• Re: Door Execution From P

    From Immortal@VERT/LIGHT to MRO on Sat Dec 2 10:17:00 2017
    On 12/01/17, MRO said the following...

    What MRO said, LORD II with lots of IGMs. The version # reflected (approximately) how many IGMs were in the C.N.W. package. I am running you want to see it in action (unless I accidentally level restricted it which case let me know). I only get a brief delay when it launches, but it runs mostly fine.

    if there's a delay when it launches, maybe that's the one time daily
    maint that runs the maint for each module.

    That sounds like what it is. I believe it runs right after the first
    player of the day enters the realm. I have 14 IGM's I think and there is a noticeable delay, 300 IGM's must take awhile...

    Immortal

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  • From Immortal@VERT/LIGHT to DesotoFireflite on Sat Dec 2 10:21:00 2017
    On 12/02/17, DesotoFireflite said the following...

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    LOL

    Immortal

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KENDB3 on Sat Dec 2 15:09:00 2017
    Ken,

    I am running 137.1, which is done by installing 137.0 and then the 137.1 K>update on top of it. I found and then tried to install and run 137.2, but it K>was very unfinished and was all sorts of broken (at least for me it was).

    Make sure you install it to a brand new clean install of LORD2.

    I did all that, and it installed fine. But, when I tried to run it, it
    bogged down. Now, that was from the local console, but from a regular
    telnet client login. Someone noted that if I logon to the BBS from
    another computer (i.e. on the LAN), it might work better. I haven't
    tried that yet.

    Daryl

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  • From KenDB3@VERT/KD3NET to Daryl Stout on Sun Dec 3 03:16:36 2017
    Ken,

    I am running 137.1, which is done by installing 137.0 and then the 137.1 K>update on top of it. I found and then tried to install and run 137.2, but it K>was very unfinished and was all sorts of broken (at least for me it was).

    Make sure you install it to a brand new clean install of LORD2.

    I did all that, and it installed fine. But, when I tried to run it, it bogged down. Now, that was from the local console, but from a regular
    telnet client login. Someone noted that if I logon to the BBS from
    another computer (i.e. on the LAN), it might work better. I haven't
    tried that yet.

    Daryl

    If I log in locally on the machine, I always use DOSBox. It helps a lot with the latency. Running it as a door through the BBS is better for some strange reason.

    The Maintenance I run is pretty simple. I run it this way based on reading through bunches of the CNW documentation. Somewhere along the way I found notes from the CNW author that stated sometimes the maintenance needed to be run twice, and he suggest running it the second time the way you see below. So, I have 3 batch files, the first is to simply call the other two in the right order:

    ------------------------------------------
    LORD2CNW.BAT
    ------------------------------------------
    cd C:\sbbs\xtrn\LORD2CNW\

    CALL LOCALCNW.BAT

    CALL MAINTCNW.BAT


    ------------------------------------------
    LOCALCNW.BAT
    ------------------------------------------
    lord2


    ------------------------------------------
    MAINTCNW.BAT
    ------------------------------------------
    lord2.bat maint+maint.ref

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to KENDB3 on Sun Dec 3 11:29:00 2017
    Ken,

    The Maintenance I run is pretty simple. I run it this way based on reading K>through bunches of the CNW documentation. Somewhere along the way I found not K>from the CNW author that stated sometimes the maintenance needed to be run K>twice, and he suggest running it the second time the way you see below. So, I K>have 3 batch files, the first is to simply call the other two in the right K>order:

    Interesting. I'll have to try that.

    The first run just goes through the routine, then exits.

    The second run loads it for the "Sysop Player" (in local mode). After
    that, I thought it was OK for the BBS.

    But, when you try to play it, it bogs down, as if trying to drive
    through mud.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to IMMORTAL on Sun Dec 3 11:30:00 2017
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    LOL

    This is a test of the emergency flatulence system. <poot!> :P

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to DESOTOFIREFLITE on Mon Dec 4 14:17:00 2017
    C.G.,

    Does CNW equire nightly maint. I've seen a few refrences to it, but I don't s D>it in the documentation anywhere. There was so much talk about the program, I D>installed it, but don't know what to do about nightly maint on it. Does anyon D>know for sure?, and if so, what is the command line. Thanks

    Yes...you just need to run CNW in local mode. You create a "Sysop
    Player" when you start/reset the game...but you don't have to play it.

