rodeo King sandwich!! It's like a "Double Whopper With Cheese"...but it has bacon, onion
    rings, barbeque sauce, and mayonnaise on it. I just hope this isn't a "temporary promotional item".

    Wow.. that sounds like you would need to take some pipe cleaners through your arteries to clean out the cholesterol after one sitting.

    I also love their 10 piece chicken nuggets. Unlike Wendy's and
    McDonald's, the burgers are "flame broiled", and not swimming in grease.

    I still cannot really eat there too much just because I worked there and eat it just about every day. same goes for any other eatery I've ever worked at..

    What I loved about working there though, even though we kept that store so clean one could eat off the floor, on the weekends it would get so busy at night that our broiler would ALWAYS catch fire at peak hours. we'd have to put it out with an extinguisher, break it down, wash it, put it back together and fire it up again. we got so good that we could break it down in less than 10 minutes with it still flaming hot.

    I would get customers who would come up and tell me thats the whole reason they come on peak hours on weekend nights is to just catch the fire show.. and watch the customers who did'nt know that it occured frequently at peak hours freak out over it and just about evacuate the store... HAHAHA some good ol times..

    You wanted it FLAME BROILED.. WELL.. It's FLAME BROILED.. just scrape the dry extinguishe powder off it.. (sad enough we would have to throw those away) I cannot stand wasting anything. I even talked the franchise owner into giving the food that passed the 15 min warmer time to homeless people. we had at least four people who worked there that would deliver it to the tent city setup on their break.. when they got back in I would extend their break and let them actually eat, or whatever they wanted to do..

    anyway.. think I've gotton way off topic here.. this no longer has anything at all to do with SBBS :)

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

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    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Tony Langdon on Sun Sep 17 05:58:29 2017
    Re: Re: On The Twit List
    By: Tony Langdon to Captain Kiwi on Sun Sep 17 2017 12:59:00

    back and helping out those in need is a very noble work. Thank
    you!!

    My hat goes off to anyone who's battled their demons and is now using that to do good. Kudos to KK4QBN. :)

    Thank you both! It still helps to keep me clean also though, so it is for me too :)

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Tony Langdon on Sun Sep 17 06:00:14 2017
    Re: Re: On The Twit List
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Sun Sep 17 2017 13:01:00

    I don't think I've got around to putting myself up there.

    Just jump into the SBL door..

    ... Aha! Another "undocumented feature"!

    in 2017? better build a wall around it!

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

    ---
    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Sun Sep 17 21:47:00 2017
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Thank you both! It still helps to keep me clean also though, so it is
    for me too :)

    True, the best way to help yourself is to help others, so that makes perfect sense. :)


    ... From this strange confusion grows a perverse communication.
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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Sun Sep 17 21:48:00 2017
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    Just jump into the SBL door..

    Yeah I did look it up at some stage, just never got round to it lol

    ... Aha! Another "undocumented feature"!

    in 2017? better build a wall around it!

    :D



    ... To err is human. To forgive is against company policy.
    --- MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Tony Langdon on Sun Sep 17 08:53:41 2017
    Re: Re: On The Twit List
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Sun Sep 17 2017 21:48:00

    Just jump into the SBL door..

    Yeah I did look it up at some stage, just never got round to it lol

    ... Aha! Another "undocumented feature"!

    in 2017? better build a wall around it!

    :D

    Send me all your BBS stats and I'll be happy to add it for you, DMs JS version of the SBL should be close to being completed. Its all going to be in one file :)

    I have aquired a free Ibook g4 (I beleive) I think its a G4.. ppc.. it has issues and I cannot get MacOS to install back onto it... I'm seriously thinking of installing ubuntu mate or something to it.. looks like it's gonna be a pita.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

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    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tony Langdon on Sun Sep 17 10:39:42 2017
    Re: Re: On The Twit List
    By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Sun Sep 17 2017 08:16 am

    Nightfox wrote to KK4QBN <=-

    Yeah, I sometimes wonder that about trolls and bullies, whether they have an inferiority complex. I've decided not to let that bother me so much, because I know there are plenty more decent people in the world.

    Yeah, I just use the twit filter between my ears, that one is _much_ harder to get around. ;) I'm here for fun, not for a fight, though I can look after myself too.



    trolls and bullies are today's buzzwords. it goes with the train of thought that people are weak and being victimized. in truth, if you look at online arguments and you will see that there is interaction from both sides and it becames to tell who is the troll and who is the victim.


    in the real world if someone is fucking with you, you turn it back on them. i've even had to do that after becoming an adult. in the workplace you cant always knock out your coworker, but there's more than one way to skin a cat.

    today online, people use the word troll just as a label for someone that they disagree with. that's incorrect. a troll is someone who says something they do not mean and tries to stir up a reaction. they sit back and laugh while people freak out.
    ---
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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Mon Sep 18 08:00:00 2017
    Send me all your BBS stats and I'll be happy to add it for you, DMs JS version of the SBL should be close to being completed. Its all going to
    be in one file :)

    Cool, thanks, though it's easier if I have direct interaction with the script, open ended recall is a slow and inefficient process for me.

