do you guys know that there is synchronet source code in rick parishes
gamesrv?
I found the gamesrv gpl source code and see synchronet source in it.
it even says his name in the header file.
I know synchronet is open source but he could have left robs name in the source.

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Re: Source code
By: Corey to All on Fri Jan 18 2013 03:46 pm

do you guys know that there is synchronet source code in rick parishes gamesrv?
I found the gamesrv gpl source code and see synchronet source in it.
it even says his name in the header file.
I know synchronet is open source but he could have left robs name in the source.

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Fascinating...good catch there, Corey.


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Re: Source code
By: The Millionaire to Corey on Fri Jan 18 2013 06:24 pm

never seen the source code before.

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Re: Source code
By: Corey to All on Fri Jan 18 2013 03:46 pm

do you guys know that there is synchronet source code in rick parishes gamesrv?
I found the gamesrv gpl source code and see synchronet source in it.
it even says his name in the header file.
I know synchronet is open source but he could have left robs name in the source.

isnt it just the fossil that he uses
cause isnt it written in delphi/pascal ?

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Re: Source code
By: Mro to Corey on Sat Jan 19 2013 01:53 am

do you guys know that there is synchronet source code in rick parishes gamesrv?
I found the gamesrv gpl source code and see synchronet source in it.
it even says his name in the header file.
I know synchronet is open source but he could have left robs name in the source.

isnt it just the fossil that he uses
cause isnt it written in delphi/pascal ?

If he's using Synchronet's fossil, it wouldn't be a problem, except that the credit isn't being given. I'm pretty sure that's a license violation, unless he has Rob's permission.

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Re: Source code
By: Dreamer to Mro on Sat Jan 19 2013 06:37 am

I didnt notice where the modual is used.
but it's most of xtrn.cpp and all the other door routines.
and the fossil stuff. and the sbbsexec.dll too.
I think his door server is based on synchronet.
sort of the doors without the bbs stuff.

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Re: Source code
By: Corey to Dreamer on Sat Jan 19 2013 08:22 am

Re: Source code
By: Dreamer to Mro on Sat Jan 19 2013 06:37 am

I didnt notice where the modual is used.
but it's most of xtrn.cpp and all the other door routines.
and the fossil stuff. and the sbbsexec.dll too.
I think his door server is based on synchronet.
sort of the doors without the bbs stuff.

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i think it's more that it's the fossil that is synchronet.

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Re: Source code
By: Mro to Corey on Sat Jan 19 2013 11:19 am

well, I have the source code for the gamesrv.
and I see besides the fossil routines, most of the doors engine is synchronet. the modual is gsdoors.exe is something.
I mean, it's fine since synchronet is open source,
I just thought it was wierd that he deleted robs name in the code and put his own. it's like, if I redid the majorbbs to be a game server,
I would leave in the authours name in the source code and put modded by me. course look at how maybe systems were based on wwiv code and how many even mentioned waynes work.

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Re: Source code
By: Corey to Mro on Sat Jan 19 2013 09:56 am

Re: Source code
By: Mro to Corey on Sat Jan 19 2013 11:19 am

well, I have the source code for the gamesrv.
and I see besides the fossil routines, most of the doors engine is synchronet. the modual is gsdoors.exe is something.
I mean, it's fine since synchronet is open source,
I just thought it was wierd that he deleted robs name in the code and put his own. it's like, if I redid the majorbbs to be a game server,
I would leave in the authours name in the source code and put modded by me. course look at how maybe systems were based on wwiv code and how many even mentioned waynes work.

okay are you talking the sourcecode on sourceforge?

i see delphi sourcecode, which synchronet is not written in.
are you saying that he ported it to delphi?
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Re: Source code
By: Corey to Dreamer on Sat Jan 19 2013 08:22 am

I didnt notice where the modual is used.
but it's most of xtrn.cpp and all the other door routines.
and the fossil stuff. and the sbbsexec.dll too.
I think his door server is based on synchronet.
sort of the doors without the bbs stuff.

okay i am looking at msyncfos's source and it has a line identifying that it was modified by rick and then has the synchronet copyright and other information.

http://i.imgur.com/CltPPcf.png

here are the other files referencing rob swindell http://i.imgur.com/g8bRoNn.png
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Re: Source code
By: Mro to Corey on Sat Jan 19 2013 02:05 pm

hmm, beats me mine is front 09'
whats the address to the source forge site?
maybe he did port it all the moduals over to pascal now.
I just looked thru this file I have and saw the xtrn.cpp with his name in it.

