• 0-35V 0-5A Lab PSU CS FL-305

    From G8MNY@4:902/6 to WW on Sun Jan 5 06:00:40 2025


    By G8MNY (Corrections Nov 19)
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    Here is a very unusual circuit principles, of this Italian 0-35V 0-5A PSU. It uses a transformer variac secondary to make an efficient linear regulated PSU, together with variable current limiting & dissipation power fold back.

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    || ___ ³ ³ 65V ÀDrop MonÙ ³ ³
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    The coarse Voltage Variac control has stops on it to give between 6V - 42V AC, & a 50K Var R to control the course regulated Volts. Unusually a separate 30V winding is used to make a floating +/-12V @ 40mA zener PSU on the +ve O/P rail, for 5 Op amps, 6 transistors & 3 LEDs of the complex control circuit.

    The 1st Op amp with input protection diodes & 1K Rs, monitors the output Volts, compares PSU -ve through VarR & Fine VarR to +ve from 5K preset & 5K6 using +6V zener reference. And with 2 transistors it shunts away the 3mA drive to the darlington, & lights up the green OK LED.

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    2K ³/ ³ LED LED ³ ³ \³
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    A 2nd Op amp monitors the output current & compares it to the current set pot & -6V ref zener. Overloads, limit the drive current & with 2 more transistors, by again shunting away the 3mA darlington drive, & lighting the red OVERLOAD LED, instead of the green OK LED.

    A 3rd Op amp monitors the voltage drop across the darlington pass transistor. And converts this into current to feed the emitters of a "dual transistor long tailed pair" mixer, with a sample of PSU O/P current into one of the bases.

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    Volts Monitor 10K 10K ³\ 0VÄ1KÄ´+\
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    The resultant balanced mix product, feeds the 4th Op amp, to give an accurate signal proportional to the power being dissipated. And that then feeds the 5th Op amp & also uses the -6V to set the Max Power Dissipated, & also light the OVERLOAD LED.

    CALIBRATION
    A high power DC load is needed, I used a large tapped WW resistor 2+2+4R 1kW. Set the start position of the Variac VarR, & then the 4 presets are used to determine, 1 Max overhead voltage, 2 Max Current range, 3 Current foldback sample Ipot, & 4 Max foldback power. When correctly set the head voltage is always just enough for a cool regulator at all output voltages & currents!

    DOUBLE CURRENT MODIFICATION
    As the PSU has a huge mains transformer & a roomy chassis, I decided to see if it could be made to do 10A! (350W Regulated DC O/P!)

    1/ Transfer the 2 heatsink reverse voltage protection tab diodes to the PCB,
    as they don't need heatsinking.

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    ³³ pcb ³³ C ³potÃÄBr´³ 2/ Re-use the 2 spare heatsink holes for 2 ³~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ÀÂÄÄÄÂÙ~T~ ³ more NPN insulated Darlington 15A
    ³ _ _ _ _ Rs ÚÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄ¿³ transistors, pointing away from each other, ³(_)(_)(_)(_) Ý ³ VARIAC ³³ to spread the heat.
    ³ Cs Ý ³TRANSFORMER³³ File rear case hole to give clearance, &
    ³ ÚÁÄÁ¿ ÚÁÄÁ¿Ý ³___________³³ wire them up in parallel to PCB, with a 3A ÀÂÁÄÄÄÁÂÄÂÁÄÄÄÁÂÂÂÄÄÄÂÄÁÄÂÄÄÄÄÙ fuse in each emitter, as current share Rs.
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    3/ Remount 16mF C & bridge, from PCB metal panel, on to the rear case either
    side of the VarR, making sure the pillar mounted PCB will fit back OK.
    4/ Remove the PCB metal panel, & add more main 65V smoothing (I used 4x 5mF) in
    the new space, to maintain low DC ripple @ 10A before regulation.
    5/ Shunt 5A meter with resistance wire to now read 10A FSD, & re-label 2x/10A. 6/ Shunt the large current sampling 0.1R with resistance wire to bring it down
    to < 0.06R, & mount it with the left over pillars behind Amp meter mounting
    screw.

    Then do the calibrations again with current limit set to @ 10A max, & the fold back current to 1.5A when set @ 35V. It is all just doo able, right on the limit of the PSU & still not running too hot.

    CONCLUSION
    This is now quite useful bench test PSU, able to test low current circuits
    with the new current limit from "10mA to 10A" @ voltages from "75mV to 35V". Used for testing prototypes, zapping & charging batteries, run modest power rigs (30W) etc.

    Be aware not to over voltage kit, as it is a Lab PSU not just a Rig one!

    If it is often to be used at this "higher power limit", a 60øC thermal trip glued on the transformer might be a good safety feature to add!


    See also tech buls "Lab PSU", "Simple 20A PS", "High AMP Crowbar Protected PSU"

    Why Don't U send an interesting bul?

    73 De John, G8MNY @ GB7CIP



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