    I have aquired a free Ibook g4 (I beleive) I think its a G4.. ppc.. it
    has issues and I cannot get MacOS to install back onto it... I'm
    seriously thinking of installing ubuntu mate or something to it.. looks like it's gonna be a pita.

    I had a couple of G3 Macs, just predated OS X. I installed Yellowdog Linux, but they were slow as. :(


    ... What has 4 legs and an arm? A pit bull.
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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to MRO on Mon Sep 18 08:11:00 2017
    MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    in the real world if someone is fucking with you, you turn it back on them. i've even had to do that after becoming an adult. in the
    workplace you cant always knock out your coworker, but there's more
    than one way to skin a cat.

    Summarised as "please don't feed the trolls". :)

    today online, people use the word troll just as a label for someone
    that they disagree with. that's incorrect. a troll is someone who says something they do not mean and tries to stir up a reaction. they
    sit back and laugh while people freak out.

    Thats true, the troll is deliberately stirring up trouble, not simple disagreeing.


    ... Seeing is deceiving. It's eating that's believing.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tony Langdon on Sun Sep 17 18:50:24 2017
    Re: Re: On The Twit List
    By: Tony Langdon to MRO on Mon Sep 18 2017 08:11 am

    in the real world if someone is fucking with you, you turn it back on them. i've even had to do that after becoming an adult. in the workplace you cant always knock out your coworker, but there's more than one way to skin a cat.

    Summarised as "please don't feed the trolls". :)

    no, you confront people if you have a problem with them and you fix the problem one way or another. in the end you might make a friend or atleast help someone. ---
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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Tony Langdon on Sun Sep 17 20:16:21 2017
    Re: Re: On The Twit List
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Mon Sep 18 2017 08:00:00

    Cool, thanks, though it's easier if I have direct interaction with the script, open ended recall is a slow and inefficient process for me.

    open the syncdata conference up and read how the messages are formatted and straight type one up I presume.. the sbbslist script is in CVS now, I believe it resides in the exec dir.

    --

    Tim Smith (KK4QBN)
    KK4QBN BBS

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    * Synchronet * KK4QBN - kk4qbn.synchro.net - 7064229538 - Chatsworth GA USA
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to TONY LANGDON on Sun Sep 17 22:19:00 2017
    Tony,

    Hahahaha I'll keep that in mind <evil grin> ;) (like many hams here, I hold TL>multiple callsigns ;) ).

    The thing is...with ham radio operators...our first name is our first
    name. Our last name is our callsign. We have no clue what the last name
    of fellow hams is!! <G>

    Daryl, WX1DER

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Sun Sep 17 22:24:00 2017
    Tim,

    Just like hamfests, usuakky when you finally see the face behind the name, K>handle, callsign, or voice, it is not what you expected.. I don't know why we K>tend to create expectations of people appearance just by the way they type or K>talk.. very strange.

    Exactly.

    Exactly.. people should'nt be taunted for running the BBS the way they want, K>my case I try to run the system to give the users what they ask for.. if I K>possibly can.. but I also run it for myself too.. It's a great side hobby..

    Besides the BBS and ham radio, I square dance. So, I have 3 hobbies to
    keep me busy. Now, if there are storms outside, I just shut things off,
    and go take a nap. However, it isn't for beauty's sake...I gave that up
    long ago -- and no comments from the peanut gallery!! <G>

    I'm afraid of height too, the coasters (even some of the highest) dont bother K>me because I know they're coming straight down.. but you'll never catch me K>bungee jumping or taking a dive out of a perfectly good airplane :)

    I don't even like getting on a stepstool to change the battery in the
    smoke detector.

    But, that reminds me of a cute joke...

    This young couple was wanted to be married in this church. The pastor
    said "I'll marry you, but you must not have sex until after you're
    married". The couple agreed, and said they'd be back in 3 weeks for the wedding.

    Well, a couple of days beforehand, when they returned, they sadly had
    to admit that they didn't keep their promise. The preacher asked what
    happened, and the young man confessed.

    "My wife got up on the ladder to change the light bulbs, and I was
    holding the ladder steady. But, I looked up under her dress, was bitten
    with lustful passion, and made love to her right then, and there".

    The preacher said "Well, I'm sorry...I can't marry you two".