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Re: Source code
By: Corey to Mro on Sat Jan 19 2013 01:08 pm

Re: Source code
By: Mro to Corey on Sat Jan 19 2013 02:05 pm

hmm, beats me mine is front 09'
whats the address to the source forge site?
maybe he did port it all the moduals over to pascal now.
I just looked thru this file I have and saw the xtrn.cpp with his name in it.

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www.sourceforge.net


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Re: Source code
By: Corey to Mro on Sat Jan 19 2013 01:08 pm

Re: Source code
By: Mro to Corey on Sat Jan 19 2013 02:05 pm

hmm, beats me mine is front 09'
whats the address to the source forge site?
maybe he did port it all the moduals over to pascal now.
I just looked thru this file I have and saw the xtrn.cpp with his name in it.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/rm-gamesrv/
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Re: Source code
By: The Millionaire to Corey on Sat Jan 19 2013 01:43 pm

looked there. it says no files.

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Re: Source code
By: Corey to The Millionaire on Sat Jan 19 2013 03:03 pm

Re: Source code
By: The Millionaire to Corey on Sat Jan 19 2013 01:43 pm

looked there. it says no files.

it's at the link i provided. also , are you using a different editor?
you are just quoting the re: and By: lines
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Re: Source code
By: Corey to All on Fri Jan 18 2013 03:46 pm

do you guys know that there is synchronet source code in rick parishes gamesrv?
I found the gamesrv gpl source code and see synchronet source in it.
it even says his name in the header file.
I know synchronet is open source but he could have left robs name in the source.

I gave him permission to use the Synchronet NT FOSSIL driver for his Telnet server many years ago. It's probably just the client-side code for that. It's not a problem. I gave the same permission to the WWIV v5 development guys.

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Re: Source code
By: Digital Man to Corey on Sat Jan 19 2013 05:10 pm

I gave him permission to use the Synchronet NT FOSSIL driver for his Telnet server many years ago. It's probably just the client-side code for that. It's not a problem. I gave the same permission to the WWIV v5 development guys.

i think rick had problems in the past with someone who had taken the GS code and monkey'd with it, this could be related to the source code cory has.

people tried to take the gs code and say it was there bbs system and maybe later tried to combine it into some GS+synchronet mutt distro.

i looked at the sourcecode on sourceforge and everyone seems to be in order.

i know dribble was doing all kinds of dumb stuff with gameserver and iniquity sourcecode.
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Re: Source code
By: Mro to Corey on Sat Jan 19 2013 06:31 pm

slyedit from cvs

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Re: Source code
By: Digital Man to Corey on Sat Jan 19 2013 05:10 pm

thats great. now synchronet is the sun source of the new bbses.

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Re: Source code
By: Mro to Digital Man on Sat Jan 19 2013 07:47 pm

trying to merge old dialup bbses together to make them internetable.
people do this.
I heard the programmer of a majorbbs game modded the bbs code so it's just a wrapper for his game. Crossroads of the elements.
now it's just a game server for this game.

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Re: Source code
By: Corey to Digital Man on Sat Jan 19 2013 05:48 pm

Re: Source code
By: Digital Man to Corey on Sat Jan 19 2013 05:10 pm

thats great. now synchronet is the sun source of the new bbses.

the FOSSIL has been used.
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do you guys know that there is synchronet source code in rick parishes gamesrv?
I found the gamesrv gpl source code and see synchronet source in it.
it even says his name in the header file.
I know synchronet is open source but he could have left robs name in the source.

Hey Corey, I can only assume you're referring to the $Id CVS keyword in xtrn.cpp. If that's the case, the replacement of rswindell with rickparrish occured automatically when I first commited GameSrv to sf.net's CVS server.
And the purpose of the header isn't to say "rickparrish wrote the contents of this file", it's to say "rickparrish was the last person to commit this file.

