I have msvc 2008 to 2013 on my system.
the last one installed a autoselector.
I was using 2008, then decided to try 2013
now when I click on the sbbs3 project the autoselector comes up.
and my only choices are 2010 or let it select.
and of course it always choosed 2010.
Why isn't the selector choosing 2013?
I guess the projects are still 2010 based?

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Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to All on Mon Sep 01 2014 09:36 am

I have msvc 2008 to 2013 on my system.
the last one installed a autoselector.
I was using 2008, then decided to try 2013
now when I click on the sbbs3 project the autoselector comes up.
and my only choices are 2010 or let it select.
and of course it always choosed 2010.
Why isn't the selector choosing 2013?
I guess the projects are still 2010 based?

Not if you're using the latest code from CVS. Try just running MSVC2013, then use the File->Open->Project/Solution menu option to open sbbs3.sln.

digital man

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Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to All on Mon Sep 01 2014 09:36 am

I have msvc 2008 to 2013 on my system.
the last one installed a autoselector.
I was using 2008, then decided to try 2013
now when I click on the sbbs3 project the autoselector comes up.
and my only choices are 2010 or let it select.
and of course it always choosed 2010.
Why isn't the selector choosing 2013?
I guess the projects are still 2010 based?

Not if you're using the latest code from CVS. Try just running MSVC2013, then use the File->Open->Project/Solution menu option to open sbbs3.sln.

digital man

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got it to compile in command line mode.
the top line in the vcxproj files still saw 2010
that's prolly why the selector is picking 2010.
did the cvs update too.
in win 8.1 it's not enoght to be the admin account.
you also have to run the program in admin mode too.


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Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Digital Man on Tue Sep 02 2014 08:41 am

Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to All on Mon Sep 01 2014 09:36 am

I have msvc 2008 to 2013 on my system.
the last one installed a autoselector.
I was using 2008, then decided to try 2013
now when I click on the sbbs3 project the autoselector comes up.
and my only choices are 2010 or let it select.
and of course it always choosed 2010.
Why isn't the selector choosing 2013?
I guess the projects are still 2010 based?

Not if you're using the latest code from CVS. Try just running MSVC2013, then use the File->Open->Project/Solution menu option to open sbbs3.sln.

got it to compile in command line mode.
the top line in the vcxproj files still saw 2010
that's prolly why the selector is picking 2010.

I'm not sure what files you're looking at. The current *.vcxproj files in cvs.synchro.net say (in teh second line):
<Project DefaultTargets="Build" ToolsVersion="12.0" xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/developer/msbuild/2003">

Which selects MSVC2013 as the build tool.

did the cvs update too.

Even the old versions of the .vcxproj files don't "saw" 2010. They included ToolsVersion="4.0" (which was the MSFT-internal version number for MSVS2010), so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

in win 8.1 it's not enoght to be the admin account.
you also have to run the program in admin mode too.

What program?

digital man

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Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Digital Man on Tue Sep 02 2014 08:41 am

Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to All on Mon Sep 01 2014 09:36 am

I have msvc 2008 to 2013 on my system.
the last one installed a autoselector.
I was using 2008, then decided to try 2013
now when I click on the sbbs3 project the autoselector comes up. and my only choices are 2010 or let it select.
and of course it always choosed 2010.
Why isn't the selector choosing 2013?
I guess the projects are still 2010 based?

Not if you're using the latest code from CVS. Try just running MSVC2013, then use the File->Open->Project/Solution menu option to open sbbs3.sln.

got it to compile in command line mode.
the top line in the vcxproj files still saw 2010
that's prolly why the selector is picking 2010.

I'm not sure what files you're looking at. The current *.vcxproj files in cvs.synchro.net say (in teh second line):
<Project DefaultTargets="Build" ToolsVersion="12.0" xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/developer/msbuild/2003">

Which selects MSVC2013 as the build tool.

did the cvs update too.

Even the old versions of the .vcxproj files don't "saw" 2010. They included ToolsVersion="4.0" (which was the MSFT-internal version number for MSVS2010), so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

in win 8.1 it's not enoght to be the admin account.
you also have to run the program in admin mode too.

What program?

digital man

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installing sbbsntsvcs.exe and running it.

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Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Digital Man on Tue Sep 02 2014 08:41 am

Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to All on Mon Sep 01 2014 09:36 am

I have msvc 2008 to 2013 on my system.
the last one installed a autoselector.
I was using 2008, then decided to try 2013
now when I click on the sbbs3 project the autoselector comes up. and my only choices are 2010 or let it select.
and of course it always choosed 2010.
Why isn't the selector choosing 2013?
I guess the projects are still 2010 based?