    To which the young man replied "I can't say that I blame you. The
    folks at Home Depot weren't happy about it, either!!". <BG>

    Daryl

    ---
    þ OLX 1.53 þ A croquette is a romantic female frog.
    þ Synchronet þ The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Sun Sep 17 22:44:00 2017
    Tim,

    SO very true... these "keyboard warriors" are just that.. they do this behind K>their keyboard, but I guarantee if you were face to face with one they would' K>even look at you, they would hang their head to the ground and scurry away.

    Plus, they hide behind aliases. I operate my BBS above reproach...just
    like my ham radio station, as per "The Amateur's Code, written by the
    late Walt M. Segal, W9EEA, SK, back in 1927.

    Same here.. I can tell you some very creative ways I used to get my whoopings

    I consider myself better for the spankings I got. It didn't ruin my
    self esteem in the least.

    On the ham radio nets, I'll treat the other hams with respect...like
    "Mr. John", "Mr. Roy", "Miss Connie", "Miss Janice", etc. Because if I
    treat others with respect, they will reciprocate.

    Lol, I was the nightshift manager at burgerking a good many years ago, and ju K>about had all my family and friends working there. the owner of that particul K>frachise loved it because we all worked together so well.

    Some nights, I was the only white guy on the crew...but my fellow
    black employees were a hoot to work with. We pee the same yellow, poop
    the same brown, and bleed the same red. Not everyone of a different race
    is bad...but in every race, there's always that group of "bad apples"
    that gives the rest of the race a bad name. And those complaining about "stereotypes", need to realize that "the videos speak for themselves".

    Wow.. that sounds like you would need to take some pipe cleaners through your K>arteries to clean out the cholesterol after one sitting.

    If I really wanted that, I'd get fried beef liver and sauteed onions.
    While I can already hear the EWWWWWW!! from folks, my late grandmother
    could make up some of the best of those that I've ever eaten!!

    I still cannot really eat there too much just because I worked there and eat K>just about every day. same goes for any other eatery I've ever worked at..

    My elderly Mom and I usually go to Sonic...they serve their drinks
    with crushed ice (I love that!), and we don't have to get out of the
    car. Plus, if you go during "Happy Hour" (2pm to 4pm local time), all
    drinks are half price.

    What I loved about working there though, even though we kept that store so K>clean one could eat off the floor, on the weekends it would get so busy at K>night that our broiler would ALWAYS catch fire at peak hours. we'd have to pu K>it out with an extinguisher, break it down, wash it, put it back together and K>fire it up again. we got so good that we could break it down in less than 10 K>minutes with it still flaming hot.

    Wow. I remember having to, as "porter" put those "grease screens" from
    both the broiler and fry vat into this huge tank of lye (sodium
    hydroxide), then rinse them clean in the morning. I was working at the
    original one in Little Rock before they began serving breakfast.

    I would get customers who would come up and tell me thats the whole reason th K>come on peak hours on weekend nights is to just catch the fire show.. and wat K>the customers who did'nt know that it occured frequently at peak hours freak K>out over it and just about evacuate the store... HAHAHA some good ol times..

    I'm sure the Fire Department made frequent visits to your restaurant.


    anyway.. think I've gotton way off topic here.. this no longer has anything a K>all to do with SBBS :)

    But, as Janis Kracht notes in The FIDOGazette..."even Sysops have to
    eat". <G>

    Daryl

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Mon Sep 18 03:57:44 2017
    Re: Why I Run A BBS
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Sun Sep 17 2017 22:24:00

    Besides the BBS and ham radio, I square dance. So, I have 3 hobbies to keep me busy. Now, if there are storms outside, I just shut things off, and go take a nap. However, it isn't for beauty's sake...I gave that up long ago -- and no comments from the peanut gallery!! <G>

    You would'nt catch me doing any type of dancing.. my coordination is all sorts of messed up and I would end up stomping everyones feet and then end up barfing on them from vertigo. BUt if there is a storm outside, and I can be I'm usually out in it, looking at the awesome power of it, watching the cloud formations, etc.. I always get an energized feeling out in storms.. probably all the positivly charged ions floating around.. makes the hairs on my arms stand up as if I was holding a static charged balloon over my arm.


    <SNIP>

    The preacher said "Well, I'm sorry...I can't marry you two".

    To which the young man replied "I can't say that I blame you. The

    Lol.. that was a good one, dunno why my editor cut the last of your sentence off, it usually don't do that, but it got the point across..

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Daryl Stout on Mon Sep 18 04:14:50 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Daryl Stout to KK4QBN on Sun Sep 17 2017 22:44:00

    reason th come on peak hours on weekend nights is to just catch the
    fire show.. and wat the customers who did'nt know that it occured
    frequently at peak hours freak out over it and just about evacuate the
    store... HAHAHA some good ol times..

