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  • Re: MS-DOS & Win 3.11 in

    From Sebastian Raase@FREEWAY to Aurelius on Sat Jun 8 19:46:00 2019
    Hi,

    I need to find a TCP/IP stack and software to use it,
    so I can play around with the internet on there.

    there are multiple TCP/IP stacks to choose from.

    If you have Windows for Workgroups 3.11 and a (virtual) network card with
    NDIS drivers, you are probably best of with Microsoft's TCP/IP-32 (search for TCP32B.EXE). It contains transparent FTP support (so you can use the File Manager to access FTP servers, without any tools), but I have not tested this extensively.

    For virtual dial-up emulation, the Internet Explorer 3 provides both dialer
    and TCP/IP stack as well. I have used this within DOSBox (since it provides modem emulation, but you need slirp/pppd as well) and Netscape 4. Worked just fine, but requires PPP.

    Lastly, there is Trumpet Winsock. I have used this with a virtual dial-up connection over SLIP/CSLIP and network cards. It can use a packet driver as well, but I found it a bit fiddly to setup and not too user-friendly.

    I don't know of any other WinSock implementations.

    Best Regards,
    Sebastian

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  • From Jagossel@FREEWAY to Sebastian Raase on Sun Jun 9 02:44:00 2019
    Re: Re: MS-DOS & Win 3.11 in VirtualBox
    By: Sebastian Raase to Aurelius on Sat Jun 08 2019 07:46 pm

    For virtual dial-up emulation, the Internet Explorer 3 provides both dialer and TCP/IP stack as well. I have used this within DOSBox (since it provides modem emulation, but you need slirp/pppd as well) and Netscape 4. Worked just fine, but requires PPP.

    Man... Netscape 4: there's a wave a nostalgia waiting for me there, if I can get to it. I remember using Netscape back in the Internet days, but with Windows 95.

    I suspect many sites won't work in Netscape 4 now, but I have to wonder if archive.org would work, and just dig up some old sites.

    -jag
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  • From Sebastian Raase@FREEWAY to Jagossel on Sun Jun 9 16:37:00 2019
    Hi,

    Man... Netscape 4: there's a wave a nostalgia waiting for me there, if I can get to it. I remember using Netscape back in the Internet days, but with Windows 95.

    The last version to support Windows 3.1 seems to have been Netscape 4.08. Although there is Internet Explorer 5.0 (including Outlook Express), which is surprisingly capable still. Better have 16 MB of memory, though.

    I suspect many sites won't work in Netscape 4 now, but I have to wonder
    if archive.org would work, and just dig up some old sites.

    Netscape tends to constantly spew out very important JavaScript error
    messages which prevent actual browsing. Without JS and CSS, some pages
    actually work.

    Keep in mind that there is no PNG support in either browser, only JPG and GIF work. And large images may crash the browsers because of memory shortage.

    Regards,
    Sebastian

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