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    From Ragnarok@docksud.com.ar to DOVE-Net.Synchronet_Discussion on Wed Apr 8 02:44:34 2020
    I want to play with extract data from echostats.ini

    I see that the ini section to the area do not identify what network are
    from. Like [Fidonet:Area] syntax as used in sbbsecho.ini

    Example: i have two echos "Doors" from Fidonet and GameNet
    how area saved the stats for these two areas if section name are [Doors]
    on both?

    thanks!
  • From Digital Man@VERT to Ragnarok on Wed Apr 8 00:17:41 2020
    Re: echostats.ini with multiple networks
    By: Ragnarok to DOVE-Net.Synchronet_Discussion on Wed Apr 08 2020 02:44 am

    I want to play with extract data from echostats.ini

    I see that the ini section to the area do not identify what network are from. Like [Fidonet:Area] syntax as used in sbbsecho.ini

    There are no AreaTags referenced in sbbsecho.ini

    Example: i have two echos "Doors" from Fidonet and GameNet
    how area saved the stats for these two areas if section name are [Doors]
    on both?

    Duplicate AreaTags would be a problem. I imagine that would cause problems for the Area File (areas.bbs) parsing in SBBSecho too. Are you sure the AreaTags (aka EchoTags) are actually duplicates? Can you paste the relevant lines from your area file?

    SBBSecho is not actually domain-aware, so there's currently no concept of "FidoNet" versus "Othernet" in SBBSecho - they're all just zones. And it's possible for a single area/echo to be linked to multiple zones. So you can't really say an area is a "FidoNet" area when it's also gated to "SomeOtherNet", just as an example.

    So... yeah. I'm clearly duplicate AreaTags would be a problem, but I think they'd be a problem in other areas of SBBSecho as well. So, I'm curious if you actually have that configuration happening there.

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  • From Ragnarok@docksud.com.ar to Digital Man on Wed Apr 8 05:37:02 2020
    El 8/4/20 a las 04:17, Digital Man escribió:
    Re: echostats.ini with multiple networks
    By: Ragnarok to DOVE-Net.Synchronet_Discussion on Wed Apr 08 2020 02:44 am

    I want to play with extract data from echostats.ini

    I see that the ini section to the area do not identify what network are from. Like [Fidonet:Area] syntax as used in sbbsecho.ini

    There are no AreaTags referenced in sbbsecho.ini

    I kown, i just use as syntax example for set network + area pair in a
    ini section file.

    Example: i have two echos "Doors" from Fidonet and GameNet
    how area saved the stats for these two areas if section name are [Doors] on both?

    Duplicate AreaTags would be a problem. I imagine that would cause problems for the Area File (areas.bbs) parsing in SBBSecho too. Are you sure the AreaTags (aka EchoTags) are actually duplicates? Can you paste the relevant lines from your area file?

    First, don't worr because i don't have the problem yet.

    But the real example will be:

    developernet, gamenet and fidonet have a "windows" area.

    luckily i carry developernet and gamenet via qwk instead of ftn, so it's
    not actually problem for now.
    But if somebody carry two o more network wich same area tag can be unpredictable.



    SBBSecho is not actually domain-aware, so there's currently no concept of "FidoNet" versus "Othernet" in SBBSecho - they're all just zones. And it's possible for a single area/echo to be linked to multiple zones. So you can't really say an area is a "FidoNet" area when it's also gated to "SomeOtherNet", just as an example.

    Ok. could it be related to dupes too?, for example, i receive
    sync_programming from fidonet via ftn (my fidonet messages group that area). Then, i notice that sbbsecho log detect duplicates messages with the
    dovenet area.

    ----------
    2020-04-08 03:15:55 Importing /sbbs/fido/inbound/E8D3059A.PKT (Type 2e,
    47.7KB) from 4:90/1 to 4:902/26
    2020-04-08 03:15:55 ERROR 1 (smb_addmsg duplicate X-FTN-MSGID:
    1:153/716.0 e8d28b80 found in message #36) line 3627 adding message to fidonetenglisht
    2020-04-08 03:15:55 ENGLISH_TUTOR Duplicate message from Ardith Hinton (1:153/716) to alexander koryagin, subject: Misinterpretation... 2.
    2020-04-08 03:15:55 ERROR 1 (smb_addmsg duplicate X-FTN-MSGID: 3:772/220 637165dc found in message #470) line 3627 adding message to fidonetbbs_ads 2020-04-08 03:15:55 BBS_ADS Duplicate message from Family BBS
    (3:772/220) to All, subject: Come Join Family BBS
    2020-04-08 03:15:55 ERROR 1 (smb_addmsg duplicate X-FTN-MSGID: 41039.syncprog@1:103/705 22f32d3c found in message #458) line 3627
    adding message to fidonetsyncprog
    2020-04-08 03:15:55 SYNC_PROGRAMMING Duplicate message from rswindell (1:103/705) to CVS commit, subject: exec/qnet-ftp.js
    2020-04-08 03:15:55 ERROR 1 (smb_addmsg duplicate X-FTN-MSGID: 41040.syncprog@1:103/705 22f32f69 found in message #459) line 3627
    adding message to fidonetsyncprog
    2020-04-08 03:15:55 SYNC_PROGRAMMING Duplicate message from echicken (1:103/705) to rswindell, subject: exec/qnet-ftp.js

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    So... yeah. I'm clearly duplicate AreaTags would be a problem, but I think they'd be a problem in other areas of SBBSecho as well. So, I'm curious if you actually have that configuration happening there.

    thanks! when I have more free time, i will try to reproduce with real configurations.
  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Ragnarok on Wed Apr 8 09:27:54 2020
    Re: echostats.ini with multiple networks
    By: Ragnarok to DOVE-Net.Synchronet_Discussion on Wed Apr 08 2020 02:44:34


    Ragnarok> Example: i have two echos "Doors" from Fidonet and GameNet
    Ragnarok> how area saved the stats for these two areas if section
    Ragnarok> name are [Doors] on both?

    check the orig addresses in each record? the packets should be created by a zone address in the network they claim to be from...

    eg: LastReceived.pkt_orig

    but yeah, i don't know if sbbsecho makes a distinction between two or more identically named echos in its stats and if it does, how it differentiates between them in the stats...


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