    I'm sure the Fire Department made frequent visits to your restaurant.

    No actually they did'nt.. it happened at peak hours from thursay - saturday, and we always put it put fairly quickly, plus the broiler had the large fire hood over it anyway with exhaust and a fire suppresant system that actually never activated (kinda made me wonder if it even worked) must have needed a certain amount of heat to turn it on, it would use C02 and baking soda just as our extinguisers did.. we did have to get our 50 pound fire extinguiser refilled on a weekly basis though.. never had to worry about it failing inspection.. man that store stayed busy.. and he had 2 in Dalton, now there is a 3rd less than 15 miles away in Chatswort..

    Thats like Zaxbys.. there are 4 in Dalton all within 3-5 LOS miles, and one in chatsworth around 10 miles away from them.

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to MRO on Mon Sep 18 19:36:00 2017
    MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    no, you confront people if you have a problem with them and you fix the problem one way or another. in the end you might make a friend or
    atleast help someone.

    In the real world, I often use humour as a tool for that. Harder to do online, where humour can be more easily misinterpreted. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Mon Sep 18 19:50:00 2017
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    open the syncdata conference up and read how the messages are formatted and straight type one up I presume.. the sbbslist script is in CVS now,
    I believe it resides in the exec dir.

    I have that conference in my QWK packets, but wasn't sure what was going on there.


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Daryl Stout on Mon Sep 18 19:53:00 2017
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    The thing is...with ham radio operators...our first name is our first name. Our last name is our callsign. We have no clue what the last name
    of fellow hams is!! <G>

    Haha yep. ;)


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Daryl Stout on Mon Sep 18 20:22:00 2017
    Daryl Stout wrote to KK4QBN <=-

    Besides the BBS and ham radio, I square dance. So, I have 3 hobbies
    to keep me busy. Now, if there are storms outside, I just shut things

    Bit like me, with my sport as my "other hobby". :)

    off, and go take a nap. However, it isn't for beauty's sake...I gave
    that up long ago -- and no comments from the peanut gallery!! <G>

    Hahaha :D

    I'm afraid of height too, the coasters (even some of the highest) dont
    other
    me because I know they're coming straight down.. but you'll never catch me
    bungee jumping or taking a dive out of a perfectly good airplane :)

    I don't even like getting on a stepstool to change the battery in the smoke detector.

    Haha, I race up 20 foot ladders for fun. :D


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Mon Sep 18 20:28:00 2017
    KK4QBN wrote to Daryl Stout <=-

    You would'nt catch me doing any type of dancing.. my coordination is
    all sorts of messed up and I would end up stomping everyones feet and

    I can do slower forms like ballroom dancing but faster ones aren't so good, because my conscious processing is quite slow (a major source of my coordination issues).

    then end up barfing on them from vertigo. BUt if there is a storm outside, and I can be I'm usually out in it, looking at the awesome
    power of it, watching the cloud formations, etc.. I always get an energized feeling out in storms.. probably all the positivly charged
    ions floating around.. makes the hairs on my arms stand up as if I was holding a static charged balloon over my arm.

    Hmm, trying to get zapped? ;)


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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Tony Langdon on Mon Sep 18 08:20:21 2017
    Re: Re: On The Twit List
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Mon Sep 18 2017 19:50:00

    open the syncdata conference up and read how the messages are
    formatted and straight type one up I presume.. the sbbslist script
    is in CVS now, I believe it resides in the exec dir.

    I have that conference in my QWK packets, but wasn't sure what was going on there.

    yep, thats how SBL and the match makr data is passed.. don't know if anything else flows through there anymore.. I don't know for sure but think SMM is now obsolete also..

    too many grinder apps, etc out for a BBS matcmaker app to be of any relevence :)

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Tony Langdon on Mon Sep 18 08:27:53 2017
    Re: Re: Why I Run A BBS
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Mon Sep 18 2017 20:28:00

    power of it, watching the cloud formations, etc.. I always get an
    energized feeling out in storms.. probably all the positivly charged
    ions floating around.. makes the hairs on my arms stand up as if I
    was holding a static charged balloon over my arm.

    Hmm, trying to get zapped? ;)

    Well.. not really.. when the lightening gets close enough I do go inside.. after a while you lean how it all works and where it is and will be..

    the only thing that scares me with storms is wind.. especially straight line.. theres not predecting those.

    --

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to KK4QBN on Mon Sep 18 09:35:11 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Sun Sep 17 2017 04:36 am

    Ah, the inter-BBS message list? I thought that was a pretty cool
    feature when I started using Synchronet. I've been wondering why
    there are so few BBSes on that list and how that list is generated.