So just to be clear, I didn't remove Rob's name from his source. In fact if you had looked a couple lines down, you'd see his name is on the copyright.

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If he's using Synchronet's fossil, it wouldn't be a problem, except that
the credit isn't being given. I'm pretty sure that's a license violation, unless he has Rob's permission.

Is this statement based on Corey's misinterpretation of the CVS keyword, or
did you actually do your own research and find a lack of credit being given?

It was never my intention to not credit Rob. GameSrv is pretty useless
without the Synchronet FOSSIL (well not quite true now that there's NetFoss, but that didn't exist in the beginning), and I've never tried to hide that fact.

So if I have in fact missed crediting Rob somewhere, please let me know where and it'll be fixed shortly.

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I think his door server is based on synchronet.
sort of the doors without the bbs stuff.

GameSrv definitely aims to be "doors without the bbs stuff", but it's not really accurate to say it's based on Synchronet. It definitely uses its
FOSSIL (and the related support files), but you can't blame Rob for any of the other code!

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well, I have the source code for the gamesrv.
and I see besides the fossil routines, most of the doors engine is synchronet. the modual is gsdoors.exe is something.

GSDoor.exe is my zero-configuration (or as close to as possible) door installer. Not related to Synchronet in any way, shape or form.

I mean, it's fine since synchronet is open source,
I just thought it was wierd that he deleted robs name in the code and put his own. it's like, if I redid the majorbbs to be a game server,

Meant to mention this in the first reply and forgot...in the future if you discover something weird like this, I would highly recommend trying to resolve in private first. I know I would have appreciated the chance to clear things up for you before you went and publicly slandered me (repeatedly).

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looked there. it says no files.

You can browse the SVN repository online at:

http://rm-gamesrv.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/rm-gamesrv/

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I gave him permission to use the Synchronet NT FOSSIL driver for his Telnet server many years ago. It's probably just the client-side code for that. It's not a problem. I gave the same permission to the WWIV v5 development guys.

It was probably Maarten that you gave permission to. He wrote SyncFos, the original stand-alone interface for your FOSSIL. He only implemented the NT portions though, so my very small contribution was adding the 95/98 stuff.

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Re: Re: Source code
By: Ree to Corey on Sat Jan 19 2013 10:52 pm

hmm, prolly.
my source is very old too. I think the first release too.
I tryed to install it on my win xp sp3
but gsdoor womt run. it ends with a memory error.
so I cant install any games.

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Re: Re: Source code
By: Ree to Dreamer on Sat Jan 19 2013 10:39 pm

If he's using Synchronet's fossil, it wouldn't be a problem, except that the credit isn't being given. I'm pretty sure that's a license
violation, unless he has Rob's permission.

Is this statement based on Corey's misinterpretation of the CVS keyword,
or did you actually do your own research and find a lack of credit being given?

Sorry, I should have been clearer. I didn't bother doing research, because I was pretty sure the copyright credit was with the source somewhere. I know gamesrv has been around a pretty long time.

"Except" should have read "Unless". :P

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Re: Re: Source code
By: Corey to Ree on Sun Jan 20 2013 07:39 am

Re: Re: Source code
By: Ree to Corey on Sat Jan 19 2013 10:52 pm

hmm, prolly.
my source is very old too. I think the first release too.
I tryed to install it on my win xp sp3

you went from quoting waaaay too much to quoting nothing but re: by:

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Re: Re: Source code
By: Mro to Corey on Sun Jan 20 2013 11:28 am

still using stock slyedit with ICE configs.
right from cvs, didnt change a thing.

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Re: Re: Source code
By: Corey to Mro on Sun Jan 20 2013 11:35 am

Re: Re: Source code
By: Mro to Corey on Sun Jan 20 2013 11:28 am

still using stock slyedit with ICE configs.
right from cvs, didnt change a thing.

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okay so you are just choosing not to quote anything?
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Re: Source code
By: Corey to All on Fri Jan 18 2013 03:46 pm

do you guys know that there is synchronet source code in rick parishes gamesrv?
I found the gamesrv gpl source code and see synchronet source in it.
it even says his name in the header file.
I know synchronet is open source but he could have left robs name in the source.

It was left in where appropriate last I looked.

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