Re: My return to myspace
By: Denn to Hylian on Tue Oct 05 2021 10:48 pm

interesting... now I am going to have to check out parler. I've never heard of it before.

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Re: My return to myspace
By: Hylian to Denn on Thu Oct 07 2021 01:12 pm

Re: My return to myspace
By: Denn to Hylian on Tue Oct 05 2021 10:48 pm

interesting... now I am going to have to check out parler. I've never heard of it before.

I was about to ask if you have been livig under a rock the last year and a half. There was such a
fuss made when they banned Parler from the App stores of mainstream platforms, and Amazon also
killed their hosting.

They basically colluded to kill Parler. And for practical purposes they did.

It is scary to see what big corpos can do.

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Re: My return to myspace
By: Hylian to Denn on Thu Oct 07 2021 01:12 pm

interesting... now I am going to have to check out parler. I've never heard of it before.

It was like twitter, now it's dead not worth the effort.

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Hello Arelor!

** On Thursday 07.10.21 - 15:40, Arelor wrote to Hylian:

[...] There was such a fuss made when they banned Parler
from the App stores of mainstream platforms, and Amazon
also killed their hosting.

They basically colluded to kill Parler. And for practical
purposes they did.

It is scary to see what big corpos can do.

Can't any one producer simply provide a download link for the
app (.APK)? And the app doesn not necessarily have to be
exclusive to the App stores.

For example.. if interested in Parler, visit its own official
site, click on download link for app. Simple.


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Re: My return to myspace
By: Ogg to Arelor on Thu Oct 07 2021 11:08 pm

Hello Arelor!

** On Thursday 07.10.21 - 15:40, Arelor wrote to Hylian:

[...] There was such a fuss made when they banned Parler
from the App stores of mainstream platforms, and Amazon
also killed their hosting.

They basically colluded to kill Parler. And for practical
purposes they did.

It is scary to see what big corpos can do.

Can't any one producer simply provide a download link for the
app (.APK)? And the app doesn not necessarily have to be
exclusive to the App stores.

For example.. if interested in Parler, visit its own official
site, click on download link for app. Simple.

As we were talking on FSXNet, users are dumb beyond what people imagines. A whole lot
of people does not know how to download an APK from third party sites. Also, installing them in your phone makes Android complain and throw scary messages which
put regulars away.

Parler comitted the mistake of making their application Amazon dependent too, so when
Amazon kicked them out they had to rebuild outside. That was as much of a killer.

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Re: My return to myspace
By: Ogg to Arelor on Thu Oct 07 2021 11:08 pm

purposes they did.

It is scary to see what big corpos can do.

Can't any one producer simply provide a download link for the
app (.APK)? And the app doesn not necessarily have to be
exclusive to the App stores.

they did that. but their website was ddos'd and also they lost their hosting one or two times.
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Re: My return to myspace
By: Arelor to Ogg on Fri Oct 08 2021 05:15 am

sites. Also, installing them in your phone makes Android complain and throw scary messages which put regulars away.

Parler comitted the mistake of making their application Amazon dependent too, so when Amazon kicked them out they had to rebuild outside. That was as much of a killer.

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it wasnt really the app that was the problem. their website was unusable. it was slow and things werent working out.

it was being ddos'd , tons of people were signing up and i dont think the servers could handle it.
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Re: My return to myspace
By: Ogg to Arelor on Thu Oct 07 2021 11:08 pm

[...] There was such a fuss made when they banned Parler
from the App stores of mainstream platforms, and Amazon
also killed their hosting.

They basically colluded to kill Parler. And for practical
purposes they did.

It is scary to see what big corpos can do.

Can't any one producer simply provide a download link for the
app (.APK)? And the app doesn not necessarily have to be
exclusive to the App stores.

They actually have a website login and they have a phone app you can download, But now that Bongino is no longer involved with Parler it's basically a dead zone on parler.

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Re: My return to myspace
By: MRO to Arelor on Fri Oct 08 2021 09:28 am

sites. Also, installing them in your phone makes Android complain and
throw scary messages which put regulars away.