    What I did was have LORD2 in the nightly maintenance file, for it to
    run the maintenance first (LORD2 as the command line). Then I had it run
    LORD2 again to "load the Sysop player". After a few minutes, it'd "time
    out", and exit the batchfile (I had that as the last event in nightly maintenance).

    If you don't do that (especially the first run of LORD2), you'll get a message saying "You appear to be one of the players and not the Sysop".

    Strangely enough, the regular version of L.O.R.D. II (NOT Complete New
    World) does NOT require this to be done for its maintenance.

    Daryl

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Daryl Stout on Tue Dec 5 20:02:28 2017
    Re: Re: Door Execution From P
    By: Daryl Stout to DESOTOFIREFLITE on Mon Dec 04 2017 02:17 pm

    don't s D>it in the documentation anywhere. There was so much talk about the program, I D>installed it, but don't know what to do about nightly maint on it. Does anyon D>know for sure?, and if so, what is the command line. Thanks

    Yes...you just need to run CNW in local mode. You create a "Sysop
    Player" when you start/reset the game...but you don't have to play it.

    What I did was have LORD2 in the nightly maintenance file, for it to
    run the maintenance first (LORD2 as the command line). Then I had it run LORD2 again to "load the Sysop player". After a few minutes, it'd "time out", and exit the batchfile (I had that as the last event in nightly maintenance).

    If you don't do that (especially the first run of LORD2), you'll get a message saying "You appear to be one of the players and not the Sysop".

    Strangely enough, the regular version of L.O.R.D. II (NOT Complete New World) does NOT require this to be done for its maintenance.



    this isnt correct and is showing an issue with one of the igms or the game's data files. with a fresh copy of cnw it doesnt do this.

    for maint to run, the user just needs to enter the game.
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  • From KenDB3@VERT/KD3NET to MRO on Wed Dec 6 02:32:57 2017
    Re: Re: Door Execution From P
    By: Daryl Stout to DESOTOFIREFLITE on Mon Dec 04 2017 02:17 pm

    If you don't do that (especially the first run of LORD2), you'll get a message saying "You appear to be one of the players and not the Sysop".

    Strangely enough, the regular version of L.O.R.D. II (NOT Complete New World) does NOT require this to be done for its maintenance.



    this isnt correct and is showing an issue with one of the igms or the game's data files. with a fresh copy of cnw it doesnt do this.

    for maint to run, the user just needs to enter the game.

    I get that exact message, if you aren't then I'm surprised. What wouldn't surprise me is if it said that message and then moved quickly enough through it's internal maintenance to not really matter. As, my machine is a bit slow, it makes a difference for me, even when nothing is being buggy.

    I was running CNW for a while and I never ran any maintenance, so that's what I would get when I logged in for the first time of the day via the BBS. So, I started reading through docs to figure out what to do, and eventually realized just run the lord2.bat locally, would sorta do the trick, but I still had occasional issues.

    Eventually I had some weirdness going on with the whole install, so I redid it all from scratch, clean install of the game and CNW 137.0, then upgrade to 137.1, and it fixed a lot of the weirdness I was getting. But, I still would get that message, "You appear to be one of the players and not the Sysop."

    Again, running lord2.bat looked like it solved it, but I finally found the info I was looking for in the very dense \docs\ folder of the CNW install. Specifically:
    Whatever Path to ...\sbbs\xtrn\LORD2CNW\docs\CNW-BUGS.TXT

    In that file, Bug 1 & 2 explains why I run it twice, though its a bit wordy. I'll spare folks the copy/paste, as anyone with 137.0 installed will be able to see what I am talking about. However, this fix makes it smooth for anyone that may happen to play the game.