Not if you're using the latest code from CVS. Try just running MSVC2013, then use the File->Open->Project/Solution menu option to open sbbs3.sln.

got it to compile in command line mode.
the top line in the vcxproj files still saw 2010
that's prolly why the selector is picking 2010.

I'm not sure what files you're looking at. The current *.vcxproj files in cvs.synchro.net say (in teh second line):
<Project DefaultTargets="Build" ToolsVersion="12.0" xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/developer/msbuild/2003">

Which selects MSVC2013 as the build tool.

did the cvs update too.

Even the old versions of the .vcxproj files don't "saw" 2010. They included ToolsVersion="4.0" (which was the MSFT-internal version number for MSVS2010), so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

in win 8.1 it's not enoght to be the admin account.
you also have to run the program in admin mode too.

What program?

digital man

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ah, that was sbbs3.sln. sorry

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Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Digital Man on Tue Sep 02 2014 04:46 pm

got it to compile in command line mode.
the top line in the vcxproj files still saw 2010
that's prolly why the selector is picking 2010.

I'm not sure what files you're looking at. The current *.vcxproj files
in cvs.synchro.net say (in teh second line):
<Project DefaultTargets="Build" ToolsVersion="12.0" xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/developer/msbuild/2003">

Which selects MSVC2013 as the build tool.

did the cvs update too.

Even the old versions of the .vcxproj files don't "saw" 2010. They included ToolsVersion="4.0" (which was the MSFT-internal version number for MSVS2010), so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

ah, that was sbbs3.sln. sorry

On systems where I have MSVC2010 and MSVC2013 both installed, when I open sbbs3.sln from Windows explorer, it automatically uses MSVC2013. I'm not sure why (maybe I don't have the version selector enabled/installed).

The sbbs3.sln file didn't change when migrating from 2010 to 2013 and the file still contains:
Microsoft Visual Studio Solution File, Format Version 11.00
# Visual C++ Express 2010

This appears to have been a reported problem to Microsoft, but then closed as "could not reproduce": https://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/details/793984/sln-file-not
-upgraded-to-vs2013-by-version-selector

I'll go ahead and hand edit the sbbs3.sln file and commit it to CVS.

digital man

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Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Digital Man on Tue Sep 02 2014 04:46 pm

got it to compile in command line mode.
the top line in the vcxproj files still saw 2010
that's prolly why the selector is picking 2010.

I'm not sure what files you're looking at. The current *.vcxproj
files in cvs.synchro.net say (in teh second line):
<Project DefaultTargets="Build" ToolsVersion="12.0" xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/developer/msbuild/2003">

Which selects MSVC2013 as the build tool.

did the cvs update too.

Even the old versions of the .vcxproj files don't "saw" 2010. They included ToolsVersion="4.0" (which was the MSFT-internal version number for MSVS2010), so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

ah, that was sbbs3.sln. sorry

On systems where I have MSVC2010 and MSVC2013 both installed, when I open sbbs3.sln from Windows explorer, it automatically uses MSVC2013. I'm not sure why (maybe I don't have the version selector enabled/installed).

The sbbs3.sln file didn't change when migrating from 2010 to 2013 and the file still contains:
Microsoft Visual Studio Solution File, Format Version 11.00
# Visual C++ Express 2010

This appears to have been a reported problem to Microsoft, but then closed as "could not reproduce":

https://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/details/793984/sln-file- not -upgraded-to-vs2013-by-version-selector

I'll go ahead and hand edit the sbbs3.sln file and commit it to CVS.

digital man

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works for me.
now if I can only stop my Norton anti virus from deleting sbbsntsvcs.exe evey time I recompile it.
I make a execmpt rule for it, but it does it over soon as I recompile.

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Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Digital Man on Tue Sep 02 2014 06:51 pm

now if I can only stop my Norton anti virus from deleting sbbsntsvcs.exe evey time I recompile it.
I make a execmpt rule for it, but it does it over soon as I recompile.

oookay.. dont use that anymore.
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Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Digital Man on Tue Sep 02 2014 06:51 pm

now if I can only stop my Norton anti virus from deleting sbbsntsvcs.exe evey time I recompile it.
I make a execmpt rule for it, but it does it over soon as I recompile.

oookay.. dont use that anymore.
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would be interesting to see if it was just with the 2013 compiler.
people already say 2013 is sort of buggie
but to use 2010 I have to get the v120_xp addon.