Parler comitted the mistake of making their application Amazon
dependent too, so when Amazon kicked them out they had to rebuild
outside. That was as much of a killer.

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it wasnt really the app that was the problem. their website was unusable. it was slow and things werent working out.

it was being ddos'd , tons of people were signing up and i dont think the servers could handle it.

Ever notice how Democrats hate free speech and militantly try to shut it down like they did parler?
If you don't agree with their point of view some become very agressive like on the subject of Covid.

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** On Friday 08.10.21 - 05:15, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

[...] not know how to download an APK from third party
sites. Also, installing them in your phone makes Android
complain and throw scary messages which put regulars away.

Parler comitted the mistake of making their application
Amazon dependent too, so when Amazon kicked them out they
had to rebuild outside. That was as much of a killer.

Ah.. so the Playstore .APK version needs to be considerably
different than the 3rd-party direct-download version? If so, I
did not realize that. And.. the only thing that ties an app to
Playstore is the fact that if it originates from there the
updates would originate from there automatically?

I installed the F-droid app on my BB10 (after the Playstore/
Google combo started having fits), and for the most part it
seems to cooperate. I can search and browse for apps, and it
automatically indicates which ones are compatible for my
device. But lately, the F-Droid app is having trouble updating
itself; the installs are failing. :(



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Re: My return to myspace
By: Denn to MRO on Fri Oct 08 2021 10:46 am

Ever notice how Democrats hate free speech and militantly try to shut it down like they did parler?
If you don't agree with their point of view some become very agressive like on the subject of Covid.

the media was calling it a white nationalist site, nazi site and other things. when i went on there i just saw a site with normal people and just a few democrats that were trying to destroy it from the inside.

if democrats could push a button and disappear everyone who doesnt think like them, they certainly would. democrats and liberals do not appreciate diversity
and freedom of thought.
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Re: Parler/mistake/Amazon dependent
By: Ogg to Arelor on Fri Oct 08 2021 06:29 pm

Parler comitted the mistake of making their application
Amazon dependent too, so when Amazon kicked them out they
had to rebuild outside. That was as much of a killer.

Ah.. so the Playstore .APK version needs to be considerably
different than the 3rd-party direct-download version? If so, I
did not realize that. And.. the only thing that ties an app to
Playstore is the fact that if it originates from there the

the parler apps i used werent on the amazon appstore. i got them from google play and later from their website.

regarding your playstore app questions, the telegram google app and the telegram app on their website is different. there are censorship measures added in the google play store and maybe other shit.
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Re: Parler/mistake/Amazon dependent
By: Ogg to Arelor on Fri Oct 08 2021 06:29 pm

Hello Arelor!

** On Friday 08.10.21 - 05:15, Arelor wrote to Ogg:

[...] not know how to download an APK from third party
sites. Also, installing them in your phone makes Android
complain and throw scary messages which put regulars away.

Parler comitted the mistake of making their application
Amazon dependent too, so when Amazon kicked them out they
had to rebuild outside. That was as much of a killer.

Ah.. so the Playstore .APK version needs to be considerably
different than the 3rd-party direct-download version? If so, I
did not realize that. And.. the only thing that ties an app to
Playstore is the fact that if it originates from there the
updates would originate from there automatically?

I installed the F-droid app on my BB10 (after the Playstore/
Google combo started having fits), and for the most part it
seems to cooperate. I can search and browse for apps, and it
automatically indicates which ones are compatible for my
device. But lately, the F-Droid app is having trouble updating
itself; the installs are failing. :(

It is not that third party APKs need to be substantially different than the store ones as much as the fact the user has to deliberately enable third party install for Android. A lot of people shies away from doing that because Android throws a lot of scary warnings. "Installing third party programs may toast your phone and get you infected with malware and kill your cat" stuff. A whole lot of people gets scared by those things.

Then yes, you lose automatic updates unless you us a third party repository that supports the APKG (such as F-Droid).

F-Droid is a bit erratic but for the most part it works well. I think most of their issues are related to having network usage spikes and their servers not being able to cope with the load at times.

The installation of the APKs itselves are done by Android and not F-Droid I think. F-Droid onl­y does the downloading and listing.


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