    I believe all system who are running the instant messenger are still polled on udp ports nightly by Robs system, a list is distrubuted and sent around to all the BBS systems. then when you use it it parses the list and probes the UDP ports for available system.. most of the time there is no one on there..

    What instant messenger do you have to run? I don't recall reading about that. I thought the Synchronet instant messenger ran over SMTP or something.. And I know a lot of ISPs block port 25 (the incoming SMTP port), and that can be an issue. Unless I'm thinking of something else..

    I had a cool setup in the 90s when I was in my teens, was the local fidonet hub, we had planet connect satellite downling for fidonet and had to call chattanooga nightly for the uplink. ended up getting ISDN, so it did make the mail calls a bit cheaper. but before that I ended up having 3 lines running into the house :) This was all before the internet was available around here.. don't think it became available until 96 or so, and that was a deathblow to all the BBS systems.. I actually had a great many paying subscribers too..

    That sounds pretty cool. I never had a big BBS setup, just one line, and my BBS was free (I got plenty of callers but never really felt like I could justify charging a subscription for it). I eventually did set up DESQView so I could try running a separate local node so I could log in locally while someone was on my BBS though, and it was cool to at least learn how a multi-node BBS setup worked in DOS, even though I only had one BBS phone line.

    The internet did seem like a death blow to BBSes, which was the main reason I took my original BBS down in 2000. It wasn't getting many callers anymore, and at the time I figured probably nobody would want to call a BBS anymore now that the internet was widely available. I had heard of telnet BBSes, but for a while I didn't think anyone would want to use a telnet BBS when they have internet access. But later (2007) I found that telnet BBSes still existed and people do call them, so I decided to start running a BBS again. It might not be quite the same as it used to be, but my BBS still gets callers and I enjoy running it.

    Nightfox

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  • From KK4QBN@VERT/KK4QBN to Nightfox on Mon Sep 18 14:04:25 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Mon Sep 18 2017 09:35:11

    That sounds pretty cool. I never had a big BBS setup, just one line, and my BBS was free (I got plenty of callers but never really felt like I could justify charging a subscription for it). I eventually did set up DESQView so I could try running a separate local node so I could log in locally while someone was on my BBS though, and it was cool to at least learn how a multi-node BBS setup worked in DOS, even though I only had one BBS phone line.

    I feel the same, I had regular accounts that game 30 minutes daily free, with certial perks.

    There were actually 3 different levels with the highest being I believe 7.50 a month for commercial users who advertised on our local bulletin areas, and also had access to everything I offered, and a power user lever at 5 bucks a month that had access to everything but could not use it commercialy.. it pretty much just paid the bills and paid for upgrades, etc.. never was really a business for me, always a hobby.. we did get into running the webmail servers for osborne internet and run a few commercial websites for a while after the internet killed the bbs scene. made more money off selling the domain names.

    The internet did seem like a death blow to BBSes, which was the main reason I took my original BBS down in 2000. It wasn't getting many callers anymore, and at the time I figured probably nobody would want to call a BBS anymore now that the internet was widely available. I had heard of telnet BBSes, but for a while I didn't think anyone would want to use a telnet BBS when they have internet access. But later (2007) I found that telnet BBSes still existed and people do call them, so I decided to start running a BBS again. It might not be quite the same as it used to be, but

    Yeah, I had a bit of a hiatus from the BBS scene before putting one back up somewhere around early 2002 after 911 and lasted another 7 years or so.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Mon Sep 18 14:50:49 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: Nightfox to KK4QBN on Mon Sep 18 2017 09:35 am

    Re: On The Twit List
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Sun Sep 17 2017 04:36 am

    Ah, the inter-BBS message list? I thought that was a pretty cool
    feature when I started using Synchronet. I've been wondering why
    there are so few BBSes on that list and how that list is generated.

    I believe all system who are running the instant messenger are still polled on udp ports nightly by Robs system, a list is distrubuted and sent around to all the BBS systems. then when you use it it parses the list and probes the UDP ports for available system.. most of the time there is no one on there..

    What instant messenger do you have to run? I don't recall reading about that. I thought the Synchronet instant messenger ran over SMTP or something.. And I know a lot of ISPs block port 25 (the incoming SMTP port), and that can be an issue. Unless I'm thinking of something else..

    The Synchronet SMTP server still supports instant-messages / telegrams, but the inter-bbs instant messaging system now uses MSP (message sending protocol) instead, which is not a widely-blocked port/protocol.

    The inter-bbs instant messaging system used to use UDP-Finger for querying who's on each system, but now it uses the SYSTAT/Active User protocol (also UDP) instead.