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Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Mro on Wed Sep 03 2014 07:43 am

Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Digital Man on Tue Sep 02 2014 06:51 pm

now if I can only stop my Norton anti virus from deleting sbbsntsvcs.exe evey time I recompile it.
I make a execmpt rule for it, but it does it over soon as I
recompile.

oookay.. dont use that anymore.
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would be interesting to see if it was just with the 2013 compiler.
people already say 2013 is sort of buggie
but to use 2010 I have to get the v120_xp addon.

i mean norton antivirus. i cant believe you are using that.
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Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Mro on Wed Sep 03 2014 07:43 am

Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Digital Man on Tue Sep 02 2014 06:51 pm

now if I can only stop my Norton anti virus from deleting sbbsntsvcs.exe evey time I recompile it.
I make a execmpt rule for it, but it does it over soon as I recompile.

oookay.. dont use that anymore.
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would be interesting to see if it was just with the 2013 compiler.
people already say 2013 is sort of buggie
but to use 2010 I have to get the v120_xp addon.

i mean norton antivirus. i cant believe you are using that.
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ah. it came free with my new computer.
I used to use pc-cillin for a decade,
but they want like almost 90 a year now for the service.

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Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Mro on Thu Sep 04 2014 06:37:11

ah. it came free with my new computer.
I used to use pc-cillin for a decade,
but they want like almost 90 a year now for the service.

Wait until you see how much Norton wants after the trial period.
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Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Joe Delahaye to Curly on Thu Sep 04 2014 01:26 pm

Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Mro on Thu Sep 04 2014 06:37:11

ah. it came free with my new computer.
I used to use pc-cillin for a decade,
but they want like almost 90 a year now for the service.

Wait until you see how much Norton wants after the trial period.

so what do we do?

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Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Joe Delahaye on Thu Sep 04 2014 12:09 pm

Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Joe Delahaye to Curly on Thu Sep 04 2014 01:26 pm

Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Mro on Thu Sep 04 2014 06:37:11

ah. it came free with my new computer.
I used to use pc-cillin for a decade,
but they want like almost 90 a year now for the service.

Wait until you see how much Norton wants after the trial period.

so what do we do?

Use Microsoft anti-malware solutions. They're free and work well.

digital man

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Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Digital Man to Curly on Thu Sep 04 2014 04:46 pm

Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Joe Delahaye on Thu Sep 04 2014 12:09 pm

Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Joe Delahaye to Curly on Thu Sep 04 2014 01:26 pm

Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Mro on Thu Sep 04 2014 06:37:11

ah. it came free with my new computer.
I used to use pc-cillin for a decade,
but they want like almost 90 a year now for the service.

Wait until you see how much Norton wants after the trial period.

so what do we do?

Use Microsoft anti-malware solutions. They're free and work well.

digital man

Synchronet "Real Fact" #37:
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msdefender?

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Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Mro on Thu Sep 04 2014 05:37 am

ah. it came free with my new computer.
I used to use pc-cillin for a decade,
but they want like almost 90 a year now for the service.

there was some symantec professional antivirus that was awesome, but they changed it. both nick andre and i sung its praises.

if i were you i'd just go with avast AV.
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Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Joe Delahaye on Thu Sep 04 2014 12:09:35

Wait until you see how much Norton wants after the trial period.

so what do we do?

If it is only virus scanner you want, there are plenty of free versions available. Even MS has one if you are running Windows.
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Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Digital Man on Thu Sep 04 2014 08:01 pm

Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Digital Man to Curly on Thu Sep 04 2014 04:46 pm

Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Joe Delahaye on Thu Sep 04 2014 12:09 pm

Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Joe Delahaye to Curly on Thu Sep 04 2014 01:26 pm

Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Mro on Thu Sep 04 2014 06:37:11

ah. it came free with my new computer.
I used to use pc-cillin for a decade,
but they want like almost 90 a year now for the service.

Wait until you see how much Norton wants after the trial period.

so what do we do?

Use Microsoft anti-malware solutions. They're free and work well.

msdefender?

Yeah, Windows Defender is what MSFT calls it for Windows 8. It was MS Security Essentials for Windows 7.

digital man

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Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Digital Man to Curly on Sat Sep 06 2014 12:41 am

Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Digital Man on Thu Sep 04 2014 08:01 pm

Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Digital Man to Curly on Thu Sep 04 2014 04:46 pm

Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Joe Delahaye on Thu Sep 04 2014 12:09 pm

Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Joe Delahaye to Curly on Thu Sep 04 2014 01:26 pm

Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Mro on Thu Sep 04 2014 06:37:11

ah. it came free with my new computer.
I used to use pc-cillin for a decade,
but they want like almost 90 a year now for the service.

Wait until you see how much Norton wants after the trial perio

so what do we do?

Use Microsoft anti-malware solutions. They're free and work well.

msdefender?

Yeah, Windows Defender is what MSFT calls it for Windows 8. It was MS Secu Essentials for Windows 7.

digital man

Synchronet "Real Fact" #55:
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ok, got it enabled and deleted my free norton

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Re: Re: MSVC Wierdness
By: Curly to Digital Man on Sat Sep 06 2014 07:42 am

ok, got it enabled and deleted my free norton

it's only free for a short time, then each period you have to re-subscribe.
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