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    From Deepthaw@VERT/DS94 to All on Sat Jul 1 13:45:57 2017
    I've written that utility I threatened to extract the titles from assorted tracker (MOD/S3M/XM/etc) files so I can use them as the description within my BBS.

    Running ADDFILES seems to work fine for those files in the files.bbs with an 8.3 filename, but long filenames aren't getting the description updated.

    Is there a way to get files.bbs (or another similar format) work with LFNs without resorting to storing the 8.3 filename in the files.bbs? This won't always be practical since I do a lot of work from a linux machine.

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  • From mark lewis@VERT to Deepthaw on Sat Jul 1 17:54:30 2017
    On 2017 Jul 01 13:45:56, you wrote to All:

    Running ADDFILES seems to work fine for those files in the files.bbs
    with an 8.3 filename, but long filenames aren't getting the
    description updated.

    does sbbs even work with LFNs yet?? AFAIK, it doesn't... on any OS...

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Deepthaw on Sat Jul 1 15:09:45 2017
    Re: files.bbs and long file names
    By: Deepthaw to All on Sat Jul 01 2017 01:45 pm

    I've written that utility I threatened to extract the titles from assorted tracker (MOD/S3M/XM/etc) files so I can use them as the description within my BBS.

    Running ADDFILES seems to work fine for those files in the files.bbs with an 8.3 filename, but long filenames aren't getting the description updated.

    Is there a way to get files.bbs (or another similar format) work with LFNs without resorting to storing the 8.3 filename in the files.bbs? This won't always be practical since I do a lot of work from a linux machine.

    The *nix builds of Synchronet (and it's tools, like addfiles) don't currently support long filenames. The file base format doesn't support them and is need an overhaul to do so.

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to mark lewis on Sat Jul 1 15:10:54 2017
    Re: files.bbs and long file names
    By: mark lewis to Deepthaw on Sat Jul 01 2017 05:54 pm


    On 2017 Jul 01 13:45:56, you wrote to All:

    Running ADDFILES seems to work fine for those files in the files.bbs with an 8.3 filename, but long filenames aren't getting the
    description updated.

    does sbbs even work with LFNs yet?? AFAIK, it doesn't... on any OS...

    On Windows, LFNs mostly work fine since Microsoft has APIs to map 8.3 compatible filenames to their LFN counterpart. The 8.3 format name is stored in the Synchronet filebases, but the actual file on disk can/may have a long filename.

    digital man

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  • From Deepthaw@VERT/DS94 to Digital Man on Sat Jul 1 22:08:49 2017
    Re: files.bbs and long file names
    By: Digital Man to Deepthaw on Sat Jul 01 2017 03:09 pm

    The *nix builds of Synchronet (and it's tools, like addfiles) don't currently support long filenames. The file base format doesn't support them and is need an overhaul to do so.

    I'm running SBBS itself on Win Server 2003, but I suspect that doesn't really matter if it stores them internally with short filenames.

    Looks like the best solution will be to just make sure I compile/run it with LFN support disabled on my W2003 server.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Deepthaw on Mon Jul 3 12:28:46 2017
    Re: files.bbs and long file names
    By: Deepthaw to Digital Man on Sat Jul 01 2017 10:08 pm

    Re: files.bbs and long file names
    By: Digital Man to Deepthaw on Sat Jul 01 2017 03:09 pm

    The *nix builds of Synchronet (and it's tools, like addfiles) don't currently support long filenames. The file base format doesn't support them and is need an overhaul to do so.

    I'm running SBBS itself on Win Server 2003, but I suspect that doesn't really matter if it stores them internally with short filenames.

    Looks like the best solution will be to just make sure I compile/run it with LFN support disabled on my W2003 server.

    If you describe the problem in more detail, maybe we can fix it.

    digital man

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  • From Deepthaw@VERT/DS94 to Digital Man on Mon Jul 3 18:49:14 2017
    Re: files.bbs and long file names
    By: Digital Man to Deepthaw on Mon Jul 03 2017 12:28 pm

    If you describe the problem in more detail, maybe we can fix it.

    I wrote a program which scans an assortment of module/tracker files and outputs the titles into what I could best deduce was a files.bbs file - a series of lines which consist of filename, a space, and then the description.

    When I run ADDFILES, it adds all of the descriptions okay for those files that don't have long file names.

    When I recompiled it and ran it to use 8.3 filenames (MYFILE~1.MOD style) exclusively, it worked fine and all the descriptions came in okay.

    It's no biggie, was just a minor annoyance.

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  • From Lith@VERT/ASIRTA to Deepthaw on Tue Jul 4 13:13:41 2017
    I've written that utility I threatened to extract the titles from assorted tracker (MOD/S3M/XM/etc) files so I can use them as
    the description within my BBS.

    Can you make your program available for download? Sounds like a nice utility.

    Lith,

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  • From Deepthaw@VERT/DS94 to Lith on Tue Jul 4 22:35:57 2017
    Re: files.bbs and long file names
    By: Lith to Deepthaw on Tue Jul 04 2017 01:13 pm

    Can you make your program available for download? Sounds like a nice utility.

    Sure thing. I just uploaded it to my bbs @ deepspace94.com. You can login and search for modtitle.zip there.

    or you can just use the ftp site as a guest, I'm not picky.

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Deepthaw on Tue Jul 4 23:04:05 2017
    Re: files.bbs and long file names
    By: Deepthaw to Digital Man on Mon Jul 03 2017 06:49 pm

    Re: files.bbs and long file names
    By: Digital Man to Deepthaw on Mon Jul 03 2017 12:28 pm

    If you describe the problem in more detail, maybe we can fix it.

    I wrote a program which scans an assortment of module/tracker files and outputs the titles into what I could best deduce was a files.bbs file - a series of lines which consist of filename, a space, and then the description.

    When I run ADDFILES, it adds all of the descriptions okay for those files that don't have long file names.

    When I recompiled it and ran it to use 8.3 filenames (MYFILE~1.MOD style) exclusively, it worked fine and all the descriptions came in okay.

    It's no biggie, was just a minor annoyance.

    Okay, I think I fixed the problem. ADDFILES would skip any filename in the file list that either didn't contain a dot ('.') or where the '.' was more than 8 characters from the beginning of the filename.

    digital man

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