    What's even more confusing is that the process that creating the nightly sbbsimsg.lst file on Vertrauen verified instant-message capable systems by checking if they supported SMTP and UDP-Finger (rather than MSP/SYSTAT) for a long time. So a system had to support both the old protocols and the "new" protocols in order to be listed in sbbsimsg.lst. That should be fixed now, but some lingering Finger/SMTP support remains (e.g. in exec/sbbsimsg.js) and that still needs cleaning up.

    digital man

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Mon Sep 18 18:54:00 2017
    Tim,

    You would'nt catch me doing any type of dancing.. my coordination is all sort K>of messed up and I would end up stomping everyones feet and then end up barfi K>on them from vertigo. BUt if there is a storm outside, and I can be I'm K>usually out in it, looking at the awesome power of it, watching the cloud K>formations, etc.. I always get an energized feeling out in storms.. probably K>all the positivly charged ions floating around.. makes the hairs on my arms K>stand up as if I was holding a static charged balloon over my arm.

    When I first got into square dancing, I thought it was like what I did
    in elementary school 50 years ago. But, when all these women starting
    hugging me (known as "giving yellowrocks"), I thought "What have I
    gotten myself into??!!". After graduation, it was like "Next, please"!!


    Ironically, I know several "dancing hams". We'd meet at the National
    Square Dance Convention (NSDC)...usually the same time as Field Day Weekend...and we'd pick a simplex frequency...to discuss where to dance,
    eat, shop, sightsee, etc. But, I was glad I had it when I went to the
    1997 NSDC in Orlando. The last night of the convention, the security
    guard at my hotel assaulted our shuttle bus driver, and I used ham radio
    to call for help, and save his life. When told such, I replied "This is
    what ham radio operators prepare for -- Emergency Communications".

    Lol.. that was a good one, dunno why my editor cut the last of your sentence K>off, it usually don't do that, but it got the point across..

    The joke was clean, and you didn't see the punchline coming. <G>

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to TONY LANGDON on Mon Sep 18 18:57:00 2017
    Tony,

    I don't even like getting on a stepstool to change the battery in the smoke detector.

    Haha, I race up 20 foot ladders for fun. :D

    Braggert. <G>

    ... Beam a large pepperoni pizza to these coordinates.

    I'd rather have ground beef, extra chese, and sweet onion. :)

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Mon Sep 18 19:08:00 2017
    Tim,

    No actually they did'nt.. it happened at peak hours from thursay - saturday, K>and we always put it put fairly quickly, plus the broiler had the large fire K>hood over it anyway with exhaust and a fire suppresant system that actually K>never activated (kinda made me wonder if it even worked) must have needed a K>certain amount of heat to turn it on, it would use C02 and baking soda just a K>our extinguisers did.. we did have to get our 50 pound fire extinguiser K>refilled on a weekly basis though.. never had to worry about it failing K>inspection.. man that store stayed busy.. and he had 2 in Dalton, now there i K>a 3rd less than 15 miles away in Chatswort..

    In southwest Little Rock, there's a "Metropolitan Fire Extinguisher
    Company", and they stay pretty busy. You always have to be sure that the extinguisher is ready.

    I'm reminded of a bizarre cartoon I saw on Facebook. This guy was in
    an "adult store" (sex videos, supplies, etc.) -- and he wanted "to
    purchase the large red dildo on the wall". He was sternly told "That is
    not for sale. That's our Fire extinguisher. You'll have to find
    something else"!! <BG>

    Thats like Zaxbys.. there are 4 in Dalton all within 3-5 LOS miles, and one i K>chatsworth around 10 miles away from them.

    Not sure if there's one of those in the Little Rock area or not.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Mon Sep 18 19:16:00 2017
    Tim,

    Well.. not really.. when the lightening gets close enough I do go inside.. K>after a while you lean how it all works and where it is and will be..

    I originally was going to name my system "The Wall Cloud BBS"...but
    two of my first users...a mother and her son...had a hand in the start
    of it. She suggested the name, and he provided the opening ANSI
    lightning bolts...which I still use today.

    the only thing that scares me with storms is wind.. especially straight line. K>theres not predecting those.

    I've been under 2 tornadic funnel clouds...within a mile of an F-1 and
    an F-4 tornado...am a 2 time lightning strike survivor (indirect...but I
    still got the shock), and in swirling floodwaters. So, I get paranoid
    during threats of severe weather.

    As for the lightning strike, I carry no electrical charge, and can be
    handled safely. <G>

    One Sysop had his computer plugged in when he took a direct hit, and
    the monitor literally melted!!

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KK4QBN on Mon Sep 18 19:19:00 2017
    Tim,

    yep, thats how SBL and the match makr data is passed.. don't know if anything K>else flows through there anymore.. I don't know for sure but think SMM is now K>obsolete also..