    I also named my "SYSOP" user to "Maintenance Tech" so it is kind of clear what he is there for.

    ~KenDB3

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to Daryl Stout on Wed Dec 6 08:38:52 2017
    Re: Re: Door Execution From P
    By: Daryl Stout to DESOTOFIREFLITE on Mon Dec 04 2017 02:17 pm


    Yes...you just need to run CNW in local mode. You create a "Sysop
    Player" when you start/reset the game...but you don't have to play it.

    Thanks, I finally figured that out after lots of reding. Works great now. But in the process, I broke my BRE.. LOL, it never ends.

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  • From Daryl Stout@VERT/TBOLT to DESOTOFIREFLITE on Wed Dec 6 18:07:00 2017
    C.G.,

    Yes...you just need to run CNW in local mode. You create a "Sysop Player" when you start/reset the game...but you don't have to play it.

    Thanks, I finally figured that out after lots of reding. Works great now. But D>in the process, I broke my BRE.. LOL, it never ends.

    I discovered a glitch between my BBS and Mojo's World with BRE, FE,
    and TAL (we're testing an InterBBS deal between us, and I think your
    system is in on it at the moment). Anyway, when I logged into the game yesterday, it said "You are the BBS Coordinator" -- I thought "WTH??!!".
    I emailed Mojo, and he agreed that something got screwed up on his end.
    I did get the batchfile setup right though, so stuff is moved, and I
    have that running once an hour.

    What is so frustrating though, is these glitches are caused by the
    smallest things, and it's like looking for a needle in a haystack. Then,
    when you find it, you feel so stupid for overlooking it (been there,
    done that, got the wardrobe, never mind the T-Shirt <G>).

    Daryl

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  • From DesotoFireflite@VERT/VALHALLA to Daryl Stout on Thu Dec 7 06:40:42 2017
    Re: Re: Door Execution From P
    By: Daryl Stout to DESOTOFIREFLITE on Wed Dec 06 2017 06:07 pm

    I discovered a glitch between my BBS and Mojo's World with BRE, FE,
    and TAL (we're testing an InterBBS deal between us, and I think your system is in on it at the moment). Anyway, when I logged into the game yesterday, it said "You are the BBS Coordinator" -- I thought "WTH??!!".
    I emailed Mojo, and he agreed that something got screwed up on his end.
    I did get the batchfile setup right though, so stuff is moved, and I
    have that running once an hour.

    Thanks, we will get it worked out.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to KenDB3 on Thu Dec 7 15:52:58 2017
    Re: Re: Door Execution From P
    By: KenDB3 to MRO on Wed Dec 06 2017 02:32 am

    it all from scratch, clean install of the game and CNW 137.0, then upgrade to 137.1, and it fixed a lot of the weirdness I was getting. But, I still would get that message, "You appear to be one of the players and not the Sysop."


    okay now i just did it and i got this msg with a pause. didnt do it before. also i ran the game locally as a sysop and maint didnt run.

    i suggest doing lord2.bat /maint as a maint command line.
    that runs maint and exits.

    you can also make a flag file and check for its existance and run or dont run maint and put this into the batchfile.
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  • From KenDB3@VERT/KD3NET to MRO on Mon Dec 11 18:57:06 2017
    Re: Re: Door Execution From P
    By: KenDB3 to MRO on Wed Dec 06 2017 02:32 am

    it all from scratch, clean install of the game and CNW 137.0, then upgrade to 137.1, and it fixed a lot of the weirdness I was getting. But, I still would get that message, "You appear to be one of the players and not the Sysop."


    okay now i just did it and i got this msg with a pause. didnt do it before. also i ran the game locally as a sysop and maint didnt run.

    i suggest doing lord2.bat /maint as a maint command line.
    that runs maint and exits.

    you can also make a flag file and check for its existance and run or dont run maint and put this into the batchfile.

    The double run of lord2.bat seems to do the trick and it is relatively quick. Thanks for looking into it. I think there were a few folks that were seeing the same thing I have been.

    ~KenDB3

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