    Somehow, the category with the BullsEye Bulletins, and the Synchronet
    BBS List, got zapped out of SCFG. So, I had to do some searching to fidn
    the docs on the setups to rebuild them.

    too many grinder apps, etc out for a BBS matcmaker app to be of any relevence K>:)

    I have a "User Profiles" door, but it's far less on details than a
    Matchmaker door.

    Daryl

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  • From Roadhog@VERT/OUTWEST to KK4QBN on Mon Sep 18 23:10:33 2017
    Re: On The Twit List
    By: KK4QBN to Nightfox on Fri Sep 15 2017 06:24 pm

    I did notice it...and that's in the twit list as well. And, if I
    knew his IP, I'd block it as well.


    He'll more than likely need to ad the IP of outwest BBS also, because he is posting as Roadhog (90% guarantee) also.

    mmm no I am not Mro so -minus 100% Fail

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Tue Sep 19 11:23:00 2017
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    open the syncdata conference up and read how the messages are
    formatted and straight type one up I presume.. the sbbslist script
    is in CVS now, I believe it resides in the exec dir.

    CVS suggests it's a 3.17 thing, or am I wrong?

    I have that conference in my QWK packets, but wasn't sure what was going on there.

    yep, thats how SBL and the match makr data is passed.. don't know if anything else flows through there anymore.. I don't know for sure but think SMM is now obsolete also..

    Just the data, from what I can tell. I haven't had a close look at it.

    too many grinder apps, etc out for a BBS matcmaker app to be of any relevence :)

    LOL true dat. ;)


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to KK4QBN on Tue Sep 19 11:31:00 2017
    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    @TZ: 40f0
    Re: Re: Why I Run A BBS
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Mon Sep 18 2017 20:28:00

    power of it, watching the cloud formations, etc.. I always get an
    energized feeling out in storms.. probably all the positivly charged
    ions floating around.. makes the hairs on my arms stand up as if I
    was holding a static charged balloon over my arm.

    Hmm, trying to get zapped? ;)

    Well.. not really.. when the lightening gets close enough I do go
    inside.. after a while you lean how it all works and where it is and
    will be..

    Indeed. :)

    the only thing that scares me with storms is wind.. especially straight line.. theres not predecting those.

    More predictable here, at least in the short term, if one knows the type of systems that generates those kinds of winds - cold fronts, microbursts, etc. Cold fronts and microbursts are definitely the big wind makers around here. :) Tornados are rare, but not unknown, had an F2 within a mile of here in 2003.


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Nightfox on Tue Sep 19 11:54:00 2017
    Nightfox wrote to KK4QBN <=-

    That sounds pretty cool. I never had a big BBS setup, just one line,
    and my BBS was free (I got plenty of callers but never really felt like
    I could justify charging a subscription for it). I eventually did set
    up DESQView so I could try running a separate local node so I could log
    in locally while someone was on my BBS though, and it was cool to at
    least learn how a multi-node BBS setup worked in DOS, even though I
    only had one BBS phone line.

    We ran a single line, though the BBS did run under DV and later, OS/2, and a second "line" was added later for telnet access, but had issues with file transfer reliability over telnet/Vmodem. I think that issue was exacerbated because both ends used Linux boxes as routers, and I only had a 2400 bps modem on my end at the time. What would happen is the transfer would start at high speed, then slow down as the buffer filled, and eventually time out, because the buffer took too long to empty. Certainly don't see that these days.

    The internet did seem like a death blow to BBSes, which was the main reason I took my original BBS down in 2000. It wasn't getting many callers anymore, and at the time I figured probably nobody would want
    to call a BBS anymore now that the internet was widely available. I
    had heard of telnet BBSes, but for a while I didn't think anyone would want to use a telnet BBS when they have internet access. But later
    (2007) I found that telnet BBSes still existed and people do call them,
    so I decided to start running a BBS again. It might not be quite the
    same as it used to be, but my BBS still gets callers and I enjoy
    running it.

    Yeah we closed down in the late 90s, and it took me until 2015 to cer a BBS back online.


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Daryl Stout on Tue Sep 19 21:33:00 2017
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    Haha, I race up 20 foot ladders for fun. :D

    Braggert. <G>

    Hahaha. :D

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    I'd rather have ground beef, extra chese, and sweet onion. :)

    Legless cattle? :P


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Daryl Stout on Tue Sep 19 21:52:00 2017
    Daryl Stout wrote to KK4QBN <=-

    I'm reminded of a bizarre cartoon I saw on Facebook. This guy was in
    an "adult store" (sex videos, supplies, etc.) -- and he wanted "to purchase the large red dildo on the wall". He was sternly told "That is not for sale. That's our Fire extinguisher. You'll have to find
    something else"!! <BG>

    There's a similar joke where a guy stood in for the shop owner on a quiet day, while the owner ran errands. But he got a few sales - the first was someone who wanted the 6" model. The next wanted the 10" black model, and then the third wanted the tartan "Scots special". When the owner came back, he asked how things were, and the reply was "I got $10 for the standard model, $30 for the big black one, and $80 for your thermos!" :D


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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to TONY LANGDON on Wed Sep 20 11:15:00 2017
    Tony,

    I'm reminded of a bizarre cartoon I saw on Facebook. This guy was in an "adult store" (sex videos, supplies, etc.) -- and he wanted "to purchase the large red dildo on the wall". He was sternly told "That is not for sale. That's our Fire extinguisher. You'll have to find something else"!! <BG>

    There's a similar joke where a guy stood in for the shop owner on a quiet da TL>while the owner ran errands. But he got a few sales - the first was someone TL>who wanted the 6" model. The next wanted the 10" black model, and then the TL>third wanted the tartan "Scots special". When the owner came back, he asked TL>how things were, and the reply was "I got $10 for the standard model, $30 fo TL>the big black one, and $80 for your thermos!" :D

    And, there's a joke on that one. The blond is in the store, and she
    sees a Thermos. Having never seen one before, she asks what it does. The
    clerk told her "it keeps hot things hot, and cold things cold" (i.e.
    coffee OR iced tea). The blond is elated, and buys one.

    She shows up at her workplace the next day with a shiny new Thermos,
    and when her boss asks what it is, she says "It's a Thermos -- it keeps
    hot things hot, and cold things cold!!".

    Her boss asks what she has in it, and the blond replies "Vegetable
    Soup and Ice Cream"!! :P

    I don't think I'd have the heart to put a blond on a twit list...they
    provide too much comedy relief. ;)

    Daryl

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Tony Langdon on Wed Sep 20 23:31:16 2017
    Re: Re: On The Twit List
    By: Tony Langdon to KK4QBN on Tue Sep 19 2017 11:23 am

    KK4QBN wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    open the syncdata conference up and read how the messages are
    formatted and straight type one up I presume.. the sbbslist script
    is in CVS now, I believe it resides in the exec dir.

    CVS suggests it's a 3.17 thing, or am I wrong?

    I can't think of any reason of the top of my head why the new (still in-progress) sbbslist (exec/sbbslist.js) wouldn't run on v3.16. There might be something in the JS object model (in v3.17+) that it uses that I'm not thinking of. It might just work.

    digital man

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Digital Man on Thu Sep 21 13:56:40 2017
    On 2017 Sep 18 14:50:48, you wrote to Nightfox:

    What's even more confusing is that the process that creating the nightly sbbsimsg.lst file on Vertrauen verified instant-message capable systems by checking if they supported SMTP and UDP-Finger (rather than MSP/SYSTAT)
    for
    a long time. So a system had to support both the old protocols and the "new" protocols in order to be listed in sbbsimsg.lst. That should be
    fixed
    now, but some lingering Finger/SMTP support remains (e.g. in exec/sbbsimsg.js) and that still needs cleaning up.

    i remember that max did some things over here with some UDP stuff... eventually
    UDP was deleted in favor of the TCP protocol for its 3-way handshake... UDP stuff can have the origin IP spoofed so many of those services using UDP can be
    abused as amplifiers in amplification DDOS attacks...

    i don't recall anything specific about MSP/SYSTAT, though... i know we played with the finger stuff a little and IIRC it seemed to work fine on TCP... the trick would be getting all other systems to disable the UDP flavor and use only
    the TCP one... everything on max's system must be port forwarded through the firewall... generally on different ports because other services on the network are using those ports, too... even the web interface has to go through a reverse proxy on the front line apache server which reverse proxies for numerous other domains hosted here...

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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Daryl Stout on Fri Sep 22 06:36:00 2017
    Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    Her boss asks what she has in it, and the blond replies "Vegetable
    Soup and Ice Cream"!! :P

    LOL

    I don't think I'd have the heart to put a blond on a twit list...they provide too much comedy relief. ;)

    ;)


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  • From Tony Langdon@VERT to Digital Man on Fri Sep 22 06:39:00 2017
    Digital Man wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    I can't think of any reason of the top of my head why the new (still in-progress) sbbslist (exec/sbbslist.js) wouldn't run on v3.16. There might be something in the JS object model (in v3.17+) that it uses that I'm not thinking of. It might just work.

    Sounds like there's only one way to find out. ;) Might be something to play with when I have a free moment (whatever that is ;